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Another spoiler alert. Ian has nominated Shane and Jenn. I don't care who goes as long as Ian makes it to the final three (I know I'm biased but I have a sweet spot for him). Part of me thinks Ian is playing Dan. I really don't think Dan has a shot at winning the grand prize (no matter who he's up against).

Hmmm does this mean Ur not coming to see me now? :( Hope you clarify soon.

Thanks babe, I guess I don't make the cut here as I am not eye candy or young enough!!! :icon_smile::icon_smile::icon_smile:

I think of it as a good way to get busted by one's SO if she does not approve of the visits. But it sure does smell purdy :icon_smile:

Hey kiddo, I am not a service provider and am a virgin only in i have not seen a service provider yet, hopefully this year. So that said I can provide you with this advice: 1. This would be a wonderful way to lose your virginity, at least better than ten minutes of pumping and rolling off and leaving which was my first experience. 2. Understand if you go through with it though these wonderful women will likely be more tender, giving and in tune with your needs than a woman say you later fall in love with and date. I say this so you don't set this as the bar that you expect all women to follow, these women get paid for their companionship because they are the best at what they do, trust me, not all women have the guts they do. I would advise if you go to an SP for your first time, that you take time to learn how to be generous with a woman while you are there. This is a tool that will get you far in life! 3. You are like me in that we have not taken the plunge into meeting with an SP. Be careful when you are talking to them that you are upfront about your ability to meet. I have contacted a few to get rates while doing my research, but I am stuck right now that husband has said no, at least no for now. so i stick around because it will happen one day,and because i admire the women and their empowerment, but they know the score with me. Advice: find the one you want and go for it, if you have nothing holding you back except for nervousness....okay short story: i was a virgin at aged 19 and wanted to get laid. i called those phone lines to meet other people in your area. (party lines, before internet). I made a few appointments with men to break my virginity (not service providers, just horny men). I got so nervous i didn't show for a few....whatever that's okay i was young and while disrespectful meh, but the ladies here are different, this is their livelihood so if you say you are going to be there, then be there. end of that rant is the dude I did meet on the phone chat line who did take my virginity, well it was awful and as he was leaving I said to him "well you certainly helped me decide if I prefer men or women". :) Good luck, sorry for long answer!

These ladies are all amazing...but there is only one problem... he live in PEI :)

The unfortunate thing is that she is probably already doing his bidding and he thought perhaps he could find a way to advertise her on here...kind of a sympathy type of thing. Guys would feel sorry for her or wish to teach her the finer art of intercourse. People think up some weird ass ways to market a product. Terrible that the product happens to be a young lady.

And what most of us do is in fact legal and not a issue for LE. Not to mention the gentlemen here like, respect and appreciate the ladies we see. But pimping out a girl, it's not only illegal, it's sleazy, immoral and unethical too. And in all likelihood how do you think a pimp keeps a girl who hates sex with strangers (my guess hates sex with the "boyfriend" too said in quotes because no real b/f would force his g/f to do this...he would care and protect his g/f, not pimp her out) in line (continue to have sex with strangers)...likely hook her on drugs I hope the cops saw his post and can do something. And I hope the g/f sees all these posts and sees her "boyfriend" for the exploitive loser he is and leaves him RG

Judging from a couple posts one important thing to add. If you schedule an encounter KEEP THE APPOINTMENT. Don't be a "tire kicker" That is nothing but rude and your going to develop a bad reputation in this community (yes, it's a community) if you do so. As much as this is a very intimate lifestyle, it is also at it's core, a business, and the ladies' livelihood. Ladies don't mind answering serious enquiries, but they do mind having their time wasted. You need to follow through on your enquiry by booking and keeping an encounter. If you have no intention of scheduling an encounter, don't waste the ladies' time. If it's a case of shyness/nervousness you need to overcome this (it's mind over matter). And tell the lady in your email you are shy/nervous. But still follow through with your encounter And standing ladies up, whether in this lifestyle or conventional dating, not cool at all It's all part of being a gentleman and showing common courtesy. RG

Maybe the providers gave up on you because you've never followed through on a visit.

I totally get your concern. But I always work under the assumption that ALL is seen. Privacy, in the internet age, is an illusion. I am not worried though. For quite some time I worked at an agency, never had an LE issue. 3+ years independent, same thing. The Cootchie Cops aren't looking for me. I don't ad car dates, illegal activities, steal from people or otherwise call attention. Do they know I exist? Absolutely. But I am SO the least of their concerns. Same with Hobbyists. Predators, however, are another matter entirely. I have no fear of Cerb being a target. Their parent company & affiliates are reputable, tax paying businesses. Wannabe Pimp Daddy, on the other hand: Bring in da funk, bring in da noise. And the cameras. Guys like this need a scarlet letter. A big old P. Sandi

I'm sure there are ladies who would accommodate your request. Contact a lady who interests you and be very respectful...in short be a gentleman. Tell her a little about yourself, provide verification information if requested, in short be up front with her. Mention in your email that you are a virgin and obviously inexperienced. But make sure from your email that she knows you are a gentleman she would be comfortable being with When you have the encounter, pace it. By that, book the encounter long enough for some social time (conversation etc) before any sexual activity takes place. And besides the donation, a tip and gift would be a nice added touch...after all, you always will remember with fondness the lady who took your virginity. The tip and gift a nice token of appreciation for the lady who did something so special for you RG

Ahhhh! Excuse me....ladies..please I do care what you ladies use. In fact when I go for a facial or pedicure I get hints from those specialist for my face and feet especially after a long hot summer vitamin e cream is important for aging and from sun. On a daily basis I shower with Dial body soap, I've been told I have very soft skin too and nice nipples (lol :) ) My favorite body soap is Shea,Jojoba & Mango by dial and you smell great too ! Here is a link to their product body soap. http://www.dialsoap.com/bw_triplemoisture.html

Well we men, well me, may not care exactly what you ladies use (and different ladies use/require different things). But, well speaking for me at least, I do appreciate, amongst other things, your soft smooth silky skin. And knowing there is some effort into maintaining it, that effort is appreciated RG

"Gay for Pay" is a lucrative business. If you're in debt, take one up the...I mean for the team. See how you like it before you ask her to do it. Don't ask anyone to do anything for you that you won't do for yourself... cat

All women, all shapes, all races, abilities, religions, all of it. You're all beautiful. I will echo what others have said; be respectful and clean and you'll do fine! I can't emphasize this enough--you have no need to feel self-conscious! After all, some of us CERB ladies are plus-sized ourselves ;)

I was hesitant to bring this up , bbbj and bbfs, mostly because I love bbbj, but I'm just wondering why so many are appalled at the idea of bbfs but there is little to no condemnation of bbbj, cim etc. I realize it is a very intimate act, I also realize there are many more risks with bbfs not to mention I personally do not want to perform daty on a lady after the previous client has done his business down there. All that said I appreciate that community is looking after each other with raising topics like this, but I am just a little (i'm not shocked by any stretch of the imagination) surprised at the response to this topic because there is very little conversation/concern around other "risky" behavior. I'm not saying that risky behavior it isn't discussed, but people seem very concerned about this issue.

Like literally two hours ago, and it was great! As of this morning, I was a 26 year old virgin. I never felt ashamed or unaccomplished being a virgin, I had reached this point as a choice. But I was not confident with intimacy, most if not all girls I've met have been pretty sexual or have a sexual past which always intimidated me (I never saw them lower, but felt a bit in awe). I avoided relationships because I was worried about the physical intimacy part, I was going to fall flat on my face. And I created this mind block. I noticed a few threads on this forum about guys who are virgins looking for an SP, but there was no mention if they went through with it, and if they did, how they felt about it. So I thought I'd share for anyone who are in the same shoes I once was. In a nutshell, I loved the experience, and I have no regrets. I got in touch with Peachy a week ago, and explained that I was a virgin, and that was something I wanted to change. She was incredibly thoughtful, and put me at ease with asking her to take me to the other side so to speak. I was nervous, actually, I was anxious for her to come. I booked 3 hours, and I asked her to stay an hour longer once she was here (I was having a great time and didn't want to rush it). So my reasons for doing what I did. 1) I'm more confident with safety when it comes to the women here then the general public. If anyone knows about safety, these ladies do. This was my number one priority always (even before I came up with this idea) 2) I wanted a positive non-judgemental environment (at least in my mind). I didn't want to think and over think everything I did, and with her, I was more then comfortable. I was able to explore, try out stuff that I wouldn't have done with maybe a girl I was dating. 3) I was confident in asking her how I could be better. And I took everything she said constructively, and it was a lot better then I imagined! 4) Confidence! I met this girl a couple of months ago that seemed to be very interested. Back then, the old me kept things between us friendly but non-sexual. I think given the situation now, I'd act much differently. My confidence in this department took a massive beating the last couple of years for reasons too long and boring to share here. I feel as if one evening took all of that self doubt away. Downsides? I don't feel as if there were any. I don't feel any regret, or remorse or anything of that sort. I was hoping when I asked Peachy was that she be someone awesome (I've read some stories here about people having soso dates). Peachy was AMAZING in that she was so understanding about my fears, and newness. I bring this up because I found her through going through pages and pages of reviews. There are some awesome women here, but I found one with very complimentary reviews, and it worked for me. Which I guess leads on to my next part. Would I recommend a virgin meet an SP? To each their own. I wrote down a list of reasons why this would be a good idea vs a list of why this was bad. My bad side of the list had some religious objections, but then the good side had religious support for getting help any way possible (my confidence was shot). There are some that say that this experience should be with someone special. And I think that applies for some people for sure, but I treated this as a learning/therapeutic visit more then anything else. The rate I was going, I was not going to be able to meet that someone special ever. Recommendations: 1) Take your time, read reviews, talk to who you are interested in 2) Take your time, don't book just 1 hour. For the first two hours, we took it slow, talked a lot, and made it more intimate. 3) Figure out your reasons. I was brand new at this, and I think if this is your first time, trying to go into this to fulfil a fantasy might be putting too much pressure on you and her. Just explore the sensation, explore your body (I discovered things about my body I was pleasantly surprised about). 4) Tell her you're a virgin! And that's when you first get in touch with her, not when you meet. I can't think of anything else. This being a recommendation board, this is mine :)

For me, it's mostly attitude, manners, hygiene and respect that determine YMMV rather than physical attributes or someone trying to tip me to do something I'm not comfortable with.

I just watched the After Dark show from Thursday night. I had stopped watching the AD shows and now I remember why :) I can't stand listening to people chew food, when they have mics on it's even worse. I hate to pick on her because she's receiving a lot of negative posts lately but listening to Danielle talk annoys me to no end. All she does is whine, she has done nothing to make it this far so I think she should be grateful she's even still on the show. Spoiler Alert! Ian won HoH, so he's made it to final four. There was a moment where he was in a room by himself pacing back and forth and he says "Socially inept loser makes it to final four, unbelievable!" It still sounds like he wants to keep Dan around which I find hard to believe, Dan is the only one who can beat him at this point. Hopefully he's just playing Dan but I don't think so.

Well 42092 sounds like you are on the right path with a special lady. For what it's worth, just from her profile, if I were in Charlottetown I would give Aubrey a call for an encounter. She sounds like a wonderful lady. And for you, she is the one who would be great to take your virginity. Treat her special, because irrespective of the donation, she is the one lady sharing and participating in a very special moment in your life, one that happens only once and you will always remember For whatever it's worth RG

Without divulging the top secret info we have exchanged throughout our pms I do believe that the advice given throughout this thread i think verifies what i have told you. Being a virgin will usually not affect the choice of an Sp deciding to have an encounter with you or not, but respect and class and approach has a lot more to do with it. Take care handsome and relax i will take good care of you :)

Way to go and thanks for sharing! I have helped several men lose their virginity as well over the years and it's quite the honor.

Sonny, everyone's comments have been spot on, and we're all rooting for you. This subject is near and dear to my heart, as I too was a "late bloomer". Here are just some thoughts. Procrastination is your enemy in this case. The longer you wait, either your first experiences will be crap, or you'll die a virgin. Research, research. Cerb ladies pages, or ladies with websites. On bp and other places you can't get much feel for someone before you start talking. Not sure just how young you are, but I would suggest someone at least mid 20's or a hot milf type, they'll be possibly more appreciative of your "condition" and not rush things. Through research you can find someone with at least some of the attributes that you've fantasized about, ie: red hair,bbw, etc.. Book a 2 hour appt., more if you can afford it. Any Cerb ladies I've met "in the flesh", or on line are considerate, caring women who maximize your pleasure if only you treat them with dignity. Another reason to go with someone in the age group I aforementioned: If you are very shy, have a disability, self image issues; they don't care. Believe me, many of us guys on here are middle aged, balding, slightly overweight, and not hugely hung, and the ladies make us feel like kings just the same. As for choosing a ma instead, maybe if a girl has not ever touched you or your dick at all, that might be a first step if you are really terrified. If if it were me, I say go sp. An sp will chat and relax you, maybe with a bit of massage. She'll be glad to let you explore her anatomy from head to toe, and she'll do the same to you. Somewhere along the line there will be some bj. Being a young buck, you prob. will have gone off by now, so you'll be glad you booked extra time. Before the session is done you will finally put it in. You will leave having finally achieved manhood. You will feel like you are walking on air for about a week. After another session or two you willbe fucking like a pro. You will exude confidence and look deeply into womens' eyes while talking to them, and they will smile. You wil also be more confident in all aspects of life. I'm not there to hold your hand, but if I was in Charlottetown, I know where I'd be headed. Damn, I'm getting a boner thinking about it. These are things I wish my dad would've told me long ago. Now get your butt out there and go for it kid. Pm me if you need encouragement. I'm sorry everbody, for being so longwinded, but I was where he is now, and I'm just trying to help him.

Here are a few of my observations. From your post, I don't get the impression that you are terribly enthusiastic, so maybe the problem is that you're being too tentative. I tend to think it's best to try the old fashion way first, get out and socialize, find a girl friend and invest yourself in a relationship. But if you've made the decision to hire a professional to cope your cherry, then by all means. Maybe you need to cast your gaze a little farther afield, you're in a fairly small market with limited options, so maybe you might have to take a road trip. Find someone with a bit of maturity and a good rep, check the reviews on a number of boards, and take a look of some of their posts. I don't think there are too many ladies out there that your virginity would be an issue as long as you're respectful. Lastly, try to keep your expectations reasonable and don't be too cheap. Good luck, enjoy, step up to the plate and do it.

What if I had stayed with my ex-husband (he's actually not a bad guy). What if I had not moved to Alberta, and met someone who exposed me to something that still haunts me today. What if I had had children. What if I had just stayed a little bit longer beside my mother's bedside, rather than worrying about running out of money at the parking meter.

I love silky smoothe skin. Yes, we might not know what products you use, but please keep up the fantastic work.

Had an amazing massage, facial and pedicure today. It was a birthday treat from my sweety.

I'm pretty sure he's dabbled here and there... As for the context in which he said it, I'm sad he turned out to be exactly as oppressive and crooked as everyone said he was. There was a time, long ago, when I hoped most of the negative coverage of Putin could be chocked up to anti-Russian sentiments State-side. Back then, I would have found this kind of comment thoroughly amusing. Now I just sigh. He says it because he can get away with saying whatever he wants.

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Good idea Cristy, its nice for us ladies to share out little secrets and the gents probably don't care what we use anyway! :) I use a professional line called PCA products for my face and for my body, Body Shop body butter.

I just exfoliate every second day, and use Bert's Bees shower gel, lotions ect. I try really hard not to use anything that has mineral oil on my skin but I am pretty lucky to have really smooth, soft, blemish free skin in general. Haha one of my closest friends is an estetician and she is always jealous of how I can barely take care of my skin and its still much softer and retains a tan for much much longer then hers. Posted via Mobile Device

70 percent off sale at my favorite store(which is a great thing). Spending my entire paycheque? Not so great. --sigh-- Posted via Mobile Device

Well I preface this by saying I'm not looking for a relationship, in general. I truly like the poly amorous nature of this lifestyle and have met many wonderful ladies, who I like, respect, and appreciate the escape they have provided me. That said, under the heading never say never, if both a lady and myself clicked to the point we both had feelings for one another, feelings with a capital "F" I could get involved with a SP. My opinion, based on my experience with the SP's I've met, is that they are very special ladies, offering companionship, and are much much much more than providers of just sexual services...they do make you feel like you are with your girlfriend, a very caring girlfriend, and treat you special. I should interject here, that the ladies irrespective of this profession are deserving of a loving caring relationship as is everyone, and should two people find true love, they should follow their hearts. True love doesn't happen everyday, and if you find it, grab it. But I must add, be careful that the feelings you have you aren't confusing because of the intimate nature of this lifestyle. Some could misconstrue the intimacy of an encounter with true feelings of love Now should the subject come up (can't foresee it, due to my age and where I live LOL), I would never broach it. The lady, due to the nature of this lifestyle needs to ask the gentleman, otherwise how would she know whether it is a client asking for a encounter, or a guy asking her for a "civilian" date I would, should it happen, be unashamed of the lady I am seeing, as I am now. Only discretion, more for the lady, keeps this a private compartmentalized aspect of my life. And I (if the lady is ok with this btw) would tell people where I met her. Big stumbling block for me, I honestly don't know if I could give up this lifestyle to have a conventional monogamous relationship (yes, for me, in my relationship life, I have always been monogamous) And it would be something to work out if she continued working (not judging, not saying she has to give up her profession, but it is something that has to be, at least for me, worked out) So short answer, yes, I could, under right circumstances, get involved with a lady Long answer, don't see it happening, and it is a relationship that has issues, for lack of a better word to be worked out. Finally, and I find it amusing actually, it's not a put down on anyone, because this subject has been brought up before, but the questions about a client getting involved with a SP come up time and again. I don't think people would go to eHarmony talking about escorts, why posts on CERB about relationships with SP/Clients...definitely though, said with a smile on my face. A long winded rambling from a happy single middle aged guy who enjoys this lifestyle RG

I have to give it up to Frank again, he kept his cool when he got evicted. I agree with the 3 previous posts, Danielle is a little crazy, on one hand she doesn't deserve to be there, on the other hand if you make it this far you do deserve to be there no matter how you got there. I can't read Ian when it comes to Dan, I kinda feel like he doesn't realize how slimy Dan is, however, I could be (and hope I am) wrong about that. Dan or Ian SHOULD win this game, I think Dan would win against Ian in the final 2 so Ian HAS to get Dan out. I've been watching this show since the beginning and I think this is a really good season and I'm glad this thread was created to talk about it.

I just saw this ridiculous post...yikes. How about you become a male SP ? I would luv to see your GF's critic of your looks, body, size of your package and how average you may be in the sack. Get a second job or try the bank big guy. Don't market a 21 year old girl.

Really, and maybe it's my spidey sense tingling here, does your g/f want to become an escort or do you want her to become an escort If she wants to become an SP, she should make the enquiries, not you Beyond that, no advice. No guy should ever be involved in getting a lady to become an escort, it's one thing a gentleman would never do My two cents RG

I'm with you on this one Nat! I offer strap-on play but I've come to realize many people DO think of it as a BDSM activity. So while I offer it, I do not offer BDSM - I'm not a dom, but I'll fuck you with my strap-on ;)

My what if.... What if I never left Alberta? (Id probably be married to a redneck and be driving a mini van)

Regardless of what any poll says, in my experience, BBBJ by far is the most requested service. Of course to each their own, but I feel there is something missing when there is a piece of plastic separating us for this delicious activity. If I am not comfortable with someone, I won't play with them altogether. Without beating a dead horse and talking about the potential risks, I know what they are, I do what I can to minimize them, but refuse to dwell or obsess about them. With a friendly and fresh gentleman, BBBJ is my FAVOURITE service to provide, and some may even say that it could be considered my specialty! I love to tease and please and drive a man absolutely wild in this way. I love the feel of the wet and slippery skin to skin. The feel of his manhood in my mouth. The feel of my tongue at the bottom of the shaft up to the tip. The challenge of seeing how deep I can go. The tension. And then the incredible and exciting release...like a culmination of all my close care and effort. Yum. ;)

Well, it's been far too long since I nominated a Goddess... so it seems appropriate to nominate someone I haven't seen for far too long: Jessica! Jessica was one of the first MAs I had the pleasure of seeing, and still one of the best. She's a beautiful person, inside and out. A moment, please, to reflect on this... Are you back? Good. And as an added bonus, she's willing to let things get extremely... messy, in the best possible way. I don't know who invented nuru massage, but I owe them a beer or three. Because... well, because this: Awesomeness. Very sexy awesomeness.

It means an unwinnable situation. In the book Catch 22 (set during WWII) you could only get out of the army if you asked to be released, and the only ground for release was insanity. But if you asked to be released that proved you were sane, so it was unwinnable.

... okay it's not such a secret. I LOVE this lady. Whenever we speak, she makes me smile from ear to ear. When I see her pics, it makes my heart go pitter pat. When I met her, I KNEW that all of my thoughts about her were absolutely accurate. She is the one and only.... Dorinda Bloom http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=D&t=10304 Miss ya hun!!!! xoxox

This ruling isn't about government intervention, or not. It's about rights. Does the child's right to bodily integrity outweigh the parents' right to exercise their religious beliefs, or not? The German court has simply ruled in favor of the child. Personally, I think it's a fantastic decision. I don't see how mutilating children is justifiable. Any child that grows up wanting to be circumcised for religious or cultural reasons or simply for shits 'n giggles is entirely at liberty to do so; the point is that it's *their* decision, not anyone else's. What I find odd is that a decision like this relating to female circumcision would be entirely uncontroversial. Granted, the female variety involves rather more cutting... but the difference is one of degree, rather than anything fundamental. It's all about hacking off bits of a child's genitalia in both cases.

Sorry, WIT. I was taking issue with the idea that saliva/the mouth would create a hostile place and thus reduce the risks. The risks seem to be the same, and saliva isn't a fixer, which was kind of my point of view posting. It just reminded me of the myth that since HIV is not normally transmitted orally, that it 'must' be because saliva kills HIV. Altho the thread has side tracked into a bbbj issue, it doesn't really take away from the fact that most people seem to want to ignore the real risks in favour of the sensations (or $$) that come with bbbjs. And to me the only reason to do this is to ignore the actual stats, information and std sites themselves. As mentioned, there seem to be a lot of teens getting gonorrhea now, and that is still the group with the highest infection rates of chlamydia. These people who are tested and treated and get statistically counted are only a fraction of the ones who don't get tested and treated, and move into adult life carrying this. Some become sex workers, still untested and untreated, and others become clients, still untested and untreated. This is how these things become epidemics. In Greece a crack down on the illegal brothels, and with enforced HIV testing (legal workers are required to test) found this result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/03/greece-prostitutes-hiv-arrests_n_1473864.html That is more on point with the actual thread topic: Many countries with regulations on legal prostitution make condom use for oral sex and sex mandatory, and a crime if they are not used. I doubt that they do these things just to be busybodies. They are based on real health and safety issues, not whimsy.

Exactly my point. Kissing, digits, and daty do not involve my interaction with semen, so the risk of catching an std from those three are minimal to none, there has never been a reported case of women catching HIV from DATY, ever. There are, however, reported cases of women, and photos if anyone cares to google, of women with std's from bbbj. This is proven medical fact. The disease is in the semen. No semen, no HIV. Very simple. My point was this, very simply, if you will put an unprotected member into one hole in your body, why is it any different in another? Your body is all connected, one unit. You mouth and your cookie aren't separate, the all belong to one organism, you. That's like saying, "oh ill inject heroin into my arm, but not into my foot." It's all connected, so I'm just trying to understand the reasoning/logic behind this thought process, of why one orifice is "safe" but another is not. I used to get mad about girls who did bbbj when i first started, I used to blame them when clients would call me, book an appointment, we're all set to go, and then they ask " oh btw, you do do bbbj right?" My response, as many can attest to, is always "as my health and safety, as well as the health and safety of my clients is my #1 priority, I do not engage in any unprotected services." and some would cancel on me. I do not hide that I'm a safe gfe, it's on my website in black and white. Some really respect me because of this. I had more than a few they tell me they're terrified of bringing something home, and I'm one of the few they can truly relax with, my business practices put their mind at ease. Some don't care either way. Others cancel on me. Why do I say all this? Because my perception has changed over the last my few years in my time in this industry. I realized getting mad at the ladies who do BBBJ is irrelevant, it will not change the fact that ladies will still offer it, and men will still ask for it. If you want to take risks like that, that your perogative. Just as I no longer get upset at the ladies who BBFS. There was at time when bbbj was taboo, someone told me they got in trouble working for an agency for a letting a guy cum on her chest. Now, fast forward 10 years, BBBJ is now the norm. In the U.S. SAFE GFE is norm, as well as Australia. Why did it change here? Because the ladies offer it, quite simply. If ladies didn't offer it, then no one could buy it. I remember one lady said "Back in the 90's, no guys had problem cumming with a condom on." Somewhere along the line, someone started offering, more guys asked for it, more ladies offered it. Us safe gfe's are few and far between, I am one of the last of a dying breed. So I wonder, why should BBFS be any different? Now, someone offers it, so now it's being purchased.I don't understand how can you get upset at guys for asking for BBFS when BBBJ's are the norm. It's just a natural progression. I think the logic is "if she does it unprotected in one orifice, she might let me in another." Dangerous logic, but logic none the less. For the sp, the risk factors for both are pretty high, you are the receiver of ejaculatory fluids, no matter which orrifice you get it in.The roads may be different, but they all lead to the same place. Being angry is pointless. I'm not knocking anyone's business practice, like i stated it's your body your choice. I honestly don't care what another lady does, its her life she can with it as she pleases. My point is, you can't get mad at guys asking for BBFS or ladies providing it anymore than us SAFE GFE's can get mad at ladies for providing BBBJ's. If we want to change guys asking for BBFS, the only way to do so is to stop the ladies that offer it, much like the only way to stop people from asking for bBBJ's is to stop offering them.Good luck with that. The ladies in countries like Cambodia do BBFS, so people ask for it and it's rampant. However, in countries like australia where SAFE GFE is the norm, unprotected services are frowned upon, and the ladies that do offer it (much like the ladies who offer BBFS here) are shunned. Whats the difference? The ladies in Cambodia are willing to do BBFS, the ladies in Australia are not. So really at the end of the day, what is asked of us by our client base is a direct reflection of what we are willing to offer. So we cannot get mad a them, the guys asking or the sp's that provide. We as sp's are the ones to blame.

I'm sorry, anyone please don't take this the wrong way, but what is the difference between providing bbbj and bbfs? I have never offered either service, i lose ALOT of business because i don't offer bbbj,never have never will,because i'm just too terrified to catch something, disease and illness, especially incurable/killer ones, scare the hell out of me. Putting a complete strangers member in my mouth without protection seems the same as having unprotected sex with someone I do not know from a hole in the wall; his fluids are entering my body which put my health at risk. HIV and other STDS are carried through the semen fluid, so if is guy is positive, how is putting it in your mouth any different from your cookie? Will the risk factor change? The way is see it, I'm too young to die, or get sick and because of this thought pattern, I have ALWAYS been a 100% safe gfe, and will never do bbbj, in my mind its the same as bbfs in terms of the risk factor. I'm just curious, why is it "ok" to do in the mouth, but not ok in other regions? I mean if your already doing bbbj,your already risking your health, how is doing bbfs any different, other than now the client is at risk too? Why is unprotected ok when the sp is taking all the risk ( bbbj) but not ok when both parties are at risk (BBFS)? Why is ANY unprotected service alright? Are the two really that different? Just curious? Please don't anyone take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to be rude or offend anyone,nor am i trying to judge, your body your choice. I truly just want to hear some other perspectives. Additional Comments: I'm sorry, anyone please don't take this the wrong way, but what is the difference between providing bbbj and bbfs? I have never offered either service, i lose ALOT of business because i don't offer bbbj,never have never will,because i'm just too terrified to catch something, disease and illness, especially incurable/killer ones, scare the hell out of me. Putting a complete strangers member in my mouth without protection seems the same as having unprotected sex with someone I do not know from a hole in the wall; his fluids are entering my body which put my health at risk. HIV and other STDS are carried through the semen fluid, so if is guy is positive, how is putting it in your mouth any different from your cookie? Will the risk factor change? The way is see it, I'm too young to die, or get sick and because of this thought pattern, I have ALWAYS been a 100% safe gfe, and will never do bbbj, in my mind its the same as bbfs in terms of the risk factor. I'm just curious, why is it "ok" to do in the mouth, but not ok in other regions? I mean if your already doing bbbj,your already risking your health, how is doing bbfs any different, other than now the client is put at risk too? Why is unprotected ok when the sp is taking all the risk ( bbbj) but not ok when both parties are at risk (BBFS)? Why is ANY unprotected service alright? Are the two really that different? Just curious? Please don't anyone take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to be rude or offend anyone,nor am i trying to judge, your body your choice. I truly just want to hear some other perspectives.

I get asked for this fairly often from new clients in their late 50s and 60s. They usually say something about how they haven't been with anyone other than their wife for years, so they're sure that they're completely safe. They tend to think that STIs are risks that younger people need to deal with but since I'm a professional they're sure I'm not carrying anything that they need to worry about. Needless to say, they don't get anywhere with me. I, too, have heard that other women provide bbfs for an extra $50-100. I don't pay any attention to these claims. Why? Well, in my experience, sex is one of the things people lie about all the time! If someone thinks that telling a particular story may help them get what they want, the incentive to lie is strong. I don't offer any uncovered contact, period. If someone questions me about it, I politely inform him that it's my job to keep us both safe and healthy. A syphilis epidemic has been going on in Vancouver since the mid 1990s. If I were to offer bbbjs, I might expose the recipients to syphilis unknowingly, since it can live very happily in a human throat for many months without producing any symptoms. This usually brings that conversation to an end!

I'm really glad I don't have Dr. Phil as my therapist. Yikes. I had less self-esteem when I working for wages that progressively got lower and lower as the years have gone by, working as an admin. assistant for employment agencies that gouged the federal government by billing almost twice they pay me (talk about pimps). Over the years, I have had to work with some people who treated me like crap, never showed me or other any appreciation, stuck me with demeaning tasks and blamed me when things went wrong. I was also let go once because I refused to do a task that could have jeopardized my security clearance. Since I had no union protection and the agency didn't care, I had no recourse in that situation. Oh, but I'm supposed to be proud of that because it's better than escorting. According to who? Dr. Phil of the bible belt? Since I have gone from part-time escorting to full-time escorting, I can work part-time hours for full-time pay and not have to put up with all that bullshit. I'd like to see Dr. Phil give up his standard of living to live in public housing, go on assistance or have to rely on food banks or charities to get by. This lady needs to look at why she is burning out. She mentioned her clients treat her good. Not knowing her full story or the details behind it, I would hesitate to comment on what she needs to do, but it sound like time management issue may play into this. I believe I have more self-esteem now that I did when I was doing office work and being unrewarded and unappreciated for my efforts.