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Tricky question! Let's see, I'm going to try each of your categories... Something personal: Spend more time reading. Something general: Blinkers on cars. They would be used. Before turning. Something small: (or at least, it should be...) "Abbreviation" wouldn't be such a long word. It's just not right people! Something big: How great if people could only live and let live? A simple aphorism, but one not commonly enough practiced.

As people have so eloquently stated these debates have been initiated in the past and NEVER do they come to an acceptable end. There is always someone that feels persecuted for their beliefs and others still feel stifled by their peers. Here are some universal truths: We are adults. We like different things. Bacon is good. (Neener neener neener vegans) Sometimes we like things, like bacon, that others find disgusting, repulsive or a manifestation of an evil soul. Others revel in its beauty, the subtlety of the delicate bouquet, or the majesty of its presence. Someone will ALWAYS be offended by what is written. Someone will ALWAYS agree wholeheartedly with what is written. Smurfs are blue, but they are imaginary. Someone will disagree with the sentence above. Shit happens and we have to deal with it. We need to have an outlet to express ourselves. CERB provides that outlet. As long as people keep their heads and don't post atrocities, illegal or hateful things or pictures of TOFU (which in and of itself is hateful and atrocious, like Lima beans, only worse) then we should be able to say, "Whatever floats your boat." We've been around for a while. We'll be around for a lot longer BUT we have to respect that we are a community of individuals. Now let's get nekkid and have sex; the envelope is on the table.

I've been lucky enough to be able to enjoy both cut and uncut cock and they are both mouth wateringly delicious. Each has their own draw. One is like a treat you have to unwrap, silky smooth, usually more sensitive. The other is a visual enjoyment before you wrap your lips around it. I think as long as men have learned to work with what they have they should all be proud. As to my ratio, probably pretty close to an even split! Yum!

I think the Gia & Gabby album is quite lovely (and very sexy!), with some very artistic shots. I like this one in particular... Those are some nice bums!!! :cooter: Yum!

I personally would pay for male companionship for all of the same reasons men (single or married) seek female companions (I know quite a few other ladies who would too and couples who want a male SP for their wives) but it is not easy to find someone who is established, trustworthy and discreet. Perhaps a small niche market but in the end, it could turn out to be a great one for the professional male SP(s).

It sounds like this topic has been debated before, but that must have been a while ago, because I do not remember it, so I assume other new members don't either. Thence, I will insert my own ideas on the subject, since I am an active participant on some of the photo threads. It also seems there is two completely different things people are talking about here. One is picture threads of mostly public models (Nice Bums, Redheads, Beautiful Lingerie, I Love Boobies, etc). And the second is specific SP service recommendations. (Best BJ, etc). As someone who appreciates beauty in others, I very much enjoy the picture threads. I have contributed to them, and I enjoy looking at beautiful pictures of lovely women. If you look through them, there is a wide variety of pictures posted, and I even notice that some members go out of their way to post unique pictures that aren't you're daily run of the mill "model type". Some larger women, different ethnicities, average housewives, and all sorts of others etc. I encourage others to also contribute more unique and different pictures. Those photo threads can be used to our advantage too. The new Hot Guys thread is a good comparison. Which members do we like better... the ones who participate, have fun with it, and can appreciate a handsome man... (or even just ignore it, if they don't care for looking at dudes)... or the ones who sit back with their arms crossed, feeling ugly and fat, and text me commenting how I shouldn't make my clients feel inadequate by posting good looking men? Aww poor baby. I'll take the first, thanks. Second, CERB's entire existence is based on recommendations of women who are selling themselves. It's not just some random social networking site. If you decide to put yourself out there, then accept that people are judging you and comparing you to other ladies. It doesn't mean that one is necessarily better than the other, but it IS a marketplace. And most of the things that people judge us on, actually are within our control anyways. When you put yourself in the public eye (and yes, this is public), there are certain things that should be expected, IMO. Considering that there are many places on the internet with rampant negativity, I don't see how recognizing people for their beauty and talents could ever be a bad thing. There are several legit reasons why someone might not be on a random "Best BJ's" list. Maybe they are low-volume or just low-key in general, or they don't openly advertise BBBJ. It's possible that their BJ is just not that memorable. But maybe they are a fucking amazing kisser with the most beautiful softest skin and most hilarious jokes and sense of humour. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. I might be listed on a "Best BJ's" thread, but I will never in a million years be mentioned on a "Best Abs" thread. I'm okay with that. My ex-bf used to nit pick everything I said about other people. Just for an example... One day I'd point out that a friend of ours had a really nice shirt on. My BF would say, "What, you don't like MY shirt choice?". WTF. It drove me crazy, and I found it to show both his insecurities and jealousy. Just because I pointed out positive things about other people, didn't mean he was any less. As for the semantics, I agree that sometimes a few words here and there can indeed make a big difference. But I find it a bit silly that one would be satisfied if the title was "Recommendations for Great Oral" instead of "Best BJ". Men are simple. And that's how I like them. Makes my job easier. :) For the record, I do think cristy had only good intentions in starting this thread.

I will bring an awesome selection of bikinis so that the ladies can give a fashion show. For food. I make a wicked pasta salad with an Italian twist. For drinks, my secret Bloody Caesars. And as boxer/tighty whitey remover, a killer shooter which is also top secret!

Was in Thursday aft briefly. No Sara or Ariel, but Jenny was there and looking great as usual...unfortunately I had no time for the CR with her. Quite a few new to me faces there that day too. Although she wasn't there either, I have been wondering if anyone has been to the CR with Courtney? Cute blonde, her face reminds me of the LPGA golfer Brittany Lincicome.

Thanks for your sympathies Gabriella. I've, of course, gotten over that experience, I actually took a valuable lesson away from that appointment in particular, so at least it wasn't a total loss. For the sake of clarity, the lady in question was an established touring lady who used to work at a reputable agency and had recommendations from her travels overseas. I couldn't find anything on CERB, but I knew she just started touring Canada and her previous market has its own board (which is part of the lessons I've learned, fully investigate every potential meeting). I later found out that others had experienced similar things with her, but due to CERB's no negative reviews policy (not questioning or complaining, merely stating the fact) were not allowed to share their warnings. If I could summarize my thoughts on the subject I'd say the following: As a hobbyist you don't always get what you pay for. Sometimes you get more, sometimes you get less. In order to assure that any potential appointment goes well its the hobbyist's responsibility to thoroughly investigate the lady and to properly prepare for the meeting (shower, shave, brush, scrub, etc etc). And even when you've done all of this, just because one lady charges more than the other, it doesn't mean that the more expensive lady will provide the better service. Unfortunately you can't know how the encounter will unfold until its started unfolding. There are so many factors that come in to play when it comes to having a great encounter and no one can control all of them. You do everything you can and hope the things you can't control fall into place. The only consideration a ladies' price should take in your mind is whether or not you can afford that price. Don't base your expectations regarding service on the price you're paying, as you might be disappointed. Instead, base your expectations on the investigation you just performed and your interactions (emails, phone calls, text messages, etc) with the lady in question. I've gotten less for more and more for less as a hobbyist. And while I understand the compulsion of some ladies to try and integrate the "get what you pay for" mentality into the mind of hobbyists, I think that at its core it is misleading and want to share my experiences to let others know that they don't always HAVE to pay 300 an hour for a good experience.

This is seduction of the Highest Order Lay down Relax, and let Carnal emotions take over Inhale deeply and put your mind at ease Allow me to lead you into never ending ecstasy Placing my lips to yours I dare you to explore what's behind your mind's locked doors Mesmerizing you with my Soft Kisses Bewitching you with my touch I have you right where I want you After this is over Memories of me will Haunt you Biting softly on your neck I release your inhibitions Your Dying to be with me Pleading to be tempted How can I be Resisted After all this is Seduction of the Highest Order..... Contact me by PM, text me at 613-277-4328 , or call the Spa at 613-274-7073 to Ensure My Availability! Check out what others are saying about my service!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111731 Schedule June 1st: 10:00am - 9:00pm 65 Bentley Ave. 613-274-7073 June 4th: 3:30pm - 11:00pm 65 Bentley Ave. 613-274-7073 June 6th: 3:30pm - 11:00pm 65 Bentley Ave. 613-274-7073 Sexuality is not a Leisure or Part-time Activity It is a way of Being -Alexander Lowen

You are new to this experience and it is perfectly normal to feel a bit nervous around any new encounter. This will probably not go away completely even though, over time, you've become a seasoned pro. If you should one day not feel a little anxious, don't delay - take your pulse to see if you're still alive! Hygiene, being well-groomed and dressed, courteous, showing the lady respect, BEING YOURSELF, and getting the business aspect out of the way very early - all these things -- and many others -- can't be stressed enough but have been already beaten to death on various forums here, so look around if you need to. You've most likely done your research on what is available and you contacted this particular one lady because of what she offers, and you are intrigued by her appearance, or because her personality shows through in her ads, her website, or postings and forum interactions. In her communication with you, you have come away with a sense that you will have a good connection once you meet in person. DO try to relax at the start, and DON'T worry about details of the encounter. Be open and honest about how you feel, and just TRUST that she is an expert at making you feel at ease and taking great care of you. Show her all the confidence you can muster up and DON'T be creepy, macho, or over-bearing, but instead be courteous, appreciative of the wonderful gift of the special moments of intimacy that she is sharing with you. BEST for a first encounter is if you let her take control, but if you have specific requests, ALWAYS be respectful in expressing them. And as always, giving her sincere compliments on things you admire and enjoy about her won't go unnoticed. She will likely appreciate you more for these things and that can and likely WILL mean you'll have an even more amazing encounter. All the best to you and any newbies who may come across this post in the months to come. FR

Thank you both very much. As I've said elsewhere, I appreciate how welcoming this whole community is, and it's been a pleasure to participate. Still, I'm especially touched by your words (and gods know, I like being touched!) :)

From what I have read, seen, heard etc. I think the bottom line here rolls back to the societal norms that we all had growing up, especially in Canada. Ladies were taught to control their sexual appetites and to be there for their spouse. There was this stigma of "you shouldn't enjoy sex and you shouldn't ask for it or for what you want". This has changed a lot in recent years but I have seen it in action. Women who want sex would rather go trolling the internet for a random hook up or meet someone at a bar than pay for it. The problem is how many times to you end up with a dud compared to a stud and then regret things in the morning. How often is one truly satisfied when this is how we get sex? I think of some of the stories posted here about our own wonderful Il Re and the one that sticks in my mind is the one Emily J wrote. Here is an amazing woman who was on edge sexually and needed some relief. She more than got it. She gives to others and their pleasure is her enjoyment. Just like Il Re, a ladies pleasure is his goal. I think so many ladies are missing out on wonderful pleasure all because they have been taught they are women, it's easy for them to find someone to have sex with or to be a companion and while this is true, how often is it satisfying? I believe there are many women out there who would love to be pampered, taken care of and given a wonderful and satisfying sexual release. I think what we see in this country is so many overworked, stressed, multi-tasking tired women who when put in a position of being able to have it all, just want to relax and enjoy the sensation of hands pampering them for a little while and easing their tension. Most of the time, I doubt sex even comes into their mind because it just feels to good and they're not wasting a moment of bliss for something they can easily get (sex). There's the rub, we can easily have sex and companionship but how easily can we get a full body rub, help with things or a chance to be pampered? THOSE things we pay for which is why spas are so popular. If there was a shift, not only in thinking but in living, where women were more satisfied with life in general and less stressed and the focus became more on satisfying our desires than craving an opportunity to just "feel good", I think there would be a large market for straight male escorts. Until then, it is a small niche and ladies flock to spas.

I've had cats, hamster, fish, ferrets, wife and dogs. I don't think there was a time in my life I did not have a pet. Currently I have 3 dogs. 2 mini dachshund and one standard. My eldest is currently 6 and I loved her from the first day I saw her at the pet shop. She is my little miracle dog. When I first got her, she seemed fine but a few days later she wasn't eating and barely playing which was unusual for a puppy. So I brought her to the vet and it turned out she had parbo which is usually fatal in puppy hence that why they get vaccinated against it. According to the owner of the store she had her first shot but had no proof since the document she tried to pass off was clearly for a different dog. The owner of the pet store refused to reimburse any of the thousands of dollars spent on her. She wanted me to return the sick dying dog who would not last another day and she would give me a different dog. I was already in love with this one and beside why would I want to leave it die? I had to take the chance and I'm glad I did cause she survived. Worth every penny spent for the joy she brings me. Never did I buy another pet from a store. My to other I got from different breeders. My second one I got cause I felt bad when she alone so why not get her a friend. Then recently got my third and its so funny to watch them chase each other. Losing a pet is so hard and to be honest when one dies not to long after I end up getting another which helps me with coping the lost one. Although I miss them from time to time, but I try to remember how happy they were and how spoiled they where and I'm glad I was able to provide the best home I could for them.

If I could change anything it would be how humans treat other species, I would also want to change animal cruelty laws, make them harsher so people could be prosecuted for committing such offences much easier. and I would like to change my intelligence level, I wish I were smart enough to cure cancer so I could wipe out that bastard!

Something: That rape doesn't exist. If we're talking only something personal: To get a girlfriend.

I feel like there's a bit of a contradiction in those two paragraphs, Jack. I don't know that I agree with Cristy myself, not completely anyway, but isn't your assumption of why anyone would agree itself dismissive? Myself, I think various viewpoints have been well presented here. And while I'm not sure just where I stand, I can see the intent of each. I would agree Emily J's post a few back makes some good points, especially the inherent difference between those threads that are collections of photos from across the web showcasing individual likes (I've certainly participated in several of those), and threads that inherently are comparing sex acts of Cerb ladies. I don't want to argue that either are right or wrong--plenty has been said already each way. What I do want to suggest is that surely everyone can at least recognize that one of those thread types is at least more...complex...than the other. I mean, I've been one of the fellows that think the "hot guys" thread the ladies started is as innocent fun as the rest, and I've had some fun joining in. And though I wouldn't personally be offended if someone started a "which client gives the best DATY in Nova Scotia" thread, I would view it differently. It's easier said than done to simply ignore such threads--I certainly know I couldn't help but look...wondering if I'd be named...maybe a little anxious if I wasn't, worried why. What if it started seeming like everyone was named but me? Now truthfully, I'd probably actually find such a thread intriguing, but I can at least try to have some empathy for the other view. Anyway, I've rambled too long. Let me end by suggesting that perhaps everyone could at least agree that those who post "best of" threads don't intend any offense (indeed, probably quite the opposite!), but also that the feelings of those who find them off-putting are valid also. Now, I'm off go stick my nose in a less tricky issue, like peace in the Middle East.

I don't know how many times threads went sour because someone used the wrong word or the politically incorrect word/expression for something. In this case, I think people are putting way too much emphasis on the word "best" and are forgetting to enjoy the pictures for what they are... Beautiful pictures of women with some featuring different sexy assets. Some of us have made suggestions in the past about renaming the "best bums on the planet" thread to alleviate some of the negativity and frustration expressed by some members but at the end of the day, no matter what the thread is called (while respecting the rules), members will still be posting the same kind of pictures in that thread... Beautiful sexy bums they personally appreciate. I have posted in the bum thread on more than one occasion and I have no regrets. I love beautiful women and yes, the cliché is true: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think my sexy buns were ever mentioned in that thread but hey, I'm confident enough to know I have a nice round spankable bum and it doesn't need to be posted in that thread to make me feel better or reinforce what I already know ;) I take no offense to it and simply enjoy the sexy pictures that are being posted (although I haven't visited that thread or others in a long time) without focusing on the thread title. Life is too short to start nitpicking at everything!

Call me old school but I read with some humour the contents of this thread, and would like to chime in, hopefully, in a meaningful way.Never have I had a bad experience with a cerb provider, they have varied in intensity of course, but I operate from the premise of respect. I show respect, conduct myself as a person not as a walking penis. I have found that attempting to determine what your companion enjoys, by email or by trial and error works wonders! Let her know that her enjoyment is important to you. I have seen that providing pleasure and orgasms to her, heightens the intensity and " what you give comes back to you". Little things , common good manners, a thank you card, a flower(s), lingerie, if the provider indicates a fondness for gift cards on her site, then why not.? just some "old school " musings from a mature hobbyist

Nicolette Vaughn One of my favorites...a definite "hands on" approach to things ;)

I love all penises, all shapes, all sizes but if I had to chose I'd chose circumcised. I like the look better and just feel its cleaner, no lectures please, its just my opinion:)

Sometimes you're lucky enough to meet someone with a mind to match the frolic. I've enjoyed your tantalizing posts and your thoughtful and honest additions to many threads. A new social group, lots of support for everyone on this board and inspiring me on more than one occasion. Thank you for what you give....I will definitely take (and beg for) more!!!

When visiting a provider especially if she lives in a nice neighborhood in a house, please follow her instructions on where to park. Especially when she asks you to park in her laneway. If you are attempting to play secret agent to be extra careful and park further away and walk up thinking no one else will notice this, you could be wrong. As many neighborhoods have some sort of neighborhood watch in effect, this can work against a client. When an SP asks you to park in her laneway, she is requesting this for a reason. It is best when you know where you're going to fit in and play the part. Park in the laneway so when you leave, you can get into your car right away. Maybe even bring briefcase or folder to make things look legit. Many people work from home nowadays and parking in the laneway looks like you fit in and are not considered suspicious. The best way to be discrete is to be out there in the open so you look like you belong there. Thank-you for your consideration. :)

Ohhh My gosh! Thanks so very much, I am so flattered:)

Circumcised penises are the best:)

Congratulations on your interview Sophia. Candid indeed, and I felt you were very "zen" about what you do. Like Roger and Ebert, I give it two thumbs up. You guys in Freddy are lucky to have such a beautiful massage attendant in your neck of the woods.

Sorry to hear that. When I read about experiences like these it always makes me wonder if the lady was established and reputable or brand new to the industry (or less than a year) as I do not know any reputable ladies who would conduct their business that way. Most of us who have been around for a while understand the value of offering a great experience (whenever possible-YYMV-hygiene, ect.) and the value of repeat business. "You get what you pay for" is true in more than one way.

That gaze... I feel like this might be a repost but doubt anyone will mind... Yeah, I'd spend my day staring at them too...

Hello Gentlemen, My name is Sasha I'm a young, fit MA with amazing massage skills that will make every part of your body tingle ;)... I'm 5"4, 120 lbs, perky b34, long black hair, tanned, cute round booty, juicy lips, hazel bedroom eyes, and very fun and comfortable to be with. I work at an upscale spa in west end Ottawa they have amazing customer service, the rooms include fresh linens and towels, hypoallergenic oils with avocado, and apricot extracts to make your skin silky smooth, relaxing music, large mirrors, black lights to set the mood, and ceramic stand up showers for you and I... We also have a large hot tub room for a more intimate session... Schedule: Today: 9am-9pm Sunday: 10am-4pm. To get the massage you've been waiting for call or text 6132192358 Yours Always, Sasha xoxo

Cristy, I think you may have taken my post a little too personally and at the same time, taken my "nitpicking" comment out of context (it was a reflection on everything I wrote as a whole). My comments weren't directed at you nor was I insinuating anything. I think if you take the time to re-read what I wrote previously, you'll understand what I mean.

Broadways usually has some younger girls and lots to choose from,

Let's get this weekend started! I've got my departure date set for leaving Ottawa.. the countdown is on and I won't be around much longer!!! Come see me before I leave and let's make some memories!! I'm a model tall 5'10, a curvy woman's body that's got the perfect shape you've been looking for! I've got bright green eyes that will put you in a daze and a smile that'll melt you inside. A bubbly, sweet and perky personality that'll get you smiling and feeling amazing! Call to book an appointment at 613-274-7073 and come in for an amazing sensual massage, slippery body slides and an ending you won't soon forget't soon forget! I'm working today until 4pm @ 1902 Robertson Rd xoxox

hmmmm such a huge question with so many answers.... I would have tolerance and being non judgmental as "normal" behavior and would throw political correctness somewhere non flammable and burn it to the ground. I would love to see the view where cell phones are additions to life not life itself. More personal conversations with REAL words! I would have transporter technology. The earth should really be a small place and able to be sampled by everyone. Plus we should be able to see anyone we want at anytime we feel like. I would take politics and greed out of so many arenas. One example, hunger. For the amount of food we have, throw away, and use as a bargaining chip, there really should be no need. If $30/month can feed a village then why is there even hunger if they are raising millions of dollars? Solve the problems, get rid of the BS in the middle. Cancer is another. If there really IS a cure, the people should be more important than pharmaceutical companies. And since this was all so serious....I think that whenever anyone is feeling down, KC & the Sunshine band should be put on so everyone can "Do a Little Dance, Make a Little Love" :bddog:

Excellent analysis Midnite.....I'd say you are "bang" on!

I have known two straight male escorts. They certainly had everything that would fit the bill: they were good looking; highly educated; able to talk to anyone about anything, anytime; they had impeccable manners; and they were adept at fading into the background at the drop of a cocktail napkin. A fine wardrobe of beautifully-tailored suits completed the package. The one I knew in Toronto was having a very hard time earning much of anything despite his strong resemblance to Pierce Brosnan. He said he had occasional dates with middle-aged and older women who needed a companion for an evening, usually for a public event or a party. He might earn $100-200 for four or five hours. He contacted me because he was hoping I might have some ideas or that I might need a companion of my own occasionally. I had very few suggestions and no need of company, though. About four years ago, I had a meeting with a man here in Vancouver who was also looking for a way to improve his business. A little bit more rugged looking than the fellow in Toronto, he was very attractive in addition to being a world-class skier. I think he would surely have been able to make a part-time income, but he was having little success. Like the man in Toronto, he said he might have a date every 4-6 weeks for an evening including dinner, an opening or other event and, as he put it, "tucking the lady into bed" later. I ran into him at a charity event one evening. He looked fantastic and was as charming and debonair as humanly possible. For essentially the same evening--drinks, dinner, the charity program and some private time--he earned $250; I earned $1500. He finally gave up on escorting and became a ski instructor for middle-aged people who'd never learned to ski before. If there are women interested in straight male escorts, where do they find out about them? What other kinds of supports are there for the idea that this might be something they should consider? For example, if women's magazines were to occasionally mention this option or feature it as a focus article, that might make a difference, but those publications tend to be very conventional in their attitudes and approach. I know almost nothing about gay male escorts, but my impression is that even they have a hard time making a living in our profession. Some are more successful with sugar daddy arrangements than with conventional advertising and agencies, but I think it would be rare for many of them to earn anything comparable to many female escorts' income.

This is seduction of the Highest Order Lay down Relax, and let Carnal emotions take over Inhale deeply and put your mind at ease Allow me to lead you into never ending ecstasy Placing my lips to yours I dare you to explore what's behind your mind's locked doors Mesmerizing you with my Soft Kisses Bewitching you with my touch I have you right where I want you After this is over Memories of me will Haunt you Biting softly on your neck I release your inhibitions Your Dying to be with me Pleading to be tempted How can I be Resisted After all this is Seduction of the Highest Order..... Contact me by PM, text me at 613-277-4328 , or call the Spa at 613-274-7073 to Ensure My Availability! Check out what others are saying about my service!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111731 Schedule June 1st: 10:00am - 9:00pm 65 Bentley Ave. 613-274-7073 June 4th: 3:30pm - 11:00pm 65 Bentley Ave. 613-274-7073 June 6th: 3:30pm - 11:00pm 65 Bentley Ave. 613-274-7073 Sexuality is not a Leisure or Part-time Activity It is a way of Being -Alexander Lowen

wow.. I missed this thread first time around.. my first impulse from the title was to make a joke about 'Who's Frank. And why discuss him?" but I loved it. I just read a column by a pornstar acquaintance of mine Kurt Lockwood.. and 'frankly' I like your writing better! Good job and thanks for sharing :) btw.. my first few experiences with being licked weren't properly appreciated by me..I had no idea what was happening or how to express what I liked. I certainly do now. The vagina and all it's parts are confusing and mysterious to the best of us. I'm still amazed 'frankly' when I make another woman cum. Mind you I have way less experience with another woman's parts than I do men.. but It's awesome :) I once wrote a 'pussy chewers rant' on my blog... and my friends found it a hoot. but the guys who think it's a good think to suck the life out of a clit! aieee!!! not fun for me. Gentle is always a great way to start.. heck you can rev it up later as you go.. and don't be in a hurry. I've had a few clients tell me that I've taught them to lick a pussy.. but I always say to them. I've taught you how I like it.. I can't speak for all women. Each one is different.. but for me you've hit the nail on the head in describing how to do it. Kudos to you sir :)

The sun has come back to Vancouver . . . but we're trying not to make a big fuss about it. The sun is very shy and when overwhelmed with praise it tends to run away and hide.

Respectfully Meaghan I disagree on both counts (sort of). When it comes to hobbying the old adage "You get what you pay for" very much does not apply. My two worst experiences in my short lived hobbying career were with ladies in the 250-300$ range. On the other hand, some of my top experiences were at the 160-180$ range. Some ladies charge over 250$ (taking a number at random here) because they believe that they won't be taken seriously if they don't (I've also heard of them being contacted by their competition being pressured to raise their prices, but that's a whole other conversation), others just think they can get away with charging that because they're attractive and while advertising GFE services to get the guys in, they will offer as little as possible and get the client out ASAP. I understand your comment was meant as "You have the choice to see the lady or not", but it made me think of the availability of choices here in NB and Moncton especially. Since we have such a terrible reputation there are few ladies who are willing to visit and the ones who do don't often return. That's no ones fault but the hobbyists who are disrespectful and not serious about keeping appointments, but we all suffer. In the end it severely limits our available choices, mostly to the BP (and other) ladies. As I stated earlier, just because they come from those sources doesn't automatically mean that they are inferior to a lady from CERB, it just means that as clients we need to be wary. Another thing to take into consideration is taste/preference, what if the available CERB ladies in my area don't offer the services I want? What if I don't find them attractive? What if the CERB lady doesn't answer your messages/emails/etc (happened to me, and I had even seen her a few times before and we got along great, or so I thought)? Of course, as a customer, you're going to look elsewhere for a lady that does offer the services you like and whom you do find attractive. If CERB doesn't have it, can the hobbyist really be blamed for looking elsewhere? No doubt that I'll catch hell for questioning the logic of "If on CERB then automatically fantastic", but I'll have you note that a lot of some of the more popular CERB ladies started out in this business not knowing about CERB and only came to know about it through a CERB member who took a chance on a girl from an ad :). Food for thought.

Hey Stevey, Thanks for your contribution to the conversation. Personally I don't mind discussing ladies who aren't on CERB. Just because they haven't found themselves here yet or choose not to advertise here doesn't mean that they're innately bad SPs or bad people. One correction I'd like to bring though, even if a lady doesn't advertise on CERB you can still post a reco on her. As far as I understand CERB is a community resource and its use shouldn't be limited to only those who choose to advertise here. Thanks!

Actually you can now view it on my site. It is also found on atlanitic holistic directory site. This is so candid, there are parts that are serious, but then it had a funny side too! I laughed so hard sometimes, me and my girls had a bast watching it! Of course being candid with no breaks or editing, I did stumble a few times, lol.. The cool part is, it got us girls talking, cause everyone in the industry can relate to what we discuss:) Also other viewers that are not involved with our lifestyle, said that they had no idea and that they have a positive outlook now. Whereas, before they followed the normal outlook. So for me, I think that is a success, and I did what I set out to do! Hope you all like it:) You may need to create account to get access to the documentary. Is found under video selection. mssophiav.ca

Next thing Ya know People will be asking to remove the recommendation section on CERB to avoid hurt feelings..... I understand the point- but its all judgement- we ALL judge and Compare and Market and have views and opinions and they can Clash...But...I wouldnt let this bother you so much- its not worth your effort or energy is it? It does not affect your position in the industry or change the ways of life on a day to day basis. Again- I say- Live and Let Live. ;)

I love animals. Dogs, cats, birds, chickens, fish. The most I have ever had at one time was 19 dogs and cats. A bit much, so I make sure I limit the total number of animals at one time to a reasonable amount. I also run a cat rescue and spay/neuter and home stray cats. So far, I have taken care of 20 cats this year and working on the next 20. Right now I have 1 dog, 3 cats, and 2 foster cats at home. I have owned Great Pyrenees (saved me from a cougar), Rotweillers (they are my most favorite - keeps the bears away), my purebred TerryWawaSzuOOdle (terrier, chiuawa, shz zu, poodle). Lots of cats over the years. And fish. And of course the famous chickens. Layers and Meat kings. I still have a scar from those bloody bastard meat kings. Nastiest birds on the planet. Did you know that the hens will hide the roosters when it comes to slaughter time? Those roosters are the pansiest out there, hiding behind their ladies. I loved the layers though, really sweet birds. Here is a link to a thread I started about animals in our lives. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=132680 xoxo [/url]

From my PoV, all I can say is... have you sucked on a piece of rubber lately? Was it simply delicious? Ya, didn't think so. I enjoy giving head, immensely. BBBJ that is. CBJ, not so much... I wanna barf every time I taste a condom, and let's be honest those flavored ones are even more repulsive.

Here's one another lady told me from a guy who contacted her from another site." Umm, I just need 5 minutes of your time, how's $40? What next? Pay by the minute? LOL. The problem with that other site is there are certain things you are not allowed to state in your ad mainly rates except for hourly rates.. So there are a lot of tire kickers ( you will find 1 or 2 out of 10 guys who become gem clients) or those who attempt to make up different types of sessions according to what THEY want ( i.e. the 5 minute $40-50 session) and one girl will do it and these guys assume that because one did it, that she now has set the bar for the entire SP industry and we will all succumb to it. And then there was a text going around from a U.S. area code that a lot of ladies received from a guy who wanted a bj before payday and that he would give them the money in a few days. Seriously, this industry is getting stranger by the minute aside from the 15 minute appts. If more ladies stuck to their guns and charged their rates by time instead of an "act" none of these shennanigans would be happening. We are escorts and throughout the years we have been known to charge for our time. Both parties know what is going to happen without having to explicitly state it. Now if you don't do this or that, you're tossed to the side because you don't offer all the PSE activities and if you can't stand on your head, well damnit, you're SOL and you won't last according to these guys who think they can have it all including a second round in 15 minutes. It's actually quite amusing. I'll stick to my minimum of a half hour thank-you very much. I'm not a drive thru express lane. ;)

Here are a few more: Floss and brush your teeth and use mouthwash beforehand Make sure you are freshly showered and have soaped your armpits and genital areas several times. If you are uncircumsized, please pull back the skin on your penis and rinse that area really well. Take care of the money issue immediately without speaking any words so as to avoid doing anything illegal (communicating publicy for the purpose of prostitution) Verbally tell the SP what you like as we are with such a different range of different men that it is hard to guess what you like. One man may like his nipples sucked on while another man may hate that sensation. Be verbal. This will allow us to do everything right and make the most of our time together.