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As someone who does most of my communications, including all first-time interactions by e-mail, I would never feel comfortable answering an introductory e-mail (or any other, to be honest) with a one line response like that. For this reason, e-mails always wait until I have sufficient time to sit down and write a personal, thoughtful response. E-mail goes to my phone, but unless it's time-senstive, it won't get answered until later on when I get home, after dinner, after I'm done entertaining, or after I'm done whatever else I need to do right now. I consider my communications as part of the whole experience I offer, and so I don't half-ass it, or rush it. Good communication (on both sides) can set the whole tone of a potential encounter, and I know that my e-mails have made new clients, or nervous folks feel 100% more confident about what may come. I don't like receiving one line e-mails, so I don't send them. But while I make special time to properly answer e-mails, I may still have spare moments throughout the day, while waiting for a guest to arrive, or waiting in line at Loblaws, to send out a tweet, bump my BP ad, etc. Also, for me, I actually do my due diligence with potential client's information, including their name, e-mail, phone number, and other information I might have about them. It takes a bit of time to run it though different bad date databases, Google, and do a few other top-secret hooker tricks. So I need to sit down and pay attention to doing these things, before I can respond to the e-mail. Also, if there is a reference to check, this can bring another party into the mix, which might also extend the response time. As well, e-mails that have all the proper information, included with a friendly introduction, always get answered much sooner the other ones that I dread answering where I have to press for more info. Sometimes I also take a day or two off, when I often cut myself off from non-essential work-related communications. If I get an e-mail on Saturday, looking for an appt next Thursday, I might not answer instantaneously. At this time I might be hanging out with my family, or Tweeting online, reading and responding to threads on CERB, or whatever else I feel like doing. Then on Monday when I consider myself "back to work", I'll take the necessary time to thoughtfully respond to gentlemen's inquiries. :) I say this, but I still often reply to e-mails on my days off; I just don't feel like I am obligated to be available 24/7 to answer inquiries. Overall I think I'm a pretty good communicator, and very good with response time. The only reason I'm responding to this thread, is that I have encountered situations exactly like this, (and I know many other ladies have too), where I've had clients who I haven't even met yet, e-mail a second time questioning me because they saw me do something online before receiving a response to their initial e-mail. While I want to be reliable, accommodating, and communicate well, a while back I made a promise to myself never to be a slave to my phone, e-mail, money or clients. Because this job can sometimes be unconventional in terms of hours & scheduling etc, it's important to set personal boundaries like this. I need time for me, otherwise I'd go crazy and wouldn't be useful or fun for anyone.

Unlike a spa location, independent and agency providers don't have a till or money box and we don't keep cash on site, I can't make change except from what the last client brought me. Honestly, the ones who need the change generally arrive with the correct donation. They've been waiting and planning for our time together; they are prepared above and beyond. During the times of my life, when $ was tight, I made sure there was no room for confusion. I do have clients that live on pension and have limited funds. They aren't the ones who ask for change. It's the men who walk in, roll off the $20's from a wad of cash that they always seem to have and then stand there expectantly waiting for a girl to go fish for the change that makes no sense to me. Funny thing, in my experience they also are the ones that seem to want to push other boundaries and ensure they "get their money's worth". A little clarification about "cheap". There is a correlation to the generousness of spirit and one's wallet that has nothing to do with a persons financial situation. It's not the act of genuinely needing the change and asking for it, it's the energy behind the ask. It's easy to feel the difference between someone who is asking out of financial necessity and one who is simply cheap by nature. Being cheap with minute amounts of cash will often reflect a miserly intention of how your share your energy and spirit. It is an anti-seducer that will dry me out faster than Mitchum applied directly to my cookie and even after adding copious amounts of lube does nothing to enhance the experience we are about to share. It's like going out to dinner where the bill is $97 and leaving $115 then waiting for the $.45 change... cat

I think there are a couple of things going on. We tend to think of what our engagement in this hobby/lifestyle, as exactly that. Certainly, it is purchasing a lady's time and companionship, and certain services that go along with that. Asking for change drives home the commodity aspect of the transaction, rather than the "relationship" aspect of the exchange. Also, it is a luxury item, so quibbling over 5 or 10 dollars, seems cheap. I have the same reaction when people complain of having to pay for parking when they visit a service provider. If you can't afford the parking, then you shouldn't be engaging in the hobby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying the exact amount requested by the provider. But I do not think that service providers can be expected to have change on hand. If one wants to pay the exact amount, then it is incumbent on the client to make sure they've figured that out in advance. I always have my money in the envelope. I have a "tip amount" tucked away and available. There are plenty of times I've had exact change, plenty of times when I've "overpaid" by 10 bucks. But to be honest, I've rarely felt like I've actually overpaid for what I received.

It really is as simple as "be prepared"... Or would you rather ask for change, and watch ten minutes of your session together be devoted to the provider having to get out her purse/wallet, hoping that she has the change? The awkward conversation if she doesn't? Congratulations, you just cock-blocked yourself ;)

This week I had the pleasure of meeting a beautiful sexy CERB Lady and as is my usual practice after entering the ladies hotel room and greeting the lady I look for an appropriate table for me to discreetly place the ladies donation. On this particular day I did just that and we proceeded with a wonderful session together. When the time came to leave we kissed and hugged a few times and I was on my way back to work. Then it happened I got a text from the lovely lady politely letting me know my donation was $40.00 short.... I immediately thought no way that's not possible... how the fuck did that happen.... I had gone to the bank on the way to the session so i knew how much I should have left... I checked and sure enough... I had $40.00 more than I should have had. I texted the lady immediately and apologized and asked if I could email the money to her which I did along with a tip. I immediately thought fuck... my reputation on CERB will be shot this was a well established lady who would certainly now let it be known that I was a flake who shorted her... thankfully she did not do that she accepted my apology and was extremely professional about it. Since then we have exchanged a few texts and are looking forward to meeting again. So why post this... well two reasons: Mistakes happen but when they do and the parties involved deal with them professionally things can work out for everyone. So that I can take this opportunity to thank Bianca Jaguar for her understanding of my mistake and for her professional approach to the issue. Thanks Bianca

Point taken. I myself used the term 'mortified' in my post. However, that wasn't based on my own judgment of people necessarily, but rather, my own discomfort at having to discuss finances explicitly with clients when we are face-to-face. I have no right to judge anyone. Conversely, many clients do try to get 'deals', or cheaper appointments if they are having financial difficulties. Unfortunately, I can't take responsibility if one of my clients can't afford to see me... It's hard not to get judgmental in this industry when I think of someone asking for change. As others have said, I do think it's the responsibility of the client him or herself to insure they have the appropriate amount. It has never happened to me (thank goodness) and I'm sure I would handle the situation gracefully. But I would be lying if I said it wouldn't throw me off. I'm just being completely honest here. Nat xox Additional Comments: Totally agree re: the labels! I need to park my judgment!

Of course they do. It is definitely a case-by-case basis. I also have clients with disabilities (both visible and invisible) and their disposable income is limited. Some of my clients save for upwards of a year to be able to afford to come and see me. Never has one of these clients asked for change, or come unprepared for our meeting. In fact, there is quite a lot of preparation that goes into these encounters (both on my part, and on the part of my client). I'm sorry you feel a lot of the generalizations in this thread are judgmental and unkind. I can definitely see how that could come across but I don't agree that the judgments are necessarily negative. Feeling uncomfortable in these situations is a very real feeling, and we all have knee-jerk reactions to the intersections of intimacy and money which may or may not be rational. Of course, if I knew one of my clients was in dire financial situations I would not judge him or her for asking for their $10. I would, however, take offense to someone who was not in dire financial need who did the same. These are all case-by-case situations, of course, and the OPs initial question was, after all, asking for a general idea of what peoples reactions would be (not specifics). I think Porthos' post gets at the core of the issue quite well, and so I won't repeat it.

I just saw Jamie Lee Curtis and spoke with her in the hotel coffee shop....She is just stunning....

You forgot sexy Mister! Beauty, brains and a dirty mind! I love this community and the variety of people here. So many different thoughts, perspectives, kinks, vanillas, support, love (and the not so great stuff too). Can I be a flagpole instead of a cornerstone? I like poles! :icon_twisted:

Regarding the label of cheap... If you went to a restaurant with friends and your bill came out to 36 dollars. If you handed two 20's and sat at the table waiting for your server to get you your two toonies every one of your friends would call you cheap, regardless of what you needed those toonies for. Your server would be standing there with an internal monologue of what did i do to upset this person, or wow this guys is cheap. The question isn't whether you need to pay more or whether anyone can question how you spend your money. If you don't want to pay that extra 5 or 10 then dont give it to her in the first place. Society is full of judgements and expectations, and this would qualify as cheap in most service industries. If you don't want to or cant afford to tip then take the extra diligence to not draw attention to the payment process.

You might want to check out the bait and switch section here http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125521 ....and she used a different name as early as last week

With respect, I really don't understand what the first part of your post has to do with this thread. Yes, sadly, there exists exploitation and harms within the industry; however, there exists the same within any other industry. I don't see why this was brought into the conversation.

While I would not consider someone asking me for change cheap as he is totally entitled to it, I agree with what many had pointed out here, most of us providers post our fees in ads, websites or/and profiles so is not like the client who walks somewhere not knowing how much he will spend. Now, if I were the kind of provider who is a clock watcher and as soon as I see the hour or two are almost over start rushing things then I would understand clients being as careful with their money as I am with my time but with me not working like that then I think someone asking me for a $5 or $10 back would be as awkward and inappropriate as me saying 'Time is up' please leave besides, for safety purposes I do not keep cash on me other than a $20 and maybe some spare change but I would find it awkward to have to go get my purse and that to give someone change back and having to count dimes, quarters. etc. to give someone change back. However IF an exceptional situation presented with someone I had previously met and let's say he knows he only has $100 bills and would need $80 back but will have no time to stop by a bank or ATM or for discretion purposes can't take money out from ATM, then as long as I'm giving enough notice I wouldn't mind having the change ready for him in an envelope same way my fee is given to me and would give it to him upon arrival after getting my envelope and as usual not mention anything about it during our time together but as I said this would be an exception and would only do it for someone I consider reliable.

I actually do see your point. And think it is great you have change available for those who don't have the exact amount. In such cases as you cite yes I wouldn't see needing change as cheap. But quoting myself, second last line in my post "Now there may be some who do need that change, but my feeling is most of the men asking for change, the same sort of guys who complain about clock watchers" I'm not talking about those who really are in need of the change, but my guess, the vast majority of clients aren't really in need of the change. I also think it is great that you do offer change. But I guess no matter which side someone cites, either now it is coming down on the side of clients having the correct amount ready, or on the side that the lady should have change available for those clients who bring too much money Personally, I am of the opinion that clients should have the correct amount available and they should not expect, nor should it be required of the lady to have change. RG

From my perspective.... If a lady says your visit is valued at $370, you put $370 in the envelope and that's it. Period. You knew up front - there was no "guesstimate" involved. I suspect you will travel past a store or bank or gas station or ?? and be able to break a $20 (or get the correct change) if it's an issue for you between your location, and the lady's. Generally speaking, you enter the lady's location, hug/kiss and place the envelope with your previously agreed amount in clear view. You enjoy your encounter and leave. Simple. For the most part, the ladies I have met rarely touch the envelope until I leave. Perhaps they peek when I go to clean up, which is fine, but it usually, is right where I placed it when I came in, throughout the encounter and when I leave. In my opinion, asking for change is just plain tacky. But, that's just this man's opinion :)

For me this issue is not about right or wrong or a guy being cheap.... i just think a guy should come prepared and not expect the lady to make change. If I did not have correct change I would consider it a tip as financially I can afford that if I could not I would understand that if I don't arrive with correct change I can't expect the lady to solve my problem. If you can plan ahead for the visit this should not be a problem. Just my opinion.

This is funny, sorry but I find it comical truly I do. :) I can't understand someone asking for change especially looking for 5/10 bucks back, lol. I recall a couple of visits where the ladies actually said " you gave me too much" wanted to hand it back, I smiled and said " you're cute, but no, that's yours,grab some lunch or dinner for yourself,enjoy"

Hoping I can make it this time...

There is only one swinging/ couples club left in Ottawa. It's open to pre registered couples and single women. Bashful and bold. It's in a industrial park and it's BYOB. I've been a couple of times and had a lot of fun actually. As for parties. There is a meet and greet held every couple of months by this couple. Last time was at a Irish pub. 350 ppl attended. No play at the pub of course but you can network and organize to meet couples in whatever way you want. Again you need to pre register with this couple directly. AFF might be a better site for you to try with your significant other. Of course if you're a single guy just looking to bang other peoples wives in an orgy setting?....... Keep dreaming. Lol

As a Habs fan, it's heartwarming to see Leafs and Sens fans consoling each other on an early golfing season, arguing only which team had the most disastrous year. Was it the one that was never very good from the start, or the one that gave their fans hope, only to collapse tremendously and thoroughly at year's end? All kidding aside, I applaud those who set petty rivalry aside long enough to cheer for the only team representing Canada this year. We're not going to win the cup, but let's give em hell, at least. ;)

Hey, great pics on bac pages so I was interested too. Found conflicting adds where she goes by Jessica. also recent adds that had pics that were in an add from 2008. All big ol red flags to me. Glad to have joined Cerb and think I am going to stick here for SP.

I think it's perfectly fine if $5 or $10 bucks does mean a lot to a person, and that this hobby should not just be for the wealthy. A lot of folks have to spend a fair bit of time saving up for the pleasure of an encounter. But, while it's OK to be in a situation where each dollar matters, it simply makes a lot more sense to have the exact change arranged ahead of time, rather than putting the onus on the lady and assuming she'll be able to provide it, and deal with the potential awkwardness of that conversation. I mean, I certainly understand that not everyone has the same level of disposable income, but I'd just hate to turn the friendly hug goodbye moment into a situation where the lady is digging through her couch cushions trying to find a few more quarters. :)

I've seen four different sps, and in making our initial contacts, three of them have taken longer to respond to email than I would prefer. Sometimes to the point that I (without basis) would think that they were ignoring me. Point being prompt email response is not the be all end all. To say that the lady would lose your business because of this is short sighted. As Savannah stated above, we all have our lives outside of work. One doesn't know someone else's situation, so it isn't fair to criticize. In each of my sp experiences, including those that took some time to get a response, I have been rewarded for waiting patiently for them to get back to me. And in one case, I have found a relationship that I treasure more than many in my life. I can't imagine giving that up for the sake of a few days.

When I first started to read this thread this morning, I grabbed my Sister and was reading it to her and I thought it was quite funny and asked her "what do I need buy now, a register or go to the bank and get rolls of loonies and toonies?". My Sister and I thought it was quite funny and knew there would be some interesting responses, I don't recall ever being asked for change in NS..... Does it make the person asking seem cheap? Yes, IMHO but if you do need it back ask and I do think it takes a big person to admit they need the change and there is no shame in that and as a quality provider you would make an effort to just look past it and move on (ya'll know you just can't book an encounter at a department store with rolled backed prices, quality paid companionship costs) or on the other hand they are just one of them cheapskate people you see on TLC, then what? you can't tell either way in most cases, give the change if you have it or give them back a 20$ to go run and get change but the onus is on them to come/have with correct amount. Provider's are not ATM's or coin dispensing machines. As we have read/heard Hobbyist's never wanted or should be treated like an ATM either.

I just wanted to add something to what I have already said.. why would it be cheap for someone to ask for change? Not every gentleman that partakes on this life style has the same disposable income... what if for what ever reason this gentleman has a very restricted budget... and what if this gentlemen for what ever reason has no other way to have intimacy with a lady... We all have responsibilities and in a way we all have a budget for our regular day to day expenses.., and Fun expenses... some people has more than others but this does NOT make the Person CHEAP or a BAD Client... and yes what if For this person in particular the 10$ can be his bus fare to get to work.., or who knows... Yes I know that as providers (MAs or SPs) we are a luxury service... I much rather some one asks me for change than have someone barganing rates... I find trying to negociate much more insulting than asking for change... And to be honest os not that 5 or 10$ what is going to make a difference for me...

Just popped in my head, but I wonder if those guys that ask for change back are the same type of guys that would complain if the lady is a clock watcher and he only got the time he paid for Just wondering out loud RG

Gentlemen would be astounded by the number of men who ask for change back but in my experience it's usually for the lower priced encounters. When I worked for an agency in Atlanta, they had appointments priced at 15 minute increments. Almost without fail, the client would arrive with $20's and want the $10/$5 change. At first I would scramble to give it, sometimes counting out quarters to ensure they got it; then the agency owner clued me in that it wasn't my responsibility to ensure they have the correct change. The clients knew the agency policy and were told on the phone to arrive with the exact amount but because I was new, they took advantage of my inexperience. I remember thinking to myself while giving it to them "If you can't afford to tip me 5/10$ then you can't afford to be paying for pussy; get your priorities straight!". Some peoples children... cat

No, never. It is embarrassing and sounds cheap to ask for change. I will rather make the effort to stop at a corner store and break it or give less tips at the end. I will not do anything to cause any uneasiness ( by asking for change) with the potential to ruin the fun.

I saw Rommy who is with a new agency here in Winnipeg and had a great time. Rommy is a super fit spinner with enhanced breasts who really gave me the GFE. Great location and atmosphere, had music and candles. Nice pre and post dual shower with great massage at end. Full length mirror in bedroom was enjoyed as well, got to see some great views :)Will repeat before she is gone.

Hi all. Just wondering if anyone has any info on this BP poster? I'm new and trying to pick my first girl and almost got hooked into a bait and switch situation previously so i'm a little cautious now. The pictures in this ad look great so if anyone can tell me if they had a good or bad experience with this girl it will be greatly appreciated. http://halifax.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sexy-blonde-ready-to-make-your-dreams-come-true-20/1695921 As a side note, I can't believe how friendly everyone is on here. I'm happy to be part of the community and look forward to my first time :)

Another milestone reached my friend. The say a picture tells a thousand stories but I find you tell many with very few words. You share with and support this community and give us part of yourself. Looking forward to more! :makeout:

After meeting a lot of SP's and mostly MA's, I find I relate more to the women that are over 25 more, then the 19 year olds. Women over 30 are more experience and know how to tease and are more intimate I find. But there are some young women that know what they are doing. But like a fine wine, some women get better with age :)

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Hmmm which cupcakes are we talking about lol

I think I compete that day. I'll be there abd free to binge on cupcakes!!

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Congrats on reaching your first 2000 posts Frank97500.... Looking forward to more to come....

Thanks for your contributions. Now on to the next 1000 :)

Text or email.....even though I have a great phone manner and a dulcet tone I prefer electronic communication. I have only spoken to a one or two SP's on the phone and those were requested confirmation calls. I don't get offended if some one doesn't return my email or text inquiries, I just move on. Peace MG

Penelope, you are beautiful and give of yourself. A certificate means nothing because if you look at what it says, it is limited. Learning, growing and providing a genuine service is what's important. If you approach things with pleasure and enjoyment in mind and begin to hone your techniques, the paper won't matter. I say go for it and with the same enthusiasm you do everything. It can only add to what you have already established.

I don't know if we're looking at things the right way. If the purpose of the study is to see if sex workers are aroused differently than other women, it wouldn't make sense for them to ask any other woman to participate. The study would probably use a few non sex workers also, as a "control" group, a group to compare sex workers to, to see how different we actually are. I don't really see much wrong with this. Grad students in universities across the world are trying to answer different types of questions about different types of issues, and in this one instance it happens to be about sex workers. I'm fine with that. I get how just a Gmail address can throw someone off but being a university student who has participated in these things before, I know that once you do email the poster they actually provide a lot of information. Even if you don't want to participate I think it might be a great idea to email the poster of the study and ask some of the questions you asked before we draw too many conclusions.

This really worries me....i don't trust the Harper Government on this issue.

For myself, there isn't any info or arrangement that i am willing to do by email, so i see no reason at all to use email for any single part of the communication. My schedule availability is in the ad, the location, general description, etc. What is not in the ad is not anything that i will provide by email, so all i end up doing in an email (or pm or messaging) is to tell the person for that info they have to call me. Which means basically you can call me at any time (within reason), you don't have to send an email to make an appt to call me, i would also find that annoying lol. So for me the no email thing is simply more efficient, What is it that you want to say or ask or suggest in an email that you cannot do in a phone call? And then in addition, if this is what the sp is requesting and suggesting, and someone does not do that, they just go their own way and email to her, she is not going to think, oh, wow, emails are awesome. She is going to read that email 12-24 hours later and say wtf, why didn't he just phone me, like the ad says, because now the time and day he was asking about is long gone, and we both might have missed out lol. I had someone insist on email only, and went back and forth maybe 10 times (5 me, 5 him) before he finally set on a time/day and made the phone call. He showed up, and he could have done all that with ONLY that one phone call. He then proceeded to try to do the exact same thing for a 2nd appt, except this time he did not phone me and he did not show up, even tho he set up a specific time. he did however send an email the morning of asking about an earlier time, an email i missed because i'm waiting for his phone call, not sitting at the computer with nothing else to do, and of course my reply did not get an answer. So, no, i am a phone call for everything sp, and because i do mention that in ads, etc, i expect that to be done and I do not feel I am missing out on anything, because i would rather not have to sit at the computer 8 hours a day reading and replying and replying again and again when everything could have been done and covered in one simple phone call.

Zoro, I hope this doesn't count as backlash, but in this my sympathies are with the lady. Now, I too will sometimes send a hello or good wish to a lady I have seen, but if they have the time and interest to reply back I consider that a bonus, not an expectation. You ask "is it so hard to reply back with a hi"....well, yes, for some maybe it is. You point out that you are busy but still have time to chat with friends on Facebook. But surely you must see for the that the relationship the ladies have with us gents here is not in any way the same as your buddies on Facebook? Now, I'm not saying some don't become friends in a way, and it's not like there aren't conversations that happen. But again, that's a bonus when it does! It seems to me that a lot of grief and hurt that happens is when people have expectations that don't get met. You asked an honest question, but the answer I think is that, in this case, the expectation may be unrealistic. To be frank, when a lady shares her time with us we are not buying the right to her friendship. And if a lady doesn't have time to carry on pleasantries with every past client that is her right. And consider this, if they do give a quick hello back, does that not just encourage future messages? If there is no time or interest in such, isn't it better just to make that clear early? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong to offer the occasional hello or see if someone wants to have a conversation. But they are not wrong or even rude if they don't want to take you up on it. Best.

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