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At the end of the day, no matter what type of business people are involved in, self employed or not, we all go to work because we want to earn a paycheck/make money so we can meet our weekly/monthly obligations (and then some). We all have the same motivations; I do not know of anyone who would gladly go to work 4-5-6 days a week for free (unless they are volunteering for something). BUT and here's my big BUT, some people are happy with only looking at the bottom line as long as it pays their bills while others care about much more than that: looking forward to going to work, loving what we do, feeling happy and comfortable and actually enjoying ourselves while earning that paycheck. In the SP context, some ladies will be happy to provide a quick, straight forward service to whomever. On the other hand, some of us rather offer an unrushed experience where a connection (and compatibility) is present. It's not just about the money. It's about much more than that. Two different extremes, two different worlds. There is no wrong or right here. We all have our reasons for doing what we do and how we get there is also very personal. As always, to each their own (and yes, I mean it just in case someone decides to insinuate otherwise). It's great that you have found what works for you and your clients. You (and them) seem to be on the same page and that's awesome! :) Many of the gentlemen who look for that connection are married or are in a relationship (and yes, some are single too) but it doesn't mean they are looking to get divorced or find a new girlfriend or a new best friend. They are simply looking for more than the exchange of fluids or sexual acts during an encounter ;) From a companion that finds one hour appointments too rushed and stressful and loves to establish that connection with her future patrons and cultivate the current one :) xox

I posted her review prior to this post it's in recomendation threads!!

You should write a proper recommendation on Lola in the section of the city you saw her in. Sounds like you had a great time and I'm sure she would appreciate a rec written, otherwise your great experience will be lost over time.

Here for a limited time, but back again soon :) Cum wish this beautiful girl farewell and good luck on her trip out West... No it's not for long but I know you'll miss me, so get in here and let me give you something to remember ;) A Brief Yet Sexy Description Of Yours Truly Ever dreamt of being with a runway model? Well here's your chance to have one sashay into your room and fulfill your every desire. I am a tall red head with breathtaking blue eyes and legs that are to die for. Heart stopping good looks and a playful demeanor that will leave you begging for more... Sexy Services That Will Blow Your Mind A phenomenal full body massage Body slides that will make you quiver and tremble with desire Reverse massages and the opportunity to run your hands up and down my smooth, silky bod Steamy and sensual showers for 2 Very open to couples sessions Love, love, looove catering to the ladies :wink: PM me for more information on my sexy services :wink: Availability And Location (Angels Touch) Today from 10am until 9pm (Angels Touch) Monday from 9am until 7pm (Angels Touch) Tuesday from 9am until 4pm (Angels Touch) Sunday from 10am until 9pm How To Contact This Sexy Temptress Call to book some sexy time with me at 613-274-7073, PM me, or email me at [email protected] ***Also, be sure to check out my recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...t=victoriascrt ***

Things that will make me cranky if you contact me and do them: 1. one word texts. e.g. hi 2. using terms of endearment when we've never met. e.g. hun, sweetie, baby 3. trying to negotiate the rate after I've said it's not negotiable 4. asking if I do bareback full service 5. Via email, asking if I'm available now Things that will make me cranky in person: 1. bad breath 2. dirty hands 3. body odour 4. cheese dick (this one will get you kicked right out of my incall because it is honestly the grossest thing ever and an affront to my senses, not to mention disrespectful) 5. asking for bareback sex 6. asking for my real name 7. asking for future discounts because "you'll be my regular" 8. washing your dick in the sink and getting water everywhere. If you're that dirty, just get in the shower. 9. sucking on my clit like you're some sort of sexual vacuum cleaner. 10. talking shit and/or gossiping about other providers

A photo is already a lie... This article by Molly Crabapple regarding photos is on point: http://www.vice.com/read/photo-real-on-photoshop-feminism-and-truth

Last week I setup a meet with Lola Cherie, she accepted my request to meet. I informed her fully who I was to my surprise she had agreed to meet. Now my nerves really kick in. Anxiety, fear excitement. As the door opened she greeted me with a gentle kiss arousing every sense in my body. She is stunning and captivating everything I hoped it may have been and so much more than I had ever expected. For almost 4 hours I had the most passionate sex of my life. The way she looked into my eyes and how her body responded to every slight motion I made. Her scent, her voice and her smile resonate in my mind and send shivers down my spine everytime I close my eyes. I fell hard mixed emotions and many fears all subsided when my lips were pressed on hers. Lola you are simply amazing, a rush of life in me a deep desire to see you again and again. Where did you come from? I am head over heels and I know many of you will say I'm silly but this feels real.

OMG! Going for a run .... Literally after being in a car for 13 hours. Never have I ever thought I would almost orgasm at the thought of running (I've already orgasmed once while running lol) sooooooooo good! Lol see you soon Saskatchewan xox

Just asking outloud, but would you also ask this of women you date, your SO (be it wife/CL) or your girlfriend, well anyone you are intimate is...or do you just want to restrict that question for SP's only. And will you provide the same information to the companions you see, not to mention your SO, girlfriend and anyone you are intimate with RG

To me, I hope and think it is the respect that is offered to the women. In reading some blogs, etc., from women in the industry, forced and negative reviews can be quite difficult and demeaning. My experience here is limited, but this format and spirit of community seems to minimize the odds of overt pressures on the providers to go beyond their comfort levels simply for artificial ratings. I know nothing is that simple, and there will always be people who will attempt to manipulate a system in their favour, but the moderation and stated mission of cerb seem to keep the discourse and interactions respectful. Probably more than was asked for, but it is an important aspect of this to me. :)

I'm always amazed that wearing a condom for oral is even an issue anymore. Seldom does a client even realize I've put the condom on him until things get serious. I can't count the number of men who have stopped me and asked me to put one on when I straddle for little cowgirl. It's fun to watch them reach down for a feel to ensure it's there because they didn't feel it during the oral. A little planning ahead and voila! If a CoB finish has been requested then it disappears without them seeing or feeling it come off as well. I couldn't imagine a playdate without oral. It's the jump off point where I do my initial inspection and decide what's on the menu for the visit then roll into other activities. It's the perfect opportunity to get him suited up so no matter what our next activity is, we are ready to rumble with no time wasted fumbling with the wrapper or figuring out which side is up! My routine is so pat that I can feel the right side of the condom with my tongue but can't see it without my glasses on and fumbling for readers just doesn't keep my juices flowing... cat

If I'm especially excited, I find I can last longer with a cbj, and I'd certainly call that a pro. And while I understand oral is a fairly safe activity relatively speaking, personally I enjoy the peace of mind I get from having the extra precaution taken, which lets me relax and enjoy the sensations all the more. But I suppose the biggest pro of a covered blow job is that you're getting a blow job!!!

Get em in Get em up Get em off Get em out That's what a 15 minute session is all about. Not much fun for the lady.

For me that is enough time to answer the door, let the lady in pour the glass of wine and we start the conversation, either getting to know one another if the companion and I don't know each other, or reconnecting if I'm having a encounter with a companion who is more a friend. I personally prefer longer encounters, now I like four hour encounter. And I have had very memorable encounters where roughly two and a half hours of that four hours were spent in the living room of the hotel suite with the lady just reconnecting and enjoying each other's company. So for me, and speaking for me only, a fifteen minute encounter would be a very empty encounter, serving primarily one purpose. That is not to criticize those that seek such encounters out, it's just not for me A rambling RG

There's much more to an encounter than an orgasm. Take time to have conversation over drinks. Spend time getting to know one another. Then go to the bedroom. Being intimate with a lady, and just my opinion, is much more enjoyable with someone you spent time getting to know a little. After sex, and you orgasm, continue to lie in bed with the lady, kiss, cuddle, conversation. Ladies are much more than providers of sex, they are providers of companionship. And companionship is special My two cents RG

Please join me in bidding Carrie Moon farewell as she is leaving Ottawa this week to move to the Niagara region. Carrie was one of the first escorts I met back in 2002 when I decided to get back into the business as an indy. She has been a source of inspiration and generosity. She has often gone beyond the call of duty to help me and other ladies in this industry. I will miss her. (Thank goodness for technology). Note: Some people were asking me if Carrie is retiring. Just to be perfectly clear - NO Carrie is NOT retiring, simply moving!

I was reading another thread in which the comment was made that the gentleman booked an appointment, arrived and while the SP was the lady in the pictures, they were taken in a way that "left out" certain aspects. Now my first comment is that every SP, no matter who they are, takes pictures in a way that plays up their best features and downplays others. Honestly, we as people have a good side and a bad side and features that look better certain ways. When a picture is presented, it is to entice people to delve deeper into the "who" and stir the senses to the point of wanting to meet. I'll use myself as an example, I advertise as a voluptuous woman, a BBW, rubenesque etc. I use those terms consistently and throughout. When it comes to my pictures, I focus more on my face than other areas because I believe the face is very expressive of both inner and outer nature (where in many cases it's the body that is the focus and not the face). Would this be viewed as misleading because you don't see the whole package even though the body type is very much presented? Or is it that perhaps with all the labels bandied about that BBW, Curvy, voluptuous etc. have a certain mental image and reality can sometimes be outside this? This is just an aspect I hadn't thought of and would like insight from those who are showing up at doors unknown about what constitutes "misleading"

I've lost track of how many times I've seen Shay now, but the most recent visit, a couple of weeks ago, was especially good. Sometimes we just leap on the bed and get right at it, but this time we talked, because we hadn't seen each other in a while, and we got caught up. It felt good as we talked frankly about all sorts of things, and then the kissing started, and the stripping, and the fondling. Shay's ass is one of the wonders of the world:), just check out her albums to see what I mean... Playing, eating, kissing, fucking..."Harder, harder, harder", she encourages, and you deeply want to satisfy her, she's so desirable, and you go with the moment and the rush and the intensity of it all. The climax is surreal, and you know there'll be more, and there is. That's Shay. One of the greats.

Photo (s) drive my initial curiosity. It's true that some people are more photogenic than others which can present surprises both good and bad. I prefer very current pictures a year or two old at the most as things can and do change quickly. I like to see a true representation of body type, I'm not an fan of enhancements to it's nice to be able to determine that as well by photo as well. I also find that it's not reliable to read someones opinion on looks without seeing a current photo because we all have such very different taste and preferences. What some one thinks is attractive may strike me as ho hum and obviously vice-versa. If I have the slightest doubt, I move along. Peace MG

There are many indicators that an ad may be too good to be true and the picture is just one.... I have found that if you rake your time...and do your appropriate research... ie. read her ads, check her posts, see if she has recommendations from reputable CERB members than your chances of a successful encounter us very very very high and in most cases what you see when the beautiful lady opens the door will exceed expectations. Hey.... if there are no recommendations... and the ad sounds too good to be true....... think.... What would your mother tell you. lololol Just my opinion

Glad to hear you had a terrific encounter. Excellent memories are part of what this is all about in my opinion. "I am head over heels and I know many of you will say I'm silly but this feels real." I don't think you're silly but--remembering the emotions you expressed when you first started this thread--I hope you won't mind if I presume and offer a few words of caution. This can be a healthy lifestyle and you may find some healing and happiness here both...but don't let your heart run away from you or you may end up hurting yourself. "Feels real" and "real" are very different things, and while it's great when we make a connection with someone here, and while that connection can be real as far as it goes, just don't forget the "as far as it goes" part. :) Take a few deep breaths, enjoy the memory and feelings, but keep your head and don't lose sight of the boundaries of these relationships. If I'm reading too much into that last sentence, then I apologize, and I hope you know I say this with the best intentions. Good luck to you!

I do my best to show myself as I am . I don't wear heavy makeup and photo shot my images at all. However just as Tracey mentioned we have sides or better parts and sometimes we work around this. I like to talk about myself only and as an example I have lean and muscular body . This does not really show to my determent but there is no doubt when you view my photos I am very fit. So I would choose clothing and posses that flatter the feminine side of me I would not present a photo of me in a posing suit doing a front double bicep, enough said there. Every lady I meet has a different body, face etc. and there are many different men that appreciate different looks. So best to be who you are and the right person that is truly attracted to you will find you.

It's all marketing, and while there are no formal rules for it, the terms, like in any advertisement, should be relatively clear: The ad is going to absolutely emphasize the positives and minimize those things that may be viewed as negatives by some, while highlighting features they feel are unique/special. I think that the only expectation beyond this would be that the ad doesn't actively lie - dramatic Photoshop, different person, etc. If someone is expecting anyone to be without imperfections of any sort, simply because they did not specifically state them in their ad, they are being unrealistic. No one puts "I like to take long lunches and occasionally check the internet for sports scores" on their resume. Yet, I think that may describe more than one or two people that I know.

Actually in my experience, the ladies I've seen, their photos were if anything, a reasonable facsimile of who I was seeing, if that's the right way to phrase it. But if I knew how beautiful these ladies really were, my already weak knees would have given out on the way to answering the door. Guess in a long winded way, the photos of the ladies I've seen haven't been misleading, unless you count the lady being even more beautiful than her photos as misleading. Some ladies do in fact hide their faces, or cover up tattoos. That isn't in my opinion misleading. Ladies may have other lives and not wish their faces, or tattoos or anything else unique and identifying showing. That's not being misleading. Just because a professional companion is offering and allowing you to see her intimately doesn't mean she has to provide identifying photos on the web where the whole world can see. If she wanted to do that she could pose for Playboy and receive compensation for the photos she provides Misleading photos to me are a lady who uses someone else's photos, not her own. But to answer your question Tracie, and with the caveat we haven't met, but with your photos and how you describe yourself, that is an honest reflection of you, I don't believe you are misleading anyone Now when I schedule an encounter and the lady meets me, am I misleading her with my avatar photo of John Malkovich ;-) A rambling RG

As some ladies have said, some of us like I do, entitle MSOG. I am multi-orgasmic myself and really don't see the point of preventing a gentleman to cum as much as he wants. But even so I like to spend time cuddling, kissing and talking between each fun and I am pretty sure U will enjoy this GFE time with the ladies who offer MSOG. We, both U and I or the ladies, R not machines so take your time in between each orgasms and enjoy and I do understand it was different with some ladies U have been seeing but like most said U R in the right place on CERB. Now U have fun but most of all relax and enjoy! Barbara

Shania Twain Man I Feel Like A Woman and this version :-) RG

Sometimes it is just a mental barrier that blocks someone from allowing themselves to enjoy the sensation of a cbj. Sometimes the sensation is actually blocked because the sp's condom choice is not a good one (trojans, bleh), or she failed to use a warming lubricant INSIDE the condom, and you must must must use your hands before slapping a condom on and bobbing for apples. Everything is in the preparation, to the extent that a talented cbj provider gets the client to a point at which when the cbj happens, he is soon at the point to either go for it or stop suddenly or there is no FS part. Other pros are the sp is extremely enthusiastic, and can do this for a longer time than a bbbj provider, because cbjs are safer. The bbbj provider who doesn't offer CIM is always having to be alert to the signs of CIM, and has to abruptly stop, change or whatever to avoid it. Apparently many who do provide the CIM, run off to spit it out, so that isn't very sexy either. All cbj providers are able to CIM because it is cCIM lol. Also facials, unlikely with cbj, for obvious reasons, but are also not that popular for bbbj providers, so the chance of it happening is already slim. COB easy to do for cbj or bbbj. Just out of the condom, and voila. Not really a big dance. And yes, slipping from cbj to FS, seamless.

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A few I have seen in the past couple of years: 1: Lady had photoshopped her pics to make her bust way bigger and her waist smaller. She was plenty attractive without the 'shopping so I don't know why she did it. 2: Lady airbrushed over all her tattoos. It would be ok if she had blurred them, that would not be so misleading. Giving the impression you have no tats when you are actually covered in them is not fair. 3: Touring lady using glamour style studio shots. When I go see her she has no make up, no lingerie, and coke bottle glasses. Hotel room is a pigsty. Paid top dollar and I consider that definite bait and switch. Contrast these with say, Victoria Jolie who was exactly as advertised, even wore the exact outfit she had in her ad. Or Riley, who has simple straightforward pics that are exactly what you get.

I've posted in this discussion many months ago but have noticed some things happening with the 15 minute requests. What I don't like is it's become something that many men think it's the status quo. I don't offer them, I don't have anything against other ladies that offer them but lately I've had some uncalled for type comments after refusing them. "Give me a discount. I'm a student". "I only need 10 minutes and I only have xxx amount of money." " I can't afford your rates". Yet they keep on trying AFTER I said no. The self entitlement with some individuals is appalling. This is a luxury service, not a necessity like putting food on the table. Where are the boundaries with some of these people? To be blunt, this is what upsets me about 15 minute appts and with men who want them contacting me after it's clearly stated in my ad that I don't offer them. They don't take no for an answer. There is a new generation of clients out there and frankly I am old school where rarely did I see negotiations, the self entitlement and the rudeness. While there may be men out there who are polite when making these requests, I have rarely been addressed by them myself. Like I said before, I don't judge other SPs for offering them but I do have a problem when a lot of men from other sites think it's a given that SPs offer 15 minute appts. Many don't read the ads and they are very short ads!

Yes the definition of the girl next store will vary from person to person. In my civilian life my relationships have been with women who didn't own/wear makeup, own a curling iron or even a hair dryer and who also have a bit of a hippie look to them. All were great looking and often had no idea they were or it just didn't matter to them. They were the girls in high school or in a circle of friends who didn't get much attention or interest and then 5 or 10 years later it was...yikes how did we miss that ? Except I didn't :) This might not be others ideas of the girl next store look but it's mine. Peace MG

Just to add my two cents. I thing the time set should respected on both sides. Half hour, hour, 45 min whatever. You're paying for time. Having said that i have found some ladies using the "do you want to take a shower?" as a ploy to reduce the amount of time. So i take a shower before i see the lady and reply "no I just took one, thank you." I have also found - more in the massage industry - that the clock in the room is 5 to 10 minutes ahead of mine. So I confirm the time when I arrive. lets all be respectful of people's time

Wow, performed by Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison, and Tom Petty -- a sweet and wonderful oldie! Thanks, Cleo.

Duos are fairly rare here but today I had the absolute pleasure of getting to see Lyka for a second time, the thrill of meeting Electra for the first time and both at the same time. It was an afternoon I won't soon forget. Both ladies are exotic, sensuous, thrill inducing fantasy fulfillers. They put a smile on my face that I can't shake. I was afraid to blink in case I missed anything. I can only hope they find their way back here soon.

Probably best to keep this to yourself and just not go there, if you don't feel comfortable. Spa owners usually have an idea of what is going on so they will find out if they don't already know. I wouldn't get involved but that is just me. You are likely to get some PM's asking whom the MA is! LOL

15 minutes would not work for me but if an SP wants to offer it and clients want it.... then God Bless I am delighted they found something that works for them. Bottom line there us no right or wrong... there are as many viable options are there is people in the industry... do what works for you.

Plus some of the ones that seem to be indy are with some unknown agency and are a lot older than advertised. It is embarrassing for some of us to walk away when we see that the lady is a lot older than advertised. Some of these ladies probably do not know what was advertised. One agency seemed to have a group of 40+ aged asian ladies being advertised as in their early 20s and was using the new hotel in the west part of Wpg. For that reason I have not bothered trying any of those ads after twice regretting having stayed, but changed to hh session once there. One time there were 2 ladies in the same apartment and offered to have both for an extra fee - refused but the second lady did participate a little before staying in the washroom the rest of the time. Sounds great but was not that exciting.

I really hope this comes off the way I mean it and not abrasive. I can squirt, and get as many ladies I am sure am asked this question. Just because I can, doesn't mean I can do so on demand. I an not a machine or a circus clown. If you choose to spend an hour or so with me and this is something that important to you it really stresses me out to have you try and make this happen. Please think before you try to make this part of our date. Women are human beings and as such please don't force this . Perhaps a gentleman can last for hours or have several fantastic orgasms in a certain time frame. Great, but I bet no man would want to be pressured into doing so on demand. If I may borrow RG's line. K's rambling's.

Theres nothing like taking control, non stop until he cant control himself and explodes deep in your throat.

It's standard procedure that a clinic or even your doctor's office will only contact you if your test results are positive. I have never been offered a copy of the test results, but I suppose I could get a copy if I requested. But for reasons mentioned above, the results on that piece of paper are only as accurate as the day they were printed on. Bottom line is it's impolite and 99% guaranteed you will be declined for a date.

For fine dining in Charlottetown there are a number of choices but perhaps a number 1 choice might be The Pilot House.

Wondering if this is the same Raven as from Barb's in the past!?!?!

As an SP, I offer an "experience" not to be a "cum bucket" for someone's release for lack of better words. No thanks. If I'm going to be just a release for somone, they are going to be paying for it. I'm not a machine and a 15 min appt is not worth it to me since it takes the same amount of time to set up and get ready. Then there is the aspect of those trying to get more time for free and then there is the volume where how many clients are coming and going in a day. I am a very discrete person and would never allow this to happen when I can make more on a single appt alone. I'm not an avid clock watcher but when someone texts me with a laundry lists of specific acts they want for $60 for 15 mins or expect what they would get in a 30 or 60 min appt, do yourself a favor a favor and go to a street corner. I take time and pride in what I do and myself and my surroundings reflect that as well. I have no interest in doing these types of appts and contrary to men who are fans of 15 min service, you get what you pay for. In a fantasy world, if I did one of these 15 mins appts, it would be the bare minimum. Why should I go out of my way when someone is attempting to negotiate my rates? Why should I go the extra mile? I had someone text me once and said they only needed 5 mins of my time for $20. DELETE! If you're looking for a 15 min session then more power to you but don't expect the world for $60. Last year a 15 min appt was $100. Then it went to $80 and now guys are demanding $60. The reason this is happening because women let them. They get into this business with no training from an agency. They have a cell phone, put up a BP ad and call themselves an escort. Then some men bully them into giving them service for $60 -$80 and often times let manipulate them into staying overtime for the same rate. Some of these women don't know any better. The real sense of having an experience with an escort is long forgotten such as when I first started as an SP. That whole aspect has been thrown out the window and it's all about how a man can get off in the shortest amount of time with the lowest amount of cash to offer. Thankfully there are men out there who appreciate SPs and the time together.

I've offered them on two occasions. 1) When I started to be an SP, I was living with roomates and had a really limited windows to offer incall so 15 minutes was better than a 4 hours session 2) When I had two regular that were clock wise, to see me two or three time a week for an in-out BJ during their lunch break. When I was in Ottawa, I used to live really close to gov building office My own personal opinion? I don'T like them. That's when I felt "use" as a whore, prostitute so to say and not as a human being , someone with feelings that may like to also receive a little of attention, be it a caress, kiss, slow lick I don't offer them anymore and will more likely soon remove the 30 minutes appointments.

Thank you all so very much. I have gone through grief counselling it has helped immensely. Your all very right and I to have considered all possibilities of seeing an SP. Guilt, shame, pleasure you know the drill. My hat comes off to all SPs what you ladies do is remarkable. Look what you tried to help me with selflessly. The limits you ladies go to bring joy, excitement, relief and comfort to individuals is at the very forefront of any relationship between all couples. Who knows what the future holds for me, I will satisfy my craving for intimacy, I will one day let my memory of her fade. Move on with my life. Due to your guidance and experience if I decide to see an sp she will look nothing like my wife. Who knows maybe one will find me wouldn't that be a spin! This has been very releaving thank you for allowing me to use this forum as a conduit and for all the advice it has come as a much needed form of letting go. So very sincerely, BF