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Wow, talk about the word spreading like wild fire. I know this your Halifax party and I have no hand in organizing it or having anything really to say about it, except that this needs to be addressed sooner than later. I have already have a few ladies who have pm'd me concerned about some of the guys who are under the impression that a social means they can expect things like "lap dances" and the girls performing in other ways, etc. You need to be very clear that at least as far as the Ottawa socials were concerned, it was just that "a social" - a place to meet and greet without any hanky panky, groping or inappropriate gestures or language being toelrated. So for those of you who think your $20 is the key to the Champagne room, you might want to rethink your expectations. Private parties where ladies offer services is another type of party format that is generally not organized at a public location. I will look to the organizers Penelope and Taloon to back me on this point, that this is a public social where folks are expected to behave accordingly? Carry on...

I wouldn't want any gentleman to feel that he's not allowed to ask questions about what the lady offers and what her restrictions are. If you've checked out her website--where such things are frequently described--and still have questions, by all means, ask for the information. I can't imagine why any of us would consider polite inquiries to be a waste of time. Compatibility makes for a good rendez-vous, after all! Time-wasters are not trying to determine whether the lady is right for them. Most are more turned on by the fantasies they have while making contact than by actually meeting us. Their inquiries are not so much about trying to figure out whether we're compatible as they are about material for their own, private, solo pleasure, for free. Some of the time-wasting things I've experienced from men I've not met have included: Peppering me with long lists of questions about minutiae. I once had someone send me a list of 75 questions to which he wanted me to respond on a sliding scale of 1-5, from "absolutely not" to "our meeting would be a failure if we don't." This wasn't a BDSM scene negotiation: the questions were about "vanilla" activities. Demanding information about what went on in my recent meetings with other clients. Expecting me to provide a list of clothing and lingerie options from which he would decide what I would wear and, if I didn't have something that he thought he would like, also expecting me to go shopping to acquire whatever he thought would be suitable. At my own expense, of course. Sending highly explicit pornographic scene descriptions to which I was expected to respond, giving exact details about how closely my responses to the activities would or would not match those of the woman in the scene. Asking for advice about problems they're having at home or at work. Pointed questions about my sexual fantasies. Trying to turn phone conversations into phone sex, which is not something I offer. Describing encounters they claim to have had with other companions in the city, whom they name, and expecting me to offer opinions about those ladies and their alleged actions. Repeatedly making appointments a week or two in advance and then cancelling the morning of, or one or two hours before, the meeting. (I know that unexpected things happen to everyone. But if short-notice cancellations happen twice in a row, I may not agree to meet with a prospective client a third time without a non-refundable payment in advance.) The most common time-wasters, though, are the fellows who want to exchange e-mail daily or even several times a day about unimportant things like the weather, what kind of music I listen to, what I'm reading, what I cooked for dinner last night, and so on. These men tend to sulk or chide if their expectations aren't met to their satisfaction. I'm quite happy to exchange e-mail, sometimes two or three times a week, before meeting, particularly if the man is from out of town, but my notes will be fairly brief, warm, cheerful and rarely include much info about my personal, private life. I've received many other, similar time-wasting requests. I'm sure that most of the companions on this board could easily come up with quick lists, too. I'm happy to answer serious questions. I know how important it can be to find someone who provides experiences that he hasn't been able to have at home or elsewhere. If the man seems to be nervous or anxious, I usually suggest we have a strictly social meeting, first, like lunch in a restaurant. My social rates are lower than my private rates and I'm happy to get to know someone while relaxing over a meal without the expectation that we'll have private intimacy afterward. These social meetings aren't a waste of time, at all. I enjoy them!

Cheap motels are just that, Cheap and will drive clients away avoid the Ottawa Inn on Montreal Rd or Value Inn on Ogilvy Belair Motel on Robertson, Richmond Plazza on Richmond road or worst of them all the flea bag motel attached to the Canada Cabaret, Sadde International Inn, LOL Listen to Peachy's advice, Use hotwire or priceline or even expedia. I've had a huge suite with 2 bathrooms 2 bedrooms kitchen dinning room, huge living room and balcony at Albert at bay for 70 bucks a night, and even some great rooms at the Westin ( although not escort friendly from an access point) for a as low as 120 A cheap room will end up costing you more in the long run if clients choose not to visit you based on the location.

Need? No. Want? That's another matter entirely :) Less and less. Sometimes this is a good thing; sometimes it isn't. It's good to know what our politicians are up to, but I suspect that's not what you're thinking of... Intrigue? No, probably not. Titillate and arouse? Yes, but that's not what you asked. I'm not sure whether you actually *wanted* everyone to chip in with their advice, but since everyone else has, I will too: don't (unless you really want to). It really doesn't sound like you *want* to post pictures of yourself displaying more flesh; it sounds like you're just utterly pissed off with constant requests for them. Obviously I'm not and never have been a SP, but I get the feeling that this is just the sort of douchebaggery that goes with the territory, and you can't do much about it. There's only one person whose opinions matter on what pics you post, and that's you. Put up as many or as few as you like, showing as much or as little skin as you wish. As for the age of the pic... who cares if it was taken two years ago? Provided you still look more-or-less the same so that you can't be accused of bait-and-switch, I don't see that it matters in the slightest. I'd imagine that what really matters here is what you're comfortable with, and how you want to market yourself. Finally: don't believe for a moment that you can ever satisfy the constant lust for more. You post topless, we'll want naked. You give us a pic of your ass, we'll want to see your pussy (CERB doesn't allow it? Email it to me, then!). You post pics baring all, we'll ask for vids. Don't go down that road. Do what *you* want, and let everyone else go... well, just ignore them, okay? :)

I am going to throw out some considerations that might be food for thought. These thoughts are based on concerns for discretion, safety, attendance and in hopes that this will be an amazing event that will lead to future ones to follow. There is no way that any specific date once selected is going to work for everyone as schedules are sometimes fixed in stone and cannot be arranged around. However, the further in the future that a date is selected, perhaps the more leeway people will have in being able to clear their schedule in order to attend, so I am going to suggest something even as late as mid-September. I DO know that a number of Ottawa members have previously expressed interest in attending a Maritime social and a later date might help some of them as well in their planning. Having attended two socials in Ottawa within the last year and since I believe in the motto of "Don't fix it if it ain't broken," then I would like to share some of their ways of doing things in hopes that we can learn from their experience. I believe that I am correct that some of their initial forays into socials did not go well because guidelines for behaviour, dress, discretion were not in place. With the socials that I attended there were a number of ground rules in place and people were asked to adhere to them. For the most part people do so, and the events were great fun and successful. The time for the event in Ottawa was from 6:30 until whenever it was over. People did arrive at 6:30, and by 8:30 the majority of attendees were there. In both cases people tended to be out and on their way by midnight when it really did seem to clear out. I know with certainty that many men had prearranged dates with women who were attending, so that was another reason that many left well before the wee hours of the morning. Any door prizes that were donated were distributed by a draw that took place at 10 o'clock. The event was publicized to the bar as a singles/dating group with BREC as the name of the group (CERB spelled backwards). As people entered they simply asked to be directed to the BREC social. There was a definite pre-arrangement made with members so that it was known well in advance who would be attending. A table at the door was manned by the organizers to meet people as they arrived and to ensure that only those who were supposed to be there came in. Depending on the location, discretion need be emphasized. If washrooms are not inside our private area then people will be in and out of the room for that reason. Smokers will be in and out of the room in order to address that, and generally people were asked to keep their Cerb personas to the Cerb room. It was suggested that dress be business casual. Dress for ladies was asked to be toned down somewhat so as not to draw unnecessary attention to the gathering. It was made clear to the ladies that this was to be a non-solicitation event. Now we all know why Cerb exists, however the intent was to have this to truly be a social, a meet and greet, and for the ladies to use it as that while at the same time giving them an opportunity to make future contacts. Name tags were given out at one of the socials that just had the first name of the attendee. Cerb names were disclosed in personal conversation. Ladies were not charged to attend. If the suggested cost of $20 does not cover it, then $30 would not be unreasonable for the men. The cover paid included appetizers that were brought in throughout the evening and each lady attending also received a small gift bag. In conclusion, I would make one final suggestion and that being that an alternate location be determined and booked that is not ever to be published in this thread. The date can be made public if the location remains confidential to those who will attend, and they need not know that even until the last few days, other than a general area. Thanks to those who are spearheading this event and I hope that it comes off and that I shall be able to attend. MN2

I had to respond as the whole picture thing was a big worry to me ,when I started I was worried about being found out so I used pics that I thought resembled me,but were not me,very bad idea,then I posted a few pics that I took myself,I was then asked countless times to provide more,I gave in to pressure,then I began to get asked how come I don't get professional photos,if you look at my profile I have many pics,some fairly explicit,I have to say I regret doing them,I wish I had left more to the imagination,but still get requests for face pics,since I don't show it,all in all you will never satisfy everyone,nor should you try,only do what will make you happy in the end.No one should have to display all of themselves to gain business, if a man isn't intrigued by what you are providing,then he is not for you.I sometimes wonder if their are alot of voyeurs out there that are just wanting to view naked women and not make dates.

Absolutely, It's incredibly hypocritical to say I can be a hobbyist, and enjoy the company of ladies who I respect, etc., etc., and then turn around and be critical or upset about a friend or relative being a provider. I often think it's very sad when ladies have to hide what they do from their friends and families. I sincerely wish we lived in a more open-minded and welcoming society. Having been in this hobby for quite a while I often have wondered what I would do if my daughter became an escort. I think everyone has to make their own choices, and I would support her. I would probably want to talk to her about how she was organizing her business (client screening for example) to ensure her safety. In answer to the OP's question, if I recognized someone on here from our other civilian world, I would treat it the same way I would a chance encounter on the street with a SP I see. Say nothing, and go about your business. It would also probably best not to book her. Porthos

Begin legit is the proper way of doing things. It is very easy. Just the same as any self employed person. Claim your money as an entertainer. It is best to do it the proper way. In the future if you want to get a house, a new vehicle or open a business, then you can. As you can show where your money came from. There is nothing illegal about companionship.

I received ANOTHER PM from a member who was concerned because GOOGLE indexes cerb.ca. He says that his significant other has ways to "find" his ALIAS on cerb and thinks we should block the search engines from indexing cerb. Well... if your S/O can figure out your alias on cerb you allowed this to happen - it has NOTHING to do with google or cerb! Basically if this happens you were sloppy! He was obviously doing something he should not have been doing and got caught (Probably a tech savvy S/O) ... and now looking to put the blame on someone or something instead of himself. This happens with the LADIES just as much as the guys. The ladies do something foolish and allow people in their personal life to EASILY find them online working as an escort (and that causes PANIC for many and a headache for me as they want me to delete all traces of them on cerb) - after the fact this is pointless!! Everything that should be indexed by google (and other search engines) is. We block access to the PRIVATE sections (SP ONLY, COUNCIL, ETC...) and we hide your IP address's and Emails on your profiles. The PUBLIC part of the site is indexed and cerb runs a very good SEO system that ensures everything is available and indexed on google and other search engines. Why? This brings us traffic, allows new members to find cerb, allows the ladies to find us and it is a very important part of the site. It also pays the bills! This site is FREE for you all to use but nothing in this world is FREE. Your posts are indexed with the search engines and are considered "Content" and this content on google and other search engines creates links to cerb.ca. In turn our sponsors (All the advertisers here and escorts-canada and other sites we own get traffic from cerb and traffic is money). This is a business after all and it may be a free site for you all to use but the reason this site exists is to generate traffic and feed traffic to the people who pay for this site (The people who make this site free for everyone who uses it). These days if your sites are not listed on google... your nobody and nobody will find you! As of today we have 91700 listings on google alone! This brings THOUSANDS of people to cerb every day! Thousands of people who would not have found cerb without these listings. We can not hide things from google to keep them from your significant others. If you are sneaking around doing something you should not then your on your own to protect yourself. What can you do to keep your identity and actives private? 1) I would suggest you use a username that no one could associate with you. 2) Erase your cookies. history and temporary internet files everytime you are done using the internet 3) Check your computer for stuff like keystroke loggers (as it's common for SO's to use these things if they suspect you of doing things you should not). They act as trojans and quietly sit in the background and log every button you push on your keyboard.... any tech savvy 12 year old kid knows how to do this and you can now buy USB thumb drives that make it possible for ANYONE to do this with very little knowledge of how a computer works. 4) Don't post anything too personal. Ladies this goes for you as well. If you use your PERSONAL cell phone for business it will be INDEXED On google and your friends can GOOGLE your cell number and find your ads. Don't be foolish, invest in a WORK PHONE and keep your private life private! 5) If your name is "Richard Henry John" and you choose a alias here like "R.H.J" or "DickH" or "Rich john" your asking to be identified. This is just silly to do and you would be surprised how many people do this. **** The reason we use Alias's is so that your posts and activities on these sites are anonymous. We hide your IP and Email from public (Keeping your id private). Q: Is cerb really FREE? A: No, Nothing is Free. Q: How can you run CERB for free? A: This site is a BUSINESS and is here to make money. It costs TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars to run this site each year. Someone has to pay for that! You don't pay for using cerb and the handful of banner advertisers help but don't cover the cost of the servers per year let alone my salary! It appears free to you but your posts are content and your visits are traffic. Content = Search engine listings Search engine listings = Traffic Traffic = Money! This site is FREE to use for all of you and in return you are giving us your time, contributions and traffic. Someone has to pay the bills and in this "virtual" world website traffic is what pays the bills. Hard to imagine but that is how it works. The more traffic cerb.ca gets the more traffic it's sponsors receive (Advertisers on the site). This is how we pay for the site. If we made the site inaccessible from google and other search engines we would have no traffic, We would have no content, We would have no members, We would have nothing of value and we would have no computers and bandwidth to run the site. Bottom line we would have no business. I don't work for free (Shocking isn't it) I am PAID to run this website. I have other duties that involved things other then this website but at least 1/2 of my salary is to maintain cerb. The servers that run cerb, the bandwidth, the custom programming, license fee's, the chat room, etc... all cost money (You would be SHOCKED to know those costs!). My point here is that for every 10 visitors we get from google at least 1 of them end up visiting escorts-canada.com (The website that pays the bills for cerb) It's all about the math. Search engine math? Basically 5000 visitors per day is worth 100 grand a year. If you were to PURCHASE traffic from other sites (and that is not easy as a lot of sites DO NOT allow "Adult" related sites to buy advertising) it would cost a MINIMUM of .06 cents per visitor. (5000 X $.06) X 365 days a year = $109'500.00 We send a few thousand visitors to EC per day from cerb so our budget is no where near 100 grand but one day it may be!! So keep posting and spreading the word. Out budget here is based on this. (Traffic sent to EC X RATE .03) X 365 days a year = $BUDGET Notice the RATE is .03 and not .06 - If it was .06 it would be simply smarter to just purchase the traffic. If you can build your own traffic that cost 1/2 of what it would cost you to purchase the same traffic... it's a SMART business decision! (And is why cerb exists today).

I know this has been covered, but I'll inject my two cents anyway. I know the SP to whom you refer. I would be very, very surprised if she were to write anything about a gathering like this. In my mind she epitomizes discretion.

My first reaction would be to say keep your mouth shut and keep that information to yourself and just continue on as normal. Do you really want them knowing you're a hobbyiest or SP yourself? Is it a conversation you really want to have? I'd say if you do approach them, depending on how well you know them and what your relationship is, it could make if very uncomfortable for them. What a person doesn't know, can't hurt them. Just my two cents.

Sounds good... So, if by chance you did decide to come, is there a possibility you might consider offering appointments during your stay as well?

That would be great, Angela! Thanks for the offer, and please feel free to share any tips/pointers you may have. As an aside, any chance of you attending? I've always wanted to meet you, but thus far haven't had the pleasure...

I am all for an event such as this, but with a few concerns. Door prizes that are offered by any of us should be drawn at a certain time absolutely, that way everyone involved is there. The idea of lap dances/striptease being offered by any lady at this event? To me, that would just lower the standard of the event from a social gathering/meet and greet to a simple 'college style keg party' type of event. Ladies that might not offer those services could be offended and the guys would then be placing all of their attention on one or two ladies that might actually do this. It's a social gathering, not a strip club. Signing a 'non-disclosure agreement at the door, hmm, I think this one is pushing the boundaries of the 'privacy act'. I see three potential problems with this one: 1) everyone entering would have to sign and show ID in order to have any such document be worth anything, 2) every time someone went in or out of the room, they would have to reveal who they were to whomever is at the door, 3) should the barstaff change over duties (as most rotate door staff), we would have to go through a 'screening' process to get back in, therefore revealing identities once again. Any smokers at this event, or if the washrooms are located outside of the room, would be subject to just that. Most of the social events that I have been to like this, have been held in something such as a large hotel suite or small banquet room. This way, you have someone at the door, you give your cerb handle upon entry, and you don't have to leave the room to use washroom facilities. Based on the price of a suite, bar supplies (or event management cost), snacks, staffing if necessary, door prizes offered by the ladies etc, divided by the number if gentlemen attending, there is your cost to attend. I for one, along with Katherine, are more than open to offering services for a draw, but I certainly would never consider offering them right there. I would be more than happy to scout some of the upscale hotels and talk to an event manager or two, to quote an event such as this. Much easier than a bar system, and a lot more private and secure. It can be quoted as a 'family gathering' (which I have used before) for any indiscretions to be eliminated. Any ladies willing to participate as a group on this, I would be more than happy to be a part of it. No prying eyes this way Just my two cents

Don't now about any of this Lee but I'd like to play with you!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Yeah you know I am a bad girl :icon_wink:

One quick additional thought, all ladies, be they SP or MA are someone's mother, daughter, sister, niece, aunt, cousin etc. Just something to keep in mind RG

I know this is not anything new but violence against sex workers does not get the same treatment or coverage as it would if the person or persons involved were not sex workers. On the front page of Thursday's edition of the CH was a story about the "dramatic" rescue of a deer that someone was keeping as a pet which apparently is against the law. Who knew? http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1202232.html Meanwhile buried on page 9 is this story http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1202211.html Here is a story about a man who is being charged for the second time in six months with the kidnapping,sexual assault and torture of a sex worker he is also the main suspect in the disappearance of a third sex worker who has not been seen or heard from for over two months. So a story about a pet deer gets front page coverage while a story about a serial kidnapper/rapist/and probable murderer gets a page 9 rating. I can't help but wonder if these three women were 'respected citizens" would this still be a page 9 story?

I don't think they should rely on screening only as well. Screening and testing ideally would be the best. I had to give blood to a family member because I was the only one wiling to do it and I had the same bood type. The people belonging to this rare blood type can donnate to all type of blood, but can only receive from the same type. There is only a small pourcentage of people belonging to this type in the world. The biggest population of blood type O negative is found in places like Spain, Iceland, Australia and some reservation across Canada/America, but it's still not much. That's why this blood type is very well in demand. When I knew I had to do it, I went to the clinic by myself and had a blood test. The same day I had the confirmation that everything was fine, I went back to the hospital. If I would not have been fine or if I would have refused, I assume they could have pick someone else in the family or in the community. They still asked me a couple questions, but I didn't have problems with it so far. I signed a paper and it was done. It was a question of life or death. I am very grateful that everything went well after. Other than that, I think most people with O negative blood type should be welcomed to donate their blood to the Red Cross since it's still very much in demand.

Never, EVER, give in to any type of pressure. Be who you are cause you are amazing and no photos could ever capture your true nature. You have created an amazing example of branding and unless you want to switch things up cause you feel the need, you don't have to bow to the pressure. Those who find fault are not those you wish to spend time with!

My new dog Charlie...he's so cute-He's a Pomapoo...:icon_biggrin:

I had just this very discussion via pm with a SP yesterday and both of us agreed that its a sexy way of showing complete acceptance. It's a bond thing, which I think is why SPs only do it after a few repeat visits and not for everyone. When it happened to this super hot sp on our first visit, it took on a totally different dimension: cum- hungry harlot, which is super dirty and sexy. Like every sexual thing, it may not appeal to everyone but swallowing sure is in the top 5 for most men I know. Posted from my iPhone

That probably means she's left. They seem to be quite good about getting people's pics off their pages when they go (and getting them up when they arrive, for that matter).

There is this method of killing bed bugs. http://www.sternenvironmental.com/cryonite/index.php Not sure who in Ottawa is doing this particular form of treatment Would prefer that to DDT