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Whenever I read these threads, i always try to put myself in clients point of view. Honestly, if it were the other way around, I probably wouldn't want want to see a lady who doesn't respect herself enough to keep herself safe. With no screening methods, she clearly doesn't have enough common sense to protect herself as she lets anyone into her zone, really how safe could i feel spending time with her? If she has such clear disregard for her safety in that manner, in what other areas is she this careless too? Not to be dark here, and I know this is depressing to talk about but if I can clarify, at least from my perspective, why we screen. As sex workers, people murder us, plain and simple. Because of the stigma put out by society; that what we do is morally wrong, and therefore, we do not deserve the same respect as any other human being. Some men, like Robert Pickton, think its OK to hurt us. Our profession has one of the highest risks of death and/or serious injury. Our assault rates, next to nurses is the highest in the country, and the number #1 cause of death in this line of work is murder. If you look up statistics, the numbers for abuses against us are staggering. We, like police or fireman, blindly and selflessly put our lives on the line to serve the public for the greater good. I know when I see my client, the time we spend together is beneficial to him in some way shape or form, i make him happy and he likes to spend time with me. I cherish the thought that I am adored by these amazing gents who spend their very hard earned money to visit with me, talk to me about their lives and share their inner most fantasies, thoughts, hopes, dreams, fears and day to day lives with me. Whatever the reason, they gain something from their visit with me that is why they come, and I am flattered everyday by these wonderful people. That being said, there is alot of crazies out there, who do not treat us in the same manner. They have issues with whatever, and for some reason use us as an outlet for that rage. I know whenever someone walks through my door , I like a cop or fireman, am taking the risk of potentially being hurt or potentially losing my life. I do not know the risk of the situation, this person could be crazy, drunk, high, upset, angry etc. In my short time in this industry, I have delt with a few, and had a few close calls that scared the crap out of me, if it had gone left instead of right, I wouldn't be sitting here typing this now. Every incident was when I worked for an agency in another city, but I digress..... Because i value my safety, the safety of my clients, and the safety of my place of business, I do not just let any random person into my space with zero accountability. Every gent that has seen me has gone through my screening process, and provided me a number. Some one who told me a long time ago "those who cannot trust cannot be trusted". If you are wary of providing me a number, in my head, that tells me you do not want me to have any information about yourself. If you do not want me to have any information, and want to remain anonymous, you want to able to do something to me without any accountability, much like why a bankrobber wears a mask when he robs the bank. When you do not want to provide me with number, I think you have ulterior motives. As an sp, you talk to other sps, and in my short time in this industry, I have heard many a horror story of ladies accepting blocked calls and it having detrimental sides effects to her. Please don't think we do not get assaulted, beaten robbed etc, it happens more than you think. Every major city has a police line for us to call for "bad dates". If assaults on us never occurred do you think the police would spend all that money to have these specialty phone lines and units dedicated to crimes against sex workers? I am not trying to be a downer here, nor am I a trying to be on a soap box, I realize you gents have lives to protect and could be a little concerned with giving information. However, you are not the ones taking the risk of physical harm to yourself. We are women we are not as strong as a man, that why so many of us fall victim, we are in a vulnerable situation. You would not expect a police officer to walk into a dangerous situation without a gun, nor a fireman into a fire without protective gear. Is it really fair to expect us to see you with no protective means? We screen so that in some degree, you are not anonymous, so in the case you do assault us, we can report that to the police and protect other ladies from a predator. Knowledge is power. That's it, plain and simple, the only reason we want your info is to keep ourselves and others like us safe, and obvious practical reasons, like calling if there's an emergency en route and we need to cancel. Honestly, I have regulars I've been seeing for years that I still don't recognize their number when they call ( i must start programming them lolz) I honestly don't care what their number is. Some guys think we save all these numbers and were going to call you or something. I would never call my clients, I have no reason to. We are professionals, not "citizen" women; if you give us a number, after you are intimate with us we are not going to fall head over heels in love with you and start calling you all the time. We have our own lives and no reason to interact with you outside of the contact you initiate. I have never called a client unless i was asked to, period, that makes no sense to me, as well as most of the other ladies here. Sorry for the long rambling, this is not meant to be offensive or preachy,please dont take it as such, just meant to shed some light for you gents so you can understand an sp's perspective :)

In all the years of that I have indulged in the hobby I have never had an issue with using any phone that has displayed a number including cell phones. I understand the need for a call back number. Discretion is the key here, it goes a long way to understanding "Blocked Calls" The Service Provider is trying to run a business based on appointments. The only way to keep the business running smoothly is to be able to confirm appointments, provide locations and in the event of a serious problem, delay or cancel them. I consider this a legitimate need for a contact number, land line or cell phone or otherwise. Most members of CERB seem to seek out information on Providers before taking the plunge and booking the appointment and even in some circumstances will have gone through a Pre Screening. By then one should have a pretty good rapport with the Provider and an understanding of the need for a number that can be called. I have no issues with "Blocked Calls" Any type of a Business that is based on Services has a legitimate need for contact phone numbers. Why should the Business that the Providers are running be any different. Try booking an emergency after hours call to a heating technician without a call back number... Rodehard

Further to what Luxie was saying, assaults and robberies and other altercations are rare, but they do happen and it only takes that one time that could be difference between life and death. I can recall at least 3 or 4 times in the past few years when girls (mostly new to the business or desperate for cash) called me up crying to tell me something had happened. And when I asked for the guy's number so I could at least bad date list it, they sheepishly admitted the guy called blocked or from a payphone or using a calling card. In one instance, the guy grabbed her wallet out of her purse (even though she had no money in it), and chucked it in the garbage in the front of her building, so she was lucky to get it back, but still.... So, even though a callback number is not a guarantee of safety, it's just one minimal measure most of us have as a record of something rather than nothing. It's a very little thing to ask for. No offence, but you are just not "that important" for me to want to screw around with privacy or ruin your life by me having your number. I don't even care if your name is Tom, Dick or Harry, but a number - yes, that's all I ask for is a callback number. Regular hobbyiests have known the drill for years that if they want to book an appointment, the minimal they have to provide is a number. When you start thinking you are more special than others and we should give exceptions, you are already not respecting a lady's boundaries, so no wonder she isn't going to be too warm to the idea of even seeing you. Unless the guy or lady (stick with reputable providers) has a agenda, this should NEVER be an issue. Period.

In this lifestyle there is a balance between your privacy versus the ladies safety and security. Really, on the balance of things, a cell phone is very minor. And as much as a lot of men may think their privacy is of paramount importance, it truly is the ladies that take much more risks, be it with their safety to no shows, well at least until they at least get to know, and like you. A lot of ladies mitigate that risk somewhat by requiring verification, which means in addition to providing a contact phone number and email, not to mention confirming board handle through pm, you provide your real, yes real name and a reference My experience, when you are open with a lady providing this amount of information, they don't abuse it...they are very appreciative that you provided it and it goes a long, long way to establishing trust, even before you meet in person. If you are reluctant to just provide a cell phone number, I can see it raising warning flags to the lady. If you have trust concerns about providing a lady just a cell phone number, maybe she isn't a lady you should see in the first place. And from the lady's perspective, if you don't trust her with any information, be it just a phone number right up to full verification information, why would you expect her to trust you to be alone with intimately? A morning rambling RG

Guys, guys, guys.... You've heard it all before. Please, if you tell a lady you are close-by when you confirm, be honest! If you say you have a GPS, then use it. I don't understand the need to tell little fibs like that. I am expecting you at a certain time, and I ask that a phone call be made when you are running late. (In fact, there's a little blurb about punctuality protocol on my website). Do: be honest with me. If you're not in the area, tell me and let me know you may be late. Don't: tell me you're close, and have a GPS, then somehow manage to be late. Do: call or text if you are having trouble finding the place. Don't: waste my time. End rant. Posted via Mobile Device

I recently got a PM that made me smile. In it, a lady referred to me as respectable because she knew that I had visited many ladies in the business. I knew what she meant. It was that over time, I had demonstrated that I wasn't weird, creepy, dangerous. Not excessively so, anyway. At least as far as I can tell, in what could be posted publicly for broad consumption. But I jest. I know this already. I can see it in the way that ladies respond when I ask to see them. I can tell because often they don't even bother to contact the references that I'd supplied. Every once in a while, I get a subtle and sometimes not so subtle question about when I'm going to come calling. But what had made me smile is that exactly the things that have made me respectable in this world is exactly the the thing that would make me disrespectable in the outside world. Here, having seen many ladies, having well and truly sown my wild oats, makes me trustworthy. And in the outside world, that would make me untrustworthy. Associating with ladies of questionable respectability is frowned upon. Not settling down, focussing most of my attention on one woman and one woman alone. I'm comfortable in both worlds. But it is when the worlds intersect outside of me that I become perplexed. I never know where the lines are when a lady gets rather more interested in interacting outside than the paid service transaction. I struggle to find things to say when I lunch with the lady who always wanted me to do things that I could never talk about in the outside world, and I know little else about her. Perhaps it's because lately I've been spending a lot more time in the outside world than this one, that I was more conscious of these opposites. I am a different person in each world. But each of these people are both a part of me, yin and yang, mirror opposites. My hobby persona is as much a part of me as the color of my eyes, the gap in my teeth, my crooked smile. I cannot be fully me without the outlet for creative desires, and of course the more carnal desires, that he provides. So I thanked the lady of my PM for the compliment. And smiled.

Bobbi is in Winnipeg and I took advantage of that and decided to see her. We first started communicating via email. She always responded promptly and courteously....then after a few emails I told her I had a few questions about certain things and she was more than willing to discuss. The big day finally came and I was directed to her secret hideawy which is a very nice condo in a good part of town. Parking might be an issue depending on the time of day (business hours). I was greated at the door and I was all smiles. Bobbi is very easy on the eyes. After a bit of chit chat I went into the shower to freshen up. As I walked into the bedroom, Bobbi was there to greet me dressed in her sexy lingerie. Bobbi advertises that she has soft touchable skin, and that is so true. I won't get into details but we just let nature take it's course. One thing I can say is that Bobbi is a very sensual and sexual woman and I intend to see her everytime she visits our city. (please don't pm me about specific services as I am a very safe player and Bobbi has a detailed list on her website) Enjoy!

Actually it's not a review board, it's a recommendation board As for the question, it is really subjective, not objective, as what is best to one guy may not be the best to another guy RG

If I can't find the words to explain what position I want from an SP, I use Lite Brite to illustrate it. It's fun!

I've never had a SP ring me on the number I've provided. But this is why having a burner makes sense. You only need to have it on when calling to book, and when going to the appointment for confirmation purposes. The rest of the time it's off, which means there is no potential for embarrassment. If my work or personal phones are off, people would be asking questions. And if you object to having to pay the costs of the phone, then you definitely are in the wrong hobby!! Porthos

You never know who is calling. If I were an SP i would not accept block calls. is it a friend or foe, is it the police, is it a banned client. and many more. I believe all SP's require a call back number. Emergencies happen, with family and close friends. I would not book with an SP that does not get a call back number. So I support the SP's in not answering blocked calls.

When I looked at your original I was really surprised by your comment that you were considering dropping out of the hobby if you had to get a burner. I think you will find many great positive comments about getting one, and their importance in the subsequent posts. I get the impression from your comments that you have concerns regarding your privacy, which in this day and age really is a myth unless you take extraordinary steps. Do your research and trust your instincts and you won't have any trouble. I have never had any of the ladies contact me privately, unless I had told them that I was open to hear from them. On the other side of the coin I think you have to look at it from the women's perspective. They are in an industry that has an enormous amount of risks, and this is just another tool that they have to manage the way they do business and help mitigate a bit of the risk. Probably, if you looked at the statistics, the ratio of "bad dates" to dates is pretty high, so give them every chance you can, because at the end of the day they deserve any help we can give them.

I like Gena because of her corky sense of humor and for her contrabutions to the the story game lol....

If the exchange of money is only for non-sexual companionship it isn't considered prostitution. Hence the disclaimer.

I like hfx's avatar and his total sweetness!

I am looking for anyone to know the where abouts of those 2 ladys. The first one was working at paradise spa (sommerset betwwen kent and lyon) about 6 to 7 years ago. Her name was bianca. tall french and busty. The other one was working at Tripple A before the new management she was tall blonde they were 2 of them trying to find out where they are? Hope someone can help me

This thread makes me feel better about being 26. Although I do miss the glass bottles though :( Used to have those before I moved to Canada

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I don't think you should take any responsibility for anything that was said in this thread. In my opinion, opposing ideas/opinions are welcome here, that said it can lead to heated discussions. Also, a lot of times it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

I think it's too early to say whether Harper will get another majority. He may have stolen the one he has. We'll see how the Elections Canada probe into the robo-calls turns out. At the moment, it doesn't look good for Harper HQ. There's plenty of disgruntlement, too, with Harper's cavalier disregard for telling the truth, not to mention his inability to appreciate that $25 billion is a heck of a lot more than $14 billion. There is no popular interest in harsher prostitution laws. None. There is enormous public concern about street sex workers and how badly they've been treated for decades, and not just in Vancouver. No one who seriously engages with the issues imagines for a heartbeat that harsher laws will solve the problems, real as well as imagined, about street prostitution. There will be people who want to invoke the specter of busy brothels popping up across the street from elementary schools, but I think that sex workers' organizations will have a lot of impact on what happens municipally. Independent companions are difficult to govern, adept at being virtually invisible and we generally ignore laws that aren't good for us. There are also a heck of a lot more of us, everywhere, than anyone outside the industry imagines--way too many for there to be any reasonable hope of licensing all of us or whatever else some folks may think is an appropriate way to control us. We're not easily controlled. If the Harper government wants to do something to show that they're still tough on prostitution, they'll probably play with the human trafficking laws. No one is in favour of trafficking. I don't think that our laws about trafficking are a problem, though. The real issue is that they aren't being enforced.

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I think that asking how one could allow their partner to "sleep around" and pretty much judging other ladies who do have partners is quite offensive. First of all nobody tells me what I am and am not allowed to do. You claim to say that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't see how providing an opinion about other SP's lives will get you anywhere. This thread is discussing YOUR opinion of personal relationships and working as an SP. Giving an opinion about YOUR life is great but beware of blatantly disagreeing and putting down other who live differently. This would be why you might feel the need to get defensive. "I simply don't understand a "man" wanting his partner to be with orther men,but to each their own." So not only are you putting "man" in quotations (I don't understand what you are saying, and to not assume the worst that you are saying that a man who does is less of a man) but stating you don't understand. I don't know who asked you, frankly. If you can't do it fine, but as being an SP in a relationship, and a very comfortable one at that, I find it quite offensive, and I rarely get offended. So now not only are you trying to "understand" how other SP's do it, but you are judging the men they are with?!?!?! How can you even come close to understanding, especially in that mindset. "I don't know how someone can do this and maintain a personal relationship,since this business involves sex,how can one person become that aroused?" Me personally I find the more sex I have the hornier I get. Sure some days I am tired and I communicate so, but this is rare. Sex is sex. It is fun, and the more open of a mind you keep about it, the more you will enjoy it. That is my philosophy. I meet my clients with a positive attitude, and thus receive the same from them. Some days I have 4-5 orgasms in a day. That is the perks of my job. "I mean if you are intimate with your partner,then meet with another gentleman or two or three that day I don't understand how one can become genuinely aroused with each man.Perhaps my labido is lower than most(however I don't think so) or are some just great actresses?" How is this not judgmental in the least??? To explain to you HOW I will say that once I am in a state of arousal, an orgasm does not render me not wanting anymore. Once I am in a state of arousal it actually makes my time with clients better. I am "hornified" so to speak. Any orgasms after the first one come faster and easier. If you can't imagine this, maybe you do have a lower libido...Are you saying that your not acting? Yes I will admit I provide a fantasy, and I completely put myself in that role. It's not a big secret that you must "out" us "actresses" on. It doesn't mean I'm "faking" it as you're trying to say, but I put myself in the "Julianna" mindset. I think we are complex human beings, and being an SP lets me play out my "naughty" side. We have many different sides to us. We all have different roles that we play in life. When I'm doing my taxes I am in "accountant" mode. When I am practicing, I am in "fighter" mode. I don't bring my "fighter" self or my "accountant" self to my sessions. I bring my sensual side. I have wonderful clients who make me feel attractive and beautiful, and I feed off that energy. I wear different hats in my life and love my life this way. All in all your initial post didn't really state what YOU think about YOUR OWN life, but rather how much you don't understand how others live differently. If you can't, you can't, its your life and your the only one who lives with the consequences. No need to put the rest of us down. Lots of SP's have relationships outside this line of work, and they make it work for them their own way. As per not being able to turn on or off your emotions and feelings, that is your opinion. Other women such as myself believe in the strength of my brain over my body, and I know that if I go in with a certain "attitude" I will get turned on. Is it a sin to enjoy my clients? I am not acting, I am putting myself in a certain "mindset". I'm not being "fake". I don't consider it "cheating" either. It is always me. It would be quite awkward if I brought "Julianna" home with me while I was cleaning my house, I would turn into some sort of sexy maid ;). I don't do that, I wear my sweats and get down and dirty. When I finish that I have a bath with bubbles and put on some sexy lingerie and perfume and make-up, and then I feel "sexy" and revved up. I love it when I open the door to my client, and they look at me like a Christmas gift ready to be un-wrapped. Selfish? Crazy? Weird? Yes...but it turns me on so sue me... I could go on but I think I covered most points I wanted to cover. Yes this is MY opinion, and I'm giving it. I love my job, my life, my family. All of it comes together is such a beautiful harmonious way. It works for ME. I don't judge others who live differently then I do, nor do I try to "understand" it. I am happy, and wish everyone the same thing. Lots of people wouldn't "understand" how we could be SP's in the first place, because they are close-minded. People like that don't need to know. I wouldn't bring my "SP" self when I go meet clients for my other "regular" business, especially since it is a male-dominated business, and actually need to "downplay" my sexuality, or else they wouldn't take me seriously. I am a professional and give my ALL to everything that I do in my life. I want to be the best and strive for this. Knowing I did a good job, in any part of my life, makes me happy. I definitely do not let my "emotions" rule my life. I am a rational thinker, and always use common sense. I truly believe if you strive to find happiness in anything you do, you will find it, and will in turn be a happier person.I feel so blessed in my life I really couldn't ask for anymore. I get to have my cake and eat it to!!!

YAAAAAAAAAY thank you. Since the change in the law, so many people are assuming FS is now provided at any and all places that do massage. Just because it's no longer illegal does NOT mean it's available. There has been no change to the services offered at the massage parlor I work for, and there will continue to be no change. And I feel I can confidently say the same for the other massage studios in Ottawa.