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The last thing I ever want to do is offend anyone..Sometimes it happens or I'm at the wrong place at the wrong time trying hard not to say something that someone might not like. I'm trying right now not to post this thread, my fingers won't stop typing. My sympathies to the families that have lost any loved ones. Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie will surely be missed by many and will be remembered to us by the work the have done and many accomplishments that help us in our daily lives. Unfortunately, we can't help them now. But there are people we can help. Throughout the 1990's more than 100 million children died from illness and starvation. Those 100 million deaths could have been prevented for the price of ten Stealth bombers, or what the world spends on its military in two days!The World Health Organization estimates that one-third of the world is well-fed, one-third is under-fed one-third is starving- Since you've started reading this, at least 200 people have died of starvation. Nearly one in four people, 1.3 billion - a majority of humanity - live on less than $1 per day, while the world's 358 billionaires have assets exceeding the combined annual incomes of countries with 45 percent of the world's people. To satisfy the world's sanitation and food requirements would cost only US$13 billion- what the people of the United States and the European Union spend on perfume each year. Every 3.6 seconds someone dies of hunger

There are enough resources for everyone on this planet so that everyone can eat and have a roof above. The reason as why so many are starving and diseased is because there is a small minority (about 1% of planet's populations who own 80% of total wealth and have tens of millions in bank accounts and houses and jewerly and want even more and 10% of planet population who have more than they need, about 30% just enough and the remaining buttom 50% population (having exact same things, that is two hands, two legs, one heart, one brain....) having absolutely nothing (starving and homeless). I read somewhere that the food that North Americans and Europeans throw away in a year can feed well hungry stomachs for a year. Yes I agree it is mostly political problem. Damn dictators backed by military and thugs coming to power by force and got themselves rich by corruption and stealing from the nation and they don't care less about their population. In fact they wish to keep them in poverty and illiterate so that they don't know about their rights as a citizen lol. Also the fact that their brains flee their country to the rich lands lol. In my view the problems are unfair distribution, greediness (human nature) and political corruption and lack of care by those who are among the haves about have nots. Yes they need our help (DOLLARS) rather than sympathy but threads like this also brings awareness about world problems and is great. There are organizations who are trying to help. If every person in the rich countries donate as little as 2% of their annual income to international charities and aid organizations then it may really help to reduce disease and poverty. They also try their best to make sure that most of the money is well spent and goes to those who really need it rather than the fat PIGS ruling those countries to get even fatter. I have faith in world Vision (they are other organizations too) and encourage anyone to do their own research and do their part to help out with dollars rather than sympathy. As they say Tears are not enough anymore... These organizations send young kids to school and assist their poor families rather than buying them food for a while. Teach them how to fish so that they fish for lifetime, so to speak, rather than catching fish for then for a few days.

Just a quick comment and hope this isn't thread hi-jacking. While yes, I prefer outcalls, and no matter where, I do have to travel to see ladies, first and foremost consideration is the lady's preference and comfort zone. If she prefers incalls, I'll see her at her place. Second matter, and some ladies do this already and it has been discussed in other threads. But for the lady to ensure her safety, verification methods are used. I'm very happy to provide requested information myself. Not only does it allow the lady to know who she is seeing, it goes great lengths to starting a trusting "relationship", even before we meet in person A quick rambling RG

Pumpkin Soup Prep Time:10 Min Cook Time:20 Min Ready In:30 Min Servings: 6 Ingredients 1 medium onion, chopped 2 tablespoons butter or margarine 2 (14.5 ounce) cans chicken broth 2 cups sliced peeled potatoes 2 cups canned cooked pumpkin 2 cups milk 1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon pepper 1 cup sour cream 1 tablespoon chopped fresh parsley 3 bacon strips, cooked and crumbled Directions In a large saucepan, saute onion in butter until tender. Add the broth, potatoes and pumpkin; cook until the potatoes are tender, about 15 minutes. Remove from the heat; cool. Puree half of the mixture at a time in a blender or food processor until smooth; return all to the pan. Add the milk, nutmeg, salt and pepper; heat through. Meanwhile, combine the sour cream and parsley. Spoon soup into bowls; top each with a dollop of sour cream and sprinkle with bacon. http://allrecipes.com/recipe/creamy-pumpkin-soup/detail.aspx

I don't actually know where to begin with this review. I have never had any good experiences with MA's in the past, I always left disappointed and my time was wasted...until last night!!!!! I don't really have enough words to explain what a phenomenal experience I had with Emily last night! She is probably one the most beautiful, sexiest, hottest and fun women I have met...ever!!! I have to admit that I was a bit nervous when I got in to the room, as I had no idea what to expect. She definitely was easy to talk to, but I could not get over how drop dead gorgeous this woman is!!!! I will say this, my back, shoulders and neck actually feel like a million bucks this morning...been a very long time since I could say that!!! I want to say thank you Emily, my perception of MA's was not the best due to a couple of very bad experiences in the past. You've totally won me over...3 times is the charm luv. ;) MUAH!!!! GIDDY UP LUV!!!!!! :D

This is horrible advice. The guy who underpaid her is wrong in what he did, but blackmailing him is not the right solution.

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

It is compensation for the ladies' time. If all client 1 wants is one thing, for a hour of the ladies' time at reduced rate vs client 2 wanting a hour long encounter including more than just the one thing paying full price, the lady is further ahead to see client 2. Her compensation for the same period of time will be higher. Doesn't make sense for the lady to offer one service only at reduced rate. She is shortchanging herself As I see it RG

There is no harm in asking for a particular service. The feathers get ruffled when it is assumed that just wanting a particular service should be less costly than what is viewed as full service. A half hour is a half hour no matter what transpires. I think that is what the ladies are trying to convey. If they offer a half hour minimum at XXX then what you both decide to do with the time is irrelevant unless she has a detailed advertised menu :) Oh yeah....my pet peeve....read the ads, website etc so that you know what it is that she does offer!

a couple of cents worth (or not): B&S is dishonest; To err is human and everyone deserves a second (not multiple though) chance; A lot of people think the only way to look good is by making others look less so :icon_rolleyes: There are too many people in life bothered by what others do: if you are happy with your own activities/ads whatever, then so what? As I quoted somewhere else, "You are to others how you behave yourself". Now back to the merlot..... CB

You ignore these requests. They are simply wasting your time. Or you simply say there will be no more pics, and leave it at that. And you provide discretion and therefor require it, so you are not going to provide a face pic for any reason. To see you, they need to commit and show up so that both of you have better reasons for privacy and discretion. (I tell enquirers asking for more pics that if pics are their sole reason for booking appts, I am not the one for them. I require someone who puts a little more thought into their sessions). You don't have to do anything, in some cases these requests are testing you to see how far you will go. In this biz, being too accomodating, past your own comfort level is a bad thing. For a newer sp, it is dangerous. I know this is an old post, but what you really need to do is spend some time reading many topics in the lounge, the new section, the ads, etc, and learn all the things in a short time that it took some clients and sps years to figure out. It will benefit you in the long run, and keep you safe, and keep you happier doing the work when you learn how to advertise and screen to attract the sort of clients that are going to be the best match for what you provide.

When I'm asked by a reg about doing something out of the usual, I let him know the rate. for outcalls are extra, as well, I do think most clients know this, and it is a good policy to charge extra for them if most of your calls are incalls. I have regs I have seen for 10 years, all pay up front, without exception. I've never had any problems with this, and highly recommend to never vary from that policy. The clients really don't expect or demand to be treated differently on a 3rd or 4th visit, in my experience.

Here is a good laugh ...lol! Do you have some Halloween laughs to add to this? Or Halloween spooky pics?

A great clip and Loreena on one of her better pieces as accompaniment. There is rarely a "magic bullet" for such complex problems. There are simple solutions if one can get past the man made barriers to implementing them. I think that has been in part behind the "Occupy" movement of the last few days too. Lovely video, thanks again CB

Save me a seat(on your lap) Angela, counting down the days Old Dog ;) XoXoXo

We are only human, and we tend to grieve to people who are closest to us and to whom we can relate. Grief is not and should not be a competition. The children you depict don't need our sympathy, they need our help and selflessness.

Then CATO you better make it to Winnipeg and find out the truth of what we all know.... Miss Ashley's ass is divine!

I find it funny that men want you to give them your location but they don't want to give you any info about themselves,is that a fair exchange!!

Agreed, always proffesional and a pleasure. One of the few I'd revist as well.

I have to say descrimination is wrong and is very hurtful to experience. But these women are not a Wal-mart store who aren't allowed to deni doing buissnes for what ever reason. The sugested opinion's that a women working in the sex industry must have any type of sexual relations with anyone she does not wont is so wrong. This is treating them like worthless meat. Its outright scary for women in this indury and is causing This is starting to turn into a rant and needs its own thread under womens rights and human trafficing. so I'll stop hear. All women need to be treated like respect and dignaty. Rubs

To echo Andys comments Cerb is indeed NOT CL or anything that remotely resembles it or its competitors. What flies on those sites does not fly here as Mod runs a tight ship with his "town councilors" also patrolling the fence. We (the general membership) also tend to want to keep things as drama and BS free as possible. This site, although not perfect, is the absolute best that we as hobbiests and SPs have to maintain civility without the fear of CL style ads, etc. That said I sincerely doubt anyone will take the first shot sort of speak but there are lots of people here who will stand up for themselves, each other and the board as a whole! That is what Cerb and its members offer, what Cerb and its members don't offer is a place to deceive and be less than truthful. No one will instigate here lest they be "spoken to by Mod" but we as a group will defend each other and the boards principles. As you seem to allude to no one likes to be misled and there are those of us who will call foul when they see it! As far as the issue with your photos go yes your erred and you were called on it BUT apologies were given and the issue seemed to die...perhaps it is best to let bygones be bygones.

Wow...my thoughts exactly. I don't concern myself with how other ladies advertise, I just concern myself with the friendships I have forged with them. Way more interesting way to spend my time :) since so many of them are really wonderful people!

ALI G!!!! Fo sho. Ok, Surf_Nazis_Must_Die--this ones for you Toxic Avenger OR Juliet

Dude, she put this on the general discussion forum. Last I checked, we can discuss pretty much anything on here as long as it's not about illegal activities and such. Her topic is within the framework of Cerb's rules and regulations. So basically, if you think a topic sucks, don't reply to it. That way it will drift off of the first page more quickly, and problem solved. However, if multiple people respond to this thread then clearly it is of some interest to multiple people on this board. So in which case the OP put up something worth talking about. I mean christ, one of the most popular threads in the general discussion area is called the unhijackable thread of randomness!

And why would that be? Is talking about gossip ay different then posting pictures of cats, songs, baking recipes or any of the multitude of topics discussed on CERB? There are threads on shannon tweeds engagement, steve jobs death and other related topics. Posted via Mobile Device

A somewhat difficult question to answer, actually. Whenever I'm with an attractive woman, I'm honestly interested in things going as far as possible. Maybe that's just me or my nature, or maybe it's just a guy thing. But, even knowing the rules/limits, it's hard not to think "damn I wish we could take this further." I won't say that it ever gets in the way of or intrudes on the enjoyment of what is going on, though. For me, part of the biggest preoccupation is that in sex I am at least equally and probably more interested in giving pleasure, and this is difficult in an MA scenario. I live the heat, wetness, smells and sounds of a woman enjoying herself and getting off. This is something that occupies my thoughts during an MA session because rules generally get in the way of realizing it.

I don't understand how her reputation and she apparently providing great service are factors that diminish the fact that she stood you up. In my opinion the action is the same coming from a reputable SP or from a new lady, is what she says when sge contacts you if she ever does that would make a difference depending on what made her not show. As for you saying all independents are difficult to pin down well I think you are generalizing, lack of professionalism may happen with both, agencies and independent providers. Posted via Mobile Device

The cerb community has been expanding lately with lots of hot new members, from the Maritimes, Ottawa, Toronto, and the West, and I'm pleased to extend a warm welcome to you all. I'm sure you'll help to keep this a lively and interesting site. We look forward to your input, and your positive energy. Please don't hesitate to contact me or other members if we can be of any help in getting oriented here. We want this to be a friendly and welcoming community, so, welcome!!!!

I've seen a number of ladies who have full verification requirements. That was my real name, board handle (plus pm from that board), phone, email, and reference. One lady I wanted to see required my workplace phone, but no reference...but since I work in a shared office, I declined. No encounter btw, and no hard feelings. Giving her my office number was outside my comfort zone, and me not giving it was outside her comfort zone, but no hard feelings I find it a strange reaction for the lady to be rude about you declining your work info. Gentlemen must respect a lady's boundaries...but likewise, a lady should also respect a gentleman's boundaries. If neither the lady or gentleman can work it out, part on amicable terms. But in no way should anyone question the lady's right for verification. No matter how much some guys protest about privacy concerns, the lady is always at more risk. And complying with verification sure is a great ice breaker to establishing trust Some quick ramblings RG

in a heartbeat!