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What exactly are we supposed to be ashamed of here? The simple exchange of sex or companionship for money, or some other material consideration? Everybody's done that; show me a sexually active person who claims to have never been involved in the exchange of a sexual act for something in return, and I'll question their honesty, self-awareness, or both. All we do here is make the transaction more open, so that all parties know up front what's being offered on each side, which strikes me as a thoroughly good thing. The fact that society as a whole can't really cope with being open about these things is a problem with society. And we, who are simply more honest about what's going on than most, are supposed to be ashamed of ourselves? Sigh.

Unfortunately, this is not something that I am proud of, , most probably for the fact that it goes against the morals and lifestyle that my family lives by and tried to pass on to me ;) And honestly, its just not family either, I would not share this really with anyone, accept for those I meet as clients, and a few select sps too. I guess you could say it is the shame that holds me back and keeps me from publically exposing myself as an sp. I am envious at times of those who are open about it, as I imagine that the freedom that comes with this job matched with the freedom of exposing your true self and not caring what anyone else thinks aside from those who count, must be so personally rewarding. The one thing I am proud of though, is that I have remained to be my true self and not change for anyone or the money. I have always kept a level head, stuck to my restrictions, been selective of whom I spend my time with, only see clients when I feel to, and put my money to good use, which allows me to not only support me and my child, but also allows me way more time with her than if I were working shifts. I get to do and see a lot with her, and this make our relationship awesome. And that is something I am very proud of ;)

Guilt is a wasted emotion. Live. let live.

So I've been noticing lately that new members seem to be starting out here with a buttload of Rep points. now why is that? when I started out I started out with 1 little yellowish lime greeny little dot and I worked my reputation up just as I'm sure many of us have. So why do new members start out with over 10000 rep points? That's ALL the little yellowish lime greeny dots plus another green. I just don't understand how that is fair........... does anyone else know why that is?

As a hobbyist or a provider, in today's society this industry has many bad labels. I have to confess before I decided to enter this so called " immoral, dirty and unsafe" (just a few example of labels) I was on the fence. I made one of the biggest mistake someone can make I assumed that most of the stereotype were true. Over the course of my short time hobbying (about a year) I've growned to realize most of which society says about this industry is false or if there is some truth it in rare occasion. I remember my first incall I went to, I was terrified. I kept thinking it was a trap. Going to get jumped or even arrested. I just didn't know what to expect. In my head I kept thinking this is wrong. Why, probably cause society says it is. After my encounter with my First Lady I started questioning why its wrong. I mean we are both consenting adults. We take precautions for our safety. These providers are probably the cleanest ladies you can meet. Extreamly nice, ordinary regular people like me just trying to make a honest living. I say honest cause lets face it there not hurting anyone, stealing and some even pay taxes. So I don't see the problem. So I started questioning, other stuff I heard and still its all been a load of crap. They sleep with married men, well who fault is that, certainly not theirs, married men do have choices if they can't think for themselves then they shouldn't be married. Crack whores/Drug users (pardon the expression), I'm sure there may be some but I haven't meet any yet. Bottom line they are human people just like us, they're kind,compassionate,understanding. Most I've meet are smarter and more Intelectual than me, well educated. Some are aunts, sisters even mothers. So why is it society has painted them into such a bad picture? One thing I can say for sure is, as long as the woman chose this profession they have my support and respect. They've provided me with certain physical, emotional and mental needs that brought me back to a balanced stable life. I may not go out and tell people that I'm a hobbyist because many would not understand, but I'm can say for sure I'm not ashamed to be a hobbyist. So how about you? Are you ashamed to be a hobbyist or provider? I ask before answering I ask this question, what if your brother or sister or even your son or daughter provided they are of age wanted to become a hobbyist or provider, would you support them? I know I would, if you follow certain safety precautions this is just as safe as most other jobs or hobbies. Thanks for opening my eyes to a different lifestyle.

I'm not ashamed of the choices I've made or how I live my life, including seeing escorts. I love the company of women and I've met many wonderful, strong and self determined women in this industry who I would be proud to call friends. Shame, guilt or self loathing would involve behaving inconsistently with my sense of identity. You can only do that for so long without developing unhealthy emotional and pyschological problems. Having said that like most people here, I keep this choice private for all the reason cited. It would be hypocritical to say that I would be opposed to any of the women in my personal life becoming involved in the sex industry. At the same time I'm also not naive and I realize that participation in this industry involves unique physical and emotional health risks as well as safety risks. The sex industry is one of the few jobs you can enter with no training at all. I don't mean sex technique either, but rather basic health and safety training and how to handle "difficult customers". That has to be a concern to anyone who cares for those close to them because there are unique and serious risks in this industry. While the CERB community is a positive one in which men and women generally view each other as equals and women are treated respectfully, this is not representative of the industry as a whole. I would want anyone close to me to understand the range of conditions and clients in the industry and the associated risks. Having said that if they were considering joining the military or becoming a coal miner I would want them to consider the risks unique to those jobs as well! In general my experience is that most men are "good men". That observation seems to be confirmed by the comments of most of the women on this Board about their clients. I'm happy to hear that. However I've seen what men are capable of when sex is combined with inequitable authority, intimidation, physical strength and vulnerability. I've intervened to stop a rape in progress, fired men for sexual harassment and sexual assault in the workplace and been a juror in a trial involving the rape and physical assault of a sex worker. In addition, looking at some of the comments on other industry boards it's clear that many customers are mysoginists. Men like this will be clients or potential clients and that has to concern anyone who cares for the women in their lives. Hell, they could be friends, lovers or husbands and that concerns me too! As much as most of society sees the treatment of sex workers and women in general as separate issues, I see them as identical. The bottom line is that I would not "tell" anyone how to live their life. The more mature a person is the more confidence I have to have in their decisions. I would however encourage them to speak to women who have managed to be safe, healthy and successful in the industry. There's a limit to how much useful advice I could provide from the client side. What I can give is unconditional love and support and if anything more care and attention if this is their choice.

I'm not ashamed of me being a companion. I have come to terms that people in my life will either continue to love me or leave. The most important adults in my life know and they're still here and in my life and that is what counts. I have been having an inner battle with myself to tell my select group of friends that did not know what I do besides my other "vanilla" business that I run and this weekend I did when we were having a gathering at my home. Were there lots questions? Oh Yes. Concerns? Oh Yes. Do they still love me? Yes they certainly do! Being a companion allows me the freedom to do as I please, I'm the boss. I now get to take care of my Mom and put my sister through Dalhousie, where I went. There's six including me that I am financially responsible for and that is what I chose, it's not always easy but I love my family, my life and being together under my/our one roof. My family loves me. I have have family that does not know and I feel the time is almost here when I do say something, we BBQ and camp a lot together in the Summer and they can't run from me out in the wild, I have no problem answering any questions that they may have. The ones I know I'm soon to tell, knew that I was a companion in the past, so why would it matter now. I'm older and much wiser. I do wish I could be 100% open and show my face again but I have been blackmailed, slandered and harassed in the past and I fear that could happen again by those three people. Anyone that knows me as a "friend" or personal friend, knows I am a mother of two growing boys and I don't believe they are at the age where I could or should tell them. My chosen professions allows me to be the best Mama possible, volunteer at a number of places and my sons school and be a present involved parent. I love being a companion and wouldn't have it any other way. When I finally get over the fear of being blackmailed and the threats of being outted to my sons, they will be prepared the best way I possibly can but not until then. I may just come out 100% and tell the blackmailers to go suck the big one because I don't give a sweet shit anymore. With that said, I have no shame and never did. I have fears but not for me but my children. There are many wolves in sheeps clothing out there, I'm just blessed to know who they are and have developed the radar through experience to detect them. There is no room for shame in what we do, if you want to keep it private that is your right but what we do doesn't make us bad people, it's made me ever better in every aspect of my life! All my love and support to the providers and hobbyist, Lexy

Well I've been debating about including this in my other posts in this thread, but here goes, a post all on it's own. I think everyone agrees we all need companionship, intimate companionship. I know after my break up with my g/f in 2007, a real bad break up, I swore off dating and for three years I saw nobody. And yes, there was some, well a lot of emptiness in my life. And it was an emptiness that went away when I started seeing professional companions. Well fast forward to end of November 2012 when I found out dad had cancer, and depending on who I talked too, he could go anytime. I put this lifestyle on hold, haven't seen a lady since end of November 2012, and have been living with my phone with me 24/7 waiting for that inevitable call. Anyhow, while family is taking precedence, it has to, that emptiness that comes from lack of intimacy is also present. My point to all of this is intimacy is a need, a real need. Why should ladies be ashamed of providing this intimate companionship? They shouldn't Why should men be ashamed of seeking intimate companionship out? They shouldn't, it is IMHO a real need. And as has been said, the SP/Client relationship is probably the most honest intimate relationship that exists, it can amongst other things fill an emptiness in someone's life. It is mutually beneficial with no strings or drama A rambling RG

The other issues is some member use the "reputation" scale as a guide as to how much reliance can be placed on the member's post. Instantansous granting of reputation throws off this scale. Examples: Zero posts, 10,000 reputation, and managed to get suspended before even making a post: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=82759 Zero posts, acc't under review, 10,000 reputation: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=34106 Reputation not granted instantly, here is one post, new member yesterday, no reputation: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=84763 But here is some random, registerred May 6, no posts, and hasn't been online since the day he registerred, but he has 10,000 reputaiton lol. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=84212 What the heck is going on? Thanks again to Serena for raising this.

Some of my clients have children around my age. At times, the topic comes up and we discuss their futures, what they are doing, and how they are supporting themselves (financially and otherwise). When I feel particularly courageous (because it does take courage) I sometimes ask my clients if their daughters, who are around my age, were to start escorting, how they would react. Their responses are often a very stark and honest portrayal of their thoughts on this industry, and the women and men within it. At times those reactions are hard for me to hear. Like I said, I sometimes need courage but feel it's a good opportunity to make a small shift, or to remind my clients that I'm also a daughter. In fact, I'm a daughter with incredibly supportive parents who understand and appreciate what I've decided to do to support myself throughout my education. "I would never let my daughter do that", they sometimes say. Or "she has no reason to do that because I provide this and that for her". Sometimes it's simply an honest answer "I would find it really hard, and would want to convince her to do otherwise". The comfort with someone else's daughter doing it, but not your own, is a testament to work that needs to be done. It's also a broader reflection upon us, at times. Hence the courage. As RG often says, a few ramblings. Nat xox p.s. I'm really not ashamed at all. Society makes me feel like I should be ashamed but I'm smart enough to know that I'm not the problem.

This is the first thread I've seen in a long time that makes me want to post. I see nothing wrong with it. If EmilyOreo wants this type of thread, so be it. Let MOD decide if it's too raunchy. Or the steering committee. Those who don't like it, there are 100 other threads to go read.

Can this thread possibly be taken somewhere private? I know this is the BDSM section but it's still a public forum... And we're not all turned on by girls being called dirty whores and bitches.

I've often asked myself that. I'm a girl who has to talk to a guy before anything else happens (I like to get a vibe from him) but I hate when they ask me to justify what I'm doing, mostly because it goes hand in hand with "trying to save me". Lots of girls lie because they are sick of hearing how they deserve better and should be doing more with their lives. There is a good portion of guys who want to hear how much we hate our jobs and how they are doing us a favor. I don't take those guys. I love my job and anyone who wants to degrade what i do will be trouble in the back usually. Just my 2c Megan

I'm not ashamed in the slightest. WHen people ask me what I do for a living, I tell them, I'm an escort. My family knows, my friends know. When I tell someone what I do, and they think they can leer at me in response, they learn quickly that being an escort does NOT mean they can touch/grope/be inappropriate with me. I am a woman who loves what she does, and who knows that everything has it's context. As such, there ARE times when I won't say what I do, because I dont' want it to all become about me. For instance, at my sisters upcoming wedding, I will not tell people what I do. Because, unfortunately, if I did, I know there would be gossip/stares/sneers, and I would be mortified if I caused anything like that on my sisters day. Which unfortunately would happen if I was honest. Society forces me to be dishonest sometimes, but for the most part, I am welcomed and respected when I am able to be honest. My friends responded with shock, but quickly the shock turned to understanding, and in most cases, respect.

I'm not ashamed of what I do: I'm very self-protective. Some of the people who are most important to me would not understand my choices nor would they believe what I might say about my experiences in this profession. I can live with them not knowing the truth about how I make my living. I would have a very hard time dealing with their judgment and probable rejection. There is no need for them to know about my work. I'm sure there are things I don't know about them, too. If my daughter, my sister or a friend said that she wanted to become a paid companion, we would be having a lot of long talks after that! Because, no matter what some of us may say, after a decade in this business I know that the number of women who decide to become prostitutes because they've made a careful career plan is extremely tiny, like hen's teeth and clam feathers. I often hear from women who are considering joining our profession and who want some advice. I always ask them what has happened in their lives, what has brought them to the point where they're able to consider doing this. As Cat says, "little girls don't say they want to be prostitutes when they grow up." Usually, something happens and the woman finds that she has a sudden, inescapable need to make a considerable amount of money very quickly in order to avoid dire consequences like losing her children; being unable to care for an aging, ill parent; being unable to provide for herself while she deals with a serious illness like multiple sclerosis, lupus, fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, chronic fatigue syndrome and a host of others that may make ordinary work impossible; or maybe she needs to move away from an abusive spouse or partner but has essentially no job skills or time to develop them. There are many, many reasons why women become prostitutes and nearly all the time they're sad, hard ones. So, if someone I know told me she was considering becoming a paid companion, I would want to know a lot about what's really happening in her life. Maybe there's another way to get the help she needs and, if there is, I would want to ensure that it happens. You say, That's true, if the companion is actually able to do the work. The thing is, this is a terrible profession for the great majority of women who consider it and who try it for a while. In our society, even women who enjoy sex a lot and have good self-images are not usually prepared to have sex with a large number of men over a short period of time. Women are socialized to be emotional, to value intimacy in particular ways and generally to have few intimate partners. It's not easy to go from these conventional beliefs to being on intimate terms with many men you will never really know and may never see again. Add to that, if the woman is young, much of her clientele may be men old enough to be her father or grandfather, which can raise conflicting feelings and concerns for her. Most of the women who contact me are hoping that they will quickly be able to work the way I do, seeing very few clients. They're usually surprised by the amount of time, energy and hard work that it takes to build up a cadre of regulars: it can take years. In the meantime, she may need to see many, many more clients per week or month than she imagines. The urgent need to make money because of a life-crisis does not improve anyone's judgment. New companions always make mistakes. Those of us who have been working for a long time make mistakes, too, though generally different ones. But at the beginning, she has to learn how to screen clients and how to maintain her privacy and safety. Most of the time, she'll start out charging too little for her time which, unfortunately, means that she's far more likely to be preyed upon by unscrupulous clients who may be very hard on her, not treat her well, manipulate her and try to cheat her while demanding an extraordinary amount from her. This is emotionally, psychologically and physically exhausting, at best. For women who are real survivors, determined to take charge of their lives, to pull themselves out of whatever has happened to them, if they can keep their heads on straight, working in this industry can be a life-saver. Most companions don't last six months in our profession: it's not the right thing for them. The ones who do stay on usually have found a way to carve out their own niche, establish their own brand or style, and develop their business model with great care. We do well because we work damned hard. I know I put in many, many more hours on the computer and the telephone than I do in bed, even when every man I see that month is a returning guest, not a new client. Being a paid companion has been good for me. It has enhanced my self-esteem and made me much more confident in all areas of my life. I have learned things that I would not have learned any other way and developed skills and strengths I didn't know I had. I have never, ever been exploited by anyone. I was able to take a bad situation and turn it around. I wouldn't have been able to do that with an ordinary job. I've done fairly well because of a combination of luck, hard work and patience. Others will have different experiences and outcomes. Some will have more success than I have had so far. Many others will fare less well because they're simply not suited to what this work demands of them. This is all my way of saying that if a friend or family member told me that she wanted to join my profession, I would try to find other ways to deal with the crisis that has brought her to the brink of making this decision. Once someone has become one of us, I will do my utmost to help her learn what she needs to know about everything required to keep her safe and healthy.

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This is so true, and it goes back to what I said in my earlier post - society is a slave to convention. It's perfectly acceptable for a guy to go downtown, talk to a lady, buy her drinks (while spending lots of money in the process), and then get lucky... or not! lol. There are no guarantees in the civilian world, yet the hobby offers up an honest monetary exchange for a service. It's essentially the same as the millions upon millions of transactions we deal with on a daily basis. The only difference here is the type of service being offered. Throw that into the equation, and suddenly all bets are off. Go figure... Similarly, it's perfectly acceptable for a couple to spend money on one another in the course of dating, only to arrive at the same end as paid companionship. Also, since we're talking about getting screwed, don't get me started on the amount of money which changes hands in divorce court! :icon_eek:

Lets reverse that question to gain perspective shall we. Is it against the rules for SP's to post the cell numbers of clients they have met? Keep in mind that the SP may only give her cell number to established clients, etc. Long of the short it is probably best to let the SP post her own contact method.

I agree it is trivial, and has certainly been trivialize, but as someone mentioned, some people look at reputation points to judge the credit worthiness of a poster. If you haven't hardly posted and have strong reputation points, that can be misleading. Maybe they should just be turned off and eliminated all together, if they have no value.

Well a sounds like a strange highlight but it is only because it made dad happy. Dad had his 84th birthday, and had a little party with his wife and friends. He was happy because he thought he wasn't going to make it to his 84th, and the highlight of the day, first time since he told us of his cancer, and cancer aside, dad seemed happy, so that is a highlight RG

I think guys notice as they pick us, for all our glory. Weather that be for our looks, attributes, clothing, or lack of, ect, ect. But I'm sure every guy notices something different, some may notice individual details, some a whole package. Alot of how they view us may be determined by the females in their lives. I'm a glam gal, love all that goes with it, I wake up natural, live in my world natural, but if I'm going to be sexy for someone I want the whole package, nails, hair, makeup, lingerie,high heels, all these things make me feel sexier and more prepared to want to be intimate and its fun to get all "dolled" up. It is about a total package and a total package as I see it involves glam. But to each their own. I think where things become blurred for guys is in the thinking that natural is just that no makeup, uncomplicated hair, ect, as some pictures depict in magazines, but what they don't know is a lot of these so called natural "looking" girls have spent more time in hair and makeup than a lot of the glam girls. All in all it doesn't matter what someone else notices or likes as we all have to portray ourselves as we see fit and are comfortable with, guys noticing our efforts is a bonus:)

I know that you ask the gentlemen, but I just can't help but answer anything remotely close to a fashion questions. Anyone will notice a lil' glam. Whether is be a "wow" leopard print, a bright red or pink lipstick that oh so in the season and right paired accessories, I believe it gets notice. I nice look on a man gets noticed too! I'm a sucker for casual yet clean and modern look on any man. Nice dress shoes, a bright colored chemise buttoned up with dark jeans and optionally paired with a neck scarf or vest... MMMMMM... Yummies! Don't get me wrong either! A T-Shirt can go a long why too when matched with a neutral color or same color hat or shoes that gets same "I'm checking you out hard!" Both make me droll! Although.... clothes always look better on the floor! :) A mani/pedi and great hair always finish off any outfit nicely too, no matter what the sex. Guys if you haven't had a mani/pedi yet, You Gotta Try it! It's Awesome! Looking good makes you feels good! Most probably influencing they way one carries themselves when they feel good, with confidence, poise and positivity. So do the small things get noticed? Ummm... Most definitely yes!!!

I'll throw a different spin on it. All reputation points are a statistical quantifiable way showing how the CERB community thinks of you. Isn't how someone thinks of you and your contributions far more important than the statistical representation of how you are thought of (is that coming out right?) For example, and only because I know I have a few rep points LOL, really, if mine were reduced to zero (either because of a computer glitch or whatever) it wouldn't bother me, because I already know how members of the CERB community think of me (and I them), I don't need a number to indicate whether I am liked or disliked. Now if my rep point number went to zero because for whatever reason I lost respect of the community, then I would like to know, in case something in my actions/behaviour made me lose respect, and I could correct my behaviour (if that makes sense) Just a rambling RG

Ashamed? Maybe at first when I started, because of all the social lack of acceptance taboos and we all know about it! Yes I don't have to announce it with screaming voices, but if anyone is to find out, oh well you don't like me because of my work, too bad so sad! Maybe they should think about their sense of friendship,because if you accept people for what their job is and not for who they are as a person, then I don't want you as a friend! And I ve got so many new friends here who wants more! ;) xxoo

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And the old members lose ones. I remember having one and later two orange dots at the end and a few days ago they suddenly disappeared!!!!!. Funny that being here for years and 2500+ posts reviewing hundreds of SPs and close to 30,000 rep points, bringing new ideas to the board, and so much more and end up same as newbies. Not that it is at all important or even matters to me since I am not recently that active on this board but rather I am active on the other board (or maybe this was the reason) but when I saw this thread I thought I add my thoughts.

I used to be ashamed of it, but not so much anymore. After a couple of long attachments, I've come to the conclusion that I'm too nomadic to ever live with anyone again, or even maintain a relationship maybe. But I still want to give and get physical pleasure, especially with somebody I might click with. I was considered hot in my youth but I fucking hated bars and I was (and still am) totally clueless to the signals which come from women unless they grab my crotch! I was (and still am) shy too. So instead of staying home jerking off every night, I entered the hobby. Glad I did! One day when my kids grow up and my parents are gone, I won't give a shit and will tell anybody. Until then, it's under wraps (not that it would ruin my life if it got out, however). Hell, you never know, my Dad and I might finally have something in common! I've always had my suspicions. ;-) I can't be bothered to date anymore. It's just too much bullshit. Forced blah-blah-blah on a $200 date just to find out you mix like oil and water. Bullshit. Unless fate intervenes and my true love and I bump into each other half-drunk at the wine store, hobbying is and will continue to be a major part of my life. Actually, I'd like to find a woman who would love to share this hobby! LOL Well, one can always dream. Also, the financial risks involved in cohabitation (for either party, man or woman) are not worth it to me anymore. I'm lucky that I support only those I love; other people are not so lucky.

The Naked Ape by D Morris in my favorite book!

And Jazy was the well deserved winner, although she did have some stiff competition. (and some stiff observers if I may wager a guess) hehe This place has certainly turned around from what it used to be.

Absolutely not ashamed!! Love what I do and the person it has helped me become (which is awesome btw ;) ), and the ability to make other people happy too :) ! It isn't necessarily something I am completely open about with everyone I know, as a lot of folks don't/wouldn't agree or don't/wouldn't understand, but the people and friends closest to me know, understand and support it. And even if someone did happen to find out and have the kahunas say something to me, we'll I'd have a nice little earful for them :D

Bah ha ha... Me too. But usually more like "twat", etc instead of "twit". :)

There was nothing wrong with the initial post or the discussion that followed, we are after all grown ups here, aren't we ? Unfortunately the thread is going to be closed before it truly turns sour. We are all welcome to share our opinions but also understand that just because something does not appeal to you not to judge or condemn others for their thoughts or beliefs so long as it's between consenting adults. Thanks to all for sharing your thoughts on the matter.

Warning ? it is in the BDSM section no ? That should speak for it's self. Just my 2 cents like everyone else clearly it was all in fun and well within the rules of this board and most certainly the section it was posted in. Not here to argue just offering some perspective. Happy Day to all ! :)

Didn't mean to spoil the fun... But things like this would be best in a private chat room, or private group, so only people who want to be in on the fun can take part :)

This is too good to not join in on the fun :D I think EmilyOreo is out busy having every filthy little fucking hole of hers filled by random stranger's cocks, tongues, fingers and probably a few foreign objects too. She thinks she knows how to act like a slut, but the dirty girl hasn't seen anything yet. I think I should have both fucking Emilys over here so I can show them both how dirty little fucking desperate sluts like them are SUPPOSED to behave!

Hmmmm...Emily J. would definitely be an interesting sub. to play with. I know she'd shine at "cock worship".....but the whole denial aspect could be most interesting to pursue.

For me my favourite accents are from Scotland and Ireland. In my younger days, I spent a few months backpacking through Scotland and Ireland. I met a girl from Aberdeen. She was Chinese but she had been born and raised in Scotland. She had this thick Aberdeen accent. It was so crazy having this little Chinese girl taking like some highlander from Braveheart. I fell in love with every time she spoke .... plus she could drink me under the table ;-)

@leerichards2012 and I say absolutely nothing useful or intelligent on twitter either I tweet like a silly retarded bird actually .... Kind of like "Twit" instead of "Tweet" ;)

YOU are such a good girl Emily J. Taking the place of a disobedient fucking brat for her clearly overdue punishment makes me very happy. YOU deserve my attention....and my markings. But I have to admit.... taking the pain for someone else....only makes me hurt you harder. But I know you will thank me, when im finished with you. GOOD GIRL.

I agree... This thread has got some heat for sure. :cooter: If the original Emily doesn't return, I will eagerly volunteer to take her place. Miss Heavens' posts have certainly got me all hot n bothered. She seems to know what she is doing. I've been known to be very obedient. I can follow orders very well. :bowdown:

Lol at least sp are honest about screwing you, and you leave happy.

I wish I could include the link to my book, but since I'm being published next spring I can't just yet, but I am currently reading two books, one is a thousand splendid suns by Khaled Hosseini and the other is Game of Thrones...

I've been doing a lot of reflecting on my life of late. Not really about "regrets" but about what I want. The conclusion: I am truly blessed to have amazing people in my life. Friends, family, lovers. My job is one I love and I am very, very happy. I wouldn't change a thing. Makes for a great day!!! Porthos

Thank you so much for this thread. Very wise words, and it really is true. I have learnt from Cerb to reach out to others. I have always worked alone. Even if working with an agency, I still kept to myself. It wasn't that I was shy, but more that I really didn't trust others. There were too many trouble makers, shit disturbers and those out to take from you what you have. Here, however, I have made some really good friends. People that want to help, not because they want something in return, but they genuinely want to help you. I have had sp's contact me for no reason, but to say hi, if you ever need any help, I am here for you. Not that I was in crisis, but that they see that I was new, and they wanted to make sure I was welcome. When working in this industry, those that do not work in it really don't understand. They think they do, but really they don't. Here, I have found sp's and hobbyists that have brought information to my attention, that I would never have thought of myself. The perspective of another sp. Also, the perspective of another hobbyist. This alone is so valuable. I am grateful for cerb. Not specifically as an advertising site. I can get that anywhere. Even as a recommendation site, well, that helps, but in reality, even without the recommendations or the advertisements, what I get from here is a sense I have a whole country that is routing for me, is watching my back, loves me and treats me with respect. Wow, and I don't even have to pay anything for this. I have become the provider I want to be. I have been able to showcase my talents, ideas, thoughts, silly stuff and of course the serious stuff. Thank you to everyone that makes this site such a great commodity. It is my resource, my inspiration, my desire to better myself. I am blessed to be here and I thank everyone. xoxo

While you may not ask or even find justification necessary, I have encountered patrons who have been... Judgmental, at best, with regards to dancers not having anything else "going on" (be it schooling, another job, or a child). Of course, there are also those dancers who use the justification as a hustle, or simply come up with wild cover stories out of boredom because they also want some entertainment. As with most things that come out of a dancer's mouth during your time in the club, you shouldn't read too much into them. ;) Just enjoy the interaction or thank her for her time and let her move on if you can't.

Well now that you mention it.. At first last week I had 12 bars (was all the way up to the yellow) and from one day to the next I have gone down to 7 bars?? So decided to look at my rep points and they seem to not have been touched but yet to everyones eyes I did not hve the same ammount of reputation Then yesterday I am looking at this new member with only 3 post and he is half way he has like 5 bars I m like really? I have over 500 post, lots of thanks and nominated posts.. I does seem to be unfair, Its taken me lots of time, post and participation to gaiin my status and reputation.. It kinda makes ufeel cheated

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I'm not ashamed in the least. And I think the ladies I have met through this business are some of the smartest, kindest and wonderful people I know. They are people I would have been proud to know if I had met them in any under circumstance, and I'm proud to know them in this context as well. Undoubtedly, as clients, it's very important for us to think about women in this industry as having made a choice. And I think most of the women I see have made that choice, relatively freely. However, as Samantha rightly points out, one has to think about the context in which that choice was made. It's also important for us to remember that there are different aspects to sex work. On CERB, we see providers who can exercise choice. They have the resources and capacity to do so. The women who participate on this board are an amazing collection of beautiful, intelligent, thoughtful and articulate people. There are sectors of this business, however, where that choice is far harder to exercise. We need to think about that, at least occassionally. Finally, I sometimes wonder what I would do if my daughter, who is now 13, came home someday from university and told me she had taken up escorting. I think I'd take her aside, and have a long conversation with her about why, but mostly talk about how she was conducting her business. Is she safe, does she have a good incall location, how is she screening clients, etc., etc. Most importantly, I'd want to know that she had found a supportive community of other providers, who could help her and advise her. I'd also have to figure out a way to explain how I know so much about it. Porthos

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