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Well, while we wait for the ladies to chime in, there's this. To me, the clock starts when I walk in. The hugs, the kisses, the chit-chat are all part of the experience and the shower time is also counted. More importantly, were I enjoying the pleasure of your company, time is up when you say it is. Period. If it's at the 29 minute mark or 39, it is your time, your business, your decision. IMHO, sounds like you met a Class A twit.

for me the time should start when the client says hello to the provider. The provider is offering time. When you go to a lawyer or accountant, the clock starts as soon as you sit down

Karina it is all up to you. You are your boss and you call the shots, never should a client be allowed to push you or anyone into a corner or tell you how a session is going to go. If a client books at 4 for a 1/2 hr appt then 4:30 his time is up-simple! If you want to give him a little extra that is up to you, but you ARE NOT obligated. Especially if he is ill mannered.

For an in-call the time starts at the agreed upon start time. Which in this case was 4 PM. He should have had his clothes back on and walking out your door to leave your place at 4:30 PM sharp. If he shows up 15 minutes late. That means he has lost 15 minutes of playtime. Again -- He should have had his clothes back on and walking out your door to leave your place at 4:30 PM sharp. If he gave you a call to say he is running a little late. Then it is your discretion at when the adjusted start time and end time will be. In this case he was only booking 30 minutes. Again -- He should have his clothes back on and walking out your door 30 minute after he arrived. But that is just my opinion.

well that's one of the ways that the board works, another function it has is the ability to ask other people if they have seen a certain sp and their opinion on them, especially if you are unsure or skeptical about seeing one. so don't be an ass :butt:

Some sps are very strict about that start and end time, as in if the appt is 4pm, for half hour, they must leave at 4:30 even if they arrive at 4:15. It depends on how accurate you are with your own timing, tho to pull that off. And that is for sps who have prebooked appts, and times, and they must stay on schedule without deviation. There really aren't too many sps who work on that firm schedule, but i think the majority of us will say arrival at the door time to end time has to be within that 30 minute range. Half hour guys are only taking showers if they already know they aren't using or needing 30 minute activity time. maybe a quick rinse, or cleanup the area, hands, mouthwash, bathroom break (not in that order) a couple of minutes, no sp minds that, but dilly dallying around first, then saying they are taking a shower, if we;ve spent 5 minutes on chit chat or canoodling and then he tells me now he wants a shower, I am not feeling quite so generous with my half hour of time. now everything is going to be cut shorter than i would like because instead of 2-3 minutes prior to starting, we are looking at a full 10 minutes into the half hour for 'everything'. Is that always possible? Not without rushing thru something, no. And if you don't this is a guy who will not be in and out within the time he paid for. Sure 5 minutes here or there, no one minds that, especially if that time is in the shower lol. But 4pm to 4:40, and he still isn't gone let alone done, or wants to argue about the amount of time left? No. And that is because i offer a 45 minutes option. This is a 45 minute guy. He wants to chat, take a shower, then get started and needs 30 minute activity time, tell him next time the best option for him is to take 45 minutes, which you do at XX $. His option for the half hour is to understand the half hour doesn't come with an unrushed session of going overtime. No half hour sessions are for guys who need or want more time than that. It is often for the guys who want to be in and out within 30 minutes because they need to be somewhere else, it isn't supposed to be for the guy who wants or needs 45 minutes but too cheap to pay the hour rate to get it.

4 PM sweetie. Good thing he didn't book an hour. You might have had to stop for coffee break or tea time ;)

I think it is pretty clear to most people that if you book an appointment for a half hour and the time is from 4 pm to 4:30 pm then the clock starts at 4 pm, unless the SP is late (and she is coming to see you) then the clock starts when she arrives. If she lets you go beyond the agreed time then that is a bonus and one should just enjoy! I know I do!

Hi Karina, Technically the clock does start on arrival and if the client would like to shower he should do so immediately before any type of intimacy takes place. It depends on the client. If you're talking, embracing, kissing and starting to connect, it should be a part of the time together. Another idea is to jump in the shower with him to make it a part of the encounter. Thirty minute appointments can be tricky and it sounds like this client would like a social connection as well. Perhaps you can suggest an extension in time together for your next encounter as that may be more suited to what he's seeking?

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The time was up at 4:30, sorry. I hate to get all business but we are expected to be punctual and I feel a client should be as well. I often go over time but it is at my discretion. If you showed up 15 minutes late and he had things to so and people to see that would have messed up his day. Curtesy is a two way street.

Traffic problems etc do happen which is why the majority of ladies won't book back to back appointments. So....IMHO the time starts once you pass the threshold (of course any late arrivals should be communicated to the lady...especially anything later than 10 to 15 minutes). Please don't view this as us being clock watchers. It's just a matter of respect for each other's time and possible other commitments either personal or professional. PS being early is sometimes worse than being late lol

To me the clock starts when you walk in the door. You may (at your discretion) give him the time for a shower...a quick thorough shower, but that's up to you. A client is paying for your time, not for what happens during that time. If he choses to spend time in a thirty minute encounter engaged in conversation, guess what, the clock is ticking. Even social time still is time. If he wants an encounter to include social time (conversation etc) he should book longer encounters But I think BC Guy is right, you had a class A twit for a client My two cents RG

Yes. Google Analytics is where it's at. Also Google Webmaster Tools is very useful as well. It gives even more info about keyword search terms, which Google Analytics hides or shows as: (not provided). And it also shows where improvements for search optimization can be made. Plus other interactive features like the ability to ask Google to crawl your site when you make changes or add pages, etc. All free. :)

another idea is to add it to your list of fetish services offered. Add it to your advertising as an option ... then those who are interested can inquire and request that service. The gents will get used to seeing it in your advertising, then when an inquiry comes up like "who offers porn sessions" your name will be the one they recommend. For example, I always offer an outfit request and a beverage choice, and gents have become used to requesting a different outfit each time they see me. When someone posts a thread like "who offers outfit requests" my name invariably comes up.

How is it different than Google analytics?

I would like to nominate as Goddess of the Day, Carrie Moon.

That's why I purchased my 13" MacBook Pro in 2009 & I haven't used my Windows PC since then. My stupid company/job still uses Windows, mostly XP & Vista. Mac OS X is far superior and a lot more intelligent and user friendly than Windows & more fun than Unix/Linux, IMHO. No rebooting every day, no virus/trojans/worms, etc. and a lot easier to be more productive and effective. Sorry Window lovers. I just love my Mac! But to each their own. I'll get down from my soap box. lol

your so interested...book her and post a review...that's what the board is for..

I agree with what the others have said. I had a similar situation. Only the lady was visiting me in my home and it was our 2nd date. She insisted that she wanted to stay. It was obvious she was not up to it. I tended to her like I would any other sick friend. (Blanket, tea, flat ginger ale, soup, soda crackers, Gravol, Tylenol.) She took a nap (alone) for a couple of hours. She declined the donation but I stuck it in her coat pocket anyway. The rest is history - we saw each other (professionally) for about two years. Always treat people with dignity and respect. Expect nothing in return. When you least expect it someone will do the same for you.

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Me personally I don't have any tattoos. I grew up in an era that tattoos were worn by soldiers, sailors and inmates. And I almost had one back in my army days, not by choice, I was drunk, and a couple buddies were going to chip in and get me tattooed. Thank god they didn't have enough money. Now it is commonplace. If I put one on it just would be for the sake of having one put on, it wouldn't hold any special meaning. But I have been with some ladies who do have tattoos, and I find it compliments their beauty. I would say I love tattoos on a lady who wants them. But body art is personal, and no one should pressure someone into wearing a tattoo, nor should someone sit in judgement of those have tattoos, or don't have tattoos. It is a personal decision, not for me to sit in judgement of. But that said, I do find on those ladies who have them, it compliments their beauty. A rambling RG

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0 hits doesn't mean they aren't downloaded pictures, it can mean tineye or google just hasn't hit them yet. In saying that 0 hits can also mean they are the owners pictures as well. My point is not to just rely image searches for conformation of fact.

u guys troll the internet looking for new ads and a name to post here.maybe u should try to get some "ass".name calling is very "mature" thought this board was for adults???

It may seem like an explosion, but really this is just Winnipeg catching up. Clearly there is sufficient demand. I am noticing that prices are starting to moderate which is probably a good thing, in the short term. It's likely that prices will begin rising once the market is more saturated.

I absolutely understand the shyness and it can be a formidable challenge in the beginning. You probably won't have to ask for rates just because they aren't posted on an ad, all you have to do is initiate the contact. If a provider has chosen not to post her rates, she's prepared to share them long before you arrive at her door. I send an introduction with all the pertinent details along with my website information to every potential guest who sends an email that consists of actual words instead text abbreviations or the infamous one liner emails. What I seek in a guest is a gentleman who actually "gets" what I bring to the table which is a willingness to engage and communicate on every level with my guests. I don't expect men to read all the details of my ads because they usually focus on certain aspects while glossing over others. I want guests to ask questions so I can answer clearly; presenting what I offer that makes an experience with me unique and what I expect from a potential paramour. I appreciate the dialogue and the opportunity to find out more about a potential encounter so I can assess if we are a good fit. The most important thing to me is that we are on the same page with expectations and anticipations. For me, not posting my consideration is an invitation to engage. If I put out all the juicy bits, the only thing left is for a guest to chose a dat and time but I find guests often want an opportunity to get a feel for the woman behind the pictures. We all know this is an industry based on fantasy but the very best guests for me are the men who want a woman who is herself, comfortable in her skin and who enjoys her career. These men want the opportunity to get to know me a bit before they make their decision and being able to ask a question is an excellent way to break the ice... cat Additional Comments: Warped88, I'm so sorry, I'm not sure how that smilie got on there! I apologize, I don't think you're a wanker and I can't edit it... cat

I know this is a question for the guys but I did walk in to an outcall and on a few occasion porn was playing on the TV and personally I dont enjoy it...I dont mind if he watches it before i get there but prefer if he turns it off once I arrive...just my opinion...

This is just me -- I am sure some people may be into that sort of thing. I prefer focusing on the lady with little or no distractions. After all, she is the one I am there to see. Porn is very expensive when you consider everyone has different tastes. Perhaps investing in sexy outfits or soft cuffs, or blindfold, or feather duster, or small vibrating toy, might be a better choice. Good vibrations and all that... Just an idea....

There has been some excellent and appropriate advice here. I especially life Jafo's suggestion above. Good Karma.

Groceries and these shoes:)

I'm new to all this, only being with one lady (twice) so far, but I found the final hug and kiss a little awkward. Not that I disliked it in anyway. Quite the opposite, really: I'd love a more passionate goodbye, I'm sure. :) But, as someone new to the lifestyle, I think the passion, friendliness, and genuine caring of the lady was a little bit of a surprise. One can read volumes on encounters and what to expect, but until it's actually experienced... Which is my way of saying to the ladies, don't let us awkward newbies stop you from being you and don't give up on us. ;)

I've been writing a little bit and wondered how this is. Spelling/grammar unchecked ad I wrote it in my phone lol. She walked through the door of my office, closing it softly behind her. As I took my eyes from my monitor briefly to peek at her. She was coyly biting her lip while standing by the door. Her posture, surprisingly excellent, with arms holding her notebook low in front of her. She wore black plastic rimmed glasses on her beautiful brown eyes. A white blouses extremely low cut, her long hair cascading over her perky breasts so teasingly. Her surprisingly short grey skirt hugged her tightly. "Come in." I say to her in soft words She walks towards the chair with long and slow strides crossing over with each step, the powerful sound of stiletto heels. She stands in front of the chair and asks "may I... Sir" with her pouty lips as she motions toward it. "Yes, you may" I respond authoritatively. She sits, crossing her right leg over the left double crossing her ankles. Her thigh exposed now revealing where the garter meets the silker black stocking.The chair, far enough from the desk that I catch a glimpse of her white tipped toes peeping through the front of the open toed black stilettos she adorned her tiny feet. "My name is Ginger Adams" she stated "I'm applying for the position". "I got your email" in fact I was just freshening up on it "you have an interesting set of skills. Proficient in mandarin, Cantonese, English, French, Italian, well the list of languages goes on!" "Well sir, I've travelled my whole life, my father worked with the Military." she said proudly. Interesting I though "you know this service caters mainly to young professional and wealthy men?" I asked. "I do" she said contently "What have you learned, in your travels, about men?" "Well..." She lights a cigarette and draws upon it "they all want the same thing." She finally replied then blew a thin line of smoke into the air. "what is it, what do thy want?" "Me" she said with in the sexiest way possible.

I have a few Twitter accounts, depending on the type of people, expertise, interests, hobbies, etc. that I cater to in those individual accounts. They keep me informed about various aspects that interest me the most. I allow them to research & notify me (their other followers) of stuff that's occurring in those particular interests, without me having to google the stuff myself. Keeping it all my iPhone/iPad allows me to go through my day and still keep in touch with other parts of the world. When I have a brain overload, I stop and regroup what's and who's most important in my life. Twitter is great fun & free, so it's worth you trying it out to see for yourself. I don't like Facebook. It's too similar to MySpace (lack of) mentality, but it does who for other people. I hope this helps you, Cristy. I would love to get you started or chat more about your interest, if you want.

Watching a porn? Not really. Making one? That's different :D

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I just want to point out quickly that some people are allergic to coconut oil. I don't believe there is a known allergy when it comes to eating it, but contact dermatitis is something that a rare few will experience. If you are thinking about using it, try it out as a lotion for a few days and see how your skin reacts. My skin does NOT handle it well, and because of that I would never want to use it as a lube. I actually have to read beauty product ingredients carefully to make sure there is no coconut oil in anything I put on my skin. So while it is amazing for some people, just give it a trial run before you commit to buying a lot.

I've not seriously considered this question from the provider's point of view. So, every reason stated here makes absolute sense. Just from my point of view as a client, I'm typically shy upon first contact and asking for rates is something still new and a little uncomfortable for me. That said, I have no issues if someone doesn't do so.: You know, I gotta be a man sometimes and just ask. ;) However, simply because of my nature, I'm VERY appreciative of those who do and even more appreciative of those who take the time to maintain a great website. It makes first contact much smoother. So, thanks. :) Anyway....

I haven't been around much in the last 5-6 months and I have no idea who has been mentioned in this thread but here are my 2(.5) Goddesses of the day, all for their own unique individual qualities: JoyfulC Lexy Grace ... ... ... LeeRichards I know, I know. Lee is not an SP or a woman but he can be my sexy Goddess any time he wants! ;)

Since you offered to pay and she accepted and said she would make the session up to you, then give her benefit of doubt she'll keep her word. The fact that you have already seen her 5 times indicates to me you have a connection. I don't really see a problem. I think it's better she was honest with you about feeling ill rather than attempting to work when she was sick which no doubt would have left you unsatisfied. Life happens and although not pleasant just is what it is. I don't see you needing to worry about it.

Nothing, I'm naked sitting in bed, sipping green tea and posting on cerb:)

When I'm at home I barely wear anything. Right now I'm wearing at shirt, no panties. I hate wearing socks in the house, as soon as I get home panties and socks have to come off.

I have one :)

I always leave with a hard-on, weither it's a light kiss or a dfk probably wouldn't change a thing. ;)

Well speaking only for me, I do like the goodbye hug and kiss. It is, I guess closure for the evening, if that is the right word, and is a physical showing of mutual affection and respect for one another. As for a possible lipstick stain, well most of my encounters are outcalls to my hotel, and I am single too. So I wash up before I go home the next day, but even if I didn't I'm single so who cares One other thing, and it happened to me once in this lifestyle, is saying goodnight and giving a kiss goodnight when you are having a sleepover. Nothing more comforting than that kiss goodnight, the lights turned off, drifting off to sleep, knowing you will wake up in a few hours with a beautiful Goddess beside you, one you can say good morning too. A rambling RG

As you can see it is not only my advice but the advice of several others senior members on this board as well. What makes you think that you are entitled to just show up and start demanding information and then get your panties in such a wad when we do not trip over ourselves to provide you with everything you demand? Did your mommy wipe your ass until you were a teenager and always tell you how special you were? Newsflash, this is the real world and we simply do not give a shit about you and how special you were to your mommy. Grow up and realize that fact. When in a new place one must always pay attention to the culture and ethos of the place and at least appear to respect those. The new place can be a physical place or a virtual place like this forum. On just about every forum on line that I have been involved in across a wide spectrum of topics, there are always a few posters who have by virtue of longevity or the nature of their posts risen to a senior status. These posters have to be shown at least a little respect or you will get absolutely nowhere on the forum. Show some respect for the culture of the forum, here we provide information and then receive information in return. The majority of the really good information is usually sent by PM once a level of trust is established and to do that you need to post some information in a respectful manner or all you will get is replies like this while I'll get a lot of thank yous and nominations for putting you in your place, just like several others who have done the same to your childish rants have gotten. By coming in here and pissing us off you have just about guaranteed that you will have a hard time getting any useful information out of us. Now tell me did your little hissy fit make you feel so much better that it will be worth the long term hassle of being considered a non-contributor and unworthy of receiving any information that you seek?

Any guys who are still wondering why some SPs ask for references or conduct screening should read this. AND THEN QUIT WHINING ABOUT IT. FOREVER.

Green squares are like green lights: positive. Red squares were negative points and are now gone. Grey squares are neutral: the person does not have enough posts to be able to give rep points. Best, toine