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Well, while we wait for the ladies to chime in, there's this. To me, the clock starts when I walk in. The hugs, the kisses, the chit-chat are all part of the experience and the shower time is also counted. More importantly, were I enjoying the pleasure of your company, time is up when you say it is. Period. If it's at the 29 minute mark or 39, it is your time, your business, your decision. IMHO, sounds like you met a Class A twit.

for me the time should start when the client says hello to the provider. The provider is offering time. When you go to a lawyer or accountant, the clock starts as soon as you sit down

Karina it is all up to you. You are your boss and you call the shots, never should a client be allowed to push you or anyone into a corner or tell you how a session is going to go. If a client books at 4 for a 1/2 hr appt then 4:30 his time is up-simple! If you want to give him a little extra that is up to you, but you ARE NOT obligated. Especially if he is ill mannered.

For an in-call the time starts at the agreed upon start time. Which in this case was 4 PM. He should have had his clothes back on and walking out your door to leave your place at 4:30 PM sharp. If he shows up 15 minutes late. That means he has lost 15 minutes of playtime. Again -- He should have had his clothes back on and walking out your door to leave your place at 4:30 PM sharp. If he gave you a call to say he is running a little late. Then it is your discretion at when the adjusted start time and end time will be. In this case he was only booking 30 minutes. Again -- He should have his clothes back on and walking out your door 30 minute after he arrived. But that is just my opinion.

well that's one of the ways that the board works, another function it has is the ability to ask other people if they have seen a certain sp and their opinion on them, especially if you are unsure or skeptical about seeing one. so don't be an ass :butt:

Some sps are very strict about that start and end time, as in if the appt is 4pm, for half hour, they must leave at 4:30 even if they arrive at 4:15. It depends on how accurate you are with your own timing, tho to pull that off. And that is for sps who have prebooked appts, and times, and they must stay on schedule without deviation. There really aren't too many sps who work on that firm schedule, but i think the majority of us will say arrival at the door time to end time has to be within that 30 minute range. Half hour guys are only taking showers if they already know they aren't using or needing 30 minute activity time. maybe a quick rinse, or cleanup the area, hands, mouthwash, bathroom break (not in that order) a couple of minutes, no sp minds that, but dilly dallying around first, then saying they are taking a shower, if we;ve spent 5 minutes on chit chat or canoodling and then he tells me now he wants a shower, I am not feeling quite so generous with my half hour of time. now everything is going to be cut shorter than i would like because instead of 2-3 minutes prior to starting, we are looking at a full 10 minutes into the half hour for 'everything'. Is that always possible? Not without rushing thru something, no. And if you don't this is a guy who will not be in and out within the time he paid for. Sure 5 minutes here or there, no one minds that, especially if that time is in the shower lol. But 4pm to 4:40, and he still isn't gone let alone done, or wants to argue about the amount of time left? No. And that is because i offer a 45 minutes option. This is a 45 minute guy. He wants to chat, take a shower, then get started and needs 30 minute activity time, tell him next time the best option for him is to take 45 minutes, which you do at XX $. His option for the half hour is to understand the half hour doesn't come with an unrushed session of going overtime. No half hour sessions are for guys who need or want more time than that. It is often for the guys who want to be in and out within 30 minutes because they need to be somewhere else, it isn't supposed to be for the guy who wants or needs 45 minutes but too cheap to pay the hour rate to get it.

4 PM sweetie. Good thing he didn't book an hour. You might have had to stop for coffee break or tea time ;)

I think it is pretty clear to most people that if you book an appointment for a half hour and the time is from 4 pm to 4:30 pm then the clock starts at 4 pm, unless the SP is late (and she is coming to see you) then the clock starts when she arrives. If she lets you go beyond the agreed time then that is a bonus and one should just enjoy! I know I do!

Hi Karina, Technically the clock does start on arrival and if the client would like to shower he should do so immediately before any type of intimacy takes place. It depends on the client. If you're talking, embracing, kissing and starting to connect, it should be a part of the time together. Another idea is to jump in the shower with him to make it a part of the encounter. Thirty minute appointments can be tricky and it sounds like this client would like a social connection as well. Perhaps you can suggest an extension in time together for your next encounter as that may be more suited to what he's seeking?

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The time was up at 4:30, sorry. I hate to get all business but we are expected to be punctual and I feel a client should be as well. I often go over time but it is at my discretion. If you showed up 15 minutes late and he had things to so and people to see that would have messed up his day. Curtesy is a two way street.

Traffic problems etc do happen which is why the majority of ladies won't book back to back appointments. So....IMHO the time starts once you pass the threshold (of course any late arrivals should be communicated to the lady...especially anything later than 10 to 15 minutes). Please don't view this as us being clock watchers. It's just a matter of respect for each other's time and possible other commitments either personal or professional. PS being early is sometimes worse than being late lol

To me the clock starts when you walk in the door. You may (at your discretion) give him the time for a shower...a quick thorough shower, but that's up to you. A client is paying for your time, not for what happens during that time. If he choses to spend time in a thirty minute encounter engaged in conversation, guess what, the clock is ticking. Even social time still is time. If he wants an encounter to include social time (conversation etc) he should book longer encounters But I think BC Guy is right, you had a class A twit for a client My two cents RG

Yes. Google Analytics is where it's at. Also Google Webmaster Tools is very useful as well. It gives even more info about keyword search terms, which Google Analytics hides or shows as: (not provided). And it also shows where improvements for search optimization can be made. Plus other interactive features like the ability to ask Google to crawl your site when you make changes or add pages, etc. All free. :)

another idea is to add it to your list of fetish services offered. Add it to your advertising as an option ... then those who are interested can inquire and request that service. The gents will get used to seeing it in your advertising, then when an inquiry comes up like "who offers porn sessions" your name will be the one they recommend. For example, I always offer an outfit request and a beverage choice, and gents have become used to requesting a different outfit each time they see me. When someone posts a thread like "who offers outfit requests" my name invariably comes up.

How is it different than Google analytics?

I would like to nominate as Goddess of the Day, Carrie Moon.

That's why I purchased my 13" MacBook Pro in 2009 & I haven't used my Windows PC since then. My stupid company/job still uses Windows, mostly XP & Vista. Mac OS X is far superior and a lot more intelligent and user friendly than Windows & more fun than Unix/Linux, IMHO. No rebooting every day, no virus/trojans/worms, etc. and a lot easier to be more productive and effective. Sorry Window lovers. I just love my Mac! But to each their own. I'll get down from my soap box. lol

your so interested...book her and post a review...that's what the board is for..

I agree with what the others have said. I had a similar situation. Only the lady was visiting me in my home and it was our 2nd date. She insisted that she wanted to stay. It was obvious she was not up to it. I tended to her like I would any other sick friend. (Blanket, tea, flat ginger ale, soup, soda crackers, Gravol, Tylenol.) She took a nap (alone) for a couple of hours. She declined the donation but I stuck it in her coat pocket anyway. The rest is history - we saw each other (professionally) for about two years. Always treat people with dignity and respect. Expect nothing in return. When you least expect it someone will do the same for you.

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Me personally I don't have any tattoos. I grew up in an era that tattoos were worn by soldiers, sailors and inmates. And I almost had one back in my army days, not by choice, I was drunk, and a couple buddies were going to chip in and get me tattooed. Thank god they didn't have enough money. Now it is commonplace. If I put one on it just would be for the sake of having one put on, it wouldn't hold any special meaning. But I have been with some ladies who do have tattoos, and I find it compliments their beauty. I would say I love tattoos on a lady who wants them. But body art is personal, and no one should pressure someone into wearing a tattoo, nor should someone sit in judgement of those have tattoos, or don't have tattoos. It is a personal decision, not for me to sit in judgement of. But that said, I do find on those ladies who have them, it compliments their beauty. A rambling RG

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0 hits doesn't mean they aren't downloaded pictures, it can mean tineye or google just hasn't hit them yet. In saying that 0 hits can also mean they are the owners pictures as well. My point is not to just rely image searches for conformation of fact.

u guys troll the internet looking for new ads and a name to post here.maybe u should try to get some "ass".name calling is very "mature" thought this board was for adults???

It may seem like an explosion, but really this is just Winnipeg catching up. Clearly there is sufficient demand. I am noticing that prices are starting to moderate which is probably a good thing, in the short term. It's likely that prices will begin rising once the market is more saturated.

I absolutely understand the shyness and it can be a formidable challenge in the beginning. You probably won't have to ask for rates just because they aren't posted on an ad, all you have to do is initiate the contact. If a provider has chosen not to post her rates, she's prepared to share them long before you arrive at her door. I send an introduction with all the pertinent details along with my website information to every potential guest who sends an email that consists of actual words instead text abbreviations or the infamous one liner emails. What I seek in a guest is a gentleman who actually "gets" what I bring to the table which is a willingness to engage and communicate on every level with my guests. I don't expect men to read all the details of my ads because they usually focus on certain aspects while glossing over others. I want guests to ask questions so I can answer clearly; presenting what I offer that makes an experience with me unique and what I expect from a potential paramour. I appreciate the dialogue and the opportunity to find out more about a potential encounter so I can assess if we are a good fit. The most important thing to me is that we are on the same page with expectations and anticipations. For me, not posting my consideration is an invitation to engage. If I put out all the juicy bits, the only thing left is for a guest to chose a dat and time but I find guests often want an opportunity to get a feel for the woman behind the pictures. We all know this is an industry based on fantasy but the very best guests for me are the men who want a woman who is herself, comfortable in her skin and who enjoys her career. These men want the opportunity to get to know me a bit before they make their decision and being able to ask a question is an excellent way to break the ice... cat Additional Comments: Warped88, I'm so sorry, I'm not sure how that smilie got on there! I apologize, I don't think you're a wanker and I can't edit it... cat

I know this is a question for the guys but I did walk in to an outcall and on a few occasion porn was playing on the TV and personally I dont enjoy it...I dont mind if he watches it before i get there but prefer if he turns it off once I arrive...just my opinion...

This is just me -- I am sure some people may be into that sort of thing. I prefer focusing on the lady with little or no distractions. After all, she is the one I am there to see. Porn is very expensive when you consider everyone has different tastes. Perhaps investing in sexy outfits or soft cuffs, or blindfold, or feather duster, or small vibrating toy, might be a better choice. Good vibrations and all that... Just an idea....

There has been some excellent and appropriate advice here. I especially life Jafo's suggestion above. Good Karma.

Groceries and these shoes:)

I'm new to all this, only being with one lady (twice) so far, but I found the final hug and kiss a little awkward. Not that I disliked it in anyway. Quite the opposite, really: I'd love a more passionate goodbye, I'm sure. :) But, as someone new to the lifestyle, I think the passion, friendliness, and genuine caring of the lady was a little bit of a surprise. One can read volumes on encounters and what to expect, but until it's actually experienced... Which is my way of saying to the ladies, don't let us awkward newbies stop you from being you and don't give up on us. ;)

no leftovers? ;)

Good point Cristy...and come on guys enough with the back and forth jabs...let's move on.

For what it's worth, in my 15+ years of being an escort, was only asked maybe 3 times if I had any porn. However, like Cristy said, I have gone to many an outcall where the guy had porn on when I got there.

agreed she is an amazing cute and passionate woman.

Well it was late on a sunday night and I live in a very small town ... I figured I might get some quick tips here and I did! I have an appointment today at 3pm with a vet who knows lizards, but there is no "exotic pet" specialist in my area. oh good to know!! I did try the mealworms and he ate one right away but he did struggle a bit with it so I will squish their heads from now on. Gawd that's gross. uugghh... thanks for everyone's good wishes ... he already looks better ... maybe he just missed me!

Unfortunately this is how a handful of dancers behave. I've seen dancers glare at "their" customers from the stage because they're sitting with another dancer -- or worse, going to the back for a dance. I've seen customers appear to be scared to even look at other dancers, lest "their" dancer notice. It boggles my mind why some dancers think it's appropriate to behave in such a territorial manner -- it's not like the dancers are only dancing for that customer and there is exclusivity -- but I think you see that more during quiet times in the club, when there isn't a heck of a lot going on. Instead of totally avoiding the club, try going when it's a bit busier a few times, even if the dancer in question happens to be there -- she'll be busy herself and hopefully get accustomed to you spending time with other girls. At the very least, just be upfront (though polite) next time she approaches that you're not interested. It seems like her wrath was directed at the other dancer rather than you, so as long as you're polite, you may be alright. Though I can certainly see how such an experience would leave a sour taste in your mouth! It's a shame that some dancers ruin the joy of strip clubbing (a variety of beautiful ladies all in one place!) for fear that they lose out on some money. Sharing is caring, and sometimes it leads to duos -- easily my second favourite part of the job. ;)

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Just to chime in here for a quick second. I normally will exchange numbers to text and book an appointment, my latest arrangements were through email only, and I can honestly say, it has been a first in the longest time. It worked out perfectly, even right to the 5 minute mark before the appointment to get proper instructions for room number etc etc. In today's world everyone has a smart phone, probably with email, so it works just as efficient as texting. I have never had an issue, furthermore, I won't get uptight if there is no response after my first sent email, as some or most ladies have other jobs/school OR that they are busy with their own life. The key is to be polite, word your words properly, and things always work out if you act like a gentleman by your first impressions.

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It really is as simple as "be prepared"... Or would you rather ask for change, and watch ten minutes of your session together be devoted to the provider having to get out her purse/wallet, hoping that she has the change? The awkward conversation if she doesn't? Congratulations, you just cock-blocked yourself ;)

Regarding the label of cheap... If you went to a restaurant with friends and your bill came out to 36 dollars. If you handed two 20's and sat at the table waiting for your server to get you your two toonies every one of your friends would call you cheap, regardless of what you needed those toonies for. Your server would be standing there with an internal monologue of what did i do to upset this person, or wow this guys is cheap. The question isn't whether you need to pay more or whether anyone can question how you spend your money. If you don't want to pay that extra 5 or 10 then dont give it to her in the first place. Society is full of judgements and expectations, and this would qualify as cheap in most service industries. If you don't want to or cant afford to tip then take the extra diligence to not draw attention to the payment process.

Enjoy gentlemen! ;) Let me know if you think I am what you are looking for....

is it just me thinking this, but if you have enough make up on after(!) that you are worried about leaving traces perhaps something went terribly wrong? Are we just sweaty messes in the end? Or is that just me?

Like everyone else here, I do enjoy a long hug and some long passionate kisses when bidding a fond farewell. These long passionate hugs and kisses are equally important to me in the beginning and during the encounter. I find it not very memorable when she rushes to see you off without those acts. Sometimes, some other gestures could be very endearing as well. I remember after a lovely session recently with a reputable cerb lady here; when I bent down and put on my shoes, she lovingly touched up the hair on the back of my head and whispered gently "you don't want everyone to know that you just had sex!". It was such an adorable and unforgettable act that I will always remember her fondly!

What signs? It has been explained elsewhere on this board about the process of getting a bill passed and into law. Even if they were going with the Nordic model, and that is a big "if", it would take months if not a year for it to get through the house. It is not even been drafted yet, let alone ever started going through all the steps. As for your estimate of how long before it is challenged, I think you are way off on that one as well. If the Government tries to put a law in place that clearly ignores the supreme court ruling in regards to the specific portions of the Criminal code that were struck down, then I don't think anyone would be convicted. First the Nordic model does not outlaw selling of sexual services, so then that is still a legal job, even though nobody can buy. But the Nordic model also outlaws brothels, and living off the avails, which is in direct contravention of the SCC ruling. One of the key conditions of that ruling was that selling sex was still legal. That condition is met in the Nordic model, so putting back the same restrictions would not be accepted. Judges would not convict, and most smart prosecutors would not prosecute because they do not like having their rulings overturned. The SCC ruling is a legal precedent that most defense counsels would use, and challenges and appeals to that would not take as long even if there was a conviction. The court has examined all the evidence and ruled. They will not try and put this model in place, they know what the rulings meant. However, as we see, even from the Liberal policy convention, everybody is trying to avoid taking a position. They are going to analyze it, and seek input, it will get delayed procedurally, it will die on the order paper. They know they have two choices, either outright criminalization, or regulation. They talk about Nordic to keep the uneducated masses happy, but they know it will not work.

And shave them nuts son. Ain't nobody like sucking on no hairy shit.