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https://medium.com/boinkology-101/98e69aae5ea2 You all might find this article interesting, discussing the false dichotomy that the "porn sex vs real sex" framing creates.

I don't know about the rest of you but this lifestyle has opened up a world of pleasure. Being able to explore some of my fantasy's is amazing but I've found explore the other persons fantasy's or letting them lead you in something you've never explored is even better. Being open to try new thing and explore different aspect of sexuality has opened door to worlds of pleasure where I never thought possible. It's one thing to please a woman, which is a huge turn on but, allowing the woman to do what she like, allow her to be more comfortable and familiar on how it works, which often leads to her ultimate pleasure which in my opinion has lead to my ultimate pleasures. I must admit my sex life prior was very plain, so for example I once met a lady who like to give prostate massages, was a little nervous at forts but OMG what a pleasure it brought. The lady was getting turned on and well myself I never felt better. I met another lady who enjoys anal which turned out to be something I myself fantasize about. Even some light bondage, which was interesting. Not being something that turn me on but knowing how much it turning on my partner well trust me the rewards were great. I've explored nuru which is very intimate, also the occasional laugh cause its so slippery. Even just watching two ladies pleasure each other is so hot. So whatever your kink may be, keep an open mind of others cause there is so much fun out there and exploring it has been great. Have your horizon been broaden, while in this lifestyle.

It has certainly expanded my mind in many ways. It has broadened my knowledge base with respect to women in a positive way. It has allowed me to explore my secret desires that otherwise would have gone undiscovered. I have met some very nice and interesting people along the way. I was raised in a very strict religious environment. Part of the journey for me has been leaving some pretty ridged and archaic moral values that were imposed upon me as a young man behind. I honestly think that in doing so, it has caused me to loosen up and be a more interesting, fun relaxed person!

Off course Claire is still around!,, no need to panic! She is a busy girl and cant come online all the time...as for the website if you are using claireheavens.com thats no longer working..,you should be looking at http://claireheavensinottawa.com Go catch her! :-)

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I list them and what you see is what you get with me. This has dramatically cut down on private messages and phone calls asking if I do this or that. When a person calls me, they have read all the info and ready to book. It's all listed there. Having been coy about this sort of thing in the past and not wanting to list it created more confusion and I'm not ashamed to list what I offer and what I don't offer.

For me, and speaking only for me, I do like to know what a lady's rate for an encounter is, to me that is reasonable I do understand that some gentlemen like to see a menu, a list of services that the lady provides is important to them. And I confess, when I was a newbie, that was my focus. But I met some remarkable ladies and realized seeing companions was much more than about sex. For me, an encounter is more, much more than the sum of the lady's services. It is about chemistry, how we click and so on. What is the most important part of a lady's website, for me at least, is the section usually titled "About Me" or something along those lines. If interested, her posts, emails and pm's give me further insight as to if we will click. Most of the ladies I see or will see don't have a menu on their website. But their websites give me a little glimpse into who they are and that is why I'm interested in meeting them. But they all tell me what the donation is for an encounter with them. To answer your question though, I wouldn't view listing services as a negative. There will be potential clients who are interest first and foremost in the services provided. Just for me, much more important is the connection/chemistry we will have...whether we will click is far more important. Hope that helps RG

I have often wondered the same thing. I have also wondered why the need was felt to call it "greek" when it already had a name(s) that weren't related to anyone's ethnicity. While I dislike the acronyms, I find when I use them people at least know what I'm talking about and it makes it easier to communicate a lot in a little space. If I don't use them, it seems like a lot of information jammed into one spot. I much prefer talking one on one about sexy stuff then reducing it to letters.

I think rates are a pertinent things to post. Otherwise a majority of first contacts will start with, "Hey, What are your rates?" As for services, many of the lovely ladies on here choose not to use labels or acronymns, but provide a brief description of an "encounter" without using specifics. I think thats a good route to go, with the finishing line being to contact the provider in order to discuss specifics privately. That develops communication right off the bat and clarifies anything that might be considered a grey area before meeting. Seems the smart way to go in my opinion :)

That is correct, your welcome to use the leave a comment icon to thank people for the info (it will not BUMP the thread and will give the guy some rep points rewarding him for the nice comment and info provided). I would encourage the use of this from both the ladies (as a thanks) and the other guys (who found value in what was added).

I like having the Rates posted, so that I know if it is within my budget. I like to know what is being offered or better yet what is off limits. as I do not want to offend the woman if I try something that she is not comfortable with. I do read their information and check out the web sites. The more details and photo's there are, the easier it is to make my decision. Sometimes It's a last minute decision to see someone, and I do not have time to text and wait for replies. So I may have a short list, and whoever happens to be free within my schedule, will probably be the one I see. As I ususally let lady luck determine who I see, and she has been good to me so far :)

I give a brief description of what my encounters entail, but not vivid details. As for acronyms, the only one I use is bbbj-because I do not provide such service. Unfortunately in this city-there is a very high amount of men that expect that from the get go since majority of sp ladies provide them, so I personally think it is a must to indicate your restrictions, not what you allow :) Some may say it does not matter, but until you are in a room with a man who expects this, and then becomes irritated by the fact that they did not know....well it is very awkward , uncomfortable and sometimes scary :(

First when I started out and the whole process was quite foreign to me I liked to see the list of "services" so I knew what to expect from what was an entirely new experience. So I think newbies may like to see the listing to help them understand what's in-store for them. Now with more experience (and the help of CERB), I don't really care about it as I'm much more comfortable chatting with companions about my preferences for my encounter. As a rule I have an understanding about what's "included" in my experience and if there happens to be any specific request that I might have that's outside "the norm" of typical services I just ask the companion about it. We're all adults, and if we're adult enough to do it then we should be adult enough to talk about it. However, if a companion has a specific service that she chooses not to offer (greek, BBBJ, etc) I think it would be easier to list the "don't do" services to avoid unnecessary contacts by clients looking for this service. Just my thoughts.

Ummm... I offer a quality service that you are asking for, take a look into my profile, see my website for detailed description and video to enjoy:) http://mssophiav.ca/ Miss Sophia V xoxo

And volunteer you have! Thank you, Cat!! :-) Hopefully, there will be some left that will find their way out of the social ... ;-)

Altho some may think I am biased, I'd be happy to volunteer for the judging! cat

haha!

I do like it when pricing is listed. It is definitely not the only factor in my decisions, but I like to have some idea what I'm getting into before I make contact. Asking her is always an option of course once you have decided you are interested, although choosing not to book after asking that question makes me feel... cheap. (Even if it is not the only reason I have decided not to book with her at this time.) Being able to find out for myself without having to bother her is definitely my preference. As far as a list of services goes, this is not so important to me. One thing I do often look for is whether or not kissing is on the menu. Not a deal breaker, as I can have fun without, but is something that adds to the intimacy and overall experience for me. As for listing other things, I rarely go through the list of acronyms. My needs are pretty simple I guess. I personally always look for a web site to get as much info as I can without having to ask. I read as much as I can so I can decide if I'm interested before I waste her time with questions.

Hello my pervs and welcome to my post! Let me tell you about myself... I am a kinky girl,i am not romantic person but i can be sweet.I take my time with everything and i am a patient person.I enjoy what i do,i am good at doing what i do. I am well experienced,open minded,dom personality,at times submissive. I love to be clean,fresh and ready for you.Hygiene is A MUST with me. I do not DFK but i love to nibble/lick your ears,neck,nipples make you shiver... Im going to tell you how to please me As I massage you...i want your hands to roam around..feeling my legs..going higher,feeling my ass, slowing making your way towards my pussy..teasing me,rubbing me,then i want you to tell me to take off my clothes..i want you to massage me...pour oil into my ass..let it drip down my pussy, massage me...digit me anally...explore my body.... make me your filthy girl with our time together...ill make u a filthy boy..and for the rest of the line.. well a true perv cannot kiss n tell..you just have see what happens next with me What do I look like you ask? I am a canadian greek born sexxy goddess,olive tanned skin,beautiful big eyes with long lashes, soft lips,nice greek ass,shaven kitty,b cup,125lbs,5'3,trimmed nails,long black hair with highlights. What are my cost? $50 -30mins/$60-45mins/$80 for hr{these are for the room fees} for my personal fee,please pm me! You can reach me @274-7073 or pm me,i post my hours on my profile,or go on angels touch site. I look foward to meeting each and one of you,thank you for viewing my post! **Je parle francais aussi!** xo maya xo __________________ __________________ Call angel's touch 613-274-7073 to book your sexy ,naughty time

Have anyone noticed that since the Big Raid in The US that the Online Platform BP have completely changed the wording Of Their Disclaimer. Why couldn't they have made these adjustments before does it take measures like what the authorities to make sure that the vulnerable is protected.

I'm gonna break the rules on this one, as Bill and Ted said..."69 dude!!!!" Tongue ring or Tongue ring-less

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If an SP catches my interest, my usual sequence is to check her profile, see what she has to say about herself, take a quick look at her postings, peruse her album(s) if there are any and look for a site address. On her site, I pretty much follow how it's laid out. Bio, Gallery and so on. One of the things I am specifically looking for, either in her profile or on her site, is an indication of her boundaries, what she will not do. Not because her boundaries would stop me from being interested but so I can avoid asking for that which is not on the table... or in the bed. If her desire is cbj, I'd like to know that so I'm not caught off guard when the Trojan shows up. I think it would be impractical to literally list everything that a person will do. Does one list which positions (doggy, cowgirl, missionary) are available and which are not? Does that include doing it standing up in the shower? Rather, I think it would be simpler to outline what is not possible for those things which are important to mention such as Greek, No fluid exchange and so on. Having said that, as always. each provider should resolve this in the manner most comfortable to her.

One thing, if you "leave comment, rep points", it does not bump up the thread. So, my understanding on Reco's, if you leave it as a comment, instead of replying, you are not bumping. Am I correct? That's ok right?

I like it if the limits are posted. Usually makes for a shorter list, and easier to determine what's on the table

I agree that listing services and prices is very important. For those that choose not to review this prior to contact, well, just be patient with them and re-direct them. Some take a while to learn, and I suspect a lot of them are trying to "sneak time" in, and so don't spend the time to actually review the sites. They have 5 minutes to look and book, so that might be why they aren't reviewing the websites. xoxo

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If the website is posted I fall in the 10% because I find it beneficial to read it for just those reason information that will help know the lady a bit more. Would hate to see a lady and offend her by going to perform daty when she doesn't allow it. But I think it laziness not to look, or just plain too horny to take 5 min and check.

Personally I like it if they have a price listed, just for the simple fact I find it very uncomfortable asking but for me price is usually a small factor in chosen. If I want to see that person I just wait until I can afford. What I really like thought is listed what the lady like or if she specialize in a particular service. I find when the woman is in her comfort zone it so much more fun. Acronyms can be confusing at time especially if you're new. I even once thought roar was an acronym since it was being used frequently, although it was a good laugh when I ask what that meant, at least she thought it was adorable.

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It's great to spell everything out. If you are beyond my budget or perhaps I'm looking for a particular service and you don't provide it, I won't waste your time or mine :)

Many thanks for the birthday wishes! Celebrating with some wine this evening:)

Awww hes super cute!! I have a chihuahua, his name is Taco, hes a blue grey with brown and white markings. Not a teacup but hes teeny and my little man....although he is only a pup and barks and barks and barks...hes still a cutie :) i want to post a pic of him for you guys to see but can't figure out how..

I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question correctly, if you are asking if I would encourage after business companionship with a client, I would say no. There is an old saying in this business that goes " men pay us to leave" and I'm happy for this! I love the men I interact with, some have been better than others, that's the way it goes, but when the time is up so is the connection. I still think it was all great and would want to do it again, see them again, but in a paid relationship only. I love my freedom, my "no responsibility" type lifestyle. I don't need anything complicating it:) If you are asking does encouraging a connection create more chemistry I'd also say no . Either there is chemistry or there isn't. We all play out our sessions differently, I'm not a good actress so what you see is what you get, if its there its there if it isn't it isn't. I won't pretend to be or to do anything to create an illusion of any type of relationship.

My wish list consists of Annessa, Cleo Catra and Alexandra Sky.

Hello my pervs and welcome to my post! Let me tell you about myself... I am a kinky girl,i am not romantic person but i can be sweet.I take my time with everything and i am a patient person.I enjoy what i do,i am good at doing what i do. I am well experienced,open minded,dom personality,at times submissive. I love to be clean,fresh and ready for you.Hygiene is A MUST with me. I do not DFK but i love to nibble/lick your ears,neck,nipples make you shiver... Im going to tell you how to please me As I massage you...i want your hands to roam around..feeling my legs..going higher,feeling my ass, slowing making your way towards my pussy..teasing me,rubbing me,then i want you to tell me to take off my clothes..i want you to massage me...pour oil into my ass..let it drip down my pussy, massage me...digit me anally...explore my body.... make me your filthy girl with our time together...ill make u a filthy boy..and for the rest of the line.. well a true perv cannot kiss n tell..you just have see what happens next with me What do I look like you ask? I am a canadian greek born sexxy goddess,olive tanned skin,beautiful big eyes with long lashes, soft lips,nice greek ass,shaven kitty,b cup,125lbs,5'3,trimmed nails,long black hair with highlights. What are my cost? $50 -30mins/$60-45mins/$80 for hr{these are for the room fees} for my personal fee,please pm me! You can reach me @274-7073 or pm me,i post my hours on my profile,or go on angels touch site. I look foward to meeting each and one of you,thank you for viewing my post! **Je parle francais aussi!** xo maya xo __________________ __________________ Call angel's touch 613-274-7073 to book your sexy ,naughty time

mmmmmmmm can I bring something too ;) .... might now be able to beat your bacon muffins though lol ...

You're welcome.

Most 'legit' and by legit I mean non HE places wipe me down with a wet/hot towel...

I find this story/encounter very difficult to believe. I have been going to massage every two weeks for the past 15 year, have seen about 10 different RMT's, all of them gorgeous, and never once have I come close to anything like this! There was just a thread about this on this board last week, and basically your story is the complete opposite of what the proffesion is all about. I also have difficulty believing she got you a wet towel and wiped you off with it, as this doesn't happen either. I'm kinda thinkin this wasnt a legit massage place, at least it doesn't employ licenced RMTs. Just IMHO ......

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Don't know what to watch tonight, Argo or Zero Dark Thirty Which is better Mind you both are on my "to watch" list RG

I get the impression than many porn-stars do escorting or cam-shows or other stuff on the side; as you say, they pay better. I'm even wondering if we're getting to the stage where porn will become more of a marketing avenue for people's other activities, rather than a revenue stream in its own right. After all, if you've got an AVN award or two you can probably hike your rates a fair bit :)

Thanks for bringing this topic up! I don't know if you want the female perspective but I figure it doesn't hurt to offer it... As a female SP and a pro Dom, I come across this rather often, its more common than you'd think. I agree completely, being bi curious is very different from being gay. I myself am bisexual, I love playing with girls, but emotionally, I am 100% hetro. I've been with girls who were only curious or treat it as a fetish, or only really enjoy it in a threesome setting with a man she loves.... I find, when being honest with yourself, you realize that very few things in life are either black or white... the yin yang comes to mind. I have many male submissive clients who request my guiding them through their first experience with a man. Teaching them how to please, how to relax and accept a man, how to give yourself or... how to be a true slut etc... Its incredible and a lot of fun. Not one of them is gay of course because they still have interest in women, some are bisexual but for others, its more like a fetish. There is one gentleman I know who looses interest in being with a man, unless a woman is present and a part of the experience. The whole point is that Im play "making him do it" and role play type of thing. Its the scenario that matters to him much more than the man himself... So there's all kinds of things that come into play depending on the person. As such, I personally don't concern myself with labels, let alone trying to conform myself, or anyone else into one. Sex is an amazing thing and I feel as long as it involves consenting adults who protect themselves and each other, its all good! So I loved reading this thread, life is way too short to let fear or anything hold us back from experiencing it to its fullest. As I say in some of my ads "Im versatile, because variety is the spice of life and I love tasting new things! Enjoy! Jessy xoxo xxx

Funny, but true. I did an outcall once to visit a man at the house he shared with his wife, while she was at work, and it was the most uncomfortable hour of my life. I will never do it again. I don't understand why men try this, and I think it is just asking for trouble. It's almost like sub-consciously they want to get caught. Maybe if she is out of town for the weekend or something, then there's a bit more leeway, but even then, a long blonde hair, the tiny corner of a condom wrapper, a lingering scent, or any number of things could be an easy giveaway. One can dig his own grave, but imagine the awkward and potentially dangerous situation the SP would be put in if wifey comes home early. As cautious as one is, why not just eliminate the possibility altogether and either rent a hotel room, or just do an incall. Playing it safe could also alleviate a lot of unnecessary stress for both parties too. :) To each their own, but in my own life, I try to stay as drama-free as possible and avoid situations when possible that have a high potential for being troublesome.

I am so happy beautiful Berlin is discussing this issue! I wish some of you knew this: The female body it is made for multiple orgasmic experiences thus if you care to make us come and have an eletric session with you. All you have to do is ask us: How do you prefer? Where and how can i pleasure your body, breasts, thights? How can i perform date on you, to arouse you? We are in the age of the Godess, thus most sexually confident female knows what she likes and dislikes in bed. Some of you even get mad at me when i try to give you tips on my sexual likes and dislikes. And some of you are all about been generous and sensual according to my personal sexual preferences in order to make the best of our encounter and the result it is hot sex mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Some guy even told me it is "natural to penetrate a lady hard". I would say the word natural it is a dangerous word to use in sexuality and aesthetics. It is natural to allow gas to flow freely, should i fart on your face during sex because it is natural? No right? I prefer gentle and slow sex, but once i am more warm up i will ask for more action. I think desire and lust should lead in bed, not the strength of your male hips. I would prefer that you touch my arms, my legs and my back and my waist and my back before you touch any sexual part of my body, and please be gentle and please warm up your hands before touching us. The beauty is: Some of you already aim to please, but you are rare and you know who you are;). When you penetrate us hard without any care to increase our pleasure we just want to make you come asap, because it hurts.