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Of course. As long as you feel right with what you are doing, who cares what others think? However, what are you going to do when the guy you saw for an extra hour for free, comes back to see you? Are you going to give him another free hour? Will he feel that something is wrong this time vs. last time? What happens if the guy you saw and gave a bj instead of a hj tells all his friends and they all want the same treatment? It all comes back to "this is your business, you can decide what you want to do (or not do)". I would just make sure your communication to your clients is clear and that "this is an exception" to my rules is conveyed if you decide to do things differently. It can be a slippery slope. xoxo

Cristy, I've thought about your post and it has some particular relevance to me so I thought I'd comment. Just as you state, there are some firmly written rules in this business and there are some unwritten rules. I have always tried to be a "by the book" type client in hopes that the lady would never feel like I was attempting to take advantage of her or her time. So in the past even if the lady was not a clock watcher I definitely was and in fact as a result I have stopped a lady mid encounter (in terms of physical acts) because my time was up and left. I was just trying to be a gentleman and respectful of the ladies time and what I had paid for but what happened was the lady was left with a WTF feeling. I am aware that my view is probably not the norm in terms of clients and I've been informed that perhaps I might be a little weird because of it. Recently, I had a visit with a lady scheduled for two hours and she was so wonderful to just be with and talk to that I forgot to be my normal clock watching self (she was definitely not) and as a result before I realized it my scheduled visit was almost over. I had thoroughly enjoyed every minute of my time talking and connecting with her and could have left the visit feeling satisfied by her company. However, I found her very attractive and desired very much to be intimate with her (she was very hot). When I mentioned to her that it was almost time for me to leave she seemed shocked that I would be willing to leave without having had any physical playtime. Although my time was up she invited me for some playtime. Quite frankly I didn't know what to do. If I stuck to my "by the book" I think that I would have insulted the lady even though I really didn't want to leave her anyway. Ultimately, I couldn't stand to walk away from such a beautiful woman offering to be with me so I took her hand and she lead me away to an amazing time. When I finally left her that evening I left completely mentally and sexually satisfied. She was a fantastic lady in every way and a true professional. I did appreciate that she was sweet enough to see me beyond my allotted time and I did offer to compensate her for it (which she declined). My only thought or caution would be if the lady choses to take liberties with her time often with her clients, then some less gentlemanly clients may start to expect "off the clock" services. That would be a terrible thing to take advantage of such a good natured lady.

This is a topic very near and dear to me and one I hope you all won't mind if I ramble about for a few :) As the subject of my post suggests, I firmly believe in there being a difference between lust and love, as well as arousal and attraction. And it is VERY easy for us, as human beings, to blur the lines between the two. I speak from experience when I say that... as I have blurred them in my past. LOVE is a choice. It is something that we CHOOSE when we commit ourselves to one other person for the rest of our lives. It is born out of history, respect, unconditional admiration and acceptance. Out of knowing things about the other that no one else knows. About seeing them at their worst, their most vulnerable, and believing that is when they they look their most beautiful or most handsome; Their most attractive. It comes from complete openness, complete honesty and complete trust. With it comes a desire to be a better person - for yourself so that you can be better for THEM. It comes a complete freedom to be yourself, no matter WHAT that entails - because you know that no matter what you say, or do; no matter how grumpy you get, or how crazy or silly, at the end of the day you are welcomed into the loving arms of your CHOSEN partner. LUST is a feeling. An intense, passionate feeling. It is born from newness, from sexual desire, from excitement, anticipation, anxiousness, intimacy and arousal. It is all encompassing, it is amazing, it is FUN. The reality of this is though, lust fades. Even in a relationship with someone you plan to spend the rest of your life with (because you've made that CHOICE to do so), lust fades. This is why marriages ebb and flow, have their ups and downs, and often fail. Too many people believe that if the lust is gone, then the relationship is over. What they FAIL to see, is that if you make a CHOICE to love someone, and ride the rollercoaster through the next down, the next CLIMB is better than anything lust could ever allow you to experience. The CHOICE to love someone is a conscious choice that requires great effort, great committment and great amounts of work. The FEELING of lust is involuntary. It just happens. It is beautiful and natural and wonderful. But it just is. Let's face it: Being with someone we've CHOSEN to love, vs an SP/client that we LUST for is very different. Even the SEX is different. Sex with someone we lust for is fun, yes. It may even be intense, or passionate. It may leave you reeling, thinking about that person and longing to see them again. It envokes all kinds of strange thoughts in your mind that you are left trying to make sense of. But really, it IS just sex. It is erotic, enjoyable and wonderful -- as is the connection that precedes it. But it does nothing for the soul in the long term. On the flip side, SEX with someone you've CHOSEN to love, and have a history and committment with is the kind of sex that relaxes you and makes you feel all warm and loved inside. The kind of sex that makes you want to stay in bed all day naked. The kind of sex that can make you cry because its as much of an emotional release as it is a physical one. The kind of sex that makes you want to crawl inside them and you still wouldn't be close enough to them. NO SP or client could ever replace that very thing with someone you've CHOSEN to love. And that is why although the client/SP relationship may be good... no, GREAT experiences, nobody will ever be better, or replace the ONE person you've chosen to let in your heart. No matter how good the physical connection between SP and client, they will never replace that very same thing in your bed.

I am not going to choose one particular oon or even a couple........ Each lady writes what she thinks she likes and puts herself out there with every word. Posted via Mobile Device

I have to comment on this as I find I have a different perspective. I believe in many different varieties and depths of love. I also believe that many of our problems concerning love is the way we were brought up, the way society views it and how as a whole it's pushed as this very strict thing. By that I mean we're taught that you can only love one person (intimately and romantically) and that if you stray from this recipe you are inviting disaster and it's wrong. If we were simply to follow our hearts and feel and do it in a way that is respectful of everyone (not hurting others, pushing our love on others etc) the world would be a much different place. We have this expectation that one person needs to fulfill all our needs and that is JUST NOT POSSIBLE and more importantly, it puts unnecessary stresses on our relationships. Most people have friends to fill the gaps that a SO relationship doesn't meet but in many of these cases, you LOVE your friends. It's different than your SO sure, every relationship is but that doesn't diminish the emotions felt. Just like some of the relationships people talk about with an SP. The emotions are no less real and they are meeting a need not filled somewhere else. We should all have a commitment to ourselves to live life more fully, in the moment and happily which means having our needs met. Sometimes it's a case of can't or won't with an SO, sometimes it's just not there. Doesn't mean there still isn't love in the relationship but it's changed or is different. It's when we start putting rules on relationships that we get in trouble. For example, if you believe that if you're in intimate love with someone it should be a 24/7 you may be imposing a very negative boundary on the relationship. Why can't you be in love with someone you see occasionally? The only boundaries relationships should have are the ones agreed on by the people involved. Monogamous, poly, married, SP, it doesn't matter, they are all relationships involving people which means the basics should be the same. Communication, respect, consensual, do no harm, support etc. Sometimes it's not what we feel that's the problem, it's how we think!

I find this thread interesting and confusing. As I thought there was a difference between sp/client relationships and so relationships but after reading a lot of the posts, maybe not. For me most of my relationships will never garner 100% honesty as I'm always guarded and believe that most people have agendas, everyone wants something and I never know what a persons intentions are clients, so's or friends, even after many meetings. So in order for me to be completely honest with anyone I'd have to completely trust them and that probably will never happen, some may find that sad but I think I'm realistic and believe if you don't want someone to know something then you don't tell anyone as most will gossip and repeat secrets. The great thing I find in a client/sp relationship is the not knowing, I find it easier to be intimate/sexual with men I know little about, as it intrigues and excites me, the mystery of it all and the realization that this meeting may be the last. Now not all meetings are good or exciting as we don't always have chemistry, or attraction but that's to be expected, you can't please everyone, but is there honesty then, usually not, especially from clients as they try hard to be gentlemen and will still, lol, say they will call or see you again, or that you were wonderful or great, so honesty in that sense isn't there. As far as discretion I always give it, I would never share some ones personal details but I don't necessarily expect it. I hope for it but I don't know if I believe clients are as capable of being discreet because I think if an sp wanted to know something from a client she could get him to divulge, men think with their penises. So I don't think clients are always discreet, so anything I say or do with a client is only what I wouldn't care about being made public. For anyone that is able to find and develop any kind of a relationship weather it be client/sp or with an so I hope they cherish and nurture it as it is very special, takes time and time is irreplaceable so are great relationships:)

Great thread Old Dog. And if I may, I'll offer some ramblings. Some may reject the notions that real relationships can exist in this lifestyle either because this lifestyle is at it's core a business relationship involving the transaction of money for services, or because this lifestyle is for us a secretive lifestyle, and no one in our outside "civilian" world knows about it. I respect those holding that viewpoint although I disagree with it. Let me address the first point, that this lifestyle is at it's core a business relationship involving money for services. Yes, very true. Does that mean because of the monetary transaction a real relationship cannot exist. Not in the least. In our "civilian" world, in dating and marriage for example, how many women have been encouraged to look for a husband who has a good job and prospects. Definitely a man's income has been a factor in being considered for marriage. Does that make any marriage or other relationships (CL, bf/gf etc) less a real relationship because one's income (money) was one of the considered factors in choosing a partner. I awkwardly used this example, but Nathalie Lefebvre in another thread succinctly put it "Money does not necessarily corrupt authentic love and intimacy, rather, it's our discomfort with the idea of mixing both that causes tension". I would just add to Nathalie's quote that not only is authentic love and intimacy not necessarily corrupted by money, neither are friendships and relationships As for my second point that some reject the notion of real relationships because of the secrecy of this lifestyle. Well from my vantage point, I have for lack of a better phrase, compartmentalized parts of my life. For example, friends are one compartment, ladies in this lifestyle that are friends are another compartment, co-workers (ones I like) another compartment, co-workers (ones I'm indifferent to or dislike) another, those I share my hobby (fishing) with another compartment. What you say, RG forgot his family...far from it. They in fact unfortunately are two compartments. My mother's side and my father's side. When dad left over thirty years ago mom wants no part of him or his side of the family, and he has had no involvement with her or her side of the family...well except for my brother and me. But in spite of that split and not talking about dad to mom, and not talking about mom to dad both are real relationships to me. Only I know all people in all compartments, and which people are important to me. The fact that not everyone knows everyone doesn't diminish how real or important they are to me. And yes, there are a couple ladies who are in one of those compartments, and they are just as important to me as other people in my life And no, that doesn't mean I am in love with them and want to marry them, but it does mean I like them and consider them friends A long winded philosophical rambling RG

With each new client and the longer I'm in this the more I realize I don't follow the norm, if there is such a thing. I mean we all advertise time limits, types of services, and we all tend to follow the protocol of these or do we? As I have begun to realize that for me this is hard to do, every client I meet is different, obviously, so then are my actions and reactions. Sometimes I run over my time, sometimes I may cross some of my own boundaries, sometimes I may give more service than what was paid for, after all it is my choice isn't it? I mean if I advertise a massage and a manual release and I decide to give the guy head, isn't that my choice and okay, if I'm paid for an hour and it runs into 2 isn't that my choice and that's okay. That doesn't make me less of a professional, or does it? They are my boundaries, my rules so if I decide to cross them isn't that my right? Shouldn't each service be as individual as each client? After all I'm not in this to prove anything,to garner recos, or to impress anyone, I'm in it to have a little fun, excitement and probably many other reasons that I don't even understand, either way I am me and professional or not that's what you get:)

Great topic Cristie. I definitely don't follow the norm either. I can easily transition from the sensual romantic lady to a wild PSE tiger. I also love role playing and there are some bad boys in the world that understand a visit to Lady Katherine is the only way to correct bad habits.:biggrin: So what guest gets what and for how long? As some have mentioned our time is really important and we need to be compensated, agreed. Time, time, time, it is very important. I tend to be generous with it when the situation permits. I have my home in service but I travel extensively as well. At home things are more relaxed and I do tend to go over, I do like to talk and at the same time I don't feel pressured or that anything extra given is presumed. When I am travelling it is a little different. It has to be, as a touring lady I spend a lot getting to destination and our hotels, meals etc really ad up. So for me I need to keep on schedule and that usually means if you are visiting for a certain time frame that is the way I need to keep it. I have never felt judged for this in the least. Its also great to have the opportunity to show your appreciation once in a while by giving more. That is exactly what it is, appreciation, I don't expect anything more from my guest in the way of a tip or a gift. So at the end of the day ( for me ) it always works out as it ought to.

I often compare other industries to SP services as a way of explaining myself. I have a lady barber who when she cuts my hair, cleans up my neck, goatee and that ultra sexy ear hair etc. Some places charge extra for that she doesn't. The point is it is up to her. She may do it for a select few or all of her clients. An SP should have the right to run her business as she sees fit. It is her time and choice. As far as expectations most mature men would realize that it is not a guaranteed thing, and maybe time permitted it one time and not the next. Perhaps one client is a very respectful chap and a great tipper and she has decided to treat him that day. In my opinion, it is a great way for repeat business. Nobody likes to feel rushed, and if a little extra happened occasionally I would definitely want to re-book. I guess this was just a long winded way of saying it is the SPs choice as it is her business. To me professionalism is more about a clean environment, punctuality, great hygiene, and the ability to make a hobbyist feel at ease.

All the names mentioned here so far, I'm a fan of your ads. I want to add some names to this list: Gegefatale, Alexxxis, Georgiana sweet, Natalie Lefebvre and I can't forget Old dog for the BBM, I mean if I was a girl he would be on the top of my list just by the words he uses.

Chatter I could care less about, I can't control that and no matter what one does it goes on anyways, 2nd time expectations well that would be between me and that person, so again how we interact will be as natural and unacted as the first time, maybe with more of the same, perhaps less, or something totally different. The point of my post was to make it clear that I find it more comfortable to just be in the moment and not constrained by rules and boundaries and the ways of others. To be true to myself, that's all that matters , its my revelation.Anyone I meet will understand what happens here and now may never again happen, or it may come close or it may be completely different, however it happens it will be natural, me and in the moment. :)

The two main problems I see are expectations and chatter. Expectations are those things everyone has that can either cause great disappointment or great enjoyment. The more we limit expectations as people, the better off we will be because then whatever we get is wonderful. Every encounter with every person will be different. Even if it's with the same person, every session will be different. The only expectations that should be in place are ones of cleanliness, great service, on time appointment, safety, discretion and a monetary exchange. The rest is icing. It's when there is an expectation either based on someone/something else or even a "last time" that the trouble starts. As an SP you give a little bit extra based on whatever is happening at the moment. The client believes this is a wonderful thing and everyone is happy. If there is then an expectation next time around, both parties end up unhappy. The provider gets burned for the extra given because they wanted to and the client gets burned from thinking there should be more. It is a slippery slope because can impacts both parties equally. As an SP do you really want to NOT be able to make these decisions in your business? Do you want your ability taken away? Gentlemen, do you want to miss out on the extra gifts or attention you might receive? Do you want there to be this thread of holding back existing because of expectations? I think the answer to all these are no. Unfortunately there is no right or wrong answer because it falls on each individual to govern themselves to make each session the best it can possibly be. I believe an SP should run their business as they see fit and make decisions on their interactions based on their own factors as long as they are up front, honest and discreet about it. I also believe clients should only expect whatever was agreed upon in conversations and consider anything extra as the gift it is. If this becomes a negative, it is on the people involved to correct the situation by parting ways. I believe most of the gentlemen who are seriously involved in this industry understand what's happening and have limited expectations. Others can either learn or find ladies who better suit them. Like everything else, YMMV. This is one of those things that doesn't really have a definitive answer.

Just my personal advice is to always ask the person you are thinking of spending time with for their own definition. Some times the person you you meet up with isn't the person who you have been pre-communicating with. Sometimes that information isn't the same between the provider and agency. I find asking ahead of time helps prevent awkward times during the encounter that would kill the whole moment. As helpful as definitions are... everyone has their own, either Provider or Client.

I'm sure they exist, but I'm not into that sort of thing. I prefer to just be myself and be genuine. It's a lot easier! Posted via Mobile Device

Peachy I just think you are the dearest sweetest person . Anyone that reads your posts will know that, it resonates through them. In saying that we all have comfort levels with everything involving this business and I much like yourself prefer to interact with this community online or in person, one on one. I'm not a social person, very much a loner and make no apologies for being so :)

Again I agree, being professional can entail a lot, not specifically just keeping track of time. Most importantly being a professional means taking good care of your clients needs, respecting his privacy and discretion, representing yourself in a good light, having a clean and comfortable locale, being well dressed and groomed, having good ads, an online presence/webpage, ect, ect.But most importantly being a professional to me means you care about who you see and how they feel when they leave, its not just about making them feel good when they are with you its also important that they feel good for having met you, to me that's a sign of a professional sp:)

Following a script is way too laborious lol. Can't we just let the passion dictate the time we spend together? Now, I can act out a fantasy with ease (my mom always told me that I was a great actress after my temper tantrums lol) but isn't it more fun to act in moment? Now, that being said, I do like knowing the basic premise of our encounter prior but once we are together, lets be together!

Only time I've gotten address on first call was when they were in a hotel. So ya I think it's common to give intersection. His loss, if he can't respect you with such a small petty safety precaution, how is he in person?

I agree with the always honest MrGreen here as my encounters echo his, but would like to ad that in my opinion the true Professionals i,ve met in this business never follow a "script" so to speak and let chemistry decide the flow both good and bad. Its what keeps me going back for repeat visits ! the truly great sp,s seem to have the inate ability to know or determine what your desires are sometimes even before you do ! I have experienced more intense and fulfilling encounters with a couple of very special sp,s than i ever thought physically possible !and those experiences only improved with the incease in comfort the more times we have met and i do not share those moments verbally or otherwise ever , they are as far as i am concered unique to me.

I love discovering older threads that still have life left in them... I am a very honest and open person and am the same with my clients as with anyone. That means that if I give a compliment it's genuine. Everyone is beautiful, everyone has wonderful qualities and everyone has something sexy about them if you're willing to see it. I've said things that go against what my clients think about themselves and have had it pish poshed and that's okay. I can't change their mind about their own perceptions, only they can. I can definitely point out what I see in them though. I've heard the line "I bet you say that to all your clients" and my normal retort is "only if it's true". I won't lie to make someone feel better especially when I can be honest and get the same reaction. Every client deserves my respect and my honesty and that's what I'm giving them. If I love the feel of their skin or the look in their eyes or the way their cock feels in my mouth, I hope they know it's true. If I had to put on an act in this job, I wouldn't be in it. I love it and I can be myself.

Yes it is your right to run your business however you see fit! However, from a financial perspective-you are the one who ends up losing ;) For instance, the guy that came and got the bj for the hj price, will probably have difficulty paying for the bj price next time he sees you, and expect the very same thing again. Same goes for the man that you give 2 hours of your time for the one hour rate. But hey, if you are happy-then that is all that matters. :)

Cerb gentlemen are that exactly GENTLEMEN! They know how to treat a lady, they respect us as providers, as friends, as women!!! They are definetely in a different league from the clientele you get from other advertising sites, even thou there is still some gentlemen that have not yet discover CERB, but certainly you guys here are the BEST!

I try to live as chemical-free a life as possible, so my hygiene product use is quite minimal. However, once I learned that my armpits begin to reek a few hours after my morning shower, I started using a tea tree oil alcohol spray and it works great! It also works well for razor burn (for those few times a month I actually shave...LOL...no wonder no woman will tolerate me). Holista is the brand name, by the way; Shoppers Drug Mart has it.

It's very early, and I haven't had my required morning coffee transfusion. So this might not make sense. Christy, I think you are quite right .... In most instances there is, and indeed should be, a distinction and difference between a relationship you have with an SP and the relationship you have with an SO. That's easier to maintain depending on the nature of how you approach the interaction and what you are looking for. If you are seeking a degree of intimacy with the lady (for whatever reason), maintaining boundaries can become more difficult. It can be hard for both for the client and the lady, depending on the circumstances. And, perhaps, neither party wants to maintain those boundaries. Yes, this is the dreaded "L" word. Can you fall in love ... or at the very least, "deep like". I think you can, and I think you can even achieve that within a client-SP relationship (As RG said in his earlier post). It's really hard, and probably pretty dangerous terrain. Lot's of potential for hurt feelings, wild emotions, misunderstandings. The simplicity of the intimacy found in the "typical" (I realize no encounter is "typical") gets replaced by deep emotional connections, which sometimes are fraught. And of course, I'm talking about the situation where both parties develop feelings, not where one does and the other does not. Anyway, I think many of us are talking from a very generalized perspective. I can "imagine" this happening, rather than I'm actually living it. But as others have pointed out, it likely happens very, very rarely. And that is probably a good thing. Because I am quite positive it would be very complicated. And at one level, men probably see SPs because it isn't complicated. Porthos

There are definitely some talented writers here. And while as with most things everyone is going to have different preferences in styles, I have to give kudos to CristyCurves. If she ever writes an erotica novel, I'll be first in line!

Have to admit, I enjoy seeing the ladies come up with unique and creative ads and subject lines. A few off the top of my head are .... SaraMQ - our resident Sexual Superhero Cleo Catra - a sexy kitten who loves to purr KennidiKummings - a naughty MA, always has a funny subject line. EmilyJ - loves cock and loves to tell us about it There are so many many more, these ladies keep things interesting. Imagine how creative they are in person. :wink:

If I actually knew how to budget I would have blown it all to fuck today because I bought a new Princecraft pontoon boat today.... Jaysus Anywaysssssssss that's my hightlight :) I shall drag out the trunks and bring on the warm weather and lake time baby !!!! Looks pretty much exactly like this... Who cares to join me ? Dress code is ..... guys no speedos !! shorts and shirts please. Ladies somewhere between skimpy to nekkid is purrfect :)

Came down with a rotten cold on the eve of a big play date. I feel like crap and I think too much of the young lady in question to subject her to my cold germs. I hate canceling, hate it!!!

Without looking, I'd really like to mention some of the top creative, quirky and witty ad-writers that come to mind: Gabriella Laurence Sacha EmilyJ TiffanyXXX000 This is just my 'short-list' from memory. Don't feel offended if you weren't listed, as I have a longer list (if I were to expand). FR

I like many and I usually let the lady know that I appriciate her createive efforts. Two that come to mind right now are: Gabby Laurence she's very bright and is not afraid show it in her ad's (sapiosexual) Emily J: Emily's very simple ad's like Cock=Yum! Always catch my eye and make me smile.

I saw her a month ago and she is very good at what she does. Excellent service. She provides DFK, BBBJ, Greek pictures are accurate.

I have a whole jumble of thoughts on the subject but I'll just throw a few paragraphs down right now, and maybe return to it later when I can figure out exactly what I want to say. I agree with Old Dog that for many of us, getting the most out of the time and the relationship with an SP means seizing the opportunity to be honest and open about some pretty intimate desires. This means taking a kind of emotional risk and making ourselves at least a little vulnerable. With a good SP partner who can respond with insight and without judgement, it's an enormously healthy encounter. Each visit is a great opportunity to meet our needs for simple intimacy, explore new or familiar places on our own sexual map, or some mix of all of those things. I give the SPs I've been lucky enough to meet enormous credit for their talent in skilfully navigating the dense thickets of people's infinitely varied and sometimes tangled sexuality. That said, I agree with Boomer's reminder that this is a professional skill and talent on the SP's part, and as we know there are limitations on how deeply the participants can truly share themselves. The other thing that comes to my mind when reading OD's post is the sad flip side of the coin: the fact that our conventional relationships don't always (seldom?) afford the opportunities for intimacy and sexual expression we need. And that touches on the nature of marriages and other long-term relationships -- in which a partner's love can be conditional upon our ability to fill a role they require of us, to adopt an expected shape, and to fit inside a particular box. Sexual interests that stray outside that role can threaten the relationship, so they go unexplored, sometimes completely unmentioned. We all have an ideal image of a relationship full of vitality, with open and expressive partners who are keen to go hiking with us to every province of our personal sexual map. But... how often does that happen? How much more often do to people exhaust each other, judge or shame each other, or just lose sexual interest completely? Relationships are complicated, living things. And sometimes when they put the big-ticket, publicly expected parts of a shared life first (house! kids! career! in-laws! conspicuous consumption!), those thick roots and vines end up strangling the more delicate and intimate parts. I haven't expressed my full meaning here, but this is getting long enough as it is. More in another thread, maybe. Oh, and for the record... no, I'm not married. ;) This is less of a personal cry, and more a reflection on how adult relationships really work, rather than what we expected of them when we were kids.

Forgive me Boomer. Do you shave your armpits? If you do, well, I might agree with you. However, if you do not, your statement of "I simply never felt the need. I don't think I'm stinky and the amount of BO I have under these conditions....." Wow, this might work if you didn't take your shirt off. If the lady was not kissing you all over. However, the BO that comes off men who think they don't stink stays in the air for hours later. This is where YMMV comes into play. You might be missing out on so many opportunities because the lady just could not get past what you feel "is an appropriate amount of BO". As far as pheromones, well, we are not dogs in heat that come rushing to the first rutting dog we see. We cannot smell the actual pheromones consciously, but we can smell BO a mile away. Just my little say.

I wanted to see who's Ad's you find interesting to read and why: I will start with some of my favourite one's: SweetShay : Funny, imaginative and creative EmilyJ : Funny, Sexy and Different :), informative Michaella's Caress: Strange, Quirky, imaginative and funny,colourful Claire Heavens: Colourful, sexy pictures, and funny. MegforFun: Some different quote for each day. Katrine Canon: Very well written, detailed and sexy pictures. JessicaMassage: Seductive and always sexy pictures. There are so many more. Let's here who your favourites are and why

Just got back from a matinee of Star Trek into Darkness. Great summer flick!! Chock full of action, drama, humour, special effects, great story as well as several nods to the original series. I saw it in IMAX 3D. Mind blowing. Speaking of mind blowing, I have a new fantasy, a threesome with two beautiful young ladies who happen to have prehensile tails. Think of the possibilities.

I agree that sps run their biz the way that suits them. I do things with my sessions that gives that extra care and attention that someone paying 100plus dollars should expect and receive. I think about the only thing i would take issue with in situations is where clients expectations go to excess because they might be left with an impression that an sp who actually stays on schedule with the agreed upon and paid for time is now considered a clock watcher or worse, rushing lol I don't mean the times where sps are actually shortchanging agreed times but simply providing the agreed time. At some point that that isn't good enough, but are we now expected to provide 10 to 20% extra off the clock time in order to avoid being accused of clockwatching etc? Things I ponder over the years. :) And of course, we can't forget that when these things are provided, on a regular or infrequent basis, someone is going to put it into a review or discussion topic and the sp will be inundated with calls and appts from people who won't respect the time paid for, and they will be difficult for her to get to leave on time, or compensated for the extra time not freely given?

Sorry but that's bullshit on their part. Sounds like something more deceptive going on there. Anyone who insists that off the hop won't get an appt!

A recommendation does help. I have seen Julzie but I was very cautious because there was no recommendation on CERB. I did ask Julzie about why she had no recommendations on CERB and she explained that she could not ask for one. (And did not ask me for one) The long and the short I did have a good time meeting Julzie, she is a wonderful and beautiful woman and I have posted a recommendation: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=133568

I totally understand and agree with what you said, Peachy. Since this is your business and you are your own boss, you have the right to do whatever suits you and no one should complain including whether you charge more or less than other providers. This is a very special intimate experience. No one should expect two encounters to be the same. A lot depends on the mood and circumstances. If you decide to give a client a deal or extra time, as a client, I will not expect the same treatment or deal that I received today at the next visit. This is akin to the scenario that - when I buy a ticket to watch a hockey game and the game ends in a draw and takes two OT's to settle the score, I should not expect the same thing ( with regards to OT's) will happen at the next game even between the same two teams. In addition, I will also refrain from discussing anything or any deal that happens between me and a provider with anyone else. If I do that, I will have lost the trust we have for each other and which we both observe and respect.

I really appreciate this good discussion, Charlotte. More than guys who want to haggle over prices, arrive early, try to stay late or, after they've arrived at the meeting place, pressure us for things we hadn't agreed to do, basic hygiene is the number one thing companions complain about. The guys who refuse to shower, the ones who shower but somehow don't get cleaner, the ones who seem oblivious to fecal matter clinging to their bodies are very challenging and sometimes impossible for us to engage with as well as we want to. A little over a year ago, a prospective client scheduled a lunch meeting with me. He wanted to get to know me before booking intimate time with me. Lunch was great. He had a sparkling personality and a great sense of humour. We talked and laughed, complained about politics, moaned about the endless Vancouver rain, told stories and otherwise quickly developed a very good rapport. When we left the restaurant, he walked me to my car. I offered a hug and he happily embraced me. That's when I smelled the strong cigarette smoke clinging to his clothes. I gave him a gentle kiss on the cheek. I could taste cigarettes on his skin. I didn't want to ruin the date, so I didn't say anything. I'm particularly sensitive to cigarette smoke. Heavy smokers often don't realize that the smoke and chemicals are absorbed by their whole bodies and exude from their skin. Without being too gross about it, the aroma is particularly pungent where there are major concentrations of sweat glands--that is, under the arms and in the groin. When he contacted me the next day to arrange a meeting time, I asked him about how much he smoked. He admitted that he smoked about three to three and a half packs a day. He was bashful about it, knowing how bad this was for his health. I had to tell him that I wouldn't be able to tolerate the smoke that oozes from a heavy smoker's pores. It's not a little thing, for me. I've tried to ignore it, but I can't: I quickly feel very ill, and a simple hot shower doesn't take care of it. I was very sorry to lose what I was sure would have been a great engagement with this very charming, personable fellow. He wrote to me a couple of weeks later, asking for another chance. He said that he'd taken steps to remedy the problem and that his wife was happy with the results so far. He wanted to meet me and, if the smoke was still a problem, that would be that. No hard feelings, no harm done. We could enjoy some social time together instead. I agreed to see him a week later. In the interval, he went to his health club and had a long sauna, followed by a deep tissue massage from the club's expert male masseuse. He did that twice that week, including the day before our meeting. The difference was incredible! He still smoked. He said he was trying hard to cut back. I could still detect a bit of smoke on his jacket. He took a shower before joining me in bed and everything was fine. He's become a very good, regular client. He sees me about once a month. He's continued with the sauna-and-massage routine. He's cut back his smoking to less than a pack a day and soon expects to give it up completely. He's feeling much healthier. I'm not the reason he's cut back on smoking, but I may have contributed to it. Whatever is true, he makes his own choices about such things. But I have truly appreciated being taken seriously.

Someone who opts not to see you unless you give them the exact address up front. Calling from the nearest intersection is a pretty common request, no?

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This is one of the reasons I ask very few questions about services offered by a provider. It's a chemistry thing more than anything else for me. If I get there's the right feel going in then nature will take its course. Whether I end up with extra time or provided with a service that's not advertised then that's between us. And oddly I tend to be the clock watcher and not the other way around. Peace MG

I am one person that is always scared of smelling bad... LOL anywhere in my body.. Event thou I have been told I always smell delish... I carry in my purse deodorant, tooth brush, tooth paste, perfume and yes you all have seen me with a gum in my mouth almost 24/7... You should see my purse.. Is more like a travelling bag LOL I have to change purse every couple of month because they dont seem to be strong enough to hold all the weigth of the cleaning products I carry with me LOL In regards to the previous comment about the butt, OMG yes pleas gentleman clean them... I have encounter in 2 occations gentlemen that did not wanted to shower before the massage session... So I start my massage in the back everything seemed normal then I move down to the legs and yuk surprise! caca stock to their butt! well guess what! No bodyslied for you! buddy!!! and I am not comming close to that!!! Sorry there is not bigger torn off that a bad smell or poor hygene... and there is no Bigger TURN ON that a guy that smells good! Not necesarily over do it on the cologne but just nice clean smell..., THAT IS HOT!

It's a classic, so precise and sums it all up. Maybe this sounds a bit 'square' but those of us who have spouses or significant others in our lives, just think of the dreadful thought of losing that person for whatever reason. Not a good feeling. Maybe the sex is not as exciting as it once was but she's your soul mate. A relationship of many years. Don't mix passion and love with an SP, MA or SC. Sure there may be rare exception. Been there, done that; a wonderful fantasy world. Embrace it for what it is.

I'm not convinced that love is always a choice. Often it might be, but I'm not sure that really describes how most of us fall in love. I think the expression "falling" in love is very apt. Just as gravity is an undeniable force that makes us fall to the ground, love is an undeniable force that sometimes seems to just capture us. Inexplicably, and there is nothing you can do. Yes, I suppose you can choose to walk away, but that is a denial of the love. Not a choice to not be in love. In any event, another similarity with gravity ... love also sometimes makes you fall flat on your face!

Holy Fuck ! That is seriously gross. B.O. is one thing, having a shitty ass is another. I hold you ladies with a whole new level of respect and admiration.

It happens every time. Phone number given, rarely a reply. The weak point in us men is that we are looking for a little love. As the song goes 'looking for love in all the wrong places'. These aren't relationships, you have that home maybe, if not then work on it. Don't mix passion with love.

I prefer to see someone that I'd enjoy spending time with.....clothed. Peace MG