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Just a post of thanks to the ladies of CERB. Maybe you don't hear it enough, but you provide a very unique and special service, one that does not compare to any other business or service or should be compared to any other business or service. You allow us men an escape, companionship, intimacy and in some cases friendship with no strings attached. You do require a donation, but the value of this escape has an intangible value far exceeding any donation you have asked for. Speaking for myself, you should know you are respected and appreciated And for the escapes and companionship you have provided, thank you RG

I thought this thread was missing kittens and bums. I don't feel bad for hijacking it.

This thread seems to have morphed into a discussion of marketing strategy and more specifically pricing strategy. There are numerous pricing strategies that a business can adopt. Some of them have relevance to this industry, most don't. Selling "Price" If what you are "selling" is "price", it is difficult to be successful in any business. In general you're likely to attract clients who place more importance on low price and less importance on the quality of the service or product. As a result, those clients will generally be on the lookout for a "better" (i.e. lower) price. It makes customer retention difficult and encourages a race to the bottom of the market. Furthermore, in this industry, when a woman has to raise her rates (which has to happen sometime, even though it hasn't happened overall in the industry in quite a while), the client will likely go elsewhere. So if you've reduced prices and therefore your revenue and you don't have any significant cost cutting options to offset the reduced revenue, what do you do? The standard "marketing" response to this situation would be to increase the volume of sales. That's not so easily done in this industry for obvious reasons. Several women in this and other threads have described the unique challenges of being a service provider while maintaining their physical/emotional health and privacy etc. In addition, screening clients has been discussed on numerous occasions as a necessary step for personal safety and security. The higher the volume, the less time there is to do this properly and the greater the risks to the service provider. I think some are arguing that any customers receiving a price cut don't represent revenue loss, they represent new revenue from new customers the service provider wouldn't otherwise have. That's only correct if the service provider wants to increase the number of clients she sees in a day/week. Most commenting on this thread appear to be low volume service providers (whatever that number might be) and prefer to find other ways of optimizing their revenue (e.g. longer appointments, more frequent repeat clients or unique date activities). The whole idea behind the Girl Friend Experience for example is to provide intellectual and emotional interaction with the client that goes beyond just the sexual activity. Many clients place a substantial value on this. What Does Success Look Like? So what does success in a small business look like? The business is sustainable, with good customer retention (loyal regular/occasional customers). The business owner has good control over the costs relative to their revenues. And finally, there has to be sufficient profit to live comfortably. This includes a work life balance allowing sufficient time/money to enjoy recreation, family, friends and save for long term goals (e.g. go to school, start another business etc). Yes, I understand that not everyone is able to achieve all of this in life. It's been noted in previous threads that there is a high turnover of service providers in this industry. Most last only a few months to a couple of years. Most of the women who have posted on this thread however have been in this business for several years. Without knowing all of them personally, they appear by my definition to be successful. In part, though not exclusively, their success appears to be due to sticking with their pricing strategy and understanding who they seek as customers. It also appears to be based upon understanding their clients and being able to add value through services such as GFE. I think they are just trying to communicate an appreciation of that. This forum is unique in that the curtain is drawn back and allows clients to gain some insider appreciation of "the business". I think all business relationships are enhanced when clients have some appreciation of what it takes to achieve and sustain a successful business.

Thank you very much for pointing out the difference. I am a graduate of massage therapy but I do not represent myself as a RMT. It has taken the massage therapy boards, HCPs & RMTs many years and to be recognize as a health care profession. I respect that and if I were working as a RMT, I would never cross that line...no matter who you are.If there are RMTs out there offering happy endings....then they are not only disrespecting their position as a HCP but also the HCPs of their dustry, their clients and to themselves.

True story! :) It is certainly not entirely uncommon! Some guys even apologize and say "It's not you...". LOL of course it's not ME... I'm a sexy bitch!! ;) hehehe ... Seriously though, I completely understand the frustration, but it's not the end of the world, and it shouldn't make you feel less about yourself, or your time together. It happens. Things don't always go exactly as you planned. There was once a time several years ago when I could not achieve an orgasm from DATY!! Can you fucking believe that! Eventually after lots of practice, it happened. I discovered that it truly was a mental barrier because after it happened just once, and I realized that it actually was possible, it happened all the time :) And now it's my favourite way to cum, and gives me the best orgasms. So I predict that eventually you will overcome this some way or another, but in the meantime I agree with the suggestions mentioned. There is nothing wrong with a manual finish. Add in some dirty talk and encouragement from an enthusiastic partner, and you're golden. I don't think that anyone would or should feel any kind of disappointment by finishing off a streamy session stroking off your hard cock to an explosive orgasm all over my pretty little face and tits ;) Yum.

Sometimes nice pics are just that... Nice pictures from the internet ;) Have you tried using www.tineye.com ? It will show you how many times the pictures have been used, by who, where and with a little research, you will see who they belong to.

Pretty much been covered by RG's and prior posts so a quick comment. Thanks girls...... You are awesome !! Big Big thanks for .......... when I get a rare chance to break away from the "hectic life" you make my life a much much happier world than it is or was prior to getting to know you ..... ! Thx again for many fond memories.....and I don't believe I am done yet working on the memories !! ;) Oh behave ......

This year, I have had a chance to meet more of the women of CERB in person. I have also chatted with many new women in the chat room and have made a lot of new chat friends. I have gotten to know several of you women fairly well as you have shared with me information about your personal lives. Each of the girls that I have met this year has provided me with experiences that exceeded my expectations. I used to be a shy nervous guy when I first started, and am now a confident man when I meet a new woman :). I enjoy the time that I spend with you women, and thank you for treating me with kindness and love. I have made some special connections with some of you and appreciate the friendships that have been given to me. I've enjoyed the showers, the kissing, the cuddling and the massaging. Most of all the chatting and the mutual erotic pleasures shared. Cerb women are beautiful and sexy and love what they do. Thanks to all the women I have already met, and I will see some you again. Thanks to all the women I have chatted with and I hope to meet you one day. You girls are all great and you girls Rock :) Much love to all of you . xoxoxoxoxoxox

I agree with Emily J. It's not at all uncommon, and sometimes it's just a matter of trying various things and getting over a mental "block". I know prostate massage helped someone in my personal life- he'd never tried it before but once I did it he loved it :) It was the only thing that could guarantee an orgasm ;) I also had the same problem as Empty83- I was once on medication and received the best oral EVER, but couldn't cum. Not her fault, it felt amazing, the medication just made things very difficult. Typically I've found it very difficult to cum just from rubbing when someone else is doing it, but recently I had someone do it and bam! Orgasm! I just relaxed and let things happen, I didn't try to pressure myself into making it happen. I think what helped is exactly what Emily J said- believing it was possible. I just decided that it was possible that it may happen, even though it never had before. Don't put too much pressure on yourself, try to relax, and experiment some more :)

I believe in total satisfaction for both. I have met many friends that have trouble with " the finish". My motto is short and sweet, what ever it takes . Need a little encouragement in the way of dirty talk or whatever you think may be a tad alternative? In my mind there is nothing alternative, only happy satisfied people. Don't we all deserve this ? I say yes!!! My only rule in life is no hurting each other except by mutual consent and with all due respect. Love, love,love.

YOU see NOW why EAST coast ladies simply "ROCK" it is in their "blood",it is in their "nature",it is in their "personality" and it is in their "demeanour" I only wish I could of made it out East with you wonderful ladies, you are simply fantastic ! Much success to the social, and much love to ladies out East! Xoxox And yes I hope all is well with Lexy too!

I've been seeing RMTs for 15 years, a few different ones, and this happens all the time, guys get turned on an the inevitable happens. Its worse when you're on your back and make a tent with your sheet. She will not freak out and call the cops, lmao, unless you do something stupid like whip the sheets off or offer her money! If you are enjoying this particular therapist, then continue to see her/him and don't feel embarrassed by what is a natural human reaction.

A heated debate is fine, a topic like this brings lots of emotion out of people. Calling it stupid and a train wreck and commenting like it is a all out war does not add value to the thread. In the past I would close threads when they got heated to the point some people started name calling or trolling. I (and many others) feel this is a topic that needs to be discussed and it helps educate people. Many guys do not realize how offensive many ladies find it when they try to negotiate rates. This thread will help educate those who don't know (and I know some guys won't care and will continue to do this but if they did not know before at least they will know now) Now I do not approve of hijacking threads (KITTEN/BUM) photo but I will let the one go for now as it was to lighten up the atmosphere but please on serious discussions lets keep that off too please.

Leather. It feels so nice and I feel so sexy in it. xoxo

RG, as usual you are a man of class and a great example of how clients should view their experiences with the wonderful ladies of CERB. Thanks for taking the lead in expressing the sentiments of a whole group of clients who try to hold themselves to a higher standard for the betterment of everyone in this industry. Ladies, I whole heartedly express my thanks as well. There might be those out there that might roll their eyes and mouth the words "ass kisser", however as I've been fortunate enough in my short time on CERB to lay my lips on some very fine bottoms of you ladies I'll be the first to admit, "I love kissing ass". Stay strong, beautiful, unique and awesome ladies. Kisses from Chuck

God I swore I was done with this but you in fact hit the nail on the head whether you knew it or not, and why I'm opposed to negotiating. Negotiating, well really haggling is for the man (not gentleman) his way of getting something from the lady at less than her rate. Yes maybe he is happy...really f**kin good for him, because it was taking from the lady at her expense. I wonder how she feels during and after the encounter, probably not happy at all. The lady in all likelihood was in a financial situation where she had to accept or maybe run the risk of no income. It is unfortunate but true, many ladies may be in this lifestyle paycheque to paycheque as it were, and the loss of just one encounter may mean unable to pay the rent, put food on the table pay the car payment etc. To me negotiation, well haggling just preys on a lady when she is at her weakest, just so a man can get gratified. Ladies provide a wonderful service, companionship, intimacy, sometimes friendship, and it requires of them to give themselves up body, mind and soul. It has an intangible value exceeding the rate requested. With the bonus of discretion and no strings attached. To haggle her price when she provides such a gift, yes gift, frankly I find offensive I don't expect to change any hagglers minds, but to those who are reading, keep in mind that haggling becomes a zero sum game...that whatever a man gains from haggling, is done at a ladies loss. Instead this lifestyle should be mutually beneficial, for both the lady and gentleman I'm now out RG

I miss her too. And I'm happy for her at the same time. She reminds me of the Squirrel from Hoodwinked when she's had her morning coffee.

I know there must be a bit on here about this but i cant find it at all! Im a new member and want to post a recomendation about an SP i have just seen. How can i go about this? Any ideas! Many thanks in advance Phil

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I have been trying to reach her as well and I'm worried.

I have to say this is the best season yet when Jeremy went home I think I jumped out of my seat lol not a good move on elissas part giving up playing for veto next week but who knows expect the unexpected right lol and I definitely cannot wait for that little b**** Arynn to go home :-D

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Well, it is not complicated and a reason exists for these qualification steps. The reason is that it stops most SHILL (Fake recommendations) being made. If we did not have this step the site could be (and would be) easily abused and the credibility of the recommendations goes downhill. so.... 1) Commenting on profiles does not count as a "POST" you need to comment on a public thread (Discussion). Join in a few conversations, contribute a little, let others see what you are all about as no one here will believe your recommendation without some substantial post history anyway. 2) Once you have 5 posts and have been a member for 5 days you can post a NEW recommendation for a lady who does not have one already. Other stuff opens up on the site when you contribute more as well (like elite member status opens the doors to some new threads here that standard members can not see but you need to earn those privileges by contributions) would you believe a recommendation from a new member with no post history? To me if it was the only thing that member posted I would just assume it was a SHILL post from the lady trying to stir up business or even a agent/friend/boyfriend/pimp/etc... the recommendations must be genuine and when you make it a little more difficult to just simply open a new account and post one it discourages a lot of this sort of undermined fake posting.

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I never noticed before, but come to think of it; my orgasm face (O face) looks just like my mid-sneeze face. If it ever got stuck I would frighten small animals and children.

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@lipualipua..... LOL, Don't go losing faith in humanity yet. :) You chose to stick your neck out and promote a perspective that's extremely unpopular on a very emotionally charged topic. You were bound to get beat up on. You get points for using the word "pontificate" though. Additional Comments: Now my thoughts on the issue of "excessive" rates. There is no such thing as an excessive rate for a luxury like we are discussing. A ladies rates are just simply her rates. Because one can't afford her rates does not make them excessive, it just simply means that one can't afford them. What she chooses to charge for her time is determined only by that specific lady and what business model she happens to decide works for her life situation. Perhaps she prefers just one or two clients per week at a high rate as opposed to 10 at a lower rate. I would not dispute either model as it's only for her to determine. Could the higher priced lady potentially make more money by dropping her rates and seeing more clients? Yes, perhaps but as cyclo referred to she may have a life situation that dictates that she doesn't have the time or even the emotional ability to be a higher volume provider. Just a thought from Chuck.

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@meaghanmcleod ; you wrote : ........"no choice but to take that low ball call, because they are desperate enough to see you." Who or what gives you the right to characterize someone going about her business the way she sees fit as desperate? Please do not disrespect your fellow providers. As regard your additional comment, yes, I, the buyer of a service or a product get to decide whether the price is excessive based on certain factors like cost of similar products/services.

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RG, everything you say is absolutely true about a haggler trying to make what really amounts to a trivial monetary gain for himself from a lady at perhaps a vulnerable moment in time. Thankfully there are many gentleman out there who realise this and have enough class, and respect for the wonderful women we have the privilege of knowing try to defend the cause. I realise that men like you and I hold all of the ladies we know with a great deal of importance for the pleasure of the companionship (even friendship) they bring to our lives. So I understand why you choose to fight so hard against apparent disrespect for our friends and their livelihoods. Sadly, there are those "boys" among us that consider the SP's they visit as nothing more than the next cum shot. I have chosen to stay away from this thread beyond my first post because like you I have very strong feelings on this matter that would in all likelihood get me booted off CERB for expressing my real feelings on this matter. I have to agree with Miss Laurence I think you're wasting your valuable time trying to convert those wayward boys to see the ladies many of whom we consider our friends as something more than an object for their use. At this point you're only helping the one trick pony Craigyboy build up his post count. Let it go RG and send some of your friends a thank you for putting up with the bad ones out there so that we can continue to experience the joy they bring to our lives. Cheers from a surprisingly calm Chuck. As an after thought I decided to add this because there does seem to be a lack of understanding by some of the proponents for Negotiating/Haggling as to why many gentleman and ladies here seem to so vehemently defend our CERB ladies and friends on this issue. You see as a "rule", our Cerb community is one based deeply on respect and a mutual admiration that has built over time. There are many reasons why this has happened however this "Happy Hobbiest" post by Old Dog is a reflection of many of the relationships that have been built here over time. Some relationships going well beyond the physical interaction of clients and SP's to a level of friendship of sorts. If you read this thread you'll get a small glimpse of why some seem to attack you so harshly when it might be seen that you as a negotiator/haggler may not be applying what we deem to be sufficient levels of respect to those we may care about. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=436687&highlight=heart+attack#post436687

I even left a key at the front desk once for a long time regular , so he slip in :Cunning:and woke me up .

Annoyingly, I couldn't reply directly to this, so here's a picture. I don't care if my views are challenged. I welcome it. But Phaedrus, I do not appreciate words being put into my mouth as you did here. Nntsci's claim on not bargaining for anything under the sky seemed a bit surprising to me. It was not a major consideration to even warrant a post and prolong this thread even further, so I left a rep comment thing. To draw from that and imply that I meant to compare SPs and cars was in poor taste and presumptious. I was about to let it go till I read you doing something similar again here. Again you've taken the words out of context and done a simple 'SP to something else' comparison to prove a point. She could've used anything to make her case; it's the act of politely telling a client once again what the prices are when asked that she was trying to convey. I can't speak for all SPs, but here is one example of someone who doesn't seem to mind that question. To shut her down like that was imho, a bit rude. I'm sorry if this will derail the thread, but I will not have words put into my mouth, especially when it is something offensive like this.

Replying to a bunch of stuff from the last couple of days... You've stated your point of view, yes, but my question remains... Not a dirty word, perhaps (more on this below), but nevertheless a counterproductive one. Again: it's just not worth it. Right. And I'm arguing that any attempt to haggle is stupid and counter-productive in the long run, even if you do get lucky on occasion. Kinda like playing the lottery, but the odds are even worse. So, yes, I'm happy to concede that we all have the freedom to shoot ourselves in the foot if we feel so inclined. What I'm getting at, for the benefit of folks new to this (since this thread is in the "New To This" forum) is that shooting yourself in the foot is a really bad idea. And also, stupid. And yes, perhaps you do deserve to be ridiculed if you try it, having read this thread... Or ignorant of what they're missing out on, perhaps. May I suggest you go back and read cyclo's excellent post on the difference between haggling and negotiation? Although you keep talking about "negotiation", that seems inaccurate. What you advocate is haggling: you're trying to get a simple one-time discount, rather than there being any genuine give-and-take. Or if you disagree with that characterization of your position, perhaps you'd care to tell us: when you ask for a discount on a SP's rate, what do you offer in exchange? If you truly negotiate, you won't find that question hard to answer - and I'm sure I'm not the only person who'd be interested to know what that answer is. And while you may not think "negotiation" may not be a dirty word... can you say the same of "haggling"? Two things to say to this. First: if they began haggling, that's their right. It doesn't mean it's a good tactic for you to do so if they don't. Second: as I've asked previously, do you really think you got the same service for your reduced rate? If you do, please explain why... It's not that anyone wants to... it's just that some of us consider some ladies to be worth the effort. If you're that desperate, I suspect a lady with six pages of etiquette guidelines is unlikely to take last-minute appointments and you'd be better off calling someone else :) Still, I may be wrong... True, but I think most SPs would not be flattered by the comparison to McDonalds. But if you're OK with it... you said it, not me. I think you're dead right on this... and really, that's the audience most of us are aiming at. We all know this debate is utterly dead to anyone who's likely to join one side of the other. The prize here is the influence on the silent masses; alas, none of us will ever know whether or not we've won it. A word to those people: if you never post, you will never persuade anyone of your point of view, and things will never change. Obvious, yes, but perhaps it needs saying... But as I said earlier, this is no longer about them. It's about the audience, who are largely silent. My motivation here is simply to get them to think about the pros and cons of haggling before they try it. My thoughts on that are that the odds are so far against you that trying it is simply stupid, and I'm really looking for someone - anyone - to provide some sort of counter to that. Nobody has, yet. Two things here. First, there are some ladies who are clearly sick to death of being haggled with. You may not be there, but I get the feeling others are... and that this thread was borne of exasperation rather than anything else. Secondly, there are quite a few of people who feel that the wannabe hagglers should be shot down. Some of those are the ladies who are sick of it; some of the others are guys who don't really like seeing the ladies who may be friends having to put up with that crap. I suspect you benefit from this, even if you don't wish to read it. Or go ahead and argue the toss, if the mood takes you. That, too, is the Internet. Now this, my friends, is a man who understands how the Internet works :) Unless, of course, your tastes run that way. And remember, too, that this is a circle-jerk with an audience :)

I am definitely in! Looking forward to seeing my cerbie friends.

You must be able to see the future. I wanted him to get it, once i saw the competition going and he was still in it to the end, it was pretty awesome. This way the two would go up that went up, he could be HOH and not really offend anyone with the nominations, as the two that went up weren't even surprised. The interesting twist is now that the MVP nomination is going to be done by the viewers, not the houseguests. The more interesting part of that is that many of the viewers didn't realize they were voting for a nominee, but thought they were voting for someone to be MVP. I have no idea who is going to get the 2nd most votes (the mvp nominee won the veto so will come down), but i have a feeling it is not going to be an unpopular houseguest so their attempts to back door someone like Howie is not going to happen. They will end up evicting one of the two HOH nominees just because they won't want the 3rd to go at all. Maybe by next week when the viewers realize fully what they did, an America votes nominee twist will actually work and America's eviction choice will go up instead of their MVP choice lol. trying to talk about stuff availabe by After Dark or the live feeds without spoiling it for those who don't read ahead to the end like us lol

It seems to me that the newbies only want us to give to them without them giving anything in return. They don't even want to read what has already been posted but just start off with their childish cries of "someone PM me with all the information I'm too lazy to read about myself" When they don't get the information they then cry " I am special and entitled so now I am going to have a childish rant until someone gives me what I am demanding." How about trying this for once you FNGs. Read the forum, call someone well regarded. Post a recommendation on one of our favourite ladies out there. Then make a couple thoughtful comments on what is available and the scene. Show some respect for those of us who have invested a lot of time and money learning our way around the Winnipeg scene and to have established relationships with the wonderful ladies out there, several of whom are regulars here as well. Then ask some questions. Send us PM's asking a question not just a general PM me with the information. There are several new guys who followed this path and are now respected members of this board and get to share in the information that is available. ( I know because that is what I did. I have also helped others who followed this path to become trusted members of the site.) Get it ....share... not ...demand that we spoon feed you... then cry when we don't.

As someone who has experienced both, I must say there is a huge difference in service and atmosphere. when I see an RMT it is for relieving tense muscle and aches due to stress or physically abusing myself with laboursome work. I often come out even more sore than when I came in but the mobility is gained. Its very professional done and I cannot understand how someone could get confused or just ignorant and behave in a sexual manor when there is nothing sexual about it. now when attending a spa who provides this sexual encounter it may have a lot of therapeutic effects but (no offence to the ladies) the massage is not the same. yes its relaxing and loosens the muscle a bit but not nearly as much as an RMT. however they sure know how to make me rise if you know what I mean. I guess what I'm trying to say is they provide two separate services and one should never be confused by the other. I think some people may of watched one too many porn movies. It is sad to say but perhaps RMT may need to voice record their session in order to protect themselves. This could even be used as evidence when some horny prick decide to sexually assault by make this types of propositions. great point cyclo!

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I know the economy isn't the best but this is pretty sad. If you can't afford the rate of a real woman you should stick to drunk chicks at the club or something.

Usually I do not allow address's posted (i ask that that info be PM'd) but in this case I think it may be best to keep it up as they obviously are using fake photos and fake names it's easy to change a phone number but at least this gives you all a better heads up. I hate bait and switch and crappy scams like this.

Now that I've had some time to think more. Cleo Catra has interesting ad's, they caught my attention and convinced me to see her :) Tiffanyxxxooo has always interesting headlines, that make me want to read the rest of the ad's. Sasha - the german, has funny jokes and sometimes puzzles. Midnite-Massage - interesting sexy Titles.