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Hello everyone, I may ruffle a few feathers but after reading many threads over the past several months in the General Discussion area, I have a few things I need to address and have faith that most of the hobbiests here are Gentleman I would consider spending my time with. First off, I have learned many new acronyms or Urban Dictionary terminology from the threads on this board. Do I agree that a vagina is a pussy or kitty? I do not, but the word surfaces daily on this board in discussion. I may just not be cut out to read these threads as I am a woman with substance and will not let you know how big my other lips are, if it's shaved or unshaved, or respond publically to any of these threads. Is it just the ignorance of grasping for the proper ways to ask a question? I"m sure I will quickly figure out the answers and have so far continued the faith that the Gent's who start these threads are respectful. However, I'm having a hard time just seeing these threads up even though I don't read them. So when I wake up with my morning coffee, log into to read the General Discussion area and see thread titles of "Daty vs Digits." "Greek or no Greek", etc. It really makes me question things here and a few have almost made me spit of my coffee on a few occasions. Every sensual, sexual erotic encounter is a gift for both the provider and client and I will use "YMMV" for this one. Please don't disrespect us, get to know us a little and ask us personally. Please always remember as well that we are women. If ever I had anyone in my personal life speak to me in this way they wouldn't be with me. Yet, here we are spoken to this way, asked very personal questions, menu item questions randomly thrown out there, etc. I may be old school but do believe old fashioned chivalry goes a long way, even here as we explore our sexual needs. I will always value and cherish my clients that treat me as Erin, not as a menu item or topic of the ??? day.. Hoping this falls upon understanding ears and do enjoy being a part of this board. I just had to get it off my chest as this has bothered me for some time. Cheers! Erin

I know this is an adult board but there are better ways to say things...personally i rather the gentlemen just ask me in a pm or email.. Even then I want respect...as I'm sure every man does. In private we can have the dirty talk..:wink:

Yes perhaps you should just let it go, after all it is a adult play ground, and this is just part of the daily routine here as far as I'm concerned. If we were all to hear no 'sex'... speak no 'sex'... and see no 'sex'....with the abbreviations commonly used here, or the f word or the variations used to describe ladies parts, in general discussion or other any other threads...well it just would not be what the gentlemen are looking to learn about, and I don't think in reality it would be good for both parties. My point of view...lady advertises..guy pays and books time..comes back here and writes a rec..YMMV. Why do some kiss and tell? Well there is a long list in reality I'm sure, some gents like to pass on their information through threads or rec's, or like simply glow with fact what they have accomplished with a MA or a SP with some class or sometimes with details in a rec, very seldom is there any mention of DATY or Digits with a MA in recs (unless I missed those ;). By the way quite a few women do the same, it is not unheard of in thread where a women has bragged or said she likes to " give a great juicy blow job", or "big or small I can fucking stroke them all" If we are turn your way of thinking(if that what you are thinking Erin) with not using the mentioned abbreviations, or the not using recommendations, a man and a woman having multiple orgasmic times, or if a man prefers shaven or not shaven, or DATY and Digits... then I ask what is the entire sense of the board if we don't have something to talk about? Must we talk about cooking,weaving,cats,dogs,elephants...I don't know..everything under the rainbow but sex? And sex terms are addressed and used in different manners on each and every Escort board. OH and I believe in old fashioned chivalry(I like that when I'm one on one with a lady ;) ) and yes it goes a long way! On this board we all explore our sexual needs, and desires, but there is something about being honest and upfront about sexuality and how to chat about it regardless of type of words being used in a thread. Is it to simply come on the board read ad's book a lady and speak no 'sex' here on the board? I think in all honesty if you go back and read threads from 2007, you will see the language was quite more offensive then it is today. This board has taken a 360 turn in the past while, with rules in place, advertising requirements,banning of meat heads that do not belong. I also can say I would feel that 90% of the gents do and give ladies the highest respect then it might of been back in 2007, who knows but change has happened. Things are good here, if we are to add more rules or guys are asked refrain from using this expression or that expression in sexual terms, it just makes people wonder what am I doing here? Does this make sense to anyone??? Perhaps I'm babbling but it is the end of a day, and I see these threads pop up, and I just needed to say my piece. No harm, no foul, just saying it from the chest (pounds of heart side). Happy hobbying everyone, and yes Erin ladies do give us their treasure gifts, and the gents here do give respect back, as far as I'm concerned.

Grooming and hygeine are given to me and I always let the woman take the lead. I'm very gentle and haven't had an issue with either daty or digits and I've found women will let you know quickly if your being too gentle. Just like kissing, some women prefer softer kissing and some are more agressive. Paying attention to your partner and going slow will go along way toward each having a rewarding experience ;) Peace MG

Well you know what they say about making assumptions...;) If you want digits and your hands aren't clean and nails trimmed, you get to wear latex gloves. It is far too easy to get cut and then get an infection because some asshat doesn't know how to groom himself. And you would not believe the number of guys who try to do this. That, and a lot of guys like to jackhammer you with their fingers and yeah, it can be painful and more than unpleasant. Listen to what the lady tells you! As for DATY, there isn't much chance you'll cut me, and plus, I love good DATY. I can only orgasm via clitoral stimulation, so good DATY is a must in my books if you want to get me off.

Jafo recently started informative threads about "sensitive breasts" and "greek". Quite a few ladies gave their reasons why they liked certain activities but not others. Many readers of these threads found them interesting and revealing. Here is another question: Why do some ladies allow Daty but not Digits, and vice versa?

IMHO to each their own, as long as people are not intentionally disrespecting others (individually or in group form). Not everyone has the same delicate constitution, nor hardened sense of self - and that's Great, as everyone having the same looks and/or character would make a monotonously boring World. Variety is the spice of life. Ying to Yang. As OC Transpo puts it: Respect and courtesy are a two-way street. Unfortunately, in a collective, that often falls to the lowest common denominator. Just watch most any news show - it's not the intelligent demographic that's being targeted, rather the opposite. Ex: Fox News A rose by any other name is still as sweet and beautiful, or thorny and stinky - depending the eye of the beholder. Like TV, if I don't like the program on the boobtube, I have the free will in a deterministic universe to simply change the channel, as much as I can go online and blog aboot it. Got to love freedom and choice! Party-on CERB!! (...as I can only assume if there is something totally egregious, the Mods will take corrective action accordingly.)

I know I may have a few dissagreements on this one but this is a question that should be answered by open communication, trust that is established through time with someone that we connect with, respect and of course personal hygeine. I don't think it should be asked as a random public question as the answer is very personal and between two consenting adults. I know menu items are put on the plate for the Gents to explore, question and decide, but where is the sensualty and mystery of an experience that can be amazing if two people explore together and build upon by trust, respect and exploration? How clean your nails are have no meaning if the connection is not built. Then it's just a menu item, or I may just be a little old school on this topic.

I think the reason some of us advertise no digits is because of the few bad apples that upset the cart! For all the rough digging around you would think they were looking for gold! There is a time and a way to use your fingers in a good way and the only way to figure it out is to communicate with your partner!

Ahhhh.... Memories of screech.... I, for one, love digits.... I'm older and wise enough to understand the need for impeccable cleanliness, trimmed nails, and gentle moves... No jackhammering for me.... But I am good with my hands and love to feel myself in there.... "no digits' is a deal breaker for me for an encounter with an SP. That being said, I totally understand the restriction. Moreover, I wouldn't enjoy it at all if I knew the woman I was with was reluctant. Which is why I firmly believe that pre-appointment communication is so critical. And, while I know many of us on CERB get it, it is worth repeating. None of us guys are entitled to anything. Money or not. A session is a privilege and is always defined by the rules/limits of a provider. It's our choice whether or not to proceed once we get the 'rules', but it's always a privilege. Thanks ladies.

Thank you! Goodness... I posted in the wrong section.

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Short attention span and all, I will admit that I did not read the whole thread. My main concern is that no two encounters are, or could ever be, the same. The threads questionning specific desires/requests are moot. Each and every encounter is different because of the dynamic! I cannot say this unilaterally but...each and every encounter to me is different! Chemistry etc is 90% of the encounter so asking if I do this or that is irrelevant and asking what time with me will be like is impossible to answer if I have not met you!!!!!!!!

I took the bible reference to be that in a puritan sense, even prudish, not in 'The Bible' sense - but it goes to show how some people will take away from things what they will - once again demonstrating that Perception is Relatively Subjective. On the other hand, like those whom created CERB - others are free to start their own board if this one is not to their taste. Personally, I do not go to churches and ask people why they are so superstitious, nor more than I would come here and expect the Queens Grammar. Party-on Wayne!! Party-on Garth!!

I was having a conversation with one of the more generous persons I have ever met. Even when some have taken advantage of her she has forgotten about it no hard feelings. I suddenly brought up about this kid I recently met (she knows him too) who is having a hard time and apparently his parents do not care very much. So I asked if there was something we could do and she responded with a 'why would I care?' Ok not the words she used but the message sent. It made me sad that someone that caring would give such a cold answer and I remembered how she always said 'family comes first' but what about others who may need us more? I consider myself lucky to have found a balance and care for both, perhaps because my family does not really need financial help. But then financial is not the only kind of support one needs. Thoughts? I believe the key is giving others what they are in need for according to our possibilities of course either if is providing food, clothing, spare change hugs, comfort, etc. Thanks to those who read this and may post, I feel better already finding my own answers lol but look forward to other opinions :)

Oh believe me. I am not a bible preacher so will not bring religion into this dicussion. I'm not a school girl, can hold my own, have no problem expressing sexuality in a respectul manner and this is just a debate. With debate comes understanding. Please refrain from using the bible to describe how any of us feel. Additional Comments: Well, you do bring up good points Pete and do agree to disagree with you on this one respectfully. I really like this thought from Elizabeth: Originally Posted by Elizabeth Saunders While I am fully aware that my opinion will not stop threads that focus on a particular body part or menu item, it would be appreciated by many escorts if those of you who participate in these threads could keep something in mind: First and foremost, we are human beings.....not just sperm sockets. We are complex people and the interactions we undertake with you affect us in many ways. This is not a business like any other. While you have the right to expect professionalism, it is upsetting to us when we are broken down to simply what we do or how we look. Because let's face it, it isn't just a pair of breasts or a warm mouth that greets you at the door, it is a whole person.

How rood! You should not have to describe your lady parts to a potential client. IMHO. I like the mystery of not knowing too much before the rendezvous. It adds to the excitement and the anticipation. For me its all about the chemistry between us that is important. All I am really looking for is companionship, warm tender embraces, and maybe some kissing. If we get around to sex great, if not that is fine to. I let the lady decide when and if the time is right. I am not looking to see how many women I can be with. All I want is a special friend over an extended period of time.

I agree with you Erin. Anymore, when I am seeing a new lady, I don't like a preplanned script of activities. I like to let the encounter unfold naturally. And with repeat encounters, as I have pleasantly discovered, they aren't clones of the first encounter, they unfold and are different, and more personable (for lack of a better word) than the first encounter Part of the enjoyment of the encounter is the surprise, wondering how the evening will turn out A quick additional thought RG

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It is the roughness and deep thrusting that is the problem. I have told people to slow down and most pepole do respect this. However it takes only one person to cut and scratch taking my ability to work away for several days, not to mention the pain. Becasue of this I have become more strict , its now very light digits and if you are hurting me I will have no problem telling you to stop. On the other side of the coin I know some ladies that are fine with this, its just a matter of finding out what each lady likes and respect her preferances!!

As long as it is done with respect and with a positive attitude, I do not see a problem with it. After all, open communication prior to a rendez-vous is one of the important key factors that contributes to a successful sensual time! :)

I didn't understand the reasons for no digits... but Malika and Berlin provide very good reasons. I love to touch a woman and feel her wet and warm...never have been the jackhammering type. So when touching is off the menu I am a little disappointed but always completely respect the limits. Is there any way to approach the topic with an sp or would it be bad etiquette to try and chat about that? Posted via Mobile Device

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I think I tend to agree with you, and I'd also add that generally men are socialized not to be emotional and to deny that part of themselves. So they're not talking about emotional issues with their male friends. And they're probably not opening up entirely to partners either (should they have them). Why else do most of us end up playing therapist? I also completely disagree with Megan. I can give myself great, satisfying orgasms, but that is nothing compared to doing it with someone else.

It strikes me that everyone is talking about a purely physical exchange, which is a little sad. I mean, it might be the mellowness induced by the cognac and cigar I've enjoyed, but it seems to me that men are looking for more than just that. I've never been a woman, so I have to take a guess here, but my guess is that women tend to get emotional intimacy from woman friends more than guys do from guy friends. So maybe it's easier for women to be satisfied in that part of their lives through friendships. Men, on the other hand, have the same physical drive but without an emotional surrogate. Why else do most guys in the hobby want those emotional aspects of the GFE? I like to think that sex itself is about more than just the orgasm. It's a little depressing to think Megan is right and women are better served by an oscillating rod of rubber than by flesh and blood. Maybe she's right, as disappointing as that is. Spoken as a guy who is single and would gladly deal with the "messiness" of a relationship buy isn't particularly gifted at getting into one, I can attest that women have far less trouble finding men than men do finding women. Supply and demand I suppose. There isn't enough demand by women for men who will provide paid companionship, but there is a ton of male demand because we're missing that connection. Fascinating. I'm usually the cynical bastard and here I am talking about emotional needs!

In the end the difference could be the choice of those we know and those we don't. You know this boy, you know his name and his face, maybe even his dreams and his ambitions and his fears. He is a genuine human being to you. There are tens of millions of people around the world who also need help, whether they be stricken by drought or disease or poverty or war. But as callous as it sounds, they are simply a number to most of us because we could never comprehend 100 million names and faces. We can give money to the United Way and the Red Cross every month, but we never see the faces of those that recieve the help that money provides. But when we help an individual, when we see the smile that lights there face of the laugh that interupts the sadness or hear a sincere thank-you, it means more to us. In the end, the choice is do we help those whose pain we can see as well as those whose suffering we can't.

Due to a recent date paying in counterfeit money i will no longer be accepting old money... meaning if you are paying me in 100 dollar bills they must be new. This weekend i received 5 old bills from 1988...these bills are harder to detect then the new ones for some reason. I went to pay for something and the lady checked the bills and 3 were refused...she trusted me thank God and told me to take them to the bank across the street..TD was the only one open on Saturday. They couldn't say one way or the other if they were counterfeit..{i know weird for a bank}. They are now in the mail to the Bank of Canada. I have the guys info for them as well if in fact they are fake. Just putting it out there that I am not afraid to tell the police about where i received them and how. I guess dude thought i was just some dumb chick he could pawn them off on...I gave him a chance to replace the monies but he only got nasty with me texting that he didn't give a fuck...that they are real and got them out of an ATM machine...ya whatever..lol...no way did he..especially old 100 dollar bills....anyway this is a warning for the ladies and the gents that these are out there and being passed around. Be careful and get yourself fimilar with how to detect counterfeit money. I'm getting the pen and whatever else i need. kisses, Emma

No worries, with all the rules on this board it's hard to keep track sometimes. I've been on here close to 6 years now and still make mistakes, just got an infraction last week actually. I simply view it as a lesson learned and move on.

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Ditto (All of above :-) . They said it best).

These things happen. At least now you know!

I always giggled when it was referred to as Porking in the old Bio Dome movie :P

If a client does not pay us for services rendered, as per our agreement, we are well within our right to ask them to make it up to us. If this individual chooses to deceive/rob someone else, those are his actions and he needs to take responsibility for that. Emma is not responsible for his behaviour and his actions. I think she absolutely did the right thing by demanding he make it up to her, and reporting him.

Kudo's for your post. We all had to learn and some of us the hard way. I broke the odd rule until I understood them all. Your honesty and concern and the fact that you want to work within the box is what counts.

I would say not to worry about it! Just a newbie thing,and you are a better person for commenting on your honesty openly to everyone. I have admiration for people like you :) I gave you rep points as well, for your sincere honesty ;)

Might it simply come down to genetics? Are not men "hardwired" to spread their seed in order to increase population? Millions of years of evolution can not be discounted so quickly. Grant it we all have control, or think we have control, over our hormones, etc. but when it comes right down to it do we? Plus as others have alluded to and no doubt others will in the future as well. Men are never really satisfied! We are indeed a visual, always ready to go species who will undoubtedly continue to be so in the future. I also wonder if convenience and possibly even laziness comes into play on our end? Think about it, if I (for example) wanted to have sex this very night with a lady other than a wife/girlfriend what would have to happen in order for that to occur? Excluding the "bar scene" I would need to find a date, then invest in dinner and pre. and post dinner activities such as dancing, a walk on the beach, skating, horseback riding, etc. All valid and fun activities but still expensive and time consuming plus without a partner utterly useless if the end result is SEX. Keep in mind that if your date was successful and sex did occur what would the ramifications be? Unwanted phone calls, an awkward feeling the next morning, etc. Contrast this to being able to simply contact a "professional lady" that caters to your particular taste and you have all the fireworks with none of the fuss! Keep in mind that this is one possible theory, not that I endorse this particular line of thinking but it is indeed a possibility.

There are many disadvantages to being a woman, but there are advantages too. One of the advantages is that we are valued in the dating market. Simply put, we don't need to pay for sex and we can even charge for it. Also, this may be controversial and some will disagree with me, but I'll say it anyways. This is a huge generalization, but I believe that most men are never really fully satisfied by masturbation, whereas women can fully satisfy themselves and a vibrator can be more pleasurable than a man.