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In theory, MOD's definition is warm and fuzzy and what it should be... BUT - (sorry MOD, I doubt you have been an MA) reality is totally different. I have been asked many times as of lately what GFE really means - sadly, some have totally ruined and misrepresented this term - implied and guaranteed DFK, DATY, being fingered, FS and basically everything BUT a relaxing sensual massage. Call me prudish but there has been a change in what is expected in the massage rooms of Ottawa over the last few years. CMJ defines GFE as a "genuinely fabulous experience, girl friend experience" Just like, in REAL life, you don't connect with everyone and wouldn't want just any pretty girl or handsome guy to be your girlfriend/boyfriend. Also in real life, would you want your GF, GFE-ing it up with 5-10 different guys a day? DFK, DATY - lets not forget that now that SP's like to work in some MP's, and the fact that some MP's actively promote and encourage SP services (Blow Jobs and Full Service) in their "massage parlours", your risk for catching all kinds of STD's and STI's (both of the mouth/throat & genitalia area) have dramatically increased. Being selective and genuine is crucial not only for your health but for the longevity of the MASSAGE industry. The lines are being blurred and its very sad. I dont think that GFE guarantees DFK either.... I highly doubt you would play tonsil hockey with someone who has seriously bad gingivitis. Don't I feel sorry for the lady who feels that she can't give a great experience without having to DFK gingivitis boy. I am sorry but man this annoys me... and its a very dangerous road. Call me old fashioned but I am used to the days when GFE was a term that belonged to high end selective courtesans. As MOD said, it implies sensuality - well for me, sensual massage implies that imperatively. Things evolve and change, and I am not against that - however when you take an SP original term and try and apply it to a MA world - you get alot of confusion and blurred lines. Theory and reality are two different things. I hear my staff tell me everyday... and in my opinion, GFE "girlfriend experience" should have stayed an SP term .... hence why CMJ has had to re-define it to appropriately fit into the massage realm. Genuinely Fabulous Experience

John Caines hosts a very popular call in radio show dealing with home renovations. I would like to start a thread where cerbies could ask for suggestions and give advice regarding renos, car maintenance, electronics gardening, etc.... Let's share our hidden knowledge and abilities :) This is the "how to" thread (how to anything....scrapbooking, stainglassing, photography etc....) so share what you are knowledgeable and passionate about and ask questions about what you want to learn!

Making my mom happy... she's suffering from Alzeimer and I went to her place and gave her a bath...yes she's at that level now...although she was reluctant at first I managed to convince her and she thanked me many times...the look of releif on my dad's face...that made my day :) BJ

I think there is a shame when the word prostitute is pronounced and for me a courtesan or a companion makes it more acceptable and classy...just my honest opinion! Oufff...thats a though question!! I truly enjoy what I do and would keep doing it for a long time.....unless.. winning the lottery...no Financial worries ( might keep working still but not as much ;) Falling deeply in love and be supported financialy...:biggrin: I go with first come first serve! I have turned down a reg who contacted me last minute once and I had just got a booking who was confirmed...he suggested i cancel the other for him... No...not gonna happen sorry!

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If the lady has booked a particular date and time for an individual already, even two minutes before me, and I was the regular, I respect the premise of first come first serve. If there is any benefit to being a regular, one shouldn't be bumping a lady's scheduled encounters. As a regular, or even a new client, one thing, first and foremost is to still remember and respect that this is the lady's livelihood, and you expecting her to bump or cancel a scheduled encounter may lead to her lose that encounter for good, which equals to loss of income for her. A gentleman, especially a regular would not want to see a lady lose any income. A rambling RG Additional Comments: I had to cancel last minute once on a lady I see regularly, she got paid in full plus tip by me. While I cancelled last minute due to illness, and it wasn't my fault I got sick, but it wasn't the lady's fault at all...but why should she be at a loss because I was sick. She got compensated in full because she would otherwise be at a loss income wise because she set aside a time and date for me, a time and date I wasn't going to make. And she didn't need to ask me for a cancellation fee, I just had to find out how to get the money to her (email money transfer) A rambling RG

A hug, when it's much needed. A sense of calm and relief is almost instantaneous.

My regular of course! Reputable cerb members still might cancel, or do a no show. Having a good cerb reputation is great but it doesn't mean he'll be a good client for me. If I consider a gentleman a regular then he has been fun, reliable, someone I like and want to see again. Additional Comments: Ill retire when I loose interest in this profession. When that happens it's my time, until then I'll enjoy it;) Additional Comments: To me they are just words. We all give ourselves titles we feel appropriate and comfortable with. Call it what you like they all have the same meaning, more or less.

Yes they are wonderful compliments. The best compliment to me is repeat visits.

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

What makes you happy....makes you smile, grin from hear to hear...I know you guys will definately come up with the big "O" lol....besides to big "O"... My son just told me...hey mom listen to this: It made me happy instantly :) Doing a good deed makes me happy :) Watching my kids smile makes me happy :) Smiling to a stranger and getting a smile back...nice! Let's get some positive and happy moments here...I'm feeling happy and would like it to be contagious! Thanks for sharing :D BJ

Getting a text from my daughter to see if I'm available for a Skype session. She'll have the baby on for a visit, and he's now able to sit up and starting to recognize whats going on, on the laptop. It's such a treat watching him develop, just seven months old.

Opinion of a guy - what Erin and cmj are posting is the way things always have been and will be unfortunately. But it really is a parallel to life outside the massage service world. Guys that are rude , creepy and gross that don't know how to treat women in the 9-5 world never get laid or have a happy partner either. A key word is respect too. If guys would figure out that the girls workings as MAs don't look at a dude and say..oh I want him sticking his fingers in me right now. Ha. You pay for fantasy but these girls are real people too. Treat them like the beautiful hard working ladies they are. They have to protect their hygiene and bodies too as it is their livelihood and they need a comfort factor. Erin and cmj keep up the high standards as I have personal experience with both. When I'm done a session I know I feel fantastic and the girl feels she met a decent , clean guy that made her day better not worse. That's my two cents... jerks like that and others I think MAs should just give me a swift kick in the balls. What will they do...go home and tell their wives.

Beauty is everywhere and in everything, from an object to a person actions, you just need to look. I can honestly say since me life changed so did my perception. I find beauty in the simplest things in their purest form. A genuine laugh or smile, act of kindness, selflessness. I think as human we've grown accustom to how something should look or be that we've lost sight of what actual beauty is. I know I did, and now that my eyes and mind are open I see beauty everywhere I just have to look.

As an sp, I can honestly say I'm not a hobbiest, never have been probably never will be, I'm on the receiving end. So, to answer your question, in my humble opinion : Not very likely.

I find physical beauty boring. I'd much rather look at someone who is interesting looking, scarred, tatted, someone who has some life on them and maybe even extra weight. But what I think I now know is that kindness shows on a persons face. It shows in their eyes, smile, it's a sincerity that is unmistakeable and to me that is beauty.

People that are there at those very hard times are those to be cherished. It is those times when we all need support. You are very lucky to have such special and thoughtful clients. Additional Comments: Some are aware of how much I love animals and support shelters. So the gents that made donations on behalf of me are my most memorable gifts/favors to date.

Gentlemen, I will be at Tease this Friday, February 28th 7 pm till ? 5029 Bank 613 315 4405

OMG royal, separated at birth? I am sitting in my theater type lazy boy (cup holder, junk food receptacle etc) in my too big pj pants, eating pumpkin seeds with beer and watching .... Wait for it... American Idol and crying when they sing. I am so pathetic! Next, cheezewhiz and whatever I can find to scoop it out of the jar with. Hmmm I have salt and vinegar chips. Wait, baconnaise with cheezewhiz on my finger!

Cerb is becoming a great venue and I find that it is growing due to the ladies promoting it to gents who find them via BP et al. As a provider, I give prioriry to Cerb members so don't be shy about your handle!

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I would agree with Emma, repeat visits would be a better compliment... Means you truly enjoyed their company and would do it again.

Who doesn't like compliments? People love getting them. Compliment away. Sometimes if I compliment a client he thinks I say that to all the guys...no I only say things I mean and like this board if I have nothing nice to say I say nothing at all.

Again only speaking for myself. If your texting me I want it to read like an email. You can first ask if you have the right number but when it's confirmed I want your name etc. Believe me we can write a book on the stupid text messages and emails we get. Lol so be a gentleman and be polite.

We are judged all the time. Sad to say but true. I've been in this situation more then once..sometimes if you tell them right off what you do they think "Wow, all the free sex i can have". That isn't true by the way. wink .If you tell them later then they may walk away or they get it. Some dudes think they get it but it takes a special someone that really does. When dating someone it takes a lot more time to hit the sheets. wink

Your question is a little offensive. Might be better asked "has anyone been with" or "has anyone had an appointment with" or ... well I hope you get the point. Then "she might be worth it"? Brother, these are ladies not objects. Your not going to get much help when your questions read as rude or mean. Your name says "good guy" lets try that... little more gentleman like will get a lot more help here on cerb.

THANK YOU MOD! I dont know what is it so hard for some guys to understand that the GFE term describes a feeling.., the way how a massage session can be very intimate yet NOT NECESSARILY means that they will Get the so called "Extras" ... that the term GFE has nothing to do with An Specific Service... Is An Experience As a whole! THANK YOU AGAIN :)

i pay my accountant by the hour - i pay my lawyer by the hour -i pay my house cleaner by the hour- all professionals -why would your services be any different- except more enjoyable

Im starting to go crazy being stranded in the Deer Lake Airport.... No Rogers, awful Wifi....seriously need to get out of here....

haha too funny...just read it too...and all I could think of was remembering kissing Savannah at the last social and massaging Nathalie's shoulder during a girls get together...hmmm nice memories :D

For sink sometimes I can be as easy as taking the cap off the peep trap which is just a screw located on the u looking part of the pipe. Sometimes the peep trap is actually a screw on pipe for the convenience of remove able. Small repairs are one thing but actual renovation should be done to standard. Did you know insurance company can refuse payout due to non licensed work?

Freshly washed bedding, nothing like climbing into bed on laundry day!

Absolutely Gentleman11 and with good reason...that's why ethics are on top of my list! That is also why some of us ask for compensation when we get last minute cancellation...unfortunatly reg do cancel last minute also! BJ

I started off on BP and Cerb for Ottawa...got great clients from bp and of course here on cerb its the best clients...for Toronto...like Malika said...eros T-board and yes bp too can work...but T**b...dont know whats wrong with it but as much views I get on ads there..it doesnt do it! For out west, caf is the best place to advertize...wonderful gents on that board!

Hi Gents, Im a busty, tall, blue eyed beautiful lady with class & a fun personality. Im sensual with a soothing touch, sexy irresistible, flirty and love to get a little wild at times! Love to please and im happy when a man is satisfied. Your time with me will be a non rushed and enjoyable experience. Avail Today till 4pm, Fri 10-4

I am in sales...this is no different that any product or service. Every customer is going to have a different reason for buying. Advertising is still key, the new generation is all about reviewing the product on line before they buy. Winnipeggers are frugal and always want a deal. They need to be lured in by thinking they are getting a better deal by coming to you vs someone else. Free giveaways seem to work well....4sessions get the5 th one free. Additional Comments: To answer your question Zoe...local vs visiting sp does not make a diference to me other than supporting your local economy...which i am a huge believer!! Its all about best value.(bang for your buck) Additional Comments: P.s. check out Zoe zee's new fiery red hair....IT looks great!

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Tickets to Evita...

Well being a webcam model first, clients on cam were asking if i met in person...I met my first client that way...then I met Carrie Moon who helped me out building my first website and got me started in Ottawa...thank you Carrie :) Being my own boss...making my own Schedule...meeting amazing gents and having great encouters (amazing sex) and being able to provide for my kids :) Yes but will make sure that feeling are not in the way...communication !! Bad hygiene...Rushed sessions... That happens a lot too...at least for me! I keep repeating to myself that they are clients and im a provider and it has to stay that way...definately not easy sometimes... I felt nervous...but once we met I felt amazing and knew I was meant for this! Oh yes absolutely!! I have met ladies here that i consider now my BBF and continue to meet more and more wonderful ladies... I would say take the plunge and stop worrying...thats what we are here for and most would make you feel at ease the minute you walk in :) Oh yes It happened more then once lol...when the client walks out and you go...OMFG that was amazing!!! Make sure my room is ready...music...have a nice hot shower, get dressed up , make up and picture the encounter...gets me even more frisky!! When i meet guys that way and we spend time together...usually im very upfront with what i do...I do mention that im not working now and what he is seeing is the real me... I will let him know early so if he wants to take me out on a more intimate date...there is no secret! BJ xxx Additional Comments: I'm a early bird so I really enjoy mornings...afternoon also but when it gets too late like past 11pm...I have to get really psych to have an encounter past that time...sometimes it works good but I have turned down lots of demands after 11...unless hes a reg...then I will see him! And yes guys that call or text after midnight are not the clients you want to meet... BJ

Never had the sugar daddy experience, for most of all I don't have enough money. I think the key to a good SD/SB experience is the connection/chemistry between the two people Just the same as you can have great encounters between SP/Client, or bad encounters between SP/Client you can have a great SD/SB relationship or bad SD/SB relationship If both the lady and gentleman have a connection/chemistry and can arrange a mutually beneficial relationship a SD/SB can be a good thing If the connection/chemistry isn't there and/or the relationship isn't mutually beneficial then a SD/SB can be a bad thing The concept shouldn't be written off. But all participants must benefit Just the same as this lifestyle. It shouldn't be written off, but it must be a mutually beneficial lifestyle A rambling RG

Awesome! congrats :)

Congrats on your 2k milestone!

i find the best way is to just not answer the phone. My quitting time is 9pm, but it isn't that unusual for me to sometimes just be weary of dealing with anyone new, and while i might give out my info, i am just likely to say, not available today, but I will be tomorrow. Sometimes the idea of getting ready for someone who may or may not show up is worse later at night than it is a say 2:00 pm . They may show up, and they may not, and if not that is about 45 minutes of waiting time to find out, and by that time it is close to 10pm, so my way of dealing with being tired of dealing with people for that particular day is to just not be available after 9pm. ;) Additional Comments: 9pm is my cranky time as well. My 'hours' are 9am to 9pm, with a maybe 9am in there. it depends on if i am getting up and dealing with my pets, my coffee, and opening up the drapes, blinds and so on before actually going to get showered and ready for the day. I think that some of the sps who are late night to early morning may be in hotels. Being in my own incall, I have found that day time is easily the busier time of day, 11am to 7pm roughly. But i won't see anyone after 10pm anyway, tho the phone does still ring at 2am, 3am, 4am 5am, etc. So there is definitely something happening at those times of the night. it is just a different type of client than i am willing to see. Additional Comments: Everyone has different rates. The rates for extended dates tend to be based on their full hourly rate for the first hour, and possible discounted or lower rate for the other 3. You might see her hour rate is 300, but for 4 hours as a dinner date, not full play time date, as $750. (300 plus 3x150) You might see her charge $1200 (4 x $300) . You might see her charge $600 (300 plus 3 x $100). Some sps have a 2 hour minimum, so that same sp would be 2x300 plus discounted rate x 2 If she has a $200 hour rate, same kind of mathematics will result in different rates lol. In any case, basically, as already mentioned, you will be paying a rate for all the hours she spends with you, not based entirely on what amount of that time is going to be spent on playtime. Regardless that the meal is paid for, she is a paid companion, being a companion has a rate just as providing services has a rate.

I get excited about meeting someone from CERB especially if we've chatted prior to our date. Some I'm more nervous about if from their posts or interests I'm not sure what to expect. There are some I would love to meet just to see what they're like in person because I'm curious that way. I don't get tired of meeting people in this way but I sure did in past people related positions. Compared to things I've dealt with in the past and ignorance, denseness and gall of people, what I do now is a walk in the park...or should I say a roll in the hay! There are days you have to put on the game face prior but once with the other person, everything is great.

I really don't have any clients that their job is a turn off...really it doesn't matter. As far as jobs go that may turn me on i don't have that either...some jobs are very interesting though. I do find that guys that see me the most are the artsy type...artists of all sorts. Many doctors too. I guess being a doctor is an artist if you think about it. That being said a job is a job is a job.

masturbation after...well anything

Kind of reminds me of people that we've all had to stand behind in line-usually at a coffee shop or fast food outlet. You know who I am talking about. They get up to the cash, completely ignore the menu and ask for something that isn't offered. As annoying at a Tim's as it is out here for SP's.

I agree with you 100% Rebecca. There was another thread that outlined the same problem and it's very irritating to say the least. There are members that do not take the time to look at our profiles, our services, if we are all inclusive or if we are even an SP or MP!! The fact is, we are spending time with you and these "only ???" solicitation requests are very disrespectful. Some of the ladies do offer a single service but a few are too lazy to look and start soliciting everyone it seems to get what they want. At the very least, it's not attractive or makes a lady feel good to ask for these things before you have even met or have taken the time to check out her services and reviews. It's very tacky, cheap and undercutting. Mod has been great handling these types.... Bad apples everywhere and I now just shut them down if they do. They'll get it sooner or later I hope!