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You can't look at this business as a by-the-hour salary. We don't work eight hours a day, five days a week. The time and money that goes into replying to message boards, replying to emails, posting ads, taking phone calls, self-care/hygiene, photo shoots, the cost of maintaining an incall or transportation to outcalls, website upkeep, travel costs for touring etc. eats into that "per hour" figure as well. This business also ebbs and flows, and there are downtimes that balance out busy periods. We don't have sick time or vacation pay. Yes, this can be a very touchy subject, especially when there are assumptions made. Additional Comments: 1. They're not "selling themselves". We sell a service, not our bodies. Let's not use the same language abolitionist groups use when creating moral panic and conflating human trafficking with sex work. 2. "Too cheap" -- according to whom? There are many reasons why someone chooses to set their rates at what they are, and quite honestly, it's not up to us to judge. There is no regulatory board that oversees our industry. To some people, my rates can be "too high" or "too low". To that, I say that is none of your business. It's MY business. My rates have increased since I started in this business, as I figured out what my expenses were and how often I wanted to work. They are at a price-point which allows me to see the clients I want to see while maintaining a modest lifestyle and going to school. It has afforded me some opportunities I wouldn't ordinarily have, like buying my first car, but at the same time, I don't feel I am living an extravagant lifestyle (it was a great deal on a used car). There is always going to be someone with lower rates or higher rates than you. That is how this business, and all businesses work. Stop looking at other providers and comparing yourself to them; concentrate on your own self. It's not a matter of "s/he's stealing clients from me", IMHO, but rather "what am *I* doing to attract and retain clients?" 3. Let's not make assumptions about what a "lower" price-point implies, especially when it's making potentially stigmatizing and dangerous statements about having a pimp or drug addiction. We don't know their situation. I'm honestly quite surprised that this thread is still going on, just as I was surprised to see in another thread a provider pose the question of someone she had never met being underage. Statements like the ones in this thread have the possibility of impacting someone else's business and well-being, and not in a good way.

I must agree, I love cat's response to this forgotten thread. In my opinion sexuality has nothing to do with age. Granted, some younger ladies may be "in it for the money" but let's not pull out the tar and feathers! I hate assumptions and stereotypes! Don't forget, that that can be reversed! The goal is to find someone that attracts you whether it be physically, intellectually, emotionally or a combination of all or one or two. As long as you have had a great time, is that not the goal?

I really appreciate email as an initial contact. My query is what is the anticipated response time? I will honestly say that I won't even check my email on my personal days. Sometimes this may be 4 days in a row! To me, email indicates a future date...days maybe even weeks from now. Same day will probably never happen via email. I have things to do, a life lol! My most important form of communication for my life is texting because of its discretion when surrounded by others. My ads state that texting is the preferred method. So...all that to say that it may take more than 24hrs and up to 4 days to respond to an email. That is my business model and I won't apologize for it. At some point, someone said that we should review our business practices and maybe not spend so much time on twitter etc and spend more time answering our emails. My reply to that is that we have the right to have free time and do with that free time what we wish. A lot of ladies have schedules and calendars that are indicated on our websites. Perhaps a cursory view of the site prior to contact would make the whole scheduling aspect easy peasy!

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Additional Comments: Hi all, Prairie girl here. I would love to attend this one ,as I will be out there around that time Could I come???????? Please please, Xoxo

I don't see what the big deal is with an SP coming to your home. We are expected to have gentlemen in our homes, with the same thoughts of 'is he casing the joint' and do I come home to en empty place some day, or he turns up at some point when it's completely inconvenient (has happened!). We let you into our homes, why are we not let into yours? Discretion is one thing that I have noticed on this site, it is very prevalent here, and the ladies are outstanding in this. I don't believe that any lady advertising on this site would ever do anything to compromise the situation, but I do feel more comfortable going to the home of a gentleman if I have met him before. Timing things properly, and the lady being respectful of the situation (I could be your accountant coming to visit you), we dress appropriately for the public, its whats underneath that the public doesn't see is what counts, and what happens AFTER the door is shut! lol

Count me in too :) BJ

Looking forward to the date! I will pick up a door prize again for a lucky lady ;)

Trust is a two way street:) If I can trust you to come into my space then you should be able to trust me to come to yours. If a lady is reputable, has a trail, website, reco's etc, then why the worry? The largest part of our business model is discretion and trust. Happy hobbying:)

I also liked the tribute they paid to Teemu Selanne in Anaheim. He was named all 3 stars of the game, and at the end, he skated a lap with former teammate Sebastien Giguere. A great tribute to a fantastic player and a great person. And Go Habs Go!!!

HUGE hockey fan! Go Boston!

Personally I would have no issues with seeing a lady at my place. The ladies I now see (granted after a bit of learning and experience) I trust, so I wouldn't be worried about the silverware being stolen LOL All that said, the biggest obstacle to hosting in my own place is that I live in smalltown Ontario, and it would be far to long a drive to get here But I do like hosting, which is why I like outcalls to my hotel. But irrespective of my preference , it's first and foremost what the lady feels comfortable doing. A rambling RG

This is going to be great. Count me in please.

Count me in for the 12!

You might want to try SabrinaR at Angel's Touch spa.

A couple of points I'd like to bring up. I'm seeing far too many people comparing lower-priced SP's to McDonald's or Baskin-Robbins, when in fact, even the lowest prices are well into the high-end luxury market. Even if somebody is "only" charging $100/hr, how many other businesses do you know that can charge that much? Second point, some people have mentioned that they are now retired on fixed-income. Perhaps this has more to do with the reduced prices? The previously high-flying Ottawa market is now coming back down to Earth.

I can attend June 12th! that would be perfect! Can I come? LEt me know how to secure a spot!

count me in too xo

Thank you so much for the invite. I wont miss this one......will plan my tour around it Looking forward to it!!! Xoxo

I'm in....but you regulars knew that already, lol

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Wow... Really? Clearly you took nothing from the other thread you said this on last year. You seem to think that we just answer an email, lay on our backs and make a boat load of money - that we shouldn't be so ungrateful as to not rush to answer your email as we need to respect your money and time... And yet you cannot respect our time!?? Whether a lady does this full time or part time, it's a full time job. Answering emails, maintaining ads, keeping up their web presence, texting clients, making appointment arrangements, booking hotels, booking travel, making plans, upkeeping their blog, twitter account and website, arranging for new photos, I could go on. Oh right, and in addition to all of this, she's also building and maintaining relationships with her clients... Friendship, trust, etc. Then there's the "working days" themselves. And by the way? Outside of this industry, they are REAL PEOPLE!!! Some mothers, some wives, some girlfriends, some students, all homeowners or renters who have dishes to wash, laundry to do, and meals to prepare. Never mind a little something called downtime!!! I don't think you realize for a second how mentally, emotionally and physically taxing this profession is. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade it for the world. I LOVE it. But it is not "EASY MONEY". If you want the respect of an SP, and want her to be eager to reply to your emails, try showing a little respect yourself.

If you have read some of my posts you will already know that I am a big hockey fan.... yep Toronto Maple Leafs.... and I have noticed over the years that people are more than happy to point out a the negatives about hockey so i thought I would point out a couple of recent hockey stories that show it in a more positive light... First... i have posted a link to a youtube video of the recent Rich Peverley event when he collapsed at the bench due to a cardiac event... he was saved and is ok but as you watch the video notice how all the players stop and support each other... the game is eventually canceled but it shows that while they battle hard with each other it is a game. http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jivQgF6J1g The second story I would refer you to is the Ryan Smyth retirement last night in Edmonton.. at the start of the game he skated on the ice with his son.... and then as the game ended he sat on the bench crying as the crowd stood and clapped. Just two high points in hockey this season Just my opinion

Well here in PEI I believe that we got the weather that you have been enjoying in Ottawa for the last few days. It was almost 20 degrees and I was outside! I did more lawn raking around the melting snow drifts and actually cleaned out my first few flower beds. Bring it on!

This is a good thread, thanks for posting it. I've often thought of asking an SP over but after much thought and reading different musings here on CERB, I've kind of got the fealing that in general terms only, most SPs would prefer a venue of their choice or 4 or 5 start hotel. Having said that I'm going to revisit the idea as I'm single with kids in college and a big empty house that I'm rather comformatble in and enjoy entertaining. Thanks again!

Way to funny.... It's "plane" to see that this is an airline that takes customer feedback serious.... they will look into every "crack" of their organization to ensure that each and every customer is fully satisfied and "cums" off their plane smiling. LOL

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Finally got to walk down a street in Charlottetown with no jacket on, enjoying the warm weather today not so nice tomorrow, spring is close.

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well its stil very warm here in Montréal...its 18 degrees...and raining! Oh nooooo...I'm heading to Ottawa tomorrow :( why is it always shitty weather when I travel...:confused0024: Not here yet...feels like a rainy summer day this morning... I have a solution...lets all book a trip to Cancun...NOW! :icon_biggrin:

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Count me in! Only 2 months to wait...

I've never had it happen. Some ladies have said they denied entry because they recognised the person. Could be someone from their private life that they don't want knowing about their other life. You can't take stuff like this personally, shrug your shoulders and move on eh.

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I just have rates that are based on the 20s coming out of ATMs. I don't have a 150 rate, for that reason, even tho maybe 150 or 250 makes more 'sense' so to speak, for this purpose it really doesn't. Same as having a half hour at 125 or even 130, that to me sounds like maybe, slightly, someone thought about it seriously knowing that someone is going to come with multiples of 20s and not ask for change. i am left with that impression, even if it is not the intention lol. But in general, if you don't want to give the extra as tip, bring the correct amount, it is clear in her ads or conversation what that is. Bring an additional bill or two if you think it is possible you might want to voluntarily tip, but many of us do not keep cash on the premises, and if we do, it is most likely also multiples of 20s and so unlikely we will have a 5 or 10 hanging around. Larger bills tend to be an exception. if someone brings 2 x 100, and then on arrival decides on a half hour at 120, clearly they are going to need change or the sp will be looking at giving an involuntary discount lol. Some guys are fairly clueless tho, if they are new to this. One guy showed up asking 'you take debit?" well, no I don't not for this anyway. same with CCs, it is a cash based biz, and you are not going to a business location with CC processors or reception desks, and cash registers, so exact change is always the best way to ensure you are not giving an involuntary tip.

Oh, it's a very political issue. What I am saying is that Harper will do whatever is politically expedient to continue a successful government. My definition of a successful government is one that stays in power. That means keeping the vote. From our perspective, that just may mean more of the same in terms of legislation. Keeping it safe and neutral.

It really is as simple as "be prepared"... Or would you rather ask for change, and watch ten minutes of your session together be devoted to the provider having to get out her purse/wallet, hoping that she has the change? The awkward conversation if she doesn't? Congratulations, you just cock-blocked yourself ;)

In all seriousness Ice4Fun I see your point and agree with you. It just shows that we all realize, whether in sports, politics, whatever, it isn't or shouldn't be personal. I think we saw the same sort of thing with the passing of Jim Flaherty. While politicians of all political stripes day to day would be in opposition to one another, those political allegiances came down and recognized the passing of a fellow human being Hope that came out right RG

Based on the comments received so far, i'm making it official! Our next social gathering will be on June 12th!!! So mark your calanders, and more details to come on this very thread.

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I like Jill way more than Quinn . Jill is younger and has more energy. When you call ask for Jill.

Ug, these threads make me very uncomfortable, especially the way they tend to evolve. It seems like most of the time everyone agrees that each lady should get to run her business the way they see fit. But it seems like invariably these sort of conversations turn into judgements on others (even if simply by implication) and hurt feelings. Better not to make assumptions, especially in this industry, and especially about people. Do what works for you and what makes you feel good.

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I can only speak for myself. When I see a lady it is because there is something about her that interests me, that something, a connection, clicking if you will (and yes her looks too ;-) ) are what matter. If I am lucky to meet a companion that I like, even more lucky if I like that companion enough to continue to see her, and most of all fortunate enough that that companion will agree to see me, guess what, I'm not even looking at some lady offering her companionship at reduced rates From my perspective, sorry to phrase it this way considering the nature of this lifestyle, but this isn't about the most bang for your buck. For me it is about meeting and developing special connections with ladies who offer companionship. Companionship being much more than just a sex. And when those connections are made, a new less expensive companion isn't going to even draw my attention. In short, the dollar rate isn't what decides for me who to see, it is the lady herself that decides for me if I'll see her. In short a lower dollar rate won't undercut my client loyalty nor will it affect my choice in companion to see Hope that makes sense A rambling RG

I think it's up to everyone to set their own rates. It's a personal decision, and one based on a lot of factors that we might not necessarily know about. "Do 'they' even know the cost of living in Canada?" I'm assuming you're talking about recent immigrants of migrant laborers? I'm sure they do know the cost of living here, but need to make a certain amount of money to make ends meet. I have no idea, we aren't walking in their shoes after all... Ultimately we can't judge. We don't know anything about their lives or what determined their rates, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with self-respect or fairplay either... it's just people trying to make a living in ways they see fit. These things have a tendency of working themselves out. I'm really sorry it's making life difficult for you, Eve. I think that the really good clients, clients who are respectful and kind, will continue to see the ladies they want, regardless of the cost. I don't think it will drive your prices down at all. People are always transitioning in and out of the industry... Those that stick around (like you) and have good reputations (like you) will be successful in the long run. We need to hold our judgment and be in solidarity with one another. It's a tough industry! Just my two cents, Nat xox

Good old Peter Mackay I am ashamed to say is a Maritimer. One good thing we have going for us is that we know he doesn't keep his promises. Remember this one when he was the last leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. " I will never form an alliance with the Reform Party." So don't be too surprised if he fails to deliver on his promise of new legislation.