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I have to say, I'm always somewhat dubious about the merits of negotiation with someone who's providing a service. If I can get something off a shelf for a bit less, that's great, but services aren't like that. Really, think about it for a moment. If you haggle with someone and pay less for their services, do you honestly imagine that you're getting the same service as you'd have got if you'd paid their asking price? That they won't cut corners, or use cheaper materials, or pay less attention to detail, or spend a little less time making sure they give you the best possible service, or go the extra mile before they just think, "Stuff it, that's good enough for this guy"? This applies to all service industries, not just the one we're concerned with on this board. But given the very personal nature of the services we're engaged in here... I think it applies more here than to some others.

Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa September Social will be held Thursday, September 19th, so mark your calendar!! There will be 60 spots available (30 gents and 30 ladies) for members in good standing. Gents, tickets will be made available soon, at a cost of $35, which will cover snacks, drinks for the ladies and door prizes. I will keep everyone up to date via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by CERB members for members, you can contact myself, Loneskater or Spud271 directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

I will be there, i just hope nothing happens with work

I have marked my calendar! Looking forward to a great event!

I would love to attend. A great way to fall into Fall.

I have beautiful, perfectly shaped and naturally tanned Soft long legs.. Hard as rock as I workout and keep myself fit and healthy at all times... And did I heard my favorite word?? Naked! Oh yes! Love being naked cause god gave me a beautiful body to show off hehe... But off course I d want you to be naked with me too! ;-). No fun in being naked alone ;)

Come me in too...:)

Chatroom has been increased to 40 seats from 20 seats (Doubled it) so hopefully that is enough at this time but as needed we will increase the capacity.

is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating!

My wildest fantasies???...Having encounters with the beautiful ladies of CERB, ladies who turn men's heads. And they are seeing middle aged me. I love the intimacy of encounters with one lady And I love that some of those encounters with ladies have developed into friendships. Which is why I had one very special encounter, a ménage a trois (not a duo, not a threesome) with two ladies who I consider friends, very special friends. It wasn't about numbers, or a bucket list or anything like that. It was about three friends (2 Goddesses and me) getting together for one evening, one very special evening. A rambling RG

Personally, I don't negotiate on rates. I once had a reg that moved away but would visit once in a while. Had an unexpected bill pop up during one of her visit to town so couldn't afford her rate at that specific time. She offered me a reduce rate since I had seen her many times but I didn't accept it as I felt if I was to see her I would pay her normal rate. However just saw this in shout: "Available tonight, prices negotiable." Hard to blame ppl for wanting to negotiate! I

Ok, this just happened to me two days ago, I contacted the router folks directly. I assume you don't have the box right in front of you to tell them what kind it is, etc. in any event it doesn't actually matter what you are using or not using. It helps that you don't need a password. you have to follow a few steps. It isn't the wifi, or the router, it's your computer that needs to be reset. According to dlink helper, these things happen and it can be a number of factors. In other words, stuff happens, don't worry about it, here is the fix: bear with me because i cannot read my own writing Click on Start Click on Control Panel Go to Network and Internet Go to Network and Sharing in the task list, you will click on Manage Wireless Networks select the network that you have been using from the list and click Remove. If a warning comes up click ok, you do want to remove it Now go back to Network and Sharing and choose Change Adapter setting Right click the wireless network connection > click Connect/disconnect click refresh to view the available networks, and highlight the one that you want to connect with and double click it. do this again if it doesn't work. When i had to do it to my computer the first time didn't work. My friend had it happen as well and she only had to do it the once. cheers And look at me, posting a tip in the Tech section :)

I enjoy both as long as is hot and sunny, so ican just wear my bikini or nothing lol... The ocean does have a relaxing efect with the sound of the waves.., very relaxing... Lakes are nice being fresh water..if you happen to swallow by accident it doesnt taste as bad LOL...

LOVE, you pervert! You came to the right place...I'm so easy going :) submissive in fact. To a safe gentleman of course. Glide your hands down the length of my long legs until you feel the curve of my ass. Lets explore each other fully. My rates are always easy to handle. Working until 9 this evening at Paradise. West end 613.820.8887

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New Pictures... More to come Let's get lost in a Caribbean getaway right here in Ottawa... Hi my name is Rose, I'm 21, I stand at 5"4, 130 Lbs, with curves of an Ebony Goddess. I have small delicate hands that are able to find there way into dangerous places. Sit back and relax while I perform my exotic strip tease, then we proceed to the shower..... & then allow my hands to explore your body and release any tension you have built up inside... Back from Vacation!! Availability Monday July 15 10-4 Tuesday July 16 3-10 Wednesday July 17 10-4 Thursday July 18 3-10 Friday July 19 10-4 Saturday 20 12-8 Early Bird & Night Owl Appreciation Week!! 50% off all room fees from 10am-12pm for all you early birds!! & 50% off all room fees from 8pm-10pm for all you night owls!! For more information about me or my location email [email protected] Or Call 343-882-6804 (PLEASE DONT TXT) Or Call Vibe Spa directly to book appointment 613-680-8059 (PLEASE DONT TXT) Check out my recommendation http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=129893 Hope to see you soon...

I am young and I am positive. I have silky tanned skin with all the curves at the right places and a pretty face. I have been described as a bubbly and warm personnality that can manage easily a conversation. I love my profession and I care about people that I see, which brings our moment to the greatest level. I stand 5'3, 110 lbs, 34 D Beautiful and clean young woman with long dark hair to play with... I'm always dressed sexy and I look, feel, smell and taste great. I provide a sensual, sweet & clean incall environment. I provide an unrushed service and very open-minded let me treat and pamper you..... Sensual Erotic Massage 30 Minutes $40 45 Minutes $50 60 Minutes $70 For an appointment please contact me Angela at 613-712-8822 I'm available Monday to Saturday 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM Recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...?ltr=A&t=66370

Hello Gentlemen, My name is Sasha, I'm a young fit MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic GFE massage will relieve your tension while I provide you with sexy teasing fun that will lead to an explosion of heavenly pleasure, just tell me what your into. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, dark hair, golden tan, juicy round bum, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes and very open minded fun and comfortable to be with. Join me for some hot steamy fun 613-614-2117 schedule: Today (Monday) 9am-9pm Tuesday 9am-9pm Wednesday 3pm-11pm Saturday 9am-9pm Sunday 10am-9pm -Sasha xoxo

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Wonder how many remember this song by Juice Newton - Angel of the morning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8dVY-p_lE0

oday is a great day to enjoy a relaxing yet sensual and steamy massage! I am 5'4, big blue eyes, short dark hair and curvy with tattoos that compliment my body in all the right places!! I will provide you with a sensual massage to get you started. I will follow up with a sexy body slide that will have you wanting more! Satisfying for the eyes and the body!! Then I will let the bubbles lead the trail for my fingers in the shower!! Duos couples body slides showers reverse massage foot fetishes I am here today to heighten you senses today from 3:30PM to 11:00PM at Angel's Touch 613-274-7073 or Private Message to book My Schedule for The week of July 8 to July 14: Monday July 8 From 3:30PM - 11:00PM Tuesday July 9 From 10:00AM - 4:00PM Wednesday July 10 From 3:30PM - 11:00PM Saturday July 11 From 10:00AM - 4:00PM Sunday July 14 From 3:30PM - 9:00PM Look forward to seeing you http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=6518

not sure if this qualifies as driving me nuts but why oh why does my dog jump or step on my nuts when I'm dozing off on the couch. thank god its a small dog but still a rude wake up call. on that note if learned not to allow them on my lap when chewing a toy, that f...ing hurts.

Would Definitely Love To Join!

It looks like reality can easily be confused with perceived bitchiness when one doesn't understand the concept and meaning of respect and when the facts, observations and comments do not reinforce someone's tasteless behavior. So, which one is it? She had a huge mess to clean or you minimized your mess by releasing yourself in a towel? Either way, the answer is not important as the main points are being ignored; 1) there is a time and place for everything -- no matter how horny you feel and need that release 2) your behavior towards the RTM (registered massage therapist-not to be confused with an MA) was absolutely disrespectful no matter how you look at it or try to justify it. If that makes me bitchy for saying so, so be it. I guess I have a low tolerance level for arrogant indifference, nonsense and idiocy...

I will be there!

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Did a tin eye search, 25 matched from something called salespider from Virginia mostly...

It's a fine line, and one that sometimes get blurred. We know that many of the ladies have over a long period of time, made it clear that their rates are non-negotiable, and I certainly have no problem with that. However, is it surprising or shocking that people try to negotiate regards? It shouldn't be. I can think of some good examples that might cause confusion. One being is that a lady offers a special today, and tomorrow, when it is not offered, it is asked for. "I couldn't make it yesterday, but are you still offering the same deal today?". Anyway, I respect the ladies' decisions to say their rates are non-negotiable, but at the same time, I understand why they are getting asked to consider otherwise. If you aren't prepared to negotiate, it should be easy to respond to those question, just tell them your rates are your rates. If that doesn't stop them, now to me that is when they have clearly crossed the line and should have moved on.

Thanks Spud for the mention :) .... At 5'11" and 130lbs I am tall and slim..... My Fav article of clothing lay on the floor beside yours.... Please feel free to check out my profile http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=76755 and Reco's http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111731 Kisses xox

I know people that will negotiate all services. What I find amusing is they feel that they got a "deal" to begin with and then complain when they didn't get all that they wanted or needed. Negotiating multi-hour rates like a court case or a custom built house is one thing, taking 5-10% off $100 000 still leaves a viable cash flow and small excess can be trimmed where needed to accommodate the discount. Asking me to take a 40% pay cut on my fee that has not increased in 9 years for a luxury service is simply arrogant and insulting. Pussy is not a poor mans hobby and if a man needs a discount because he genuinely doesn't have it in his pocket then he should realize that he genuinely CAN'T AFFORD to be hobbying and needs to get his financial house in order... cat

First of all, it is RMT - not RTM. RMT means REGISTERED Massage Therapy. In order to be an RMT, they must follow among other things, a code of ethics, code of practices, carry liability insurance and other issues. One of the code of practices states: Client to be draped, so that the client's genitalia or gluteal cleft are not exposed. According to the code of ethics, they must being alert to and reporting, as required, any unethical practice by any member of MTAM; reporting to appropriate authorities any health care practitioner who abuses a client physically, verbally, sexually or financially; I could easily be an RMT, however, I choose not to, as I would not be able to provide services other then massage therapy. If you want to use your health coverage to pay for massage therapy, that is what you will get. However, if you want anything extra and have your health provider pay for your happy ending, you will most likely get charged with fraud and possibly sexual assault. When I go to my doctor for a pap test, and I asked if he could also give me a fuck at the same time (after all, my legs are open, and he just has to insert his penis inside me), he would be drummed out of physicians college for this. There is no difference in getting an RMT to do this then getting my gyno to give me a happy ending - after all, my medical coverage should pay for this - right? Please, don't try to get RMT's to give you a happy ending and get your health coverage to pay for this. The RMT would consider this sexual assault, and most likely report you to the police for trying. If you want anything extra, find a provider that gives this service. And of course, your health coverage should not have to pay for this - this is something you have to pay for.

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I find that oftentimes when I sit down to start a post on CERB its often an emotional post. So here it is... Sometimes like the rest of the amazing SP's here, my positivity slips. I am nothing short of human, and sometimes the scales of balance of me and Jade are no where near equal. Sometimes my alter ego is the stronger of the two, able to give and receive pleasure and drown in that, and it feels so good, other times, my life slips in and every emotion flashes on Jade's face. Be it worry or sadness. Other times we are balanced perfectly. And happiness shines on both of our faces. I often wonder if people realize the life of an SP requires 2 lives to balance in one mind and one body. The joys, the triumphs, the worries, the laughter , the ups, the downs, To please. All of the things we experience in our personal lives, often we experience at the same time different ups and downs that affect our alter egos. I can only speak for myself when I say that no matter how hard you try, our lives within ourselves cross paths. Good and bad. Both have benefits to the other as well, I am naturally sensual, I LOVE skin, the feel of it, the smell, the texture, Long slow kisses and seduction, that benefits Jade, as does my easygoing nature and ability to talk to people and make them feel comfortable. To please. She has taught me that everyone has a story, and not just to listen, but truly hear. To be stronger, to draw my own line as to whats acceptable behavior, she's ironically taught me self respect. I'm not sure why I started this post, perhaps because I find with so much going on in my life, I feel as though right now the scales of balance are tipped and find my emotions flashing clearly on Jade's face. Try as I might to avoid that, it reminds me that Im two people in one body, today the paths have crossed and that its ok to be gentle with both, after all I might be two people, but they are both human. And ultimately because it always does. The balance will return. Thoughts for the day. J xoxo

I admit I think I live in a bit of a cloud when it comes to this. I get tested every two months, and assume everyone knows that, and I also assume my clients get tested (although not as regularly). I completely assume that because of my reputation on here, clients will know I am a responsible, smart, healthy provider, and therefore, of course I get tested, and only engage in covered intercourse. If someone tells me they want to book, but first want to know if I'm 'clean', or 'do you get tested', I can sometimes take offence to that. I once said to someone 'I wouldn't advertise on here if I was selling dirty sex, and I would never ask a client when he'd last been tested', or something like that. I admit that was an over-reaction, but... well, it WAS my reaction. I do think it's something people should be able to talk about on here, but my advice is be careful if approaching a provider before an encounter. I know I'm not the only one who can have, and has had, the above reaction to that question. We work hard to show you who we are, and we work hard to provide our clients with safe and professional service. Sexual health is of the utmost importance - so we can get offended if you question that. We are human. Now, I know some gentlemen may think 'What's the big deal, we should be able to ask that'. But the only answer I can give is... well that was my honest reaction to that question. Overreaction? Maybe. But honest reaction? Yes.

I think another question that begs to be asked is what if you do catch something? As a SP do you tell your previous clients so they can get checked and as a hobbyist do you tell the SP's you've been with? I think it is great that people get checked (as I do) but the harder part is if someone catches something as I would imagine being an SP and revealing that to a previous client could perhaps destroy their chances of continuing to be a SP? It is a touchy subject, but yet, I think the proper thing to do would to let people know if you contracted something.

I go to the sexual health clinic about every 6 months. I like to post when I go on my profile page. I think it is a good way to promote it and to let all the women I spend time with know I care about myself and about them.

Yes, I was just tested as recently as a week ago. My health is very important to me, and should be to everyone who plays.

I love this pic of Cleo's as well. The lighting is soft and sensual, you can subtly see her ink but the pic leaves you longing to see more of what lays beyond the shadows.

Headstones - Long Way To Neverland - from their SPECTACULAR comeback album, Love and Fury - No frills, No fancy stuff...just some good ol' fuckin' rock and roll! :D

Some things transcend the monetary donation. As Meaghan put it hygiene and how you behave with the lady plays more of a factor than how many dollars you have with YMMV. Would you like to kiss someone with bad breath for example, probably not irrespective of how much you get paid So be the best client you can be, good hygiene, fresh breath, a gentleman, that should help with YMMV. And while having extra bucks doesn't help with YMMV, make sure you pay the lady her donation in full. As for MSOG no real advice since encounters for me are more about companionship. One SOG and I'm happy RG

It's extremely unlikely that the federal government will attempt to make prostitution illegal if the SCC rules in favour of decriminalization. Prostitution is not a big issue in Canada and never has been. In poll after poll, most Canadians surveyed do not express any interest in making it illegal for someone to be a prostitute. As a fair-minded country, Canadians aren't interested in criminalizing men who see prostitutes but don't cause any problems for them or for others in their neighbourhood. It would be MUCH easier to enact prohibitive legislation if there had been a recent case that the government could cite as a reasonable demonstration of how dangerous and harmful prostitution is and show that it needs to be severely curtailed. But there simply isn't a case like that. The Picton murders and subsequent inquiry demonstrated the vulnerability of street-based sex workers and highlighted the insecurity of sex workers in general. Public opinion consistently lies in favour of protecting vulnerable groups rather than outlawing them. And yes, I know that public opinion can be fickle, but let's also remember that the present federal government is more responsive to poll results than any other in recent history. The other thing to keep in mind at all times is that criminalization will require increasing police attention and court time to address prostitution-related crimes. In most jurisdictions, there simply isn't enough money, let alone political will, when it comes to expanding the police force unnecessarily. Conflicts related to prostitution are frequently viewed as inter-personal, with one person claiming to have been badly treated by another. This kind of problem never gets a great deal of attention from the police or the public unless there's significant violence or someone dies. Our courts are already overloaded. In some jurisdictions, people who have been charged with violent crimes have been allowed to walk free because it wasn't possible to bring them to trial in a timely manner. Is there much political will to expand the number of judges and generally increase court times and services in order to prosecute prostitutes and their clients? It's doubtful, particularly since the great majority of us work without anyone's notice. Even though we're easy to find if someone wants our companionship, we're not usually easy to notice in other ways. Canadians are more concerned about things like human trafficking and the sexual exploitation of children and minors--rightly so! Ultimately, the big question is whether criminalizing prostitution will make it go away. The answer is no, of course not. We're not called "the oldest profession" for nothing. Ours is a capitalist economy. If prostitution were to be criminalized, expect to pay higher fees and to have to provide significantly more verifiable personal information if you want to see a professional companion. We'll still be working.

LOL, you pay the bill and I will show up! ;)

Hi there everyone, First of all I would like to say thank you for all of your kind words. It is the men like you that make us love what we do as SPs. I do want to clear a couple things up though... 1. I know that it has been said that I offer BBFs. This is not a service that I provide (no exceptions) so please dont ask. I also dont swallow (sorry guys). 2. I definitely apologize if I have ever kept anyone waiting. Being fairly new at this it took me a while to figure out the business aspect including scheduling. I will only see a couple of gentlemen in an incall day so often my excellent clients are made to wait until the next incall. For that I apologize as well. 3. I do feel bad for the fact that I AM fairly hard to get a hold of sometimes. I generally do most of my bookings online as my phone was constantly ringing from morning to night with fake calls and texts. Through emails we can kind of get a feel for one another better than a 2 minute conversation. 4. I have been asked why I dont work on the weekends...I do. I will work any day a gentleman needs me, I just pre-book all weekend sessions. SPs have a very different schedule. We are on call at most times. Pre-booking weekends is just a way to have a social life along with working. I hope I have cleared a few things up. Thanks for taking the time to read my post. And again, to all of you men who love to have a good time while treating a lady right, I applaud you and thank you. And to all of my regular gentlemen a special thank you for helping to make this experience a great one for me I only hope I am returning the favor.

Of course I've fallen for that one. Was at an Irish Pub with me da, and this guy who used to be part of the Queen's army (they are from the North, we are from the south, so kinda mortal enemies), said he would bet me $5 that he could touch my boobs without using his hands. Took the bet, and of course he grabbed my boobs. Said "best $5 I've ever spent". I of course slugged him and replied "Love it when the traitors of Ireland pay me $5 to punch them" . Everyone in the bar roared with laughter cause this guy was seriously an idiot. Got a few rounds of drinks after that from everyone.

Yeah I believe in love...I think the problem with high divorce rates is that our culture has become a very disposable one...in the sense that EVERYTHING is disposable. Whether it be a cell phone, a kitchen appliance or a relationship. Once upon a time, when something started showing signs of wear and tear, say, a VCR or something, we didn't automatically kick it to the curb and go out and buy a new one. We would open it up and tinker around with the insides and try to find the problem, often getting a shock, slicing our finger open, and cursing all the while, literally putting our blood, sweat and tears into it....but once it started working again, the feeling of reward and satisfaction was that much greater for the work we put into it. Or, worst case scenario, if we couldn't fix it ourselves we'd take it out and pay to have a professional repair it (read: tv repairman/marriage counselor). And only as a very last result would we even consider going out and buying a new one. This is not the case anymore, I think we've gotten it into our mind that everything is so easily disposable and replaceable, and whether it be consciously or subconsciously, this somehow includes relationships too. I'm not being holier than thou, I'm guilty of this too. I've never been married but I think every relationship I've been in, has ended too easily without putting up much of a fight, neither one of us made the necessary efforts needed to keep things going. Once things started getting boring or stale, we abandoned ship. The problems marriages/long term relationships encounter today are the exact same problems which were encountered 20, 30, 50, 100 years ago. The love felt today between two people is no less powerful than it was by two people in the past. The difference is now, in our culture today, no one is willing to put the necessary work into making something work. We just go on ebay and find a new one, often at what we perceive to be a better price. At least that's how I see it.