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This thread is sort of in response to some of the reactions on the Amy Winehouse thread and is also inspired by recent conversations I have been having with my wonderful friends in my personal life. I would like to bring to everyone's attention that when issues such drug-addiction/sex working/ racism etc. etc. are brought up, these things are a matter of life and death for some people. Thus, it's really important to not only be gentle with our words, but also with our thoughts when commenting on them. I personally believe that most people are not maliciously trying to stir up shit when they say things like "she was JUST a junkie", but rather this kind of thinking can be coming from several places: ignorance, a societally perpetuated idea, or past experiences where loved ones who've gone through things like drug-addiction have ended up hurting those they love in the long-run. Nevertheless, it is still important to always assume that people in your audience are going to be deeply affected by these things (either through their own experiences with them or through experiences of loved ones) and thus saying things that demonstrate your anti-drug user/anti-mental health mentality (or whatever the issue may be) will end up deeply wounding many of the people who come across it. I am not of the belief that everyone should be absolutely free to express all opinions (but we'll save that for a later conversation), but if you choose to do so, be mindful of the fact that some people's hearts are at stake. A good example for me is when I hear about a woman who's credibility is challenged for sex working in court cases where she is accusing her husband of abuse. In my eyes, this could very well be me. And so news like this can be quite hard to handle because of the immense injustice I perceive to be happening. Additionally, when people are backing up what is going on, its even more painful to have to defend something you perceive (and feel in your heart and gut) is so blatantly wrong. Maybe I'm just having an emotional night but I thought I'd share anyway. With love and in struggle, Sky

I think this topic is now beating the proverbial dead horse with a stick. CharAznable, I respect your moral righteousness, I am very much of the same mind when it comes to people I date, I don't date people who are attached and/or married. Made that mistake once and never again...but that's dating, not hobbying. If you're going to continue in this hobby you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that a good many of the ladies you will be seeing probably have a bf/gf or spouse. These are all intelligent, charming, beautiful women. I can't picture any of them staying single for very long unless they make a conscious decision to do so. Posted via Mobile Device

First, I do respect your opinion that cheating on your lover is wrong. But, first off, if that is the case, that is between the SP and her SO, just as it is between a hobbiest and his SO Two, how do you even know her relationship status, SP's don't put that information on their websites or profiles. It isn't our business, it's their private life Three, the SP may also be in an open relationship...she may have multiple partners and her SO may have multiple partners, and the SO may know his wife/gf is an escort. But even if he doesn't, that's not your concern Fourth, you are not her partner/bf/SO, you are a client Fifth, if you want to take the cheating on your lover to a absurdity, if you equate being an married SP seeing a client is her cheating on her SO, then the reverse has to be true too, a married client is cheating on his SO by seeing a SP, well are the SP and Client cheating on one another when she sees other clients, and he sees other SP's.....give me a sec, getting a headache now, need a tylenol LOL...absurd arguments do that to me LOL I would only worry about your own relationships, and enjoy the time you spend with a lady. Don't complicate it with what really are non-issues Just my opinion RG

10 great reasons why you can't take your wife to the Caribbean: 10. Lesbian vampire cult. The island breeds 'em. 9. Zombies... no... Nazi Zombies.... no... Mormon Nazi Zombies. They sing Eidelweiss like the Osmonds and then they eat your brains. You got the last set of earplugs, and the last zombie proof helmet... in the world. 8. It's the Caribbean yeast harvest that week. Can't be too careful. 7. It's Rebecca Black week at the resort. Since she only has two songs, half the trip she will be subjected to "Friday." You love her too much to let her endure that; you will face it alone. 6. You are sharing a room with Bob, the mouth breather. 5. The government has asked you to go alone. That's all you can say. 4. The resort you are booked at only serves all the food that she hates. 3. It's shark week and she will be on her period. 2. That thing she is most afraid of??? The island is crawling with em. and the number one reason you can't take the SO.... 1. You learned that you were adopted. It turns out that your father is none other than Fidel Castro himself. His dying wish is to see his son before he dies. You have been corresponding with his little brother Ramon, and Ramon tells you that your SO looks exactly like their mother. If your SO came with you, Fidel would die and it might be the impetus for a US led invasion - the world would take sides and in the end, it would be the start of World War 3. Catastrophe. Nuclear missiles flying like mosquitoes. People dying on the streets... and it all would be your SO's fault for insisting on tagging along. We can't have that can we???

I may be cynical when I say that very rarely is the beloved more than a shaping spirit for the lover's dream. And perhaps such a thing is enough. To be a muse may be enough. The pain is when the dreams change, as they do, as they must. Suddenly the enchanted city fades and you are left alone again in the windy desert. As for your beloved, she didn't understand you. The truth is, you never understood yourself." - from "Sexing the Cherry" By Jeanette Winterson I think we all fall prey to this, at various points in our life. We are all constantly changing, and it is important we always give the people in our lives the opportunity to fall in love with us over and over again (be they friends, family, or lovers). 'Loving' is a verb, after all. We also need to make sure that we do not grow so attached to people that we do not allow them the latitude necessary to change, and become whoever it is they want to be in that present moment. Just thought I would share my thoughts on such a beautiful passage... What kind of experiences have you all had, that reinforce, or conversely, that contradict, this passage?

imo, then, you haven't been seeing professional sps, just a few women who did this for money. Professional sps wouldn't tell you if they are married or single, and they wouldn't become your friends. It seems to me that you haven't really been looking for or seeking sps, you've been seeking single ladies to become friends with. There isn't anything wrong with that, but that isn't really the topic you are commenting on. Professional sps are at work when they see you, and just as it wouldn't matter to the outcome of the session if your accountant was married or single, so it does not matter to the outcome of your session if the sp is single or not. You are not coming there with an expectation of becoming her "friend", and if that is what motivates you to have paid encounters, then I don't really think you really do have an opinion on whether its right or wrong. You aren't basing it on facts, just assumptions.

Unless you want to get caught, don't do it. If you enjoy the risk, then go ahead. I cannot think of any plausible story that your SO would believe. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but all I can envision is a bunch of tears.

In my life blondes have had more fun.... every blonde I have dated or married has cost me a fortune to maintain and in the case of one, divorce.

I am so impressed that there are SPs in marriages or committed realtionships and with a partner who IS supportive. For that to be, it has to demonstrate the total respect that one partner has for the other, in terms of giving blessing to the other to persue the life that they wish to have. This ties to an earlier thread about SPs and their social life. It appears that this situation may be rare, and is putting into reality what all couples should strive for. Mutual respect. For those in this situation, congratulations. It must be really comfortable to NOT be leading a double life that it appears as if so many people do.

I've been to see Gina a couple of times at ALO's west-end location. There's been quite a bit of discussion of her talents here and here, but I thought it was about time she had a proper reco thread. Here it is :) So, now you've read those threads, what more do you want to know about Gina? She's a lovely person - she'd be great to spend time with just to talk to, even if you did nothing else. She's sexy as hell. She gives an excellent massage - she seems to take it as a personal mission to get *all* the knots out, which is awesome. She can tease with the best of them (and will do, if that's what you like). And when she's done teasing... yes, she can do that with the best of them too :icon_mrgreen: Definitely recommended. I'll be back for sure.

As I always have said I'm a visual creature, and I had just loved Emily's photo albums just recently posted. She is a MA with Paradise Spa, and today was her first day! I was quite pleased and happy to be her first client as well and her first of the day, as she said 'I popped her MA cherry' Emily is stunningly attractive, and really knew how to create sensuality,eroticism while we showered together,had some hot tub fun and of course the finale..the sensual massage. Emily did NOT need any assistance or training with another experienced lady of the spa, she was quite capable,and more then, capable of delivering one very fine hour time spent with a gorgeous lady. I will repeat no doubt about it, she is gorgeous,has a beautiful body (must of told her that several times) has an infectious smile and delivers a exploding finish to a great massage. Thanks Emily you certainly will be a sucess and Paradise Spa, Paradise has done a excellent job recruiting you. Oh here is some visual for you gents... And I just loved her perfect bum...she is amazing!!

I'm just curious as to why some of you might not be comfortable seeing married SP's or SP's in committed relationships, if the partner was aware and okay with the SP's chosen profession. I ask as someone who is in a committed (common-law) relationship with a man who is completely aware of my work and is also totally okay with it. Thoughts?

Ok, so here's the deal. I have the opportunity to have a Carribean getaway with a favorite SP of mine, but as usual, sneeking away without the knowledge of my SO is holding me back. Has anybody SUCCESSFULLY used a cover story in the past, that has been bullet proof for them? I would be interested in hearing from both Gents and Ladies. As this trip is not being planned until much later this year, I have time to lay the groundwork. Every bit of input is greatly appreciated. E.

This reminds me of the stories you hear about a guy that calls in sick to go to a baseball game and is shown on TV catching a pop fly. If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime :)

I think I just had an ear orgasm...must use it!

the best one I have seen was in Quebec City and she was dancing to " Nina Simone, Felix Da Housecat - Sinnerman - DJ Mix " It was awesome!!

not that I do have a lot of experience with computers...but from personal experience, I would say stay away from HP. They do make good produce, but the battery life isn'T more then 2 hrs at the lowest level. I did use my previous laptop (from HP) for school and it was ok, but not more then that. I was using a special program and it was really slow. I have use Dell in the past, and did purchase a computer from them 3 weeks ago and it is really good up to now...as far as laptop I would recommand 3G of RAM and 320G of hard drive. that now is easy to found and since school is starting you will find lower price.

I have a Deep Routed passion for Shoes. I have 65 pair and No One can tell me I have Too Many. If I could I would buy a pair for every day of the year. They all serve a specific purpose, whether it be comfort, warmth, sex appeal, power, or plain neccessity. I have an entire bedroom dedicated simply to shoes, with the closet installed with shelves so I could neatly arrange them and show them off(mostly to myself). Never have a seen a shoe I didn't like, and frankly 5 inch heels are no match for my well practiced feet. I can glide across air when I have the right pair of shoes on. They give me confidence, a swivel in my step, and that click-clack always draws the right attention. When I have my heels on, I can take over a room, demand attention, and conquer anything. I love my shoes. They cheer me up when I'm blue, perfect any outfit, and boy do I get turned on when I take off everything but my heels in the bedroom. Shoes.... I just can't live without them.....

I wonder whether the entire thing is "made up" for the benefit of the show. For instance, it's taken Shannon this long to become fed up??? What about when the Gene Simmons Sex Tape scandal broke a couple of years ago? That was real, since it was filmed without his knowledge, and an attempt was made to blackmail him. I was expecting major backlash from Shannon and family at that point, but no one said anything at the time. I think the latest "trouble in paradise" and the subsequent marriage proposal is a ratings ploy.

I think you bring up some great points, and I agree with most of what you've said, but I can't say I agree with the above. I'm pretty open with clients and I don't think that makes me any less professional.

Z is for zaya The urban dictionary defines this as a 10/10 girl, common in British slang (and appropriately enough, this post comes right after Carley's, a true zaya!)

This belongs in the jokes section, but I couldn't resist: A brunette, a redhead and a blonde walk down a beach when suddenly the brunette discovers a magic lamp. The brunette rubs the lamp and POOF! a magic genie appears. The genie tells the girls that he will grant them three wishes, so each girl will have a turn. The redhead goes first and tells the genie that she's always been really smart and she is sick of being teased, so she asks the genie to make her just semi-smart. Suddenly the redhead is turned into a brunette. Next, the brunette takes her turn. She tells the genie that she has always just been sort of smart and she wants to be really smart. Suddenly the brunette becomes a redhead. Finally, it's the blonde's turn. She thinks for a minute and then tells the genie that she's always been dumb and she's tired of being dumb. The blonde says that she wants to be really dumb. Suddenly, the blonde becomes a man!

Hello, what an excellent Post, I read and understood all of what you were pointing out Alexandra... But I felt this to be the most important Part to me. Many people have been ridiculed and unjustly convicted without anyone really knowing the whole story First?

Some things to ponder: Additional Comments: Just what I need:

Bianica I saw her a few times. I found her exelent. GFE is as real as the come. I booked an hr the first time and was so captivated that I stayed for two. She is different, real and refreshing. Gorgeous Irish red head, firey and unbelievably passionate.

You could get your self a copy of the Ethical Slut or Opening Up and use the time you have to create an open relationship, it would probably be way easyer. There's no such thing as a bomb proof cover up.

I was a brunette for 3 years when I grew out my hair to its natural color with nothing processed in it which was like soft baby hair all over again. I did some blonde highlights last month which looked good but not fully blonde. I didn't want to go from dark brown directly to a light blonde because this requires at least one step like highlights under your dark hair to start with and then advance lighter from there. I don't think I've ever had a hair disaster because I've been seeing the same guy for 11 years and he knows my hair and what looks good on me. On impulse and a cancellation from someone else at my hair salon, I went fully blonde last Tuesday. I don't believe blondes have more fun which imo is just a catchphrase that's been used for decades. In the end, guys will always have a preference(s) and I don't think hair color is a deal breaker with men. As someone else said, blondes are easier to spot but I find I do get checked out more and makes me look a few years younger.lol. I have also found from a business standpoint I did better as a blonde but the maitenance every 5-6 weeks is annoying but worth it. I feel sexier/girly with blonde hair and more seductive as a brunette.

I agree color is not important and yes the inner beauties are more important and independent of hair or skin color, but when it comes to outer preferences on our side, preferences always varies. Though blondes may be favored more by more people, however to give an honest response to the OP, when it comes to outer beauties, my type of more fun is with (Pale) brunettes. The more pale the skin and the darker the hair, the more fun she is to me. If I could find one at my age range preference, I would invite her over for a weekend fun, unconditionaly.

Pink is more fun!Well since apparently it's the new blonde... I have been blonde in the past and I personally hate it, as it really but really doesn't suit me well, darker color are best on me and since I almost have black hair naturally, I need to bleach my hair two time to be blonde...will never do it again! Nor will I ever go all bright pink or blue and purple...it did kill my hair: ( Now I am a dark red/brown, I will probably go more red soon as I feel like a real red head inside me:D

179 Clarence. http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/health/living/sexual/clinic_en.html Everyone play safe.

I would say that is one reason, yes. Another could be that some guys might not want to meet a lady in a residence, hotel, etc. while there is someone else in that room, home, etc. Much the same as why ladies do not want more that one person in a hotel room. Privacy, security, comfort all come to mind as possible reasons. Keep in mind that I (the guy) am there to see you (the lady), not your room mate. Just my thoughts...

Comparing how someone dies is like comparing apples to oranges but nonetheless she was a human being and deserves some respect regardless of if she took her own life through drugs or any other way. What if someone here from cerb took their own life god forbid or an SP was murdered? Would we say "Oh well she was just a whore or he was just another trick so it doesn't really matter." Maybe some people would feel that way but if you knew them personally or knew of them from this site you would feel some sort of impact. Imagine how her family feels. Lets remember that she was someone's daughter. Yes, it could be debated that she had the world at her fingertips and that she brought this on herself and in the end her addiction won. It doesn't matter if she was leading a rock star lifestyle. No one deserves to die whether it is through drugs, a natural disaster or at the hands of a mad man. IMO, the way someone dies or its significance bears no relevance in my mind because death to me is a tragic thing overall. It is sad when anyone dies and they should be given the respect and dignity that they deserve whether it Amy Winehouse or those 92 people in Norway.

This is ridiculous! While I deeply empathize with the lives lost in Norway and I in no way condone what happened, I don't think we should let our anger towards the mainstream media about covering the Amy story more than the Norway story justify our awful feelings about people with mental health issues and addictions. There is something to be said about your comments above: how she was at fault for her own demise. Yes, while there is some choice involved in terms of recovery and getting your life in order, not just anyone contemplates suicide. There has to be some serious shit going on for someone to actually go through with taking away their own lives especially when they've been suffering as harshly as Amy was from her addiction. There should be no hierarchy of who's life was more important and which sentiments will be stronger. Murder and suicide are both awful and neither are the fault of the victims. It seems like as a society we will just take every opportunity to blame and further stigmatize people with mental health issues and addictions. We really need to be critical of how we think about people we place in these categories and how are words resemble how we truly feel about the worth of their lives!

And boy am I glad to be counted among that 10%! :D. Never before has being part of a minority group been this much FUN!! ;) Posted via Mobile Device

Simple no strings attached fun. Complete and utter lack of drama (usually :p). The experience of getting naughty with a beautiful woman, who, in my personal life may never have met or would not have had the courage to ask out. Getting to live out certain fetishes or fantasies without judgment which I may never have gotten to do with a SO. Also the variety, by which I mean being able to try all different kinds of women, some kinds who I would not have been interested in in my personal life...venturing outside my sandbox so to speak.

I am not sure this is a fair question and in particular in a public forum. Asking others to 'rate" between 2 ladies based on what they like as compared to what you like is, well impossible. Every gent has their preferences and every encounter, even with the same lady, can be unique. And not to speak for the ladies - but I can't imagine them wanting to be compared with each other like this. You might find by asking your question this way, neither will want to meet with you. My advice would be do your own research, communicate your general interests with both ladies, reading their reviews/posts...and then based on what you want, make your choice. I suspect you'll be much better off than going based on some stranger guys opinion. Hope that helps. Cub Posted via Mobile Device

When you walk in the door for your encounter, the outside life of you and the companion do not exist. For the time you spend together it is just the two of you and nothing from real life matters. For anyone to think that because we are Paid Companions and we are not allowed to date or be married, is just plain out there in my opinion. Your married or involved so should I be bothered. Plain and simple we are both meeting for pleasurable stress relief and nothing outside the door should matter. As well, don't ask a question that you may not want to hear the answer too.

To be honest, I don't see that it's any of my business, provided it doesn't have any impact on me. I see no reason why any SP should have to tell me about her SO (or lack thereof), much less justify any decisions she's made to the likes of me. This is her life we're talking about, not mine. This sort of thing would, of course, be the one exception to what I wrote above. Fortunately it's never happened to me... touch wood...