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I offer what I offer with company I choose to keep, I dont provide a menu and I wont discuss services prior to meeting. Is what I offer YMMV absolutely. I give 110% with anyone I visit with and dont offer anything "extra" to those I may click more with. I offer a complete package and not a well I like you so Ill offer this too type of deal. I am not for everyone and everyone is not for me (just like YMMV) - the same goes with the quality level of service I feel comfortable to provide. No compliment, gift, comment or degree of certain attractiveness would ever make me go out my comfort zone. My thoughts are that if you feel you need to ask for a specific service, I am definitely not the lady for you. We will click because we connect on an intellectual level and our date with blossom from there. We offer what we offer as WE as a person and individual are comfortable to offer it, just cause something may be listed as YMMV what makes you think that the more we like you the more we will give above and beyond what we are comfortable with?

YMMV I believe in most cases if not all cases depends on chemistry and respect for each other. The services I offer are for everyone to enjoy as long as your hygiene is impeccable and you respect my limits. That said if your looking for something special you need to ask before hand. For example if you want a prostrate massage i would tell you how to prepare...you can't go to an appointment expecting some things that you are not prepared for or the lady isn't prepared for.

I'm with Erin and the others on this one. To me YMMV has always meant exactly that. My experience will differ from your's for the simple reason that we are different people. Speaking only for myself I find the premise of the OP a bit off-putting in that I read the post as "what can I do to get you (the lady) to do more?" I guess I have this response because the answer is partly self-evident and the rest should be divined by experience. The OP indicated that he's not new to the craft so I suspect he already knows this and the question is one of those "just curious about" ones that could have been worded differently. But then, I'm old enough to remember that YMMV comes from '70s automotive commercials when they were first touting the better gas mileage of this car over others during the Oil Crisis.

As someone who suffers from PTSD, and did once almost end it all by my own hand...articles like this just break my heart. I know too many soldiers who have taken their own lives over the last decade, no soldier should ever have to suffer alone. http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/12/10/18-u-s-military-veterans-commit-suicide-every-day/

I'm an MA but I don't like where this thread is headed in regards to publicly asking SP's if they would do "extra" because you're either special, a repeat client or give gifts and cash donations to try to persuade. This is a sense of entitlement if you ask me. This is YMMV and kept private between the provider and client. I have stopped seeing clients that have thought like this due to the discomfort.

Honestly, if I was a teller at your bank and u took the time to think of a gift I would like I would be most appreciative. If I was your real estate agent, I would appreciate it. If I was your child's teacher I would appreciate it. I would never expect it but I would never not appreciate it! An apple, a note, flowers or something special u know I would like. It's the thought that counts. And if u can't afford it a massage :) LMAO

This is really sad. It seems to me that this also has to do with the way out society undermines traumatic events in people's lives and stigmatizes and neglects mental illness which results in people going untreated etc. additionally, as a culture, if we had the tools to support people going through things like this (I.e if we were taught in school what signs to look for and ways we can help instead of do more damage) then a lot less people would take their lives. My thoughts go out to the families and friends who have to live with the guilt and horror of losing someone to suicide. And also to the people who took their lives that were in so much pain that they made the choice to take their lives in order to rest in peace. Xoxo

I'm with you Roamingguy. And when I read posts like the one previous to yours, it makes me feel for the ladies and the contempt that sometimes is directed at them.

the post nomination was a mis-click on my part!! not to be misunderstood. :b I love bringing gift for whomever i visit, actually more often than not i asked ahead of time if i could bring anything :) easy way to break the ice!

I hold a special place in my heart for the soldiers. Being from Windsor originally, Fort Wayne is right across the water in the States. Alot of the men coming home from Iraq would get dropped off at Fort Wayne, and the go their respective hometown from there. I was a dancer at the time, an I met tons of soldiers from all over the U.S., some having returned to North America as little as 2 hours ago. They were from places as far as Texas and california, and probably would never get the opportunity to see Canada again, so they came to meet us naked Canadian girls and drink our beer lol. Anyways, they were so appreciative to be home and be with us ladies, and after the sacrifice they made, plus how sweet they were, it was always such a pleasure too entertain them, and so flattering that the first thing they did was come see us lol. I will always remember one in particular though. It was the summertime, a very hot night. He came into my club, I was onstage. He was in uniform, and something about him caught my eye. It was like the song magic man by heart " I never seen eyes so blue......"He watched me so intently, not with a look of lust, but sense of intrigue and bit of confusion,like I was something different or strange to him.I've never gotten that look before or since, and didn't know what to think of it at the time. After my show, I went over to talk to him. He was from Alabama, and i LOVED his drawl, so different from the Michigan accent i was so accustomed to.We sat at table in the corner, and he bought me drink. I looked into his eyes and this man was haunted, it was like i was there but i wasn't.........he spoke to me intently and with conviction but he was almost vacant...... He had just returned from his 2nd tour in Iraq. His wife had left him, she couldn't take him being gone and worrying if he was killed or not, and when he went the second time, she couldnt take it. He had no one waiting for him at home, so he decided he was going to stay in Canada for a bit. He would come see me almost every night, and we would hang out after words, go to a club or out for dinner or whatever. One night, we were at the hotel, and there were fireworks on the river. We were in the room, and they started going off. He ran and practically dove under the counter in the bathroom. He was holding his ears and he turned all red and was breathing heavy. The fireworks had clearly triggered a panic attack.I climbed under that sink and sat with my arms around him rocking him and humming until it was ok for him again. He was very reserved before, we only talked about me. He just broke down and told me everything, the stories from Iraq that night, stories of things he did i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy to have to commit, and the guilt he felt about those things.......his conscience was heavy and he was a tortured. We were together everyday that summer, it was strange, we weren't lovers but we weren't friends either, it was like......... i dunno it sounds weird but he needed someone to care for him and i was supposed to do it......it was just a strange unique and intense human connection.......... He gave me his dog tag and he left. My life went on. A little less than a year later he called me out of the blue. He was going over again, for his third tour. he wanted to see me before he left. I met him when he was getting off the bridge, and we had the best night........he wrote me while he was there and his letters just stopped coming. A few months later, one of his friends wrote me and told me he was on a routine mission to a village and someone blew up their truck, him along with 2 other were killed and three other wounded. He told me he had talked about me often, and i found out while he was back in the states he had a major drug problem and that's why i didn't hear from him for 7 months. The friend had found an envelope addressed to me so that's why he wrote, and he included his phone number to call and encouraged me to do so, but i never did. I had a great respect for that man, and I'll always always remember him........... If he had had the support he needed when he want back to u.S. maybe he'd still be alive today.......................

Actually I no longer consider it to be a misfortune. The whole thing has made me a much stronger person and a much more caring and approachable officer. It also has helped me notice the signs of stress in soldiers quicker, so I can get them help right away and they won't have to go through what I did.

I would like to give a hug to katherine in particular,I have made a few mistakes since joining cerb and without knowing me ,she reached out as a friend would for that I will always be grateful to her and her graciousness,and hugs to the other cerb members who also have been ever so kind,they know who they are.

How can you say it's a private matter if you keep posting about it publically?

It may happen (and I emphasize may) sometimes with some SP's/MA's, but for him to categorically post as if all MPA take gifts and then laugh behind the clients back, uncalled for. Just posted, IMHO to make out the ladies as money grabbers, and the clients who gift give as losers. He should look to the top of the CERB page next time, you know, the part which says if you do not have anything nice to say...Please don't say anything at all I stand by my original post, and fully understand why he got the negative rep points he did RG

I believe SP's are entitled to cancellation fees. In principle, I agree with everything that has been said so far. I will however share a recent experience where I believe I was treated unfairly. An SP, who I had spent a generous amount of time and money with, had agreed on a pre-paid arrangement. Half way through this arrangement, I had booked a 2hr appt., 2 days in adavnce. The morning of the appt. (4hrs before we were suppose to meet), I received a pm indicating a change of service from her. Though I respect her right to do so, it was unexpected. As a result, I cancelled my appt. for that day to reconsider our long term arrangement. Because she had my $, she withheld the full 2hrs. booked. Understand, I had no intention of cancelling when I woke up that morning. I cancelled because of the pm relating to change of service. The SP did not consult me in what was considered fair, she simply impose her fee on me, taking no responsibility for the situation or it's effect. I have since received the balance of my $, and consider the matter closed. It should be noted, the SP had no cancellation policy on her website, nor was one discussed relating to the prepaid arrangement. In my wildest dreams, things were going so well when we started this, I never thought one would be necessary. But because she had my $, I felt I was taken advantage of. Lesson learned Truth be told, had I felt I had been treated fairly, I would have released her from the balance of the financial obligation. I considered her a friend, still do. Clearly, every situation is different. Fairness is what is agreed upon by two...not what is imposed by one.

Well they can still laugh and call me a loser behind my back (said sarcastically, I don't for one second believe ladies laugh behind our backs), I'm going to keep tipping/gifting. And it's what happens face to face, privately in an encounter is what I tip/gift give for. And frankly, I think your full of it. An SP/MA appreciates being treated like a lady by a gentleman, it makes what is her livelihood, an enjoyable and respectful time. Why would she laugh at someone showing her respect The gift, a little token of appreciation. The tip, well it helps the lady pay the bills, put food on the table, offset expenses, or just buy something she wants I think you just wanted to put a rationalization (an unwanted rationalization) out here probably to justify that (I assume), you don't tip/gift give Do you really think your negative comments necessary? RG

Sounds like both sides of the story are out. A once "life happens" cancellation is one thing, but serial cancellations, not cool, not cool at all...shows at bare minimum a disrespect for the lady's time, she could be seeing a paying client instead of waiting around for someone who doesn't show up If you want to be treated with respect, you have to treat others with respect too RG

I would like a pole for christmas....jussstttt saying lol

I don't have any gag reflex:D that count right?

I give really great fellatio.....:tongue:

Nice thread because it reminded me of my original reasons for doing this. Speaking only for myself, this hobby has probably allowed my relationship to survive as long as it has. I didn't want to die a bitter old man who only wished he had experienced the variety and excitement of the worldly world. I have built some very fond memories and have met some wonderful folks along the way. Part of the joy in this hobby are new discoveries, the thrill of the hunt and anticipation of meeting. The upside is that when I get old and frail and start to relive my experiences out loud, my SO will just think of my ramblings as that of demented old coot. But behind my drooling, lop-sided grin, only I will know the truth! Who knows, I may just meet some of you guys in "the home".:icon_lol:

thanks cat. this post has lifted my spirits a little more. the site has grown so large that I really can't do it on my own and I have been pushing myself this last year to a breaking point. people are constantly complaining and everyone seams to feel they need to tell me how to do things. most people do not consider that they are just one person demanding my time with frivolous complaints, whining and my favorite... redundant bitching (when they just repeat themselves over and over than get pissed off when I tell them where to go or remove them) with the site growing so large we have 10 times more spammers (you rarely see these as I remove them before you ever see them... only a few get by recentlybecause some exploit exists that has not been patched yet that allows the spammers to circumvent the moderation queue) .. I would estimate 300+ spam posts are removed each month. title infractions.... we don't want the site to lookk like cl with all the crazy post titles trying to out do the next one and gain the most attention... so i have very specific rules to stop this and i use to take the time to pm each person and tell them what they did wrong... i found that even when i took the time people would ignore the pm and continue to break the rules so now i just delete the post and give them a infraction with a link to the rules.. I get people every day wasting my time asking me to elaborate on what they did wrong... did they read the link with the rules??? NO... They are just wasting my time. about 300 posts a month break this rule and more than 1/2 of them break the rule over and over again. This is disrespectful and these people do not deserve to use the site so I just keep deleting the ad posts and eventually just remove them. if they are literate enough to post an ad they can dam well read the rules or they are not welcome here. when I suspend someone (especially a SP or a male member with 50+ posts) i get people PM me (who only hear one side of the story) demanding I let them back or telling me I was wrong or calling me a dictator. These people run to the other sites and tell everyone how horrible I am (and really that did not bother me in the past but now its getting a little annoying).. FINALLY... we have those idiots who post shit like "I am affraid to post on cerb because I will get in trouble" or "I know the rule is... hopefully the mod does not remove me" or the really big idiots who want to fight with me on the site and don't think I have the balls to kick them off!! Yes, it wears on me!! Yes, I am done with it and yes I would not wish this job on anyone. Cat probably meant to post this in the PRIVATE area away from public view but we can let everyone know. I am done and I am working on a way to keep the site moving forward. We are looking for a way to have the community help moderate the site (Myself, the SP's who have SP ONLY access and the ELITE members have a private discussion thread where we are trying to come up with a solution that will keep the site moving forward and keep the integrity of the site alive. I have confidence in our members (Most of them) and I think a few should be removed who are trouble makers but I will leave that up to the people who will take my place as the decision makers. This is not open for public debate but if you are an elite member or a SP ONLY member you are welcome to comment in the private area and have your say. We would love to hear any idea's. If you are not able to see that area please DO NOT pm me. My PM is very busy and full with all this. I am willing to help the transition go forward smoothly (I am not walking away tomorrow or anything) I will continue forward and make sure the site is in good hands before I move on. I will probably always be part of the site in some sort of way (System admin, Server Admin, Software upgrades, etc... after all I am a computer guy and not a politian).