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There are a couple ladies I see because now I consider them first and foremost friends and I do cherish our time together. But I don't remain exclusive to them, and they aren't exclusive to me, nor is there any expectation of exclusiveness on anyone's part. This lifestyle is by nature poly amorous, not monogamous. The ladies, even those who are friends, are still professional companions, and they understand that you will see other women, just as you understand (or should understand) that they will have other clients and that this is their livelihood. Jealousy really IMHO has no place in this lifestyle. If a lady expects exclusiveness on your part, is she going to reciprocate and be exclusive to you too? Likewise if you expect a lady to be exclusive to you, are you going to reciprocate and only see her Long story short, if you want exclusiveness get a girlfriend, C/L or a wife. And this lifestyle is not about exclusive relationships, it is about a poly amorous lifestyle A morning rambling RG

As Cristy said, there is no place for jealousy in this business and honestly, in life. Jealousy is a fear based emotion and one that stems from somewhere. If you find out where it starts, you can resolve it and not have it as part of you. Not easy but worth it. Having said that, we are also human and I'm sure occasionally have this feeling. You're having a bad day, there is someone you'd really like to spend sometime with because you made that connection and they make you feel good. As an SP, you can't just call them and say "hey, what about it" and you know that they could be seeing others. So instead of jealousy I'd say more a feeling of disappointment. Just as when a gentlemen is in that position and his chosen SP is busy or booked. There is always that sliver of disappointment. As roamingguy mentioned, exclusivity is a factor that should NEVER play into this industry and if it is, it needs to be seriously addressed by the one feeling it especially if one sided. Having said that, there are human connections and with those come emotions of some sort. It's which ones, how impactful they are and how we deal with them that becomes the true test.

Well lets hope there isn't jealousy. As an sp knowing our clients are going to see others is a fact of the business and to get so attached to someone that you would become jealous if they did would be silly and unproductive for either party. But some sps do fall for their clients and some clients do fall for their sps. Jealousy imo is a form of hate and if you were to care for anyone you'd want them to be happy, fulfill their needs and desires and advance in life, so if you were jealous of them none of these feelings would be met and you certainly couldn't truly care for them. I wouldn't worry as to how some of your chosen ladies react to being seen or not seen, just treat them right when you are with them. That's all we can expect from any client, to want a client all to ourselves isn't realistic or reasonable. There's an old saying if you set a bird free and it doesn't come back it wasn't yours if it does it was!

Hobbying is about not worrying about things like jealousy. There's too much jealously in the real world; hobbying is an escape from that world. If jealousy starts creeping in from either side, then something strange is happening.

Don't be fooled by men who threaten to "crucify" an SP by writing negative reviews. You don't need reviews to survive in this world. Provide honest service and they'll come back, reviews or not.

I wouldn't think the ladies (I'm generalizing here) consider themselves in competition with one another. Each lady when she advertises, has a website etc is posting about herself and her uniqueness. I haven't read one advertisement from a lady saying how she is like another lady, or better than other ladies. I know when I contact a lady for an encounter it is because there is something special and unique about her that interests me and makes me want to meet her Also, if ladies were really in competition, then they wouldn't provide references, or give out bad ones, that way they could keep a gentleman all to herself by limiting who he sees. But the ladies I see are happy to provide a reference, not only to keep other ladies safe, but they want a gentleman they have seen to have a good and happy experience seeing other ladies in this lifestyle. A rambling RG

I just finished reading the new thread on "jealousy" and while contemplating what to say I had a thought, is there such a thing as too much honesty from an SP and does that negatively impact her? Do hobbyists stay away from those who lay themselves out here on these boards or does that make them more attractive? Or is it perhaps an age of the hobbyist deal where those who are older or who have been indulging for quite awhile are looking for something different than those who have a focus of enjoying the sexual interactions? So I ask you, can you know too much and that ends up being a turn off or does it attract you? I'm not just asking about the up close and personal interactions but also the sharing an SP does in the forums.

I don't believe in brutal honesty. That involves numerous things I try to stay away from and I agree people can be rude and hurtful under the guise of "helping" or "being honest". I also believe that non full disclosure is not dishonesty as no one has the right to your information if it does not impact them in any way, shape or form. I think we have perhaps taken a rather sad turn here....

@TheLiquor I think you and I are cut from the same cloth "We enjoy variety" and we repeat with those we have a good connection with. It is a business, there is extreme intimacy, there is a strong bond, there is lust, there is love making, there is friendship and yes there is a transaction that also takes place. We are the customer/client therefore to keep matters in a professional level, there is no room or time for jealousy. IMHO And I don't believe it happens, and I have never come across it myself.

In my personal life I am jealous, unless I am part of the experience. As a Professional I am quite the opposite, I have often recommended other Ladies that I feel would give my client a great experience as well as offering duos. As it turns out 'my' clients will visit other Ladies but always come back to me telling me what a great time they had. I don't feel that I compare to anyone else to be honest. I am unique, I am not for some but there are others that do prefer me or my type. What makes us all unique is personality and the quality of service we give. As long as we all give the very best we can each and every time the guys will find us and usually come back again and again. :)

It's nice and reassuring to hear these kinds of responses. In one sense, I'll admit that I'm jealous--though that might not be quite the right word--of some of the other hobbyists who are able to enjoy these wonderful encounters more often than me. Of course I'm so grateful to each lady I have been able to meet so far, and count myself lucky that I can participate at all. I also like to think that since I only rarely am able to indulge that it makes each encounter more special and memorable. And while I think there is some truth to that, if I'm being honest with myself I know that if I were in a position to do so I'd be seeing the ladies here on a much more regular basis! Because these encounters are rare for me, I have not yet had a repeat session with the same person. Hypothetically, I'd like to think that a lady may be complimented by the fact that I had to take some time preparing for the opportunity to enjoy her company, but that's not exactly a topic I would bring up in person. This may be silly, but I don't want someone to think that I'm not calling back because I was in any way unsatisfied or ungrateful. And while I always try to express my thanks in words, I'll be much happier when I can pay my compliments in the form of a repeat encounter. Until then, it's nice to know that people are generally understanding and not jealous.

Thanks for being a dedicated cerbie. In response to your competitors comment- Yes this is a business but different and unlike any other. So to come into it with the thought of others being competitors is a start and a cause for negative emotions such as jealousy, imo. Its been said and discussed before there is no need to think of anyone as competition as we are as different and as individual as our services, Selling these differences is the key to becoming successful and popular. There is room for all. I can understand how and why some may look at others as competitors but in the end that is and will be anyone's downfall. You should want to help each other to advance and succeed, in the end that's what makes this a community and this positive interaction will make us all better in the end. :)

Disappointment is bound so happen in an industry where there is a.client that perhaps takes their business to another supplier. I would imigane that this industry is no different. Jealousy, I'm not so sure about. If I have a lady that I frequent and we hve built a connection with I can understand that if she were to discover that I had chosen to visit with another lady instead of asking her when I know she's available then she might have some disappointment. Just as I would feel some disappointment if I knew that she had a choice between two different clients for the same time slot and she chose someone else. I think that's natural and to be expected. However, if either of us decided to make an issue of it then you have a problem and are perhaps moving into the jealously realm. I always want my chosen ladies to be successful and happy, which means they need to see a number of great clients including me. Knowing that are happy makes me happy. I would hope they would feel the same way about me as a client. As an aside I personally have such wonderful relationships (small r) with some ladies that I visit with that they actually recommend other ladies that I might like based on her knowledge of my perferences. I trust her completely and really respect that they're invested in the fact that all my encounters are great tven those that are not with then.

Good morning friends. Was thinking (yes, yes I know that is a rare occurrence and probably deserves it's own thread) about when hobbyists like myself see more than one mp and/or sp. As many of you know, I LOVE OUR CERB LADIES (& GURLS) and if possible would love to experience each and everyone of you. However reality being what it is, I can't; although I can give it the good ol' college try!!!!! There are SP's I see more often, and feel a strong connection to, both physically and mentally, many of which I consider friends and confidants. This group is getting smaller and smaller in number as I relish the time together for what it brings in all manner of things, including teasing and laughter. There are MP's I see more often than others, again because of the connection we have made, the fun we have together and the comfortable feeling we have together. Both groups fulfill obvious needs. However, as someone much more educated than I said, "variety is the spice of life". I do not wish to annoy or upset either group or any of the Ladies I see, but sometimes worry that maybe I should just focus on one or two. Comments please! And again, thank you to all the Ladies of Cerb! The Liquor

I respectfully beg to differ Mr Green, at least on some of your point. yes there are many made up names and persona's and players using fake pictures. This does not mean most of the people fall into this category. Everyone has their own reasons for either putting themselves out there or keeping some things quiet but that doesn't mean what they say or what they put out there isn't honest or sharing some of themselves. This is why CERB is so great because it gives everyone the opportunity to discuss, positive and negative. The reco's are the positive, info on scam', fake pics, bait and switches and people willing to share info helps people avoid those not so honest types. I for one use my own name when i talk to people and what I share is truthful. It takes way too much time and energy to be fake and dishonest and it creates bad energy so I don't do it, it's not me. I hope you find some better people than those you have apparently run into, you're definitely in a good place for that! *muah*

I think you need to be yourself in order to succeed in this business - but that doesn't need people need to know everything about me. The 'Cleo Catra' I project is an honest portrayal of me - she's a part of me. BUT, that's not my name...and I don't tell everyone everything about me. That would be too much like dating, and I'm NOT dating my clients. My clients know as much about me as they need to know to decide if they want to see me. Once they see me, they learn more, and decide if they'd like to come back. In every encounter, we learn more about each other...what sexual buttons to push, how to draw that orgasm out, how to tease, excite, play. And in the process, we talk and learn details about each other on a personal level, which heightens the intimacy of our time together. And I love that. However, if I had a fight with my best friend right before a client shows up, I'm not going to tell him the details of that fight. I might say 'You know girls, ugh! Always silly fights', then move on to our session. If I have giant bills looming and I'm stressed about money, I'm not going to go into details of how I didn't manage my finances well this month, but might say 'Budgets dont' always work!', then move on to our session. Etc. The man is coming to me for his own escape from reality, his own fantasy, his own sexual desire. For all I know, his wife may have broken down that morning because SHE had a fight with her best friend, so he's coming to me to escape - so the last thing I want to do is lay on the details of my own personal drama. I like being part of a fantasy, of having this world where I lay my personal dramas aside for an hour or two, and escape to this sexual, sensual world between the sheets.

Imo if one would start to become jealous that must mean there is an emotional attachment somehow. It may be time to re evaluate your situation. I know personal I like to see few providers which make more of a connection but if I feel that I am getting to attached I'll step back and see someone else for a while. why get emotionally attached if you know its not going to work, chances are someone just going to get hurt.

You have said it all girl! :)

My personal experience has been that men who have Dominant positions at work typically want to set that responsibility aside and let the Provider take the lead. They have so many responsibilities at work and at home that they need to put down the reigns and just enjoy. I can almost hear the sigh of relief as my guys lay back and let me take charge lol. And yes, showing him that he is desireable and sexy and worthy of pampering is the ultimate result. Watching a man walk out with his chin up, his shoulders back and that 'smile' on his face is one of the best parts of my job. :)

I think being jealous would just serve to drive the hobbiest away as the confidence and lack of insecurity is a quality that, I believe, is a major attraction, aside from the physical and facial feature. From my experience, I haven't sensed that at all...even the opposite...friends have been suggested by Sps for me to encounter, duos are offerred and conversations are seamless in that area. Just not an issue .

This is an excellent post. I have often wondered about this topic. The CERB ladies all seem classy, fun and professional, (not to mention mouth wateringly sexy) which is why I don't browse anywhere else. Having said that, it is a business and to some extent the Sps are competitors. I would assume when one has a top notch client (respectful, clean, reliable, courteous) she would want to hold on to him. I look forward to reading the responses to this thread!

Exactly!!! :D

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I agree. This event, where Cat is concerned could have happened in another time and in another place as well, and is out of context with it being a disclosure of personal info. I think the post was more of a shot at a recent,polite, query by Nicolette on a post by Il Re

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Wise words, Mr. Monster, wise words.

I've kept it at the Shoppers, as well as the Legion's parking lot.

I wish I could go back and change my CERB name, or at least have a cool story as to why I picked it. Nippongakki is a Japanese guitar brand. So my name would be really cool if I knew anything about guitars. The actual story is much lamer. At the time I signed up last year, there was a dumb reality show called Barter Kings on the air. I'm not sure if its even on any more but the premise was that these two guys would start with something inexpensive and, through a series of trades, make their way up to something valuable. Now one of these guys had turrets syndrome and certain words would get stuck in his head and he would just scream them out at inappropriate times. One of these words was nippongakki, that he got stuck on while trying to trade for a guitar. Well the ensuing hijinx made me laugh and was still fresh in my memory a day or two later when I was "researching" some adds on EC. One particular lady mentioned that she was well reviewed on CERB. Well, not knowing what CERB was I promptly entered it into the googler and unknowingly stumbled upon my new addiction. But in order to see the review I wanted to see, I needed an account. So having just watch this episode and not putting any real thought into an account I thought I'd never use, I picked Nippongakki as my cerb handle because I think I'm funny and it amused me that particular day. Now, anytime I meet a lady from CERB I have to go through this dumb story! Maybe I should just tell them I play guitar, it would be a lot easier and way cooler!

I don't see a problem with her post. It's done in complete anonymity so nobody will know who it was. Even if it's a recommendation board, there's still "negative" threads. (turn-off, what not to do, bad experience, etc) As long as nobody is pointed (and no "subtle" hints), it helps this community and everyone present to have better experiences.

It's always a risk. I guess this comes down to the individual. Some people will understand that the fact that they got something extra once is no guarantee that it'll happen again, and that they have no right to expect it. Others, alas, won't - and in those cases there's probably going to be resentment on one side or the other. This sucks, and I'm sure it's very hard to judge in advance which camp any given person is going to fall into.

While I agree with Emily and Berlin that farts happen, they are only forgivable IF the farter owns it, APOLOGIZES for it, and laughs it off. Then it is up to the fartee to also laugh so the embarrassment can end and the fun can continue. In the cases of Cat and Cunninglingus, the big no no was not the fart itself but the failure to acknowledge the fart and hope nobody notices. If someone's nose is inches from your ass and you fart, they're gonna notice and they deserve an immediate apology. Only then can it but laughed off and forgotten!

I'd agree with you, Cristy. Especially for a first meeting, I'm more comfortable if the Lady takes the initiative. The way I see it I can't accidentally go past her boundaries, or initiate an activity or pace she might not prefer. Which isn't to say I want to stand quietly being directed step by step, just that initially any requests I make will tend to be diffidently spoken--suggestions, not orders; and I'm likely to test the waters so to speak with different activities. You can usually then tell from the Lady's reaction if it's something she enjoys or if you need to slow down or try something else. Does a light spank get a happy wiggle and a moan or...quiet. If I lightly grab your hair do you speed up or pull back. I'm more willing to take the lead with a Lady who is open and willing to share feedback about her preferences and what isn't working, what is working, and what is *really* working! I imagine I'd also be more willing to take the lead if it was an SP I'd already seen, and so have a sense of her likes and preferences. Once I feel I know the pacing, moves, and touch she prefers, taking the lead would come more naturally. There's no fear any longer of making a misstep. There is another reason though why I imagine many like it when the SP takes the initiative. It's about feeling desired. When the other person makes the first moves, takes things to another level, asks for more--it makes you feel like they want you and you excite them. It makes you feel sexy. And who, after all, doesn't like the sensation that you turn someone on?

Agree 100% :) The body is an amazing wonder, with so many things constantly going on inside us... sometimes you can't control all these functions as perfect as you wish. I think a quick "sorry!" and a laugh would be appropriate for sure. Quiffs, sneezes, farts, coughs and giggles... sex is not somehow magically exempt from these things. Our bodies are magnificent and we should not be ashamed of them in any way. :) I actually posted a video and wrote a short piece related to this subject last night on my blog. Titled, Sex is not a Fairytale, which says it all. Sex is human, raw and so very imperfect. It's not always, (or ever) like in the movies with chocolate dipped strawberries, fireworks and simultaneous orgasms. Sex is what it is. Sex is sweaty, with different smells, uncontrollable motions, funny noises, funny faces, and that's okay, and that is how I like it. :)

she also has a profile on cerb I think . This chick looks SO F-IN HOT that I am scared that she could be a scam. has anyone met her yet because I definitly want to give this sweety a try

Wages haven't kept up. I'm in the federal government which is downsizing. I'm certainly paycheck to paycheck, not rich, a working joe. To have encounters I have some added expenses those in big cities don't. I live in smalltown Ontario and have to travel to a big city (Toronto or Ottawa) which runs me $80.00 to $120.00 in gas to travel too (although gas prices fluctuate, and seems quite often the price goes up) Since I have to travel to a big city, I need to get a hotel. It's not an exaggeration, before I even factor in the ladies' donation, I'm looking at around $200.00 to $300.00 in incidental fees to embark on this lifestyle And when I get down about work, the economy, the news whatever, what keeps me up and smiling is this lifestyle, my monthly encounter, my monthly escape, most of the time a monthly memorable escape with a wonderful lady. And in the lull between encounters, I look forward to future upcoming encounters, and contacting ladies to see when they will be available and planning and scheduling new encounters with them. If you really want to see a certain lady, you will find a way. You might have to save up for a few months. And not to sound cold, but this lifestyle is a luxury and indulgence. You have to prioritize your budget, that's for sure. But I know I partake in this lifestyle on a regular monthly basis, and to boot, with disposable income, every encounter is cash only for me. No bills coming in the next month. Some long winded ramblings RG