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In theory, MOD's definition is warm and fuzzy and what it should be... BUT - (sorry MOD, I doubt you have been an MA) reality is totally different. I have been asked many times as of lately what GFE really means - sadly, some have totally ruined and misrepresented this term - implied and guaranteed DFK, DATY, being fingered, FS and basically everything BUT a relaxing sensual massage. Call me prudish but there has been a change in what is expected in the massage rooms of Ottawa over the last few years. CMJ defines GFE as a "genuinely fabulous experience, girl friend experience" Just like, in REAL life, you don't connect with everyone and wouldn't want just any pretty girl or handsome guy to be your girlfriend/boyfriend. Also in real life, would you want your GF, GFE-ing it up with 5-10 different guys a day? DFK, DATY - lets not forget that now that SP's like to work in some MP's, and the fact that some MP's actively promote and encourage SP services (Blow Jobs and Full Service) in their "massage parlours", your risk for catching all kinds of STD's and STI's (both of the mouth/throat & genitalia area) have dramatically increased. Being selective and genuine is crucial not only for your health but for the longevity of the MASSAGE industry. The lines are being blurred and its very sad. I dont think that GFE guarantees DFK either.... I highly doubt you would play tonsil hockey with someone who has seriously bad gingivitis. Don't I feel sorry for the lady who feels that she can't give a great experience without having to DFK gingivitis boy. I am sorry but man this annoys me... and its a very dangerous road. Call me old fashioned but I am used to the days when GFE was a term that belonged to high end selective courtesans. As MOD said, it implies sensuality - well for me, sensual massage implies that imperatively. Things evolve and change, and I am not against that - however when you take an SP original term and try and apply it to a MA world - you get alot of confusion and blurred lines. Theory and reality are two different things. I hear my staff tell me everyday... and in my opinion, GFE "girlfriend experience" should have stayed an SP term .... hence why CMJ has had to re-define it to appropriately fit into the massage realm. Genuinely Fabulous Experience

John Caines hosts a very popular call in radio show dealing with home renovations. I would like to start a thread where cerbies could ask for suggestions and give advice regarding renos, car maintenance, electronics gardening, etc.... Let's share our hidden knowledge and abilities :) This is the "how to" thread (how to anything....scrapbooking, stainglassing, photography etc....) so share what you are knowledgeable and passionate about and ask questions about what you want to learn!

Making my mom happy... she's suffering from Alzeimer and I went to her place and gave her a bath...yes she's at that level now...although she was reluctant at first I managed to convince her and she thanked me many times...the look of releif on my dad's face...that made my day :) BJ

I think there is a shame when the word prostitute is pronounced and for me a courtesan or a companion makes it more acceptable and classy...just my honest opinion! Oufff...thats a though question!! I truly enjoy what I do and would keep doing it for a long time.....unless.. winning the lottery...no Financial worries ( might keep working still but not as much ;) Falling deeply in love and be supported financialy...:biggrin: I go with first come first serve! I have turned down a reg who contacted me last minute once and I had just got a booking who was confirmed...he suggested i cancel the other for him... No...not gonna happen sorry!

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If the lady has booked a particular date and time for an individual already, even two minutes before me, and I was the regular, I respect the premise of first come first serve. If there is any benefit to being a regular, one shouldn't be bumping a lady's scheduled encounters. As a regular, or even a new client, one thing, first and foremost is to still remember and respect that this is the lady's livelihood, and you expecting her to bump or cancel a scheduled encounter may lead to her lose that encounter for good, which equals to loss of income for her. A gentleman, especially a regular would not want to see a lady lose any income. A rambling RG Additional Comments: I had to cancel last minute once on a lady I see regularly, she got paid in full plus tip by me. While I cancelled last minute due to illness, and it wasn't my fault I got sick, but it wasn't the lady's fault at all...but why should she be at a loss because I was sick. She got compensated in full because she would otherwise be at a loss income wise because she set aside a time and date for me, a time and date I wasn't going to make. And she didn't need to ask me for a cancellation fee, I just had to find out how to get the money to her (email money transfer) A rambling RG

A hug, when it's much needed. A sense of calm and relief is almost instantaneous.

My regular of course! Reputable cerb members still might cancel, or do a no show. Having a good cerb reputation is great but it doesn't mean he'll be a good client for me. If I consider a gentleman a regular then he has been fun, reliable, someone I like and want to see again. Additional Comments: Ill retire when I loose interest in this profession. When that happens it's my time, until then I'll enjoy it;) Additional Comments: To me they are just words. We all give ourselves titles we feel appropriate and comfortable with. Call it what you like they all have the same meaning, more or less.

Yes they are wonderful compliments. The best compliment to me is repeat visits.

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

What makes you happy....makes you smile, grin from hear to hear...I know you guys will definately come up with the big "O" lol....besides to big "O"... My son just told me...hey mom listen to this: It made me happy instantly :) Doing a good deed makes me happy :) Watching my kids smile makes me happy :) Smiling to a stranger and getting a smile back...nice! Let's get some positive and happy moments here...I'm feeling happy and would like it to be contagious! Thanks for sharing :D BJ

Getting a text from my daughter to see if I'm available for a Skype session. She'll have the baby on for a visit, and he's now able to sit up and starting to recognize whats going on, on the laptop. It's such a treat watching him develop, just seven months old.

Opinion of a guy - what Erin and cmj are posting is the way things always have been and will be unfortunately. But it really is a parallel to life outside the massage service world. Guys that are rude , creepy and gross that don't know how to treat women in the 9-5 world never get laid or have a happy partner either. A key word is respect too. If guys would figure out that the girls workings as MAs don't look at a dude and say..oh I want him sticking his fingers in me right now. Ha. You pay for fantasy but these girls are real people too. Treat them like the beautiful hard working ladies they are. They have to protect their hygiene and bodies too as it is their livelihood and they need a comfort factor. Erin and cmj keep up the high standards as I have personal experience with both. When I'm done a session I know I feel fantastic and the girl feels she met a decent , clean guy that made her day better not worse. That's my two cents... jerks like that and others I think MAs should just give me a swift kick in the balls. What will they do...go home and tell their wives.

Beauty is everywhere and in everything, from an object to a person actions, you just need to look. I can honestly say since me life changed so did my perception. I find beauty in the simplest things in their purest form. A genuine laugh or smile, act of kindness, selflessness. I think as human we've grown accustom to how something should look or be that we've lost sight of what actual beauty is. I know I did, and now that my eyes and mind are open I see beauty everywhere I just have to look.

As an sp, I can honestly say I'm not a hobbiest, never have been probably never will be, I'm on the receiving end. So, to answer your question, in my humble opinion : Not very likely.

I find physical beauty boring. I'd much rather look at someone who is interesting looking, scarred, tatted, someone who has some life on them and maybe even extra weight. But what I think I now know is that kindness shows on a persons face. It shows in their eyes, smile, it's a sincerity that is unmistakeable and to me that is beauty.

People that are there at those very hard times are those to be cherished. It is those times when we all need support. You are very lucky to have such special and thoughtful clients. Additional Comments: Some are aware of how much I love animals and support shelters. So the gents that made donations on behalf of me are my most memorable gifts/favors to date.

Gentlemen, I will be at Tease this Friday, February 28th 7 pm till ? 5029 Bank 613 315 4405

OMG royal, separated at birth? I am sitting in my theater type lazy boy (cup holder, junk food receptacle etc) in my too big pj pants, eating pumpkin seeds with beer and watching .... Wait for it... American Idol and crying when they sing. I am so pathetic! Next, cheezewhiz and whatever I can find to scoop it out of the jar with. Hmmm I have salt and vinegar chips. Wait, baconnaise with cheezewhiz on my finger!

Cerb is becoming a great venue and I find that it is growing due to the ladies promoting it to gents who find them via BP et al. As a provider, I give prioriry to Cerb members so don't be shy about your handle!

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I would agree with Emma, repeat visits would be a better compliment... Means you truly enjoyed their company and would do it again.

Who doesn't like compliments? People love getting them. Compliment away. Sometimes if I compliment a client he thinks I say that to all the guys...no I only say things I mean and like this board if I have nothing nice to say I say nothing at all.

Again only speaking for myself. If your texting me I want it to read like an email. You can first ask if you have the right number but when it's confirmed I want your name etc. Believe me we can write a book on the stupid text messages and emails we get. Lol so be a gentleman and be polite.

We are judged all the time. Sad to say but true. I've been in this situation more then once..sometimes if you tell them right off what you do they think "Wow, all the free sex i can have". That isn't true by the way. wink .If you tell them later then they may walk away or they get it. Some dudes think they get it but it takes a special someone that really does. When dating someone it takes a lot more time to hit the sheets. wink

Your question is a little offensive. Might be better asked "has anyone been with" or "has anyone had an appointment with" or ... well I hope you get the point. Then "she might be worth it"? Brother, these are ladies not objects. Your not going to get much help when your questions read as rude or mean. Your name says "good guy" lets try that... little more gentleman like will get a lot more help here on cerb.

THANK YOU MOD! I dont know what is it so hard for some guys to understand that the GFE term describes a feeling.., the way how a massage session can be very intimate yet NOT NECESSARILY means that they will Get the so called "Extras" ... that the term GFE has nothing to do with An Specific Service... Is An Experience As a whole! THANK YOU AGAIN :)

i pay my accountant by the hour - i pay my lawyer by the hour -i pay my house cleaner by the hour- all professionals -why would your services be any different- except more enjoyable

Big problem in Winnipeg from what I have been told... and from the responses I get I understand why. You make a date through a "booking agency" or with a "receptionist" and the provider who shows up is not the one described to you... or worse you seen their photo online or in a magazine and it's 100% not the same person. Either way your immediate reaction is "I have been scammed". So what do you do? Do you suck it up and pay the provider then bad mouth the agency online the next day? Do you actually pay the "agreed on" price and go through with the date? Do you send them off and say "sorry, but I think a mistake has been made" and try again with a different booking agency or independent? Well if you did not send the provider away then you just gave the agency more reason to continue to bait and switch customers and you just gave the prodivder a reason to continue to work for the corrupt agency. Congratulations you just made the problem even worse! We know Winnipeg has at least 3 agencies who bait and switch customers, they use different phone numbers, emails, names, etc so we can not police this for you! You know the bait and switch agencies and scammers read this site right!!? Your fooling yourself if you think they don't. Of course they do! They may not contribute but you know they are reading the posts. Hell, they may be contributing as well. You can usually point them out, they are the ones bad mouthing the independents that you had a good time with and for some reason you feel no obligation to step in and let people you had a good time with that person - of course if they feel no way about bait and switch then you know they have no problem with a few fake bad reviews to slow down the competition - usually we spot them and delete them right away but we need your help! If you have a good time with someone LET OTHERS KNOW!!! You want to know how you can stop this? Forget bad mouthing the providers who work for these agencies, you all seem to know who they are so start letting others know of "THE GOOD" agencies or independents! Every time you post about the GOOD ones you loose business for the BAD ones as people will read these posts. We have 4000+ visitors a day log into Lyla and read the posts!! Sure, only a dozen new threads appear in Winnipeg each month right now but this will change if you post good content (Recommendations of good experiences) Just look at the views on some of the threads in Winnipeg, some have been viewed 1500 times! People are reading the site so let them know who they can visit and get a good service (honest service) from. The purpose of this site is not to bash the escorts! ... and it's definitely not to spread rumours! It's the responsibilities of the guys and the escorts to clean up the problems in Winnipeg! Let's get the Winnipeg part of this site rocking!! We have the visitors reading the posts lets see some good strong recommendations here!! Let's let all the new people and current members know who offers the best services in the city!!

I'm going Comando today :D

Feeling caught up makes me smile, so I am smiling now. Perhaps nothing makes me smile more than seeing and hearing the laughter of a little baby.

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Funny, every time this thread comes up my answer is Skittles. Today, though, sour Skittles!!!!

I think if you go read their web site you will see it is RMT so I would say answer would be no

Red, from Victoria's Secret. ; )

Congratulations! Looking forward to many more!

For myself, I would be honest and upfront from the get-go. If he had an issue with me, he wouldn't be worth my time. Just my opinion :)

When I was single this happened often. For me, I would say so by the second date, if it were a proper date. The scenario you mention, is just a meeting, so need to get personal. But the second date after you get my number, I would face to face tell you. I would rather be judged face to face rather then a txt. But as a general rule, you wont get me in bed that night anyways, you need to do a bit more then take me out to dinner one night. So no worries off my back if you think your gonna get a frebbie, lol... Then see by your reaction if I would see you again. Life is tricky, and I do not want more complications by hiding the fact.

Congrats on your first 2000 post qwertyaccount!

I certainly cannot speak for every SP. However for myself I offer a rate for this very thing. My hourly rate is $350, however my rate for a dinner date (4hrs, 2 out 2 in) is $1100. However it TOTALLY depends on the SP, so check with the individual SP :)

I find 10a-1p is my busy time but then again my hours are the way they are to accommodate other responsibilities and commitments I have. I expect I lose the afternoon business because of this but it is what it is. When I originally started I thought there would be more evening business but it didn't turn out that way. My preference is for anytime I'm able to spend time with someone!

Maple flavoured milk. Don't judge. It's DEEEEELICIOUS!

Absolutely, and hope very much that they book so I can :) hehehe As for nerves, I believe I have been more nervous meeting the women of cerb than the men!!

I never used to show my face, when I came back into the business 4 years ago - I decided since those I consider family know what i do, I have nothing to hide. I feel it has benefited my business (i have not been walked out on for not being the woman in the photo) my photos get stolen less as I show my face and personally I think it helps establish a bit of trust from those I am yet to meet. I have never been recognized in public by someone I have never met (actually once but a joke of a news reporter stalking me in an airport does not count) Showing my face is the right choice for me, but not for everyone.

When I started out on cerb I mentioned to a few clients that if they wanted to write a reco I'd be fine with it, lol. I didn't realize that it was in bad taste to do such a thing! Live and learn;) I think they are as important as they are not. By that I mean, I think there are as many gentlemen that pay attention to them, choose because of them, as not. Imo a return visit from a client is a better reward.

When you've had enough and at your wits end, having a dog come over and put his chin on your lap. Dogs KNOW when you have had a tough day... and they are the best at making you feel better.

first sip of coffee in the morning.

I always over eat so taking off my clothes to free my waist/stomach is an ahh moment.