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5 pointsI would certainly not be offended by it and I always want my gentleman to do what makes him comfortable and not have to worry about anything during our time together. If that means taking his wallet to the bathroom with him or leaving it in the car, so be it ;) On the other hand, before trust is present, and to protect myself, I would rather my guest takes his wallet to the bathroom with him (or not bring it) just in case he thinks something has gone missing... This way, there is no possibility it went missing when he was with me.
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5 pointsYou have every right to take your own property with you to the bathroom. If this offends someone, maybe find someone who offends far less easily?
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4 pointsHi this is my 1000th post. Took a long time to get here. First 500 took forever, the last 500 seem to fly back. Just wanted to say thank you all the members that I have chatted with in the chat room over the year. And a big thank you to all the women that I've had the pleasure of meeting and new friendships that I have made. I hope to meet more new faces in the future. Hope to chat with you in the chat room. Stop by there and say Hi :) I've tried to start threads that are fun and informative. Some threads took off :) and some thread's didn't :(. Some threads went a totally different track for some reason. However I had fun starting them and reading your responses. It's hard to come up some new and interesting topics to discuss. Just wanted to thank people for responding to my threads and hope that I can finding new topics to talk about for the next 1000.
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4 pointsIt is VERY common on either side that when emotions become involved, the person with the emotions steps back to provide some breathing room to give clarity to what they're feeling. Unfortunately the only advice I can give you is to deal with your own feelings of losing someone you considered a friend. You have to respect the wishes of the SP to step back. At this point there is no way to maintain a professional relationship. That doesn't mean that might night change. Feelings change and if she realizes that what she was feeling is different than what she thought, she may open that door again. I wouldn't count on it but it's always a possibility. I assume feelings are not mutual because of your comment so maybe take a look at other SP's and find one that interests you. Good luck, it's not an easy situation to have to deal with.
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3 pointsI don't visit often and I am very much a repeat client for some ladies. I spend a considerable amount of time getting to know the ladies I want to spend time with for a new first time visit ..... on the board or via text and I stay in touch after if possible. I will not visit with a lady unless I am more than comfortable that my personal belongings, my wallet, my personal info I have shared and my health is all safe and sound to the best it can be and that they are genuinely considerate of me and my wellbeing and I of them in return. Also that they enjoy what they do and want to be there and have FUN ! Therefore I sometimes tend to leave shit everywhere !! ha or forget it. Most ladies I have met know I would help out voluntarily in whatever way I can....if I can. Some may consider that silly and or naïve but that is how I roll.
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3 pointsHonestly, to pull out a POS terminal at the beginning of a date to process the payment for debit or credit would completely ruin the GFE aspect any visit with a lady for me. With the envelope, I walk in very discretely place it on a table and both of us can forget about it and move on to the experience. With a lady that I've visited with before and I trust, I'd actually prefer to pay electronically in advance via e-mail money transfer so that no payment has to occur at the time of the date at all. (I would also have cash on me just in case we run over the prepaid time) That's just me and my preference to maintain the illusion of a "real date".
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3 pointsHi there Gentleman I am 5'4, 115LBS. I have dark brown hair and dark chocolate eyes, my cup size is 32DD and I have a fit sexy body. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=7257&pictureid=46989 I assure you that our little time spent together will be warm, inviting and pleasurable. I know the importance of privacy and confidentiality. Everything that goes on in our session together will be our little secret ;) You can find me this week at Paradise located in the WEST End of Ottawa. Tuesday June 04th from 2:30 to 9pm Wednesday June 5th from 9 to 4pm Thanks Jade xo
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3 pointsThe one thing in my opinion that a SP can do to make things better is to just be herself:) Its nice to have see a genuine reaction from the SP.
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3 pointsIt's only reasonable that a SP could fall for a client. SPs are, after all, human. If the SP puts a stop to seeing you as a client, the reason may well be because the relationship between the two of you has grown to a point where it is putting at risk that element of self-control and self-discipline your SP must have in order to make a livelihood. And that, as everyone should understand, needs to come first. Be grateful that you had the privilege of having shared some great moments with this person, and be graceful. Accept that she is not ready to take it to the next level and that for now at least, your relationship with her, such as it was, has ended. Consent is EVERYTHING. If this person wants you back in her life, she'll let you know.
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3 pointsThis is a great thread and I enjoy the discussion and I feel as though I need to contribute. I was a newbie a while ago and due to my ignorance and naivety surrounding this business I was indeed filled with much of the apprehension that has been discussed. So in my state of ignorance my mind raced through all the issues that have been discussed and as Samantha noted my primary concern "at the time" was my OWN privacy and essentially being assured discretion by the companion. So I found the whole verification process unnerving the first time to say the least. However, because I had those concerns I did MY extensive research and chose to visit with an established, very experienced, well reviewed companion and felt that because that the lady had been confirmed as wonderful and trustworthy I would be "safe". In fact it was during my research I discovered CERB and actually PM'd with experienced, respected CERB members about this lady to further waylay my concerns. With that lady I provided everything that she asked for and was rewarded with a fantastic experience and friendship. Jump ahead many encounters and I have developed some great friendships with a number of amazing ladies. Some ladies I keep in contact regularly with and through these friendships I have had discussions with them about some of the things that they run into on a daily basis from prospective clients and established clients (anonymously of course). To be honest, some of the things I hear evoke feelings from extreme concern for the lady to complete disgust and anger. Although there might be many GOOD clients here on CERB that believe that the way THEY properly treat companions is the norm, I'm here to tell you that is not the case. Most of the companions that we encounter here on CERB and perhaps on other boards and sites have days filled with complete garbage from prospective clients and established clients. These ladies are not just whining to hear themselves, this stuff really happens often. Sometimes, from CERB members who we assume (given the tone of our board) should know better. These ladies have to wade through so much shit, and so many assholes day in day out just to find a couple of decent clients it's staggering. Given what I know, I can emphatically state that these companions have every reason and right to request ANY and ALL verification information necessary to make them feel comfortable with a client. Further as a friend of some ladies I would implore that they always screen clients diligently. It is solely up to the client to do HIS research to ensure that he feels comfortable with seeing a particular companion and providing the information SHE requires to make her feel comfortable. It is not for the lady to have to try to SELL/PROVE herself as trustworthy. As clients we have a multitude of sources (such as CERB and other boards) to gather information on ladies and ease our concerns over our safety and privacy. There are MANY more clients than companions, so ladies many times do not have the luxury to login to a board (like CERB) and within a few minutes obtain recommendations/reviews of clients to assess whether she should let them into her room and be intimate with that prospective client. Bottom line, choose an experienced, well reviewed/recommended lady. Research her, understand her approach and when as a client you feel comfortable that you can trust the lady, contact her and provide her whatever she wants to know make her feel comfortable seeing you. Remember, a companion doesn't need to prove her trustworthiness to you. If you don't trust her, don't see her. Simple as that! You DO have to prove your trustworthiness to her! Keep it in mind. An impatient rant from Chuck.
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2 pointsI was reading someone blog the other day and she was talking about how sometime men bring their wallet with them to the bathroom. She found this kinda hurtfull because she thinks it because the men don't trust her. I got me thinking I've been guilty of this a few time mostly when I meet someone new. It's not that I don't trust them its just why take the chance. I mean its happend to me once where I left my wallet and didnt realize until I was gone and at the store that I had no money left. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. So I always keep my wallet in my pocket and if I go to the bathroom usually to shower I bring my clothes. I mean no disrespect its just become a habit. Honestly I never thought that ladies may be offended by this. Guys what's your thought? Is there other things that offend you ladies?
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2 pointsI'm sure there has to be a few Game of Thrones fans among the ladies? If so, whose banner are you raising? Did I miss anybody?
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2 pointsThe soft romantic glow of candles, the flicker of light revealing just a hint of our bodies, begging you to use your sense of touch to explore eachother's bodies. I love the warm glow of candlelight.
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2 pointsAn ex-girlfriend loved Antonio Banderas! He told a story about being recognized in a store when the mother told her kids "Look it's Puss in Boots!" The kids said "No mom that's Zorro!":D
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2 pointsI'll keep this short and sweet, and please note, I am only speaking for myself (and like-minded people). These comments are general in nature and not addressed to anyone in particular. Above all, be yourself, be genuine, and engaging. Be flirty, lighthearted and go with the flow. Respect his boundaries, also, as he as a gent will most certainly respect yours. Be open to discussion about his wishes, and offer him your undivided attention, kindness, and (if needed) support. You and he are just two people trying their best to negotiate the dance and have a great time. More than likely, he will appreciate you for being real, making him feel welcome, connected, and so incredibly alive again.
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2 pointsExactly! I have asked numerous new clients to please take their belongings with them into the bathroom. It is a good practice for all gentlemen, all it takes is one dishonest SP to put all of us under suspicion.
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2 pointsI never get insulted when men bring their wallet with them-I totally get it-and as a matter of fact, I prefer they do that :)
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2 pointsHonestly I try very hard not to be offended by anything which means if something seems off to me, I put myself in the other shoes and try to think about what may have prompted that. Like you mentioned it could be habit, self protection or a host of other things. As we all acknowledge, there is a not so nice side to this business and even with great research, sometimes things happen. When you're with someone knew, there should be at least a small expectation of getting to know one another to be comfortable. Trust is earned most of the time. The only thing that really offends me is outright rudeness or people who try to hide rudeness under "honesty" or "awkwardness". I've met a few awkward people and they are rarely rude in fact most are very self aware are go out of their way to not be.
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2 pointsI feel the playmate is less pretentious than pigales i will take nice natural breasts over plastic any day. I find more dancers at the playmate use less pressure tactics and that the ladies are more down to earth. i like a good conversation with my dances sometimes and i find you can find that at the playmate more often than other clubs in the area.
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2 pointsHello Gentlemen My name is Cherry. I am 20 years of age, with Blond hair and bright blue eyes. I have a fit, tight body. I am 5'3, 110 pounds, and very tanned baby soft skin! I am new to massage. I have been working in the massage industry for just over a month now. I am very outgoing and open minded and I have a lot of class. My services include body slides, full body massage, Hotub sessions and reverse massage. I also love to reseve a good spanking ;) Everything that goes on in our session together is 100% confidential. You can find me in the West end of Ottawa, Paradise Spa. This week's Schedule Friday June 7th 1:00pm-11:00pm Saturday June 8th 9:00am-7:00pm To make a appointment for your playtime ;) 613-820-8887 xoxoxoxox
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2 pointsI think I've only seen Jenny in on a Tuesday once and she almost always takes them off, so they're not the best day to try and catch her. You can always give Barb's a call and ask if she's on schedule so you don't have to sit around wondering if she's in. Totally not a bother either - the DJ is usually the one to answer the phone and they don't mind answering that kind of question. As for dealing with dancers you're not interested in, I find it best to be upfront. If you're not interested, just say 'no thank you.' There's a fine line between being polite and indirectly encouraging her to sit or come back and try again, and it's certainly not impolite to be upfront. We're big girls and most of us don't take it personally and actually appreciate it!
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2 pointsAs others have said already, SPs are real people with real feelings. That this happens sometimes is one of the realities of our work. It's not a lot of fun for anyone, though. Give yourself a pat on the back. She told you how she felt and what she had decided to do. She trusts you and was willing to make herself vulnerable with you. She didn't send an e-mail goodbye, ignore your messages or stop returning your calls: many others would have done something like that. She's taken you and herself seriously. That says a lot about your character and how important the time you spent together has been for her. Don't sit around, waiting for her to contact you again, though, and don't initiate contact with her, either. She needs this separation.
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2 pointsThis is just generally speaking, and not at all directed to anyone I have seen, all of them has been nothing short of great. Please don't feel the need to fake it. I would much rather learn what works for you, and see it as an accomplishment if I succeed, or a challenge if I don't. Having a few guidelines for first contact can be very helpful, especially for a first timer. The first lady I contacted made it so easy by asking specific questions on her contact me section. This was discussed on another thread, don't compliment for the sake of boosting my ego. If it is a genuine one, it is always welcomed, but don't feel the need to make one up.
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2 pointsHi there, My name is Little Amy and I am new to Cerb and to the Ottawa area and I just wanted to take this time to introduce myself and say hi to you all. I look forward to making some new friends and meeting some of you.
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1 pointHello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)
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1 pointThis morning while I drink my coffee and read the boards here, I?m struck by how many complaints we have about the guys who take advantage of some aspect of our services and then treat us badly. There are active discussions about men who: Try to negotiate or bargain clearly-stated non-negotiable fees Try to pay less than the agreed fee after they arrive Try to get services that were not agreed on before the date Complain about our screening questions Don?t bother to take a shower, brush their teeth or trim their nails before seeing us Assume that we're likely to rob them Threaten to write bad reviews and/or aren?t believed when they write good ones Insult us, our need for safety and even our looks when we don?t give in to what they demand No one is forced to read our ads and websites, look at our photos, contact us, discuss our services with us, or meet with us. It?s all voluntary and initiated by the client. The client has needs, feelings, preferences and curiosity, but why do so many refuse to take responsibility for themselves? What they express as anger, self-righteous indignation and personal entitlement is really projected self-hatred. I want to sit these men down and say: If you don?t want to see a paid companion, don?t do it. If you decide to seek out a companion, that's your decision. What you want is not what everyone else may want. That?s usually a wonderful thing. Recognize that we?re not like cheap candy that you can buy daily. We?re more like fine dining to be enjoyed occasionally. Plan accordingly. If someone?s prices are too high for you, either wait until you can afford her, or find someone else. Meanwhile, don't blame her for your lack of funds. Recognize that she charges what the market will bear. That means that there are plenty of others who can afford to see her. Always be polite and considerate. No matter what. Even if you feel confused, disappointed or insulted, be polite. Remember that companions are human beings, just like you. We have needs, desires, dreams and things we?re worried about or afraid of, just as you do. We will protect both your health and our own. Fair is fair. If you're worried about your safety, know that she's concerned about her safety, too. No matter who or how important you are or think you are, the one who is taking the most risks is always the companion. Always. Relax.
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1 pointDefinitely candlelight for me , its sexy, romantic and just enough to see and be seen. A spotlight would be to much like a doctors exam, imo. Daylight or sunlight is fine but when I'm being passionate with a stranger I think when there is a bit of a "curtain" its easier for me to let go and be more sexually adventurous:)
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1 pointIts been our pleasure to meet you, chat with you and read your threads kiss kiss V
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1 pointI often ask a guest especially a first time one if he wold like me to bring his clothing etc to the bathroom . It only makes good sense and protects him and I. Friends I have known for years I don't even think of it. However there is something I don't like about waiting for a new guest to shower while I am in possession of his things. I try to help people in every situation, for example if a gentleman is a first time visitor I will tell him to take his things with him. Any I have explained this to were very thankful. Most people are honest and its not a problem, but why take a chance and ruin a nice time.
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1 pointCongratulations on your milestone here at CERB Someguy. Emily is right in regards to your contributions here. You're a very valuable member of our community here and we look forward to your next posts!
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1 pointCongrats and thank you for all your contributions someguy! :) You have awesome and thoughtful posts, and it's obvious how much you appreciate the CERB ladies and gents. We appreciate you too! :) Thank you for all of your recent photo threads paying homage to the gorgeous ladies of CERB too! :) And thank you for creating a sense of community in the chat room! I am coming into chat right now to flash my tits in appreciation! ;) Cheers to another 1000 posts! xoxoxox
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1 pointAnother one that may interest you is by the guitar virtuoso Michael Angelo Batio called Speed Kills.
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1 pointHello Gentlemen My name is Jenna. I am 5'9 125 lbs long dark hair,tanned, busty, fun, fit, outgoing and ALL YOURS... Let me give you some HOT summer fun just what you want & deserve..... Click this bar to view the full image. I love to touch and be touched..Let me show you what my hands and BODY can do.... Im very open minded and always up for new things. I LOVE to make you weak at the knees. Click this bar to view the full image. The erotic massage is altered to you liking, reverse massage, body slide, nude its all up to you..Let me use my entire body to rub you down.TELL ME HOW YOU LIKE IT... Click this bar to view the full image. Our time is NEVER Rushed Let me give you the most EROTIC & Mind Blowing Experience that will keep you wanting more.....and more ..... Couples Welcome/ Shower/ Hot Tub/ Duo's Call the Spa to book an appointment or pm me 613-274-7073 xoxox Jenna Schedule Tuesday June 4th> 5-11pm Wednesday June 5th> 10am-4pm @ 65* Bentley *angels* Room Rate 30 min - $50 45 min- $60 special 60 min - $80
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1 pointGood job!! I really have enjoyed your posts and contributions here:) Keep it!!
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1 pointA little Incubus to start the day off right!!! Been lucky enough to see them live 9 times...I own all of their albums and still listen to them whenever I can!
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1 pointOne that I recently discovered that I liked a lot was The Great Escape. You can't go wrong with the older 007 movies with Sean Connery either!
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1 pointI will preface this review with the standard your mileage may vary disclaimer but in all honesty, if you have never gotten a massage of this nature previously or have been hesitant to try then do yourself a favour and let Katrine be your first. It is easy and accurate to state that she is excellent at what she does and regardless of what massage package you choose, it will make for a great time and your body will thank you for it once you are finished. Upon entering her residence, Katrine greeted me with a warm welcome and if you are the anxious type like myself this is just the first step in the many that she executes that will help put you at ease. I wish I could describe what she was wearing in great detail but to be fair she wasn't wearing too much and frankly I wasn't bothered by it in the slightest. If you've checked out her website and perused her pictures then you have an idea of how beautiful a woman Katrine is but face to face is where you really get to see how fantastic she looks from top to bottom. She says she goes to the Gym and it shows as she is toned and very fit. Beyond that there are a number of places you can get lost looking at Katrine; her eyes, her lips, her legs, and you certainly cannot leave out her breasts. It is safe to say they are a handful and presumably a mouthful as well. It is understandable if you cannot keep your eyes off them throughout the massage. Prior to making the short walk over to where the massage takes place, you can see that she keeps her place tidy. While it likely isn't a deal breaker for the majority of people, it certainly doesn't hurt that she takes the time to make her place presentable as well. Of course if you are spending too much time looking at the decor, you are already not taking full advantage of what you have in front of you. The massage room is well lit, has music playing in the back ground. For my visit it was of the top 40 variety but again if you are putting too much stock into the music then you clearly need to loosen up still. The background noise could be a dentist drill and you won't mind. Once Katrine gets her hands on you, that's the ideal time to let your worries go away and focus on what's important. Letting Katrine take care of you. If you choose a massage with girlfriend privileges then you are certainly in for a treat. While I have a rather uncanny ability to ramble on excessively (review not withstanding), even before I stepped foot on the massage table I got to find out how good a kisser Katrine truly is. On her website, she is confident enough to state that she is a great kisser and she backed it up and then some. She absolutely emanates sensuality and you start to feel it after a few soft and delicate kisses. Yes tongue is involved and Katrine got me going just enough to have me yearn for her and what she had in store next. If you think it can't happen to you so easily, Katrine will prove otherwise. It's almost easy to forget I was there for a massage as kissing her and holding her body close to mine was as great an ice breaker one could ask for. When it's time for the massage, the table Katrine uses is comfortable and lengthy so taller individuals like myself won't have to worry too much about dangling off of the sides. If you've got the skills, I'd recommend starting with giving Katrine a massage. Since I can't massage my way out of a paper bag, I had to decline this offer but you don't have to be like me. If you want the opportunity to rub her body up and down, do it. She is bound to thank you when it is time for her to massage you. Since I started with the massage after the brief but delightful make out session, I learnt quickly how good Katrine is with her hands. I noticed plenty of attention was given to my upper body and with all the pressure points and sensitive muscles there, it may be a subtle observation but worth noting. She focuses on one side of the body fairly thoroughly before moving to another side. Of course having her hands on your shoulder blades is just the beginning. Feeling her hands rub and caress my back, legs, thighs and neck. Every extremity gets attention all the while Katrine stays attentive making certain I am enjoying myself which I most certainly was. An early exclamation point to the massage would be Katrine's bodyslide which is arousing as it sounds. If you are wondering what big breasts feel like against your naked back, the short answer is fantastic. Katrine isn't shy in the slightest and when she gets up close and personal the way she does it will get your body tingling. This is dependent on the type of person you are. For the quiet types, you can certainly let Katrine do her thing but you'd be missing out on some very light hearted and easy going conversation. Whether you prefer to speak in English ou Francais, Katrine doesn't miss a beat as I was able to keep a dialogue going with her for the duration of the massage. Presuming you aren't just focusing on her naked body, and you can be forgiven for doing so, being able to just talk about anything and everything certainly helped get rid of any lingering anxiety I had coursing through my body. Don't be afraid to ask her questions. She's a fascinating woman and while you come for the massage (and perhaps some extra benefits), you certainly can stay for some stimulating conversation. Yes she has an accent, and yes it is sexy but I figured that was a given. When it's time to turn over, this is where business picks up. This portion will vary depending on the type of massage you arranged but in any event Katrine gives you special attention in the area you were most likely waiting for. Have to admit I tried in earnest to shut up and just enjoy it but even if you still feel the urge to talk, Katrine doesn't get fazed in the slightest. If you're going with strictly a massage then Katrine will work you over until the very end. Of course when that very end occurs is up to you, or more specifically when you have reached your pleasure plateau. While Katrine is unquestionably an expert masseuse with her hands, if your massage includes girlfriend privileges or more then you get the immense pleasure of seeing and more importantly feeling how much of an expert masseuse Katrine is with her mouth. There's a number of worthwhile cliches I could use and all of them would be relevant to describe the feeling I got from Katrine and her mouth but instead I will just state if not implore that you experience it for yourself. No need to thank me afterwards. Katrine has frequent specials and I would be amiss not to state that you should take full advantage of them when they come around. I was apprehensive about it prior to the encounter but when it was time for Katrine to switch from using her mouth to sliding me inside her that's when the ride (no pun intended) reached its crescendo. Katrine quipped that she has a magical pussy; sorry there was really no way of stating that conservatively but she wasn't lying when she said that. Again I encourage you to try it for yourself since words can only describe the experience which is nowhere near as good as actually participating and doing it. Perhaps the only thing missing from the session was getting the opportunity to find out how good she tastes down there but unfortunately I have no one to blame but myself for that not happening. Hey, I am only human remember? So in summation, Katrine will make the time you spend with her worth your while. Just being in the presence of her and putting yourself in her capable hands is something you will want to do time and time again. She will give you the massage of a life time and certainly more if you choose to pursue additional perks. It goes without saying that I recommend her wholeheartedly. However fair warning that whether she is your first massage or it is just your first massage with her, you will fall under her spell and have no need to worry about getting a massage from anyone else, period.
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1 pointi concur with RG I haven't met with cleo either but from my experience here she or another long term member would be your best bet. Have no fear!, i know you may be nervous but the ladies here on cerb will make you feel more than comfortable and I suspect after you do you will become a regular. Good luck my friend! You wont need it by the way sugar
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1 pointAlmost forgot about this one, an all-time fav: And while looking for the one above, I stumbled across this for the first time. Any gamers out there are sure to get a laugh: (it's a compilation of commercials but the link should jump you to the correct spot.)
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1 pointGreat to see you again! Yes, definitely. It just makes her look more professional; the fact that she's bothered to put a website together makes it look like she's got her act together, and you're less likely to run into cancellations or last-minute changes or whatever else. That may not always be an entirely fair impression (I know damn well there are some fantastic and completely professional SPs out there who don't have websites), but it's the one I get. I should also say: this applies more to indies than to agency/spa folks. If you're working for an agency or spa, then you've presumably already outsourced a lot of your marketing to them anyway... Somewhat. It's not a deal-breaker by any means, but... somewhat. If I'm thinking about seeing her, then yes; the more I know about her, the better a decision I can make on whether we're actually going to get on well if/when we meet.
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