peacectryguy

First things first before I post this. To Cara, very well said and kudos for being the strong, independent, intelligent woman you are. Now from the other side, here goes. Dear Mr. Harper, My name is Ernie(yes, I am using my real first name here), also known as peacectryguy on several forums that advertise and discuss topics related to escorts in Canada. I am 55 years young, separated and work as a plumber/ heating tech in one of the busiest areas of the country. I pay my taxes and am a contributor to the overall good of the economy and well being of this great nation. I am also what is referred to as a hobbyist. I am a customer/ client of ladies who offer companionship for a fee. These ladies are confident and smart and beautiful and in the real dating world, I would likely never meet or see ladies of this stature as I would probably consider them out of my league and never even approach them. You however, and your cronies, would refer to me as a degenerate pervert or some other derogatory term and an exploiter of women. This is far from the reality of my world. I visit and spend time with lovely ladies ranging in age from early 20's to late 40's.I make every effort to treat the ladies with respect and dignity. These ladies are neither coerced by me or anyone else, nor are they victims of violence or drug abuse. They are just people like all of us. Now for the catch. You have enacted a law that would make me a criminal and deprive me of my ability to work in certain places and limit my abilities to continue to contribute to our nation's well-being. By doing this, you also deprive the ladies that I have grown to know the ability to distinguish the difference between a gentleman such as myself and the very people you say you are protecting them from. They are therefore, put into much graver danger then they were before this came into effect. This also limits the free exchange of information and the means for all of us to stay safe in a world where there will always be a select few who prefer to exploit and harm their fellow man or woman. You would drive the entire industry into the underground darkness to hide it from your puritan view rather than bring it all into the light and see it for what it truly is. By doing this you not only make "criminals out of thousands of honest men" (I quoted that because a minister said that when prohibition was enacted), but you allow the real criminals in all of this to never be exposed, therefore putting many ladies well-being and lives in danger. In conclusion, I just want to say thank you for showing your true colors and letting us all know that you are really not worthy of a seat of power in a democracy. With your power, there is supposed to be an unbiased perspective for the good of all Canadians, not just those you deem worthy. I think I'll copy and paste that and send it to our honorable P.M. What do you all think?

I say let somebody read all the babes and huns and whatever they want in my texts. It means absolutely nothing and never will. Women call me hon all the time in public places. Cashiers, bank tellers, my customers (some old enough to be my grandma and that is really old), ladies I hold the door open for at the post office who I don't know. The list goes on and on. If anyone is worried about their wife or girlfriend seeing it, then just delete it immediately or don't read the silly thing in front of them in the first place. Here's a novel idea, turn your hobby phone right off when you aren't alone and in private. Solves the discretion problem in a heartbeat.

Lmao, I almost fell off the couch when I read that. Seriously, that is just so wrong. I think if I really had to go that bad, I would just leave my donation and a tip, apologize profusely and leave. As for my needs, just a nice body wash and towels is enough. I carry a small, travel size toothbrush and mouthwash and brush and rinse right before, even at a truck stop or whatever. And I am always well groomed and clean before I leave home anyway.

I don't know there MightyPen. I thought the metaphor was pretty much right on. I like it. I wish I had your gift of prose. :icon_cool:

Well, I have been blessed with a very good metabolism and have worked in construction for longer than I care to remember. I get cardio, weight training, squats, the whole nine yards on a daily basis. Honestly, I'm not trying to brag or make this sound arrogant in any way. It just is what it is for me. Unfortunately, this may change slightly in the next few months as I am considering a career change to something less strenuous. The arthritis is starting to kick my behind and the knees are pretty much shot to hell. Then I might have to find creative ways to keep the physique. Although, I doubt my weight will change a whole lot with my metabolism and the fact that I eat very healthy foods, for the most part.

I know that I am just adding to what has already been said about this beautiful woman but I can't help but be amazed and grateful for the time I've been able to spend with this lovely lady. When you look at her pictures, it is easy to feel somewhat intimidated but as soon as you talk to Victoria, you realize that this lady is just a down to earth, wonderful person to be around. When we use phrases like beauty being "skin deep", it does not apply to VJ. She is indeed the personification of beauty inside and out. I love our time together and hope to have many more chances to spend time enjoying the company of this lovely lady. Thank you again, Victoria. Have safe and happy travels and a very Merry Christmas.

My comment about the macho thing was a just a little playful fun. I seriously could care less what anybody thinks of me. I outgrew peer pressure many years ago. And RG, I'm with you on the "total" experience.

This might get me a reprimand from the "macho, he-man club" but I love cuddling and snuggling and lying there in each others arms. :icon_biggrin: I think I like that part just about as much as the other fun stuff.

I'd like to think it's happening but I am just a "guy", lol. Seriously though, I would think it would be more likely with two people that have had multiple encounters, don't you think? Not that it can't happen on a first date, I'm pretty sure it's happened once or twice with me. I just think that chemistry can develop more with repeat visits.

Well, first things first, congrats on the first 24 days, Bianca and best of luck keeping at it. As for me, I smoked when I was young and at 19, I quit. Got the flu for a week, didn't smoke and after that just did it cold turkey. Now, of course, the habit wasn't as bad so I didn't have as hard a time with the withdrawal. So I don't know how much advice I can give but I just think it's mind over matter as much as anything else. On a side note, wow, 36 years since I did that and now just passed 18 since I quit drinking. Dang, I'm getting old.:frown:

Well, earlier today I had a lengthy post all typed up in response to this thread but it seems somewhere in there I had a word on the censor list. Couldn't find it and just gave up. Oh well, the point of it was that this has all been discussed so much, I'm just tired of it. Those of us with somewhat rational minds are all more or less in agreement that things are very unlikely to change a whole lot for those of us who already use our big brains. As for the main topic of this thread, I cannot see any lady giving up her clients under any conditions and I honestly don't see L.E. even trying to get one to.

I don't know if the term "true friendship" can be completely quantified. I mean, I've had friends come and go my entire life and it doesn't seem to matter whether they have been in a personal contact or on-line or whatever. I guess I'm the kind of guy who just can't form that bond that most people consider true. Probably why my marriage failed. I don't open up about my feelings much. I've always been very solitary and will always be that way. As for this site and other forum boards, I think I can honestly say, I've developed a certain friendship aspect and the anonimity means nothing to me along those lines. I've chatted with people on-line for years and have found that we can converse and develop friendships without ever meeting face to face. Some last, some don't so I don't know if one can call that "true". I only know that I find myself closer to being friends with people out here in these forums then anyone in my personal life.

I had to go back and read this whole thread again to see what I missed. It seems the "terms of endearment" are maybe 70% against ( I didn't count, just guessing). Never would have realized that some people are so turned off by that but hey, it's all cool. It's funny when the comments from ladies from Newfoundland and some other places don't even realize they are using those terms. It's just part of their day to day vocabulary. I've been to the southern and mid-west states some and boy, you wanna talk about the "huns" and "darlins" and "sweeties", lol. I think even a few of the guys use the terms there. :smile:. The one thing I would add to my earlier contribution is the "time" factor. It's been mentioned but if I book an hour or 90 minutes or whatever, that is my time and mine alone except for emergencies or obviously some bad behavior on my part (something that would never happen, I assure you). So what if I'm a bit early on the delivery or having a rough day, performance wise. The remainder of the time can be spent in conversation or even just laying there in each others arms gazing into each others eyes. Getting up and grabbing the phone to check messages or worse, texting your friend or sister or whatever is a big no-no. If/when that happens, I get dressed and leave and a repeat visit is not going to happen. I just cut my losses. And to add to that note, to the guys, when you text one of the ladies and she doesn't answer in 5, 10 mins, whatever, don't keep texting and texting. Did you ever consider that she might be in a session with, oh, I don't know, ME? Lol. She will return your message when she is "available". All in all, though, the majority of the ladies in this industry are great and I can't say I've had too many "bad" experiences.

I agree, this and school zone/ playground speeding are my biggest road "pet peeves". I am sick of these people that think their lives are so important, they can't wait 30 seconds or slow down and be aware of children crossing the road or debarking from a bus. Hell, I have a busy schedule in my work but even when the bus has just the yellow light flashing, I stop and wait. I remember one time stopping for a school bus that was just starting to stop and had the yellow lights on. The two cars behind me did the same but behind that some idiot pulled out and barreled past us all doing about 120kph to get by before the sign came out and the bus had the red lights going. I seriously wanted to track the guy down and beat his ass but I was so stunned, I didn't even get the license plate.

Yeah, common sense is anything but common these days, it seems. I wonder if someone should start a course at the local community college to teach it to all the dummies out there. That could be my retirement job. Of course, most of my days would be spent in "facepalm" mode. :icon_wink:

Lots of good advice from all the ladies and I echo a lot of what has been said. BP isn't all bad but like the ladies have pointed out, do a little research. Check pictures using something like Tineye or similar. If the pictures are fake, how can the lady in question be considered totally honest? That's just a starting point though. There are subtle signs that things aren't quite kosher. One thing I have noticed is some of the BP ads where the ladies name seems to change on a weekly basis yet the pictures are the same. Maybe she's just trying to find the right name or maybe she's dodging trouble, I don't know but it's a red flag for me. Another one is the phone numbers. If a different girl shows up on there every few days but the number is the same, my guess is they are being handled by somebody else, agency or worse and that is not a good sign. Lastly, if you see an ad that looks just too good to be true, try looking at the BP ads for another city and see if the same pictures and ad show up. It would be a neat trick for a lady to be in Alberta and Ontario the same night. Lots of reputable ladies post ads on there so it just takes a little patience and smarts to see what's real and what's suspect.

I think texting has become the most intrusive thing in our modern society. People think that they can text and text and text some more. Honestly, sometimes I would just prefer the phone call. If I am busy, I can explain that clearly and just say the I will call them back when I am available. Now, for you ladies, I can't imagine the idiots you have to deal with on a daily basis but I know if I sent a text to a lady and she said, "I'm just sitting down to eat.", I would text one more time to apologize and just get in touch when you are available. Simple courtesy, imo, but I realize that courtesy and manners are getting rare these days, much like common sense.

You tell em you lost count a while back but you could check the database. And then say "Bazinga!" On the serious side though, why the hell does it matter to a guy? I just don't get it. What's worse is these are usually the guys trolling BP and getting crappy service or worse yet, ripped off because they don't have a clue how to do this responsibly and smart.

There, it's all good. Now I have both bookmarked. I only had trouble getting in once before anyway. No biggie. Again, thanks to Mod for all the hard work and the continued help in the process of all this.

I have honestly never asked for or about specifics in my communications even long before this nonsense started so that really doesn't change for me. Now, part of that was because most ads and websites were fairly detailed so there was no need to ask. That is one thing that will change. For me, it isn't that important and as long as our communication has no explicit illegal tone to it, all will be fine. After all, we can "talk" all the livelong day as long as we don't mention money or you know what. Most of this really goes back to proper etiquette and stuff we have discussed before as well.

I agree wholeheartedly, brother RG. It is easy to take for granted what the ladies do but this thing has made them have to really re-think everything and work extra hard to get it "just right" so as not to violate this idiotic new legislation.

One thing to add to my previous statement is that while I understand having to remove certain terms from ads and recos because of this law, I am rather disturbed that many words/ terms have to be removed from our day to day conversations on our forums. It can sometimes take something away from the context. However, the way this law was written can confuse even some brilliant legal minds, let alone a bunch of average "joes" such as myself so we have to adapt and deal with it accordingly. I'm sure the legal council for the owners of the site have scoured every minute detail to protect the site from government and LE so I'll preview, edit or whatever I have to do in an effort to comply. Eventually, this will be just a blip on the radar, I hope.

Lol, I seriously think I would snap if I was in the House for that. One time, I watched about 5 minutes on TV and it took every ounce of will I had not to throw my TV off the balcony. :roll:

It is sad that our government is systematically taking away our freedoms and freedom of speech is the one we are talking about here.I despise this as much as anyone, especially in the week that we honor so many who have sacrificed so much for these freedoms. However, we have to do what we must to "weather the storm" as it were. This is hard for all of us and we will need to keep our wits about us and work together. Being divided amongst ourselves only hurts us. Let's support the site and the mods in their attempt to keep this community alive and safe for us all. What I see in this community is a great many intelligent, thoughtful adults, not a bunch of squabbling teenagers so let's try to remain civil with each other and united even in the face of something designed to tear this all apart. We will prevail in the long run. I truly believe that even though I admit that it won't be easy. I did not join this site for some "penthouse letters" talking about all the positions and details. I joined here because it seemed to rise above that with class and dignity. Maybe I'm talking out of my butt here but I want this place to go on and remain as a beacon of how to engage in this hobby the "right" way.

sorry, I looked and didn't see it in the news section. Guess I didn't look hard enough. Maybe Mod can combine this with that one then.