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I cannot stand it when people say things like, "He's such an idiot...he probably works at such and such fast food place who sells Burgers." Now I don't work at that particular Fast Food Place, (instead I chose to be an SP) and I never have, but you can bet your rear end that if I were in a tight spot and I had a family to support that I wouldn't look down my nose at a job like that. People in service jobs don't get enough credit, and it's like some people feel the need to make others with those kinds of job feel shame and that isn't fair. A job is a job, and if that person shows up every day and performs at that job, then that deserves respect. Working at a fast food restaurant or being a waitress or cashier or even a SP as I am - may not be as glamorous as being a doctor or a lawyer, but a doctor's money is no better than the money of a blue collar worker. There may be more of it in a doctor's pocket, but it's the value of each dollar is still the same. It irks me when I am in the checkout line at a store, standing behind someone who feels they can treat the cashier like garbage just because they can. I am on of those people who will say something, because I can't be fired for telling off the Moran and I am sure the poor girl behind the register appreciates it since she is unable to say anything in her defense at the risk of becoming unemployed. Yesterday, while waiting in line, I watched as the cashier greeted a man with a smile and he didn't even look at her or say anything, just literally tossed his items on the counter in front of her. She rung him up, he paid and grabbed his items and snatched another plastic bag from the rack as if he was irritated-if had liked something double bagged all he had to do was ask-and when the girl said, "Thanks, have a good evening." he just turned and walked off. I said, "You're welcome!" real loud and obnoxiously and he turned around and glared at me as I smiled all bright. He didn't say anything...I guess his evil stare was supposed to frighten me or something...hardly, I could have so taken him

I'd agree with those saying you're probably best off just to ignore him. He's probably not spending time and energy thinking about, and you'd probably be happier doing the same. What's the quote? "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." One of the problems with bullies is surprisingly often they don't realize they are one! From their perspective they are just messing around, innocently teasing, and with no harm done. Especially years after the fact their perspective of events gloss over. It's unfair, but that's only all the more reason for you to try and not lose any more piece of mind over it yourself.

So I took one for the team... 24/7 agency? I was assured prior to the appointment by a man on the phone that it would not be a bait and switch situation after I warned him I would leave if it was. Well it was a bait and switch but whats worse is this girl was obviously not in a good place. She tried to make small talk and stuff and it was just really bad. I could tell she was struggling with addiction. She had that emptiness about her. The apartment was filled with smoke. There was weed out on the table. It was a truly Disgusting scene. I turned and left. Makes me sick how people can be exploited this way. 24/7 agency = very bad. Stay away.

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That some that have commented on this thread, have never experienced the lifestyle. Having said that, I've did a couple of gang bangs quite some time ago AND also experienced MMFF, and MMMFFF more of an orgy ;) But I enjoyed both scenario's :) Your poll is revealing that nerves is the biggest issue, but I have a funny feeling that those that "want/like" to experience the gang bang never have before, and therefore the poll is misleading. CH and JJ nailed it, it is more about the "timing and advertising" although I think you also advertise in the "gang bang social group". My days start pretty early, and I look forward to getting home to BBQ and R&R throughout the week nights. Now on the other hand if there was that option during the day, and I was available I would attend, but I'm a minority so I NEVER give a "I like to" or in fact on a "mailing list", it gives false pre tense to the lady. When I want to attend, hopefully the timing is good and the lady would accept ME as possibly a late "entry" LOL... I like that..late.... entry... :) :)

This is something that hit home for me, and when I read this thread this morning I didn't have time to respond my thought. Now that I've had this in my mind almost all day time to let it out. My first job was working as a clerk in a grocery store were I worked for nearly 6 years. For one it was a lot of work constantly having different shifts almost every day and every week. Putting up with arrogant customers. All for a minimum wage which grew to a about 15$ an hour near the end of my stay there. You may not need education to work in there but you sure needed other skill that aren't taught in school. I eventually move on to management in there where I hired my own staff. Well guess what most of the people I hired were students. Some where university or college students and other were high school. Oddly the ones that were able to tough it out and had what it takes weren't always the most educated ones. Sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out empty shelves need to be stocked, but it took people who took initiative, without being told all the time. Education doesn't teach those skill. I work in construction often in government buildings. Now most of these people that work in these office have some sort of degree. Which often I find them looking down at people like me who chose my type of work, as if we are lower class. Well I did attend college, I chose not to finish, not because I couldn't and it certainly wasn't cause I didn't have the marks but because I didn't want to work in that field of work. I can't stand sitting down in an office all day long. So education to me don't mean crap to me in the sense of someone being better than anyone else. Now when it come to salary It's the same I don't think someone making less or more are better. Judging someone by their job is just as dumb as judging people by their salary. I've seen office managers who probably make 100k and spend their whole time chatting with co-workers going on break every hour for a smoke. Take extended lunch breaks only to when they return to sit at their desk and eat a lunch, like wtf have they being doing for the last hour and a half. I think society has made it look like certain jobs are better than others. All through education and salary. When I think bottom line we are all needed to fill certain jobs and no one should be looked down at because they have a job that requires less education or lower salary. If you ask me salaries in today's society are a joke. To many people making way too much and too many not making enough not enough so called middle class. Sure we all like money but wouldn't it be fairer if you got paid by how hard you worked. Bringing more people on a levelled playing field.

Ignore him, don't acknowledge him whatsoever. By acknowledging him you acknowledge his bullying, and that you still to this day remember it. Don't acknowledge him, then it means his bullying (and him) doesn't impact you today RG

Just to echo what others have said and from a personal standpoint. I have been 'no showed' on. And I, like you, think I'm not a bad date. But I learned earlier not much point in trying to see someone who clearly demonstrates they don't share the same interest. If a lady replies or an explanation exists...then all is forgiven. But to simply be a 'no show' or go absent on you...I would move on. Cub

While I appreciate your opinion RG, I want to point out that I am running this poll specifically for the people who ARE interested in this sort of encounter. As I said in my OP, I have 75+ cerb handles on the mailing list for these events, so there are some interested folks out there. For the record, these folks aren't looking for a GFE...I am well aware that this type of play is not for everyone, hence the reason it was posted in the fetish section. And there is time for socializing, not everyone arrives in the same minute! The eager ones who show up first get all kinds of talk-time! See redbeard's reco of one of these encounters for more info! :)

I recently had the pleasure of meeting Gabby for the first time after conversing with her for a few days both by e-mail and txt. She is extremely pleasant, well read and smart young woman with a very sharp sense of humor ! She immediately puts you at ease when you meet her and I felt like I,d known her for years, she cuddled up to me as we first chatted and held her very nicely proportioned body tightly against mine and she massaged my neck while we chatted placing one of my hands on her hip and holding the other one closely next to her ample breasts I could feel her heat and as we chatted I relaxed more than I have in the past untill I was completely at ease. She has an infectious smile and knows how to kiss we spent a fair bit of time just getting to know each other and explore each other, she is definitely not a clock watcher and concentrated entirely on my needs both receiving and giving.I won,t get into a lot of details suffice it to say that it was one of the best "dates" I,ve had so far ! she is more petite than her pictures show and I believe the camera does not do her justice ! So nice to have met this "Prairie girl" and I definitely can,t wait to see her again !

Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa September Social will be held Thursday, September 19th, so mark your calendar!! There will be 60 spots available (30 gents and 30 ladies) for members in good standing. Gents, tickets will be made available soon, at a cost of $35, which will cover snacks, drinks for the ladies and door prizes. I will keep everyone up to date via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by CERB members for members, you can contact myself, Loneskater or Spud271 directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

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Or go right up to him, a big, sincere smile on your face and say "Hey! How you doing? It's great to see you! I have to admit, everyone figured you'd be dead or in prison as someone's boy toy by now! Way to keep your head above water!" Then fade back into your group. Maybe not very practical or morally high, but fun.

So today was my cousins birthday alot of my aunt and uncles plus my parents were there at this new diner in town .After we finished eating I noticed one of the old bullies from high school walked by me he looked at me for a good bit he must of remembered who I was as I did him he still had that same smirk he did when we were younger.I wanted to say something to him but didn't want to cause a scene.If you seen one of your old bullies what would you do?

Hi Cristy! Sorry about your little companion, but age catches up with us all sooner or later. It's caught up with me and if I didn't take daily dietary supplements, I'd be a pain too. Daily fish oil would be good, but how do you get a dog to take it? Maybe a half a can of pacific salmon a day? A quality curcumin capsule could be opened and mixed in with the salmon; it's not a strong tasting spice so your buddy might eat it if it were mixed with the salmon. I find that ginger is the most potent pain relieving supplement, but how the heck you would get a dog to take it is beyond me. Have you tried a raw meat diet, with no processed dog food, which may contain inflammatories like wheat, milk, and soy? And lastly, a little bit of canna*** oil (such as canna*** heated in coconut oil) added to the diet would calm her down and take the pain away (trust me, it works); it's anti-inflammatory as well. But you have to start with a really, really small dose with little dogs (don't ask me how I know :D ) Just tossing out a few ideas. Good luck!

Very nice pics TiaMaria....you fill those leggings out very nicely!

I have a portable Tens machine and experience in using it. I guess I should not be keeping my Tens machine a secret. The Tens machine I have is designed to be used as a sex toy and I have used it as such. I always have a safe word for this sort of play and I have never caused anyone any harm. Your fetish and fun provider, Valerie

Just adding my sympathies, the vet is the best to help you through this situation in my opinion. You know your beloved dog better than anyone and I trust that you will make the best decision possible. May I wish you the best of luck for both you and your Dog. Wishing there was a magic button to offer the correct advise, but follow your veterinarian's advice and your own heart. Kisses XoX

Thank you for the feedback ladies :) I'm going to reach out and try this out!

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Whatever you decide my dear you for sure have the support of people here. I hope your able to find the answers your looking for. Feeling helpless in this kind of situation is terrible, especially when your patient can't tell you how they fell. My thoughts are with ya.

I'm so sorry you're having to suffer with this. It is never easy seeing those you love in a position where you feel helpless to help. My first thought is that your dog is young and could have potentially many years of love and happiness left. Yes, it may be tempered by not being able to do normal things but there is still the ability to love, be a friend and experience life in different ways. If the surgery can provide this and alleviate some of the pain, I would at least try it and see how it works out. To me, if there's an option, it should be tried. If you were in this position, would it be fair to you to live and enjoy life and find different things to love and enjoy or to take life away from you? Stay strong. It's always good to look for support where you can and I know there are many animal lovers on this board. I'm sure you'll get compassionate advice that may help with your decision!

Has this been posted before??

As I typed that Thanks, my retriever just dropped one in his sleep...

My beautiful and snuggly new senior little girl pug.. IS A STINK BOMB. Ewwwwwwwwww.

I firmly believe everyone gets treated as a person an with civility, but it boggles my mind that people still mouth off at food servers. What don't you realize about the fact that your oral consumption is in their hands. Ive been to restaurants where I've had literally zero service, and I still say my pleases and thank yous. As Secret said, who knows what they're doing to your food or drink back there.

Ignore them or smile as that definitely throws them off. If you're still speaking of them in the terms you used today, that means they took a lot of your personal power way back when. Don't give the satisfaction of acknowledging the past and giving away power now. Or, you could always take the higher path and walk up to them and say "I forgive you" and do....then let it go. Forgiving is not the same as forgetting. Forgiving is for you. If they're lucky, they have changed their ways. If not, it will bother them but that's on them, not you.

Heavenly! Each and every one of them and I am trying to do my duty as a man and give pleasure to as many women as I can!

Don't waste any more time on her. There are lots of SP's and many visiting the city on a regular basis especially from Montreal and other cities. Enjoy yourself with many of the other wonderful ladies available.

Great driving music ? What comes to mind is; Iron Maiden Billy Idol Motley Crue..Girls, Girls, Girls and others I guess I'm stuck in the eighties, oh well...the eighties were fun !

I read somewhere that there used to be CERB socials. I'm not sure how they would work but I know what I would like to see happen. I would like to see a social / party / meet somewhere like a QUIET bar, perhaps on several occasions to accomodate night and day people. I would like an occasion(s) to meet SPs, NOT to have sex on site, NOT even to arrange anything, but just to see if there is chemistry and interest in pursuing getting to know some of them, and to let them know if I am interested in them or vice versa. If everyone is from CERB there is no need to go into great details about who everyone is, or what they want or provide. However, I would like to be able to associate a CERB name with the actual person I meet. It would be more like an ice-breaker occasion. I understand why everyone is so careful but I want to know if there is CHEMISTRY or at least some attraction before I get to know someone more intimately. I would like to make some friends who are also SPs. This is especially true for SPs who DON'T travel from city to city. I would like to meet SPs who I can call up and come over to see, just like I would any friend. Of course I am only interested in Ottawa, but maybe people from other areas might like my ideas as well.

I agree with Meagan. Try PM'ing those that have posted a reco and ask them for some insight. In my experience I've only had one SP who didn't show up for our confirmed appointment. When she was a half hour late I emailed her to ask her if she was still coming. I didn't get an answer right away but when I woke up the next day she had sent me a response explaining why she couldn't make it. So we rescheduled and all was great. I wouldn't get too hung up though as there a many other fine ladies on CERB that are either local or travel to our fine city of Halifax. Best of luck in everything!!

I think you were more than patient,accommodating and acted extremely well throughout the "chase". Personally myself, after the first attempt without any reasonable explanation back from a lady, I would have had moved on. Many other ladies out there to visit, that are quite willing and able to communicate quickly enough. My nickel on the topic.

splitz - You're just calling it like you see it. Don't feel like you have to apologize for, or sugar coat, your experiences on this site. No point in trying to put lipstick and high heels on a pig. I for one won't get offended. Keep it up (the posts that is...) Good post dude. Let us know how things go.:biggrin:

For me its just timing. I've attended a few over the years and always had a great time. I've rarely seen your posts about GB's until after they had occurred. One suggestion could be to have it the same time every month, example, first Saturday of each month, so interested people would know about it and plan for it. Maybe one in the day and one at night as some are only available at night and others prefer during the day. Feel free to let me know about your next one.

Give up on this one. Not your fault.

Some people need to build themselves up by putting others down. Or they think somehow they are better than other people. And treating a person with disrespect because of the job he or she has is an easy way for such a person to build him/herself up What is important is who the person is on the inside. All a job is, is how a person earns a income, their livelihood. It isn't who they are. And who a person is determines if he or she is treated with respect by me, not the job they hold. A rambling RG

In today's wonderful world of surprise downsizing, outsourcing and overall lousy revenue, nobody should be sneering at someone working in a fast food place. It could be them working there tomorrow and getting sneered at. As my mom used to say "There but for the grace of God go I".

Sorry folks but for the most part deposits will not solve your issue. There used to be a very active Ottawa based Poly group on this board. For a bunch of reasons it is not as active on this board, but still very active. The people involved just use other means to stay in touch. I think one of the reasons it is not on this board as much, is it seemed to attract a lot of tire-kickers and lookie-lous who were really not interested in the activity. They were just curious or had voyeuristic tendencies. Also some of the SP's and to a lesser extent hobbiests, experienced a backlash from some clients when it got out that they were participating. I think that may be part of what some of the SP's who try to organize these events are experiencing There is usually some difficulty finding a time for some of these events that suits everyone. That is one of the most frequent problems. Most hobbiests don't book an hour for a gang bang in their Outlook calendar, or can't tell the SO what they are doing. So the larger the number of participants, the harder it is to get schedules to work and mesh. The most successful ones in the Poly group generally had the logistics handled by a hobbiest. An SP would agree with a hobbiest on the type of event, the ground rules, number of participants etc. The hobbiest would then be the one who organized the client logistics. Recruiting them, telling them the ground rules, donations etc. Often they also secured the venue. That seemed to work the best. Of course the other key is that many folks are uncomfortable in this group setting with strangers. The key factor of that Poly group, was that we ran Poly socials. In someways the forerunner of the CERB socials, but much smaller, and much more casual. Interested SP's would attend, and hobbiests as well, who were usually screened by the other hobbiests to make sure we didn't invite trouble. We would share a few drinks, a few laughs, make connections, and generally from that event, hobbiests would approach an SP to set something up. (Sometimes that very night, but not always) Although sometimes it would lead to one on one encounters, generally everyone there, were there for the same interest, and group events usually happened. And not to hijack the thread I will respond to RG's comment on what he thinks it would be like. In fact that group of folks is actually pretty intimate, although the events are a bit of a walk on the wild side. Most of the folks involved also see each other for GFE sessions. The poly social aspect also meant we got to learn a lot about different folks in the hobby, in a respectful and friendly environment. There was probably more intimacy and camaraderie then I have experienced anywhere else in the hobby.

I don't have an issue with a guest wanting MSOG but it's a rare man that can even attempt it when I'm done with him after a single SOG. Like Emily, my guests come to me for an experience and I would rather play hours together building the tension. My guests derive as much pleasure from the journey as they do the destination. Delayed gratification is indeed the ultimate pleasure in my opinion and I specifically seek out those men who share my passion and inclinations. That said, a provider who posts an hourly fee then evicts a guest as soon he shoots is indeed asking for an issue. The "paid for time not services" comes from the US where escorts are required to cloak their business in a veil to protect themselves from LE. We are not required to do so here and providers have a choice of offering either an a la carte menu or an all inclusive buffet and everything in between. It is up to the guest to explore what a provider is offering to ensure it meets his expectations for the visit and a provider would be wise to be upfront about her chosen business model if she wants return clients. I believe there is the perfect client for every provider and vice versa, we just need to be willing to communicate clearly in order to find each other... cat

My first real job was as a nanny for a friend of my mother. I looked after three very young children, one I practically raised from six months old to age three. I spent ten hours a day with these kids 5 days a week-cooking for them and cleaning up after them, and walking the the five year old to the bus stop and making sure she got on and then meeting her when the bus dropped her off to see that she made it home safely. The littlest one, truly stole my heart when she asked me if I was her other mommy. Someone had the nerve to tell me that was not a real job. When I pointed out how many hours a week I spent with these kids plus cleaning the house they lived in because their parents were complete slobs and left dishes in the sink long enough for mold to grow...it shut them up. Just a little FYI for those who like to treat food workers poorly...these people are alone with your drinks and food...think about that. I was a waitress for five years-and I saw some pretty gross stuff-one waitress spit in this guys drink because he called her a stupid b**ch because she asked him to repeat his order. I don't condone that at all....but you know it happens everywhere. So....mind your manners or drink some spit, lol.

I give everyone I meet the same equal level of respect, be it a judge or clerk or anyone in between.

My baby boy beagle is getting older and he occasionally has bad days with arthritis. He's a retired hunting beagle and is a bit of a legend around these parts. Everybody says that, in his day, he could run like the wind. But the years of limited exercise all year round, followed by a few days a year of balls out running, coupled with sleeping in the kennels year round, when it was hot, wet or -30, have left him with some problems. This week, he's having a bad week. And I'm having to carry him up and down the stairs to go outside. So last night, I'm here on my own, with him, the two labs and the ugly pugly, and he's got to go out. We have our family room and bedroom combined into one on the second floor. I grab him up, and he's pretty tender, so I'm trying to be careful. I get to the top of the stairs and tell the other dogs to go down. Nope. They're not going down until they see me start to go down. Then it's like The Three Stooges, with everyone trying to go at once. I nearly got knocked off my feet. I had to let go of the dog in my arms with one hand to grab the railing, which meant I had to squeeze him tighter with the other, which set him screaming. I wrenched my back in the process. I get him downstairs and put him out, my back killing me. He runs right out to the bottom of the yard and loses himself amongst the tomato containers, where we play hide and seek for ten minutes, treating the mosquitoes to a feast. And then I have to carry him back up. Still, he's got me worried. Usually he has a bad day or two and snaps out of it. He's been having problems since Tuesday, though. All you can do is love them while you can!

You'll also see some ladies chime in here about COF/CIM (Like me, I looooooove cof) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=138039

Wow.... Another great experience with this lady... I've lost count of how many times we've enjoyed ourselves. Each experience has been better than the time before... She keeps showing me new t icks and even some new body art this time. Dangerously addictive... and full of energy!!! I highly recommend you take the drive.

I believe that is why the OP referenced the smoking as a fetish. Many things that wind up one person's fetish motor completely turn someone else completely off. Part of the joy of Sexuality is the wide variety of it all.