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It is unclear what this part of your post has to do with the original topic of being safe, and it kind of just sounds like you have a gripe. However, in my experience, many e-mails I receive go unanswered not because I have no concept of how to run a business, but because the sender has no concept as to how to address a lady. Or the information I requested is not included and I have other e-mails waiting with all the proper info. Or possibly because the sender is a known bad date. These things include probably at least half of the correspondence I receive regarding "prospective appointments". We are in the business to make money and meet new clients. We LOVE to receive e-mails for prospective appointments and respond to them. But only the ones that are polite, and complete. We don't care to acknowledge or have time to respond to all the other crap that crowds our inboxes. I am not saying this is why you seem to have a problem with this, but I do sometimes see hobbyists complaining about this, and they never seem to think that maybe they are the reason for the lack of response.

Hi, this is my 3rd year on Cerb, 1st year was mostly lurking and reading the various post and threads and getting to know the SP's/MA's and gentlemen on the board thru their postings. It was almost a year before I took the plunge to meet my 1st SP. She was a kind young woman that gave a great first experience and second experience. I met my second SP in the following year, and she was a great experience and I have seen many times since, and we have become good friends. After that I had my first GFE Massage and it was great which then lead to many more GFE Massages, Now in my third year of hobbying, I have started to meet many more Cerb women and each experience seems to get better and better. I even had my first duo last week :). It was exceptional :) This is a summary of what I've learnt from being on Cerb and my experiences with Cerb women :). What I've learnt from the Cerb Community: - it is a community of caring Men and Women. - it is a source of useful information - is a source of recommended women that have had proven reputations. - it is a place where information can be asked and answered - it is a social community where members have helped each other in need. - it is a place where discussions can be debated. - There are senior members that give good advice to the Newbie's - Also thanks the CERB MOD, he has does a great job, keeping the board running and moderating the members and post. - without the Mod there would be no Cerb. What I have learnt from the Cerb Chat Room: - This is a great place to make friends and meet the other members. - I have spent hours in chat, talking to the men and women of Cerb. - Have met people from around Canada. - I have helped and been helped with other members. - Some night we have a lot of laughs. - Other nights meaningful discussions. What I have learnt from the Cerb Gentlemen: - They are here to help others with information about the industry - They are kind and thoughtful men and know how to show respect to the women of Cerb. - Established gentlemen are proven safe men for the Cerb Women. - Some of them have a great sense of humour. - They have come to the assistance of other members in need. - Without the gentlemen, there would be no Cerb. What I have learnt from Cerb Women: - They are kind and sexy women. - They except people for who they are , regardless of race or colour or size. - All they expect is for them to be clean, smell good and show them with respect. - Please respect their time and limitations. - Arrive on time with the proper donations. - No negotiation of donations. - If you can't make it please call to cancel. - It takes a special woman to be able to do this job. - The women who really enjoy this job and pleasing men give the best service. - Beauty and sexuality is shown from within the person. What I have learnt from myself: - When I started I was a shy man around women. - Now I have more confidence and have no problem being naked with strange women :) - I enjoy spending intimate time with Cerb women. - I enjoy chatting with learning about the real person. - I have become friends with several of the women and keep in contact with them. - Women seem to actually like me for some reason. - As with all meetings, YMMV, But I've learnt to be a gentleman and have in general received better services then I expected :) - Always please the women first, and they will return the favour :) - As I always say, I'm a gentleman and the woman cum first :) Advice to Newbies: - Read the above facts :) - Respect the women. - Be a gentleman. - Women with recommendations are a good choice, but in all cases YMMV. - Participate and become part of the Cerb Community. In closing. I love being on CERB, it has become a daily part of my life. and Thank you to all you women for being sexy, kind, beautiful and emotionally strong to be able to provide the services that you do. I am grateful for the exceptional times that I have spent with Cerb women, they know who they are :). And I hope to have many more great experiences. Gentlemen and women, let's hear what you have learnt from your experiences on Cerb.

There was a song in the 70's... and the chorus had one line that resonates: "the hardest part of love is letting go." Thirteen years ago I was at the point in my life when I had to make that decision. I loved the ex... and part of me still does in different ways, but with the benefit of hindsight I can see that she was doing to me and what I was doing to myself. We each lost who we were when we started the relationship and had become strangers living together. What we had left was the comfort of our possessions and the uneasy sense of belonging to a "couple" regardless of how distant we had become. I made the decision that I was not satisfied like that... and after discussing the status of our relationship and the need to improve it, she decided that she didn't want to try anymore. Of course at the time I was oblivious to the fact that she was in another "secret" relationship... so I left. It hurt like hell. It felt like I had thrown away years of my life and that I was never going to feel part of anything that unique ever again. Then it happened. I discovered "me" again... and dammit, I like "me." I discovered that I had buried "me" so that I could be part of "us"... and frankly,by the end of the relationship, "us" sucked. That was 13 years ago. I have been nearly married 3 times since... but in the end, I am a happier man than I have ever been in the past. My kids love "me." I love "me." My friends love "me." You only have one go at life my friend. No need to live it in misery. Be strong. Make smart choices. Most important, decide to live your life happy and as yourself. It won't come easy, but then again, nothing in life that is worth having does come easy. Be strong!

First, my heart goes out to you. I've known a version of some, though not all, of the things you're describing. I'm truly sorry your life's path has brought you to this unhappy point. Second, it's VERY good that you're reaching out for advice, and CERB is a great community, but I don't think you can find what you really need here. You need to talk with someone, for a long time and in great detail, about: - what's going on, exactly - how you feel about all the various parts of it - you're wife's circumstances and what has brought her to this point and how capable and likely she is to change - and what's important to you You can find a bit of solace and comfort through CERB but really you need to talk to a professional about this. Find a therapist for yourself; this is what they're for, and they can help you work through your thoughts and feelings on this. It's commendable that you're looking for help in this difficult time. I just advise you to go one step further and consult someone who can help you properly in this terribly complicated situation. I can understand that for those who married young and built their whole lives as a couple, letting go of that vision and contemplating any other is deeply painful and terrifying. It challenges your entire perception of the world, your life, and your place in it. What I can tell you is that, unless you do something about it -- no it won't get better, it will just carry on, unfold into a crisis, or you'll become deadened and resigned to the situation. Don't let those things happen. With some professional gudance figure out what you really want next, and then make changes of some kind in line with what's really important to you. You're not alone. Good luck and heartfelt best wishes.

Happy Fathers Day Dads!!! I am missing my Dad today, as this is the first fathers say since he passed away last July. Missing him. If you still have your Dad, call him today, or go see him if you can!!!

Im just curious, since you say you book so far in advance, did you confirm the day prior or a few days prior? other than just texting for the location the day of? As personally to me, if you don't confirm the day prior we have no date.

Stay away..she is known street walker in Saint John....

The problem with your challenge of the premise is the passage of time. As society involves so do our attitudes. The laws that were struck down for the most part have been in existence for many many years. Back when Canada was a different country than it is today. Where living together outside the bonds of marriage was looked down upon, where the Catholic church was a dominant force in Quebec, where gay marriage was illegal, where a transgendered person may have been locked up in a hospital for their aberrant behaviour etc. Those days are in the past and attitudes have changed. Modern legislators have much different viewpoints and beliefs then those of 50 years ago. If the laws being challenged were enacted in the last 5 years, then you might be right, but in this case things have changed in society's attitudes towards sexuality and relationships.

It been 2 years on the 11th that I have now belonged to Cerb. So I thought I'd share some of the things I've learned, especially of late 1. That is: Who some say is a good client may not necessarily be for me. If I get the sense that the person interested in seeing me isn't my type best not to follow through. I've done this to many times resulting in wasted time, no fun and regretful moments. I used to get the feeling just because someone, especially a Cerb member, wanted to see me it was necessary to book. I guess I was afraid of the repercussions of refusing:( One persons champagne is another persons beer! 2.Just because someone is a Cerb member doesn't mean their character is golden. I am grateful to be here and thankful I'm accepted by a lot but I have realized that there are unreliable people everywhere, cerb is no exception and, trust has to be earned it isn't guaranteed by any site. Nothing is. :) 3. This is a great place to discuss sex and to dirty talk. 4. We are lucky to have a Canada wide FREE advertising site and I'm happy and thankful to be a part of it:) 5.Thankfully, a site where there can be no bashing, some still make digs, but hey, they have to have something to do:) 6.That perhaps Ottawa is the center of the universe, lol. 7.Research, research ,research- this goes both ways. 8. Being a provider isn't anything to be ashamed of, it can be like actual dating and sometimes surprisingly nice things can result from it. Never be afraid to go beyond your boundaries. Its my time, my body and, mine to share and to do with as I please:) 9. Ignore, ignore, ignore maliciousness. When you do, good things happen:) 10. Most importantly- ENJOY- its alright to have a good time with a date. It is after all about having fun and wanting to give someone else a sample of "you" and that needs to be beneficial for both sides:) 11. Recommendations are nice but they are just an opinion 12. I'm good at a lot of things but I'm the best at just being myself, to some that'll be great and to others not so good, win some lose some. I've learned that its okay not to be liked by everyone . Well my last sentiment-I've been bad-I've been booted out a couple of times-live an learn-move on:) and I've been good-have lots of rep points now:) and cerbie friends- so thanks for letting me into your neighbourhood:)

Everything can be screen shot. I am unaware of a software that prevents this, but there are inventive ways to get around this.

There was already a thread on this person closed by the MOD due to being outside the boundaries of CERB regarding positive feedback and keeping members safe. There has only been one positive comment so my suggestion would be to contact that person via PM to ask your questions and not to keep beating the dead horse. Sometimes what is not being said speaks volumes.

I was shopping at the local supermarket. I was low on Astroglide for my backdoor activities, so I picked some up. At the checkout, it was the last thing to be scanned. I was paying with Visa, so when the debit machine was ready, the sweet young lady made eye contact, smiled sweetly, and said "stick it in the bottom". Huh, WTF? Times sure have changed....

What I have learned. CERB is a community of like minded people, sharing a common lifestyle. But this community isn't just about this wonderful lifestyle, although some of the subject matters do involve this lifestyle. We are supportive of one another and there are topics beyond this lifestyle. The members here may all share a common interest, but that isn't only what we are all about RG

Point taken and maybe I was too critical, maybe not, but I'd like to temper my post by saying it wasn't meant as an attack of any sort. Certainly there is some leeway to mention things not related directly to the original topic. It's to every member's individual taste what crosses the line or not. I agree in principle with both of those points. Now let's move on! :) FR

I would like to thank everyone for all the kind words and thoughts you have been giving me. Thank you for all your positive energy, it is especially important because of choosing to share this with all of you. In times like this I can say that being in a community like Cerb feels really good. My father contributed a lot to the world and I can see now how everyone in my community appreciated this from him. He will be missed by many but mostly by me. Thanks to all again.

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Well, that one was a clear hijack, but to answer your question about safety: Ladies, it will never be a show-stopper for me (and like-minded gents) for you to express your wish to remain as safe as possible. You do what is comfortable and right for you, and true gentlemen will respect that. Oddly, even without any demand on my part, or even any prior discussion, I've received bbbjs in almost all cases by default. If a lady were to ask if it were o.k. to put on a hat, by all means! I may even have to request it myself one of these days ;) - for comfort and greater peace of mind. The loss of sensation is hardly noticeable, if proper lubrication is in place, and just as enjoyable. FR

I'm still trying to figure out what my topic about being safe has to do with not responding to emails?... But to answer that I do not like to respond through emails and I will not give out any personal information through emails...I am blunt and straight forward in all of my posts everywhere I post online that I will not take blocked calls or emails I prefers to speak over the phone ...and if I do answer to you at all its either because I am busy with someone or my family or because I do not have a good feeling about the person for whstever reason...just like you have the right to spend time with who you want we as service providers have that right to choose as well..its not always about the money but rather a good connection and positive vibes between me and him! I hope that answered your question some what...xo

There is a pervasive perception in this industry that rate=quality. The lower the rate, the lower the quality of the woman behind it and the experience you will receive. To this I say, take your judgments and misconceptions and ***** them. Until you meet someone and interact with them, you will never know the quality of them so to make the above statement is judgment clear and simple. Personally, a rate reflects more than just the quality of the encounter because like any business, there are more things taken into account than the service provided. There is the space used for said services, how said services are presented, bells and whistles that accompany the service, the availability of the service and the service itself. I do not consider myself any less or any more quality than anyone else and to others, that is a subjective thing anyway. You could pay $50 or $500 yet if you don't connect with the person, that impacts the value you believe you received. Rates are personal to each individual and are set based on their own criteria and what the market will bear. Are rates set based on how each individual views themselves and the worth they believe they are bringing to the table? For some people, yes. This does not mean for everyone. Some offer lower rates due to the place they live and work. This is a business and as such, you need to be in the business to make money. If you're spending out more on business related items and not making anything, this is not a good business model. All I'm saying is that just as there are many individual providers with individual personalities, likes, dislikes, turn on's, turn off's, so are there reasons behind rates. Just as the value and quality of a hobbyist shouldn't be based on how big his wallet is, SP's shouldn't be judged on how much they charge, high or low. I know people won't change unless they chose to, this is just a "food for thought" topic because I for one, am not cheap or lower quality. It also works on the other foot as well, SP's shouldn't be judged if their rate is higher. They shouldn't be classified as a greedy or a snooty b**ch. Lower rates shouldn't make higher rates look bad. These are all judgments and perceptions that we are in control of. We CHOSE to make these comments that then create tension and negativity. Think about it...maybe.

I wonder what your post has to do with a thread on being safe. It does just seem like your griping YMMV is a industry standard, and not a problem area, at least it I've never had a problem with YMMV. Do you really think all clients should be treated the same? A gentleman who treats a lady with respect, is clean, fresh breath, pays his donation in full, and is not intoxicated, for example, will likely receive a wonderful memorable encounter compared to a man who instead being respectful, is rude, ill mannered, poor hygiene, bad breath, maybe arrives intoxicated and so forth. Just because a man pays a lady for her time doesn't mean he owns her. And whatever happens during that time together is between two consenting adults, not just what the man wants to do. When you read a lady's website and she has a menu, that is a list of services she may offer, not what she definitely will offer. A lot of YMMV is very much dependant on the client, not the lady As for emails not replied to, I've very rarely encountered it, less than five times in three years, and once it turned out the lady was retired. I can't see that being a issue of concern unless it happens regularly. If it does, maybe look at how you write your email. Are you respectful, a gentleman, or rude and vulgar in language. A lady makes determinations based on the impression you leave. If she feels the email is being sent by a crude ignorant man versus a gentleman, she won't want to see him. Number one she has to think of her safety. At an encounter she is allowing a man to be alone with her intimately. She doesn't want to risk her safety, not to mention self respect for any amount of money If you aren't getting replies to your emails, maybe think of the impression you are giving to the lady from the emails you send Now lets get back to the topic at hand RG

Thankfully in real political democracy, the general public does not usually vote specifically on the issues that directly affect the whole population. We vote to elect someone who we trust is actually fully educated about all the issues, knows all of the details about proposed laws and changes, weighs pros/cons and recognizes possible outcomes and how they will affect the entire population. They will then vote on the specific issues how they best see fit to serve the people.

Thank you so much for this thread. Very wise words, and it really is true. I have learnt from Cerb to reach out to others. I have always worked alone. Even if working with an agency, I still kept to myself. It wasn't that I was shy, but more that I really didn't trust others. There were too many trouble makers, shit disturbers and those out to take from you what you have. Here, however, I have made some really good friends. People that want to help, not because they want something in return, but they genuinely want to help you. I have had sp's contact me for no reason, but to say hi, if you ever need any help, I am here for you. Not that I was in crisis, but that they see that I was new, and they wanted to make sure I was welcome. When working in this industry, those that do not work in it really don't understand. They think they do, but really they don't. Here, I have found sp's and hobbyists that have brought information to my attention, that I would never have thought of myself. The perspective of another sp. Also, the perspective of another hobbyist. This alone is so valuable. I am grateful for cerb. Not specifically as an advertising site. I can get that anywhere. Even as a recommendation site, well, that helps, but in reality, even without the recommendations or the advertisements, what I get from here is a sense I have a whole country that is routing for me, is watching my back, loves me and treats me with respect. Wow, and I don't even have to pay anything for this. I have become the provider I want to be. I have been able to showcase my talents, ideas, thoughts, silly stuff and of course the serious stuff. Thank you to everyone that makes this site such a great commodity. It is my resource, my inspiration, my desire to better myself. I am blessed to be here and I thank everyone. xoxo

Small or big, discreet or spectacular, tattoos has become pieces of art shown on an individual, and shared by the others. The more I see tattoos, the more I find them sexy, interesting, and try to find under those magnificent drawings what they say of the person who wears it and what the tattoo artist has accomplished. Many of the ladies here on Cerb wear tattoos, and I'm a fan. Tattoos have become part of our culture.

If a provider goes on webcam chat is it against the rules for others to screen shoot their face picture or is just a mutual respect thing? I've had issue with my face pictures being screen shot and harassed and would love to go on web cam chat but I am concerned for my privacy and discretion. Big Hugs, Lexy

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I apologize, but I need to postpone my visit to Ottawa that was to take place this month. I will hopefully be able to reschedule it for later this summer, or early fall! xo

This is mutual respect thing, really. You could take a screenshot fairly easily now... I believe in terms of CERB chat you could even just hit print screen. Or in other certain cases or website you could even run a recording program ... The beauty of technology ... is also its biggest downfall. Hope that helps.

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Your situation sounds remarkably and painfully close to mine. My wife and I have progressed to a different but still caring relationship. Of course, despite any similarities, all situations are different enough that they cannot necessarily be resolved in the same way. I sympathize. PM me if you would like to talk.

I have to be honest and say I have never been in that type of love. I have experienced love-for my family, friends, my fur babies-my dogs, but not a so. But clearly I can empathize and offer this. You are mourning the loss of something that once was, nothing stays the same. To sit and wait for something that once was is wasted time and energy. When in a relationship where feelings aren't being reciprocated feelings of resentment can arise making things worse and possibly add to her health issues and even damage yours. Move on, accept your friends back, fill your time and energy with positive things and people, these will help you heal and in time if she becomes more healthy and wants to share in a more balanced relationship with you, then if you are ready, you can accept her back. Hun, people change, life throws us unexpected hits. The true test is how you deal with those and you can still love her, but from a distance and you never know maybe there is another "truer" love out there just waiting for you:)Our hearts are delicate, but resilient, they do and can heal.

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I agree Lexy my dad passed a few years ago and his death was tragic...my boys miss him so much and it sucks to not have him here today..I would give my life to hold him one more time and tell him I love him ...hugs to you mama I feel your pain

Did they remove that stupid punching machine? All it does is gather up idiot rednecks trying to knock the thing as hard as possible thinking its a precisely calibrated & sophisticated measuring instrument. The main issue is that it's on the way to the cr and I got knocked back once when passing behind the gathering douche bags it entertains. The dancers hate it, the clients hate it too.

I dont use the same language when I correspond with clients than I use to talk with my friend. The "Where r u?" arent very professionnel. If you have to contact your lawyer, doctor or whatever.. I dont think you use "hey wassup" kind of thing. If this is a regular client, this is a different thing but for first approch... "wanna fuck?" "where?" Sorry, its a BIG turn off!

It's pretty clear to me that the huge amount of public education we've been doing since Justice Himmel's Ontario court decision, the Picton hearing and the Ontario Court of Appeal decision is just a start. If the SCC decides to uphold the OCA and, by extension, Justice Himmel, things will be in flux for quite awhile and public education will need to increase. For example, the public should know is that there are many thousands of independent paid companions in Canada and that we've been working in their neighbourhoods for many years, very quietly and discretely, without causing a problem for anyone. Most of us don't want to change what we're doing or the way we do it. If we haven't caused a disturbance already, it's highly unlikely that we will in time to come. People will raise concerns about noise, traffic, parking and any potential dangers related to lust-crazed men roaming around their neighbourhoods. But most of these concerns are unrealistic. Noise problems are municipal by-laws offenses already. As for traffic and parking, well, I know that a psychiatrist lives about a block and a half to the west of me and that he sees five or six patients in his home every weekday. They park on the street. There's a marriage and family therapist who runs her practice out of her home, about two blocks north of my home. She probably has five or six meetings per day, too. As for me, I haven't seen five or six clients a day in years. But even if I did, that traffic wouldn't be any greater than the psychiatrist's or the therapist's. Heck, a family with three active teenagers is likely to have more people arriving and leaving during the evening and on weekends than I ever could. So we'll need to talk about the scale of our work and the kind of impact a one or two-worker brothel like mine has on the community. Bigger establishments are a different matter, but they also can be regulated via municipal by-laws, building codes and the like. I think that people will quickly begin to understand that these places are not going to spring up overnight, like mushrooms after it rains. No one knows how many will open, or where, or who will fund them. There are ladies who want to work in publicly recognized brothels, but no one knows whether there's enough clientele to support more than a couple in most cities. I don't want to work in a multi-worker establishment: it's just not my style and, after all these years, I don't want to change. I'm also quite certain that virtually none of my regular visitors would ever consider going to a known brothel. Their privacy is extremely important to them. This is why I don't agree with Miss Jane when she says that "the whole foundation of discretion nowadays is dependent to a large extent on the existing criminal laws". The criminal laws have influenced the way that many of us work, it's true. But I think that many people will have enduring interest in privacy and discretion even if the laws change. Perhaps one day, decades from now, the social climate will be different. But I doubt that my guests or I will be alive to see it. As I've said elsewhere, if the SCC strikes down the laws and prostitution is decriminalized, I think the major focus will be on multi-staff, commercial establishments for quite awhile, not on independent companions. The large houses will attract a lot of attention. But regulating independent women like me is a much greater headache because our work varies greatly. For example, I usually entertain one person a day. For much of the rainy winter, I met them at my home. In the last two weeks, I've only seen four visitors here. I've met everyone else in hotels, mostly downtown. Now, I've been working for quite awhile but most paid companions join our profession for less than six months; the next-largest group works for just under a year before retiring. Keeping track of all of us is all but impossible. What will the public accept? It's very hard to say. Different communities, different neighbourhoods and different parts of the country will probably take different attitudes and approaches. Vancouver will be very tolerant, in general, much as it is with marijuana. Toronto will probably be almost as accepting. But Red Deer? Regina? Fredericton? I have no idea. I wouldn't be so sure about the difficulties for independents, Curve. That is, legislators and by-laws writers may try to regulate independent companions, yes. But will they succeed? We are notoriously difficult to regulate, now and highly adept at working around laws, restrictions and limitations. I don't imagine many of us will change. I for one will accept whatever advantages new legislation may bring and am more than likely to reject restrictions that I don't consider to be of benefit to me and my visitors. I've been quite comfortable working outside the bounds for a long time and am prepared to continue, if need be.

What reaction are you talking about? An intelligent and reasonable discussion with information presented from people who understand the subject and are actually directly affected by it? You nailed down a set of choices and suggested that they were the ONLY choices. You stated up front that you didn't want to hear any other opinions as if you were the ultimate authority in the subject. Then you act all butt-hurt that people had the audacity to disagree with your viewpoint? Sorry dude. It's your right to post anything you want but you don't know everything and it's incredibly arrogant to assume that you have the final word without hearing any other opinions.

I don't think there's anything to be gained by focusing on the worst-case scenarios and negative what-ifs. We also can't compare Canada with European countries where one of the problems they face is steady migration of workers in all industries which puts considerable stress on employment, employers, police and social services generally. Canada is a genuinely moderate, liberal country, even with the Harper government. Prostitution and regulating the sex trade are not big issues here and certainly don't compare to problems with the economy, the environment, health care delivery and patronage. The SCC hearing this week will be fascinating. The court's rulings, whenever they happen, will be even more so. How the government does or does not respond in terms of legislation will also take time. Things may change. Or not. Worrying in advance won't make a difference in the end. If we have a negative outcome, our basic screening requirements may become much more strict. Prices may rise. One thing is sure: my colleagues and I will continue to work as long as there are suitable gentlemen interested in meeting with us. So, relax.

I understand the aggravation... but for a first timer, even that "hi" is a big step. This is not an apology for the guys that have been on the boards for quite some time or for someone that has had more than one experience. This is for that first timer. "Hi" is hell. "Hi" is scary. "Hi" means that he has stepped out of his comfort level, regardless of what it is, and decided to delve into a world that is completely foreign to him. We all know the media portrayals; rarely are they positive. But the guy that says just "hi" is going against everything he has been shown and everything that society has told him, and is entering a great big world unknown to him. He may have been debating that "hi" text for weeks. He probably wrote and erased that "hi" a dozen times on his phone and when he finally was satisfied with that message, debated again just pressing the "send" button. "Hi" means that he has decided on extra marital adventure for the first time. "Hi" means that he is lonely and doesn't have the social skills for intimate relationships in the real world. "Hi" means that he and his SO have broken up and is reaching for something to ease the pain for just a short amount of time. "Hi" means so many things, and it could be that you, the recipient are the one he has chosen out of a hundred other possibilities to help him. He doesn't know the next step. He's never done this before. He is scared. Believe me, he is petrified. You are beautiful and sexy and are offering him things that he hasn't had in a long time, if ever. He may stop at just "hi." That may have been the limit of his fortitude. He may just say to himself, "I can't do this." So when you get upset at "hi," please understand that at one time he may have been ALL of us, everyone who gets into the hobby for one of the multitude of reasons that we do the things we do. I apologize if I have offended, all I want to do is give some sense of what that "hi" was all about. I rest my case.

Speaking from experience, I know when I first started in the hobby, I found it very difficult to pick up the phone and call a service provider. Being a bit shy, it often took me a while to build up the courage to take that first step. Once I discovered CERB, it was a lot easier - I could use a PM to make that first contact and have a bit of back-and-forth correspondence with a lady. Sometimes it leads to an encounter, sometimes it doesnt. But it should still be polite and friendly. I'm thinking some of these one-liners might be on the shy side, and unsure what to say or how to open up the lines of communication. "Hi" might be all they can manage with the first contact. That being said, those that send out the "Available? Rate? Location?" texts or PMs simply lack class and respect! It's so easy to read a lady's ad, profile and/or website, find their preferred means of communicating, and touch base accordingly.