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I'm only going to add a short two cents to this thread, I'm not taking part in the poll because I think its encouraging another statistic of "oh look, x amount of girls are offerring x service" and "only x are offering this" so the lower amount of girls who arent offering x service should catch up to those that are. potatoe, potatah-toe....lets live and let live. if you want a specific service, ask for it like a gentleman, if the lady doesnt offer it (and if thats a real deal breaker for you...tisk) then dont see her but getting us all to make a new statistic based on a poll about what the new Cerb.ca supposed "norm" is? Depending on the outcome, its not helping anyone (psst!..mainly us!) and...well....bah I'm not even gonna finish that cuz i think you know where I'm going with this....

Meg, I love to linger in the afterglow, chat and smooch while softly running my fingertips over all the ladies curves. It's a beautiful moment if the connection between the SP and client is right.

... and the moral of the story is, whatever way you get em, a blowjob is a great thing. amen.

Gonorrhea is the second most-commonly diagnosed STI in North America. It has been treated with antibiotics, but has been growing resistant for 70 years. In the 1940s, sulfa drugs stopped being effective. In the 1970s, so did penicillins; tetracyclines lost effectiveness in the 1980s. In 2007, fluroquinolone drugs also stopped working. In August, the US Center for Disease Control announced that oral cephalosporins were no longer recommended for treating gonorrhea. The CDC issued new treatment guidelines for gonorrhea recommending a multiple antibiotic regime. In January, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that the one remaining drug that had been effective, Cefixime, was not effective in a number of cases identified in Toronto. An additional article in the same issue of the JAMA noted that there are no other treatment options available. Gonorrhea can live happily in a human throat, undetected. Anyone who has gonorrhea is at increased risk of infection if they come in contact with HIV/AIDS.

Sorry, but I'm never pushy, and I always think with my head on my shoulders at all times with a lady, and always act like a complete gentleman. Please don't lump me in with "we as men can be pushy" Thanks.

Well I take pity on my fellow CERB-ites and only post this on one of the three threads. This argument is getting tiresome, and not just this particular time. It seems we keep going down the same path, having the same arguments over and over again. I just spent about 2 minutes with this wonderful feature we have on this site called "search" (something that some of you should seriously try using some time) and here are just four threads of many on the topic. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71451&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34872&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20951&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16380&highlight=transmission This time though we have three active threads with the same people posting on all three of them, and rarely providing any new information and insight that is not already on this board. First someone hijacked a thread on BBFS to rant about the perils of BBBJ. Then an SP put up a poll with a set of questions that although well-meaning just made things more complicated. Believe it or not folks there is a science to writing polls to gather data properly. Then a hobbiest in attempt to clarify things posted an SP only poll with the same sort of problematic questions. The we have people cross-posting links irrelevant to the discussion on multiple threads. A serious breach of netiquette on any board. What angers me the most is that these arguments are not being made in the interest of health and safety, they are being made because some people feel they have an economic interest at stake. Case in point, an SP on here last night posting about how she felt that to keep her financial well being she had to offer BBBJ. The word being thrown around is coercion, which is pretty strong. It generally implies some sort of duress being applied. I don't think that a hobbiest choosing to see an SP who does BBBJ instead of CBJ is really duress. Particularly since the anecdotal evidence on these threads is that for the vast majority of the hobbiests it has no bearing. I am not going searching for facts, and transmission rates as someone on here has suggested. There is no need. A lot of what we do in this hobby has risks. Condoms are not 100% effective. I am not going to cite the failure rate here and have people shoot at my statistics, look it up. The point is that they break, slip off, and do not prevent all diseases, particularly herpes, warts and even HPV. (and I could add non-STI infections as well) And if you are going to look it up then Wikipedia and Ask.com may be a good place to start, but do us all a favour and try and find some primary sources. Dig deeper, and look at several sources, because there are a lot of different facts and statistics out there depending on who is presenting them. A lot of people on the internet have their own agenda. (surprise surprise) The fact of the matter is that this hobby is full of risks, and not just from STI's. The only safe way to avoid these risks is not to have sex or contact with another human at all. I don't think many of us would want to do that. How a person handles these risks, mitigates them, protects themselves and their partners is what is important. Is there a risk with BBBJ, yes there is. But there is also a demand for it, and not just from the hobbiests. I know many SP's who really don't like sucking on a latex condom. That is their choice. They know the risks. Is BBBJ the only risky thing we do in this hobby? Not by a long shot. My final word is this. Wanting to have a BBBJ or a CBJ is a personal choice. Wanting to provide either is also a personal choice. If you choose not to provide that service then live with your decision. If someone else makes a different choice it is none of your business. You can say it is coercion, but I would also say that trying to use peer-pressure on a board like this to try and convince your competition to do something different is also coercion. To the mod(s) as I have shown here we have debated this thread ad nauseum over the years, and nothing really new has been added to the mix. We now have 3 similar threads. Can we at least merge them, if you are not going to lock them?

Why is it that when I go to the grocery store with only a few small things on my list, I always leave with $300 worth of groceries?

>Why is it that none of the major holidays are celebrated with naked lasciviousness rather than chocolate confections? Yes we need a bacchanalian festival. Why is it that people who care enough about their health to drink water in a water bottle, care so little about the health of the environment to leave the plastic bottle behind in the park.

In my experience Claire Heavens works really well as a Viagra substitute. :) No need of anything like that when you're around her.....

As Duke says it..., To start just look.., are they posting their adds in the Massage only Section or in the Full Service Provider/ escort section... Also very important..., if you find yourself interested in a lady, read her profile, if the lady has her own website, read thatbone too...., inform yourself..., If after reading you still have any doubts as to what services she offers..., contact her directly, and ask pertinent questions... As whiteman said COMUNICATION IS THE KEY! We are here to answer your questions but make sure you read so you dont ask questions which answers are already in her profile or website :-) or at least try to avoid them :-) MODS alrwady have a busy time, i think we can all just do a little research on our own.., its really not that hard! :-)

I don't mind talking about this openly, Peachy. When I started to work, no one ever inquired about BBBJs before meeting me and I was never urged to forgo the condom when the meeting was underway. The gentlemen I saw and I might occasionally make a wry comment about it being a shame that the condom was necessary, but there was no manipulation involved. I don't think that my clients would have been happy if I'd suggested going ahead without the cover. By contrast, in my personal life, some of the men I dated were initially surprised when I reached for a condom before we were ready to have intercourse. They weren't offended; they simply didn't have any idea that oral sex might be a concern for either of us. They'd always had uncovered oral sex. That was over a decade ago. I've always worked independently and I've always done my own screening. I've generally been a low-volume companion, but even when I entertained more often, using condoms wasn't an issue for the first few years. Many things changed when I moved to Vancouver about five years ago. I needed to build a new client base, so I saw more people for quite awhile. I didn't have a website until I moved here. I advertised in print. In Toronto, I nearly always worked from hotels, but in Vancouver I've only done that a handful of times, though I do make outcall visits fairly often. I have more American clients, here, probably because we're much closer to the border and because many people travel up and down the coast all the time. I have clients from Ontario who come to Vancouver on business periodically, including two of my original clients. I have never offered BBBJs and have always made it clear in my advertising, phone conversations and e-mail that I will use condoms for everything. This began to be a deal-breaker for many prospective clients, which surprised me. Syphilis has been common in Vancouver for a very long time, was classified as an epidemic in the mid-1990s and has only recently begun to decline. The strains of syphilis, here, are notable for producing no symptoms in most people who contract it, which is one reason it spreads so easily. I no longer see anyone under 40 because I don't need to. I received considerable pressure not to use condoms for oral from younger, unmarried men. A lot of them declined to meet me, which was fine. But many of them tried to re-negotiate things after we were together in person, using the heat of the moment as an excuse, or stressing that they were "obviously clean". A rare few decided to leave instead of carrying on with the meeting. Some tried to bully me into giving refunds and one of them became very angry when I refused. The worst was a 36 year-old man who had made a couple of wry comments about the condom. Instead of having me on top of him, he wanted me on all fours. When I reached around to guide him, I found he'd taken the condom off. He laughed, "Oh, oh. You caught me!" I went ballistic. He left when I picked up the telephone. Most of my clients now are between the ages of 58 and 75. I love my regular visitors, but the prospective and first-time clients often challenge my restrictions. I don't take same-day or last-minute meetings. The combination of my screening process and my availability means that it can take anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks to meet me in person. I'm willing to exchange a lot of e-mail and have short phone conversations in the meantime. By the time my guest and I actually lay eyes on each other, we've established what I feel is a good rapport. (If we haven't, I will decline to meet.) After all of that, it's unsettling when some new visitors claim to be surprised that I won't compromise about condoms for oral sex. They often say that they didn't think I'd really meant what I'd written or said on the phone, or that they were sure I'd change my mind once we met in person. Two have brought printouts of what they said were their STI test results to use as last-minute bargaining tools. I've heard long stories about loss of sensation, about condoms being too small or too tight (even after I've unrolled one over my hand and up my forearm). I've heard about erectile problems and ejaculatory difficulties they attribute to condoms. Twice I've had clients turn a playful spanking into something that was definitely punishing because I'd used a condom on them for oral, to completion. For one of them, the spanking was pay-back. The other really thought I'd give in for the second round. (That round didn't happen!) The only people who have ever tried to talk me into BBFS have been older men. They've said that they've had vasectomies or that I'm the only woman they will have been with other than their wives. One said he had no children because of a low sperm count. Another said I could trust him because he's a physician. A couple of years ago, I saw one man who made a fuss about condoms and even asked to remove it while we were having intercourse. He contacted me recently, certain that we could work things out now that time had passed. I told him I hadn't changed my restrictions. He said he didn't expect that I would. He paid my social rate to take me out for lunch. At the end of the meeting, he was shocked when I still refused to consider meeting with him without condoms. A few days ago, a fellow I've seen four times offered a significant monthly retainer if I would agree to BBFS. He wanted to be a boyfriend who gives me money and looks the other way if I entertain anyone else. But he also travels extensively in Asia and India, where he delights in the opportunities he has for female companionship, often at very low rates. A few visitors have told me on their way out of the door or later, in e-mail, that the engagement was wonderful but, regretfully, they won't re-book because of the condom. I want to be very clear, though, that, while I do feel pressured and subjected to various kinds of manipulation, I am not worried about going out of business. Most of my clientele are regulars. I'm doing well in my corner of the profession. I don't have qualms about the choices I've made. But it has taken me quite awhile to get to be in my position and I recognize that I am where I am because of simple, plain, good luck as well as because of the way I run my business.

I just want to wish everyone a very Happy Easter! Just getting ready to head off to the airport in bit for a few days back home in England with my son and family. Hope everyone has a great long weekend and I will talk to you all next week! Cheers, Spud

http://www.123greetings.com/events/easter/happy_easter/easter_pooch_concert_fun_song.html happy easter - I hope everyone has a happy and fun weekend and I hope this card makes you laugh as much as it made me

Ever have one of those weeks where the tech fubar gremlin is sitting on your shoulder, blowing in your ear and whispering sweet nothings? When this fellow gets horny, I always end up getting fucked.

I love KCC (kissing, cuddling, conversation) Meg And it is a pleasurable intimate activity in it's own right, as enjoyable as sexual intercourse IMHO RG

It's a bit of a sticky wicket. There are lots of members on the board that partake in all three avenues of the industry - full service providers, massage and strip clubs - and therein lies the problem. CERB provides a venue for so many things that naturally some confusion is bound to occur. An educated consumer will be able to identify the area in which he or she is interested and pursue that course of action. CERB does have areas that are SP specific, MP specific and SC specific. On top of that, each member and provider has the ability to identify themselves within their profile as to which stream they belong - so the client can, at the click of a mouse, discover the nature of service that he or she may expect to receive. We truly benefit from being an inclusive community. The discussions span a wide range of topics and often they are specifically introduced to touch on subjects upon which anyone can comment. That is the beauty of a pan-industry board - each of us can contribute and those contributions, whether serious or silly, can enhance the experience for each and every one of us. The creation of a separate board would also reduce the potential consumer base. As has been stated before, your client may not be just a massage client. He may be a massage and full service client that frequents the clubs from time to time. He may just be a full service client but is intrigued by a massage provider enough that he may pursue your services in a massage environment; conversely, he may be a massage client that wishes to see a full service provider. The blended board environment fosters that cross market traffic. It's not perfect for everyone but what we have is good... and you don't want to mess with a good thing.

Why is it that when I open a bag of chips or cookies I can't eat just one I have to finish the whole bag.

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Intelligence, someone who makes me laugh and a big heart! On first sight...his smile!

For years at a strictly superficial level I was an ardent "ass man" and could not help myself from checking out ladies out. I didn't have a specific preference for any size shape, if she had an ass I checked her out LOL. Although, I still do have an appriciation for all things ass the first thing I notice over that past few years is eye's. Specificly, eyes that convey a depth and kindness and a raw smoldering sensuality. Those eyes will turn me to putty. Finally, if I just see a lady from a distance and not up close its always ladies that have an air of elegance about them that catch my eye. Elegance in the sence that she carries herself with poise, confidence and a general well put togetherness.

Interesting thought... soon to be muddied by my incoherent delivery. When I was young it was three B's ... BIG BOOBED BLONDES.... and for a few decades, those were the parameters under which I operated. Now... as I reach the Jurassic epoch of my life, I find my tastes are far more fluid. My tastes tend to weigh more on inclusiveness rather than exclusivity; I am attracted to far more women now than I ever was before. Initial attraction can be to any number of things but now I find that the more I look, the more I see; the more I see, the greater the attraction. It's probably not as specific as you would like as an answer, but as I tried to qualify a response with specifics, it dawned on me that some of the women that I love dearly in this world and the one beyond don't fit in any of the tiny boxes I tried to construct. I told ya it was going to be incoherent.

Love is so enormously important. At its strongest it promises that you can transcend that fundamental human barrier: "maybe I'm not alone after all." When romantic love is at its height, it's almost supernatural in its intensity and its power to transform our sense of who we are. Finding That Person feels like it's part of the awesome clockwork of the universe. "I've finally found my soul mate! She completes Me!" But over time, you realize... that's an illusion. She's just a human being, not the answer to the puzzle that is You. You MADE her into that ridiculously superhuman creature in your own mind. In the end yes, you care about each other, but she's not there by Fate. Same with that overwhelming supernatural bond with children. "He's my perfect little darling baby! His love is absolute and unconditional! It's the wonder of reproduction! This completes Me!" ... until you discover that no, your child is actually a separate human being with his/her own ambitions, not just an extension of your own ego. You might wake up one morning to the sad discovery the the kid you thought was so wonderful is actually just another asshole, and you need to keep your distance. Both of those feelings of love are overwhelming and wonderful while they last. You'd do ANYTHING for your girlfriend/boyfriend/son/daughter. But... that's just your reproductive faculties speaking. If you don't recover from the spell and get some perspective, then the object of your love can seize on that unquestioned commitment and manipulate you to your ruin. Your husband can treat you like crap or fritter away everything you own, but you'll stay because it's Fate and he's The One. Your kid can steal your car and rape and murder, but you'll mortgage your house and burn your savings for Him or Her because S/he is EVERYTHING to you. It's madness. It's your genes talking, and your genes are mindless idiots. That said... I'm realistic but NOT cynical about love. I think it's fantastic and one of the most valuable and constructive emotions we have. Because we're NOT alone. Granted, that supernatural sense of transcendent connection is an illusion, but there is SOME connection with the people who do love you back, and that's critical. In the end, love and its outcome is exactly what you make of it through your decisions and your actions. Be devoted to the people who care about you and who have proven themselves reliable. Do for them, as they do for you. Build a family, not based on shared genes or what you said 20 years ago in front of a priest, but with the people who year after year have proven themselves worthy of your commitment and devotion. Don't live in solitude; it wastes the best part of being human. And love is the glue that keeps such human allies together. "Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried, Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel." (Oh, and dogs too. Naturally they're honorary human beings. But you knew that.)

I like gentlemen who are kind, thoughtful, gentlemen of all shapes and sizes and income brackets . Those who appreciate a woman and all she encompasses, the whole package. Those gentlemen who take your feelings into account, who see beyond the exterior and want to experience you not just as an object but as a human being, those who don't seek perfection but want to help you be better. Those who are aware that we try hard to please them and are thankful for us and are aware that we sometimes make mistakes and forgive us for them. Thatsmy type.

Nothing, but I suspect many people, like myself, do not have a particularly large budget to pour into this hobby, which is not a cheap hobby to begin with. It can be intimidating to think of putting a large portion of luxury spending money into a possibly unsatisfactory-- experience. This, in combination with the enticement of someone new results in the large volume of "has anyone seen x?" threads and replies. --And of course even a well-reviewed and active commentator sp can have an unsatisfactory experience with a client, but more information out there in the form of recommendations and a well-known 'personality' online helps the hobbiests find the right sp for them, and this means less information means greater perception of risk for the hobbiest.

Just use what you said in this question for your introduction to the lady that interest you. I edited it below ... I think its actually pretty polite and within reason. :D lets see what other has to say.

Rebecca, stand your ground to the offerings/donations published in your adverts. Raising the bar will draw in the respectful people, hopefully keeping the low life out of your life.

Peachy and I have never met... but we have engaged in a number of conversations over the past few weeks. The more I speak to her, the more I appreciate her. In fact, her sense of conviction, her willingness to speak out on something for which she feels strongly, makes her all the more attractive in my mind. So here's to you my dear. Kudos to an admirable recipient!!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=18359 and here's a look at 12 PAGES of recos!!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=P&t=4309

This thread has veered into needed discussion territory. Confession: I love BBBJs. I would be saddened if this current industry standard changed. But I remember some "good old days" decades ago when CBJ, CFS, and non-GFE/PSE behaviour was normal. 20 years ago in a large Canadian city, here are some example of things that NO coventional phone book escort, SUN advertiser, or a corner-cutie would provide to me or anyone else I knew; LFK, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CIM, MSOG, Digits, Greek, rimming, and the list went on. At that time, I did my hobby about twice a month. Supposing 24 per year over 4 years at that time in my life, then out of about 100 hobby-times, 1) once I unexpectedly got one BBBJ in my car and 2) once I had everything including BBFS from an old girlfriend who had just started in the industry, and both of us were drunk and I did not know that she was an SP until after the glory. (Ghisele? Are you still out there?) The standard then was light rubbing, a hardening handjob, CBJ, and then CFS. The only skin in contact with my almighty one was the SP's hand, an occasional thigh, and soft tender breasts (pre-silicone era). And the number of SPs who would turn their head away or say "no" if you tried to kiss them was almost 100%. There were particular skills common within the industry at the time. Example. CBJ done well feels good. Check out the You Tube video (no link) called "How to put a condom on with your mouth" by River Huston. Done well by a skilled enthusiastic SP, its good. Different than BBBJ but good in its own way. And safer for the SP. I dont think that CBJ and BBBJ is the main difference today. I think it is something else. Today, an SP will talk and cuddle and be an individual; that non-sexual rapporting tends to enhance the overall experience these days. 20 years ago, that sort of rapport was rare. Things were quicker and more business-like. If you wanted modern options back then, you did it the hard way and not with an SP --- bar, wink, buy drink, flirt, dance, yap, FK, her place or my place, "fuck and duck" --- with no guarantee of ever getting past FK. That is all a long way of saying that I prefer BBBJ over CBJ but can be made quite happy by a CBJ if done the right way and is accompanied by more individualizing soft touches of intimate small chat, tender caresses, and light whispers in my ear. So, SPs, put industry standard on the agenda at the next union meeting. CBJ or BBBJ: both can be satisfying. But if the industry standard changes and we go back to the old ways of clock-watching, "much longer baby?", and patting my back like I am a dog, then I will considering expending my hobby efforts on a Fleshlight.

30. The Outcall at your home You have done it!!! You will no longer have to be master of your domain. Put that Kleenex box away. Today's the day you have finally saved for... you are going to meet Alotta Fagina and her new duo partner, Anita Dickens-Hyde (that's right, say it slowly...I'm a dirty freakin' genius!), at your swinging bachelor pad. Best behaviour!!! Now. Eeeeeeek. Look at this place. Ummmm. Ewwwwww. What is that smell??? Gonna need to do some laundry. Yup. Your method of saving on laundry costs by wearing t-shirts and underwear for 4 days has a price (inside out, outside in, backwards and forwards... doesn't everyone do this???) Your place kinda smells like... ummmm... how do we put it politely???? Poo. Sweat. and dead animals. Charming. A fire... you could set the place on fire. No. Bad idea. How about you clean it??? You know those dusty bottles that your sister gave you 8 years ago when you got the place??? Use those. The bedroom. It's not so bad. Okay. It looks like the bedroom of an 8 year old. The He-Man and the Masters of the Universe comforter set is quaint and charming BUT not so much on the sexy debonair suave side. You good sir are going to have to put some big boy clothes on and do some shopping. No. Chicks don't dig Transformers. You can't use that comforter set either. You know the colour of the paint on the walls?? Ask someone at the store to show you something without animated characters and sorta matches the decor. No. You can't buy the Gi Joe sheet set. No. Don't make me hit you. While you are out... did you think of refreshments?? I know that you like chocolate milk and cherry Koolaid mixed together, but it's not everyone's taste. Try something ummmm kinda grown up. Wine maybe? For GODS sake don't pick the wine in the Transformers bottle. Yes, I know it's "neat." That bottle over there - see it? Yes, that one in the clear green glass bottle. I know you don't know anything about wine. Yes, I know you don't own a corkscrew. Okay. Just pick up a bottle of white and a bottle of red with twist tops. And over there... see that section over there that says coolers? Pick up a 4 pack that is kinda girly. I have no idea what they like. Okay. I know you don't either. Jeebus. You see the pink ones? Pick those up. Oh and pick up those wine glasses over there. I know you probably won't use them again. But the LADIES might. Let's go to the grocery store now. I know you are excited. Settle down. No, you are too big to ride in the cart. I am only helping you. You need to push it yourself. Awww, don't pout. Are those, tears???? Okay you can ride in the cart. I will help you. See this?? This is bottled water. I know it's cheaper from the tap. I know you want to show the ladies your limited edition Star Wars glasses from 1983. Trust me, we will go with the bottled water. Oh hey... look at that. It's cheese and it doesn't come in a can!!! Let's do some of that. You don't have plates? Okay. Let's go to the deli... they have a cheese and crackers platter at a reasonable price. What do you mean you don't have napkins. Ohhhh... you use Cottonelle for everything. Not today. No sir, not today. I am guessing you don't have candles. Oh you do??? Lord of the Rings Hobbit Candles. Charming. Nothing sorta plain?? Okay let's forget the candles, the less they see of your place the better. Gents... when you invite a provider to your home treat them with the respect they deserve. Clean. Yup. Clean. The bathroom, the bedroom, the living room and the kitchen. If you provide refreshments do so from a SEALED bottle opened in their presence. Make an effort. You make THEM bacon sandwiches!!! They are your guests! 31. Great Expectations It's happened to all of us on BOTH sides of the equation. You have been speaking for weeks, have exchanged PMs, texts, calls... and today is the day that you are finally going to meet. The door opens... and meh. It's certainly not unique to this world, it happens on dating sites all over. It's happened at high school reunions. It happens everywhere. You have envisioned a mix of Megan Fox/Angelina Jolie/Sasha Grey and are met with ummmmm... not that. You are disappointed. You have built up the moment in your head, the dream date with Megangelisha... and are met with a pretty woman that isn't her. What to do? Step back. Take a moment. Take stock. You aren't Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum or Shemar Moore. You are just a guy. She is a pretty girl. Give your head a shake. She is going to touch your wiener. She is a pretty wiener touching girl. Not only that, she is the pretty wiener touching girl that has an amazing personality. She is a charming pretty wiener touching girl that smells really good. She is an aromatic charming pretty wiener touching girl wearing a beautiful negligee cut so low that you see her amazing boobies. She is an aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has just invited your into her home. She is a welcoming aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has just planted the most amazing kiss on your lips. She is a kissable welcoming aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has changed your opinion. No longer meh. She's HAWT. She isn't Megangelisha but then again you aren't Brachanmar. That's a good thing too, cuz neither of your fake names is frickin' pronounceable. What you are is.... together, at her place, at the appointed time, with the correct amount of money, with a couple of hours open, with a bottle of wine and possessing some degree of chemistry. A light goes on in your head. This is good. This is really good. Of course then she kills you. You knocked on the wrong door. Had you followed the directions she gave you, you would have been alive BUT OHHHH NO.... you had to be the guy who doesn't need directions. Serves you right to be dead. You knocked on the door of the notorious negligee nympho killer. She's probably desecrating your corpse right now.... No, I'm just messing with ya. She didn't kill you. If she did, you wouldn't be reading this. You had a really good time. She rocked your world. Your wiener is kinda sore, but in a good way. You learned a valuable lesson. Don't dismiss something that could be great. You built the rapport, follow through. Read the directions to her place. Don't knock on the wrong door. Beware of nearly nude nymphos with knives. If she is playing the theme from Psycho, run. Don't go swimming until an hour after you have eaten. Don't stick forks in live electrical outlets. If you can't pronounce it, don't eat it. It's amazing being me. Bwahahahahahah

I've just seen her today for her oral special....can't say enough good things about this beauty.

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As for a woman, I like all sorts of body styles and a woman that dresses in a way that complements her features is very sexy. On first sight the eyes and smile has most impact. I realize the question is on "first sight" but an attractive woman to me is confident, considerate, kind, acccepts you for who you are but at the same time brings the best out of you and appreciates your cooking even though she is a way better cook than you. As for a man, I like a man that hits well with runners in scoring position, has power and speed, a good throwing arm, never gets thrown out at third, never misses a sign, and plays his position to a gold glove standard. Or to say it simply, Andre Dawson!

Like Others, I too generally Play Monday-Friday, But am willing to make exceptions for evenings or Saturdays. I never Sin on Sunday. okay...maybe once, but I try not to. ;) I Do not offer FS- So not sure if my comment is relevant in this section. Either way- here it is ;) Rrrrroar!

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Ummm, what's wrong with just trying her to see for yourself?

What disturbs me most about the article is that someone intentionally went cruising for victims, much like the predators that stalk SPs; with intention of transmitting a disease. If the client base knew how many crazies providers deal with, this article wouldn't seem inflammatory, it would just make sense as to why she posted the link... cat

I digress. I think everything is fair game. To say that some topics are irrelevant discussion just seems bizarre to me. I don't know what you picked up from this thread, but I did learn something new from it. Here's what I do with a thread with a topic I have no care in the world for - ignore it. I can't think of any industry out there that isn't influenced by what their competitors are doing. To say that what another SP does is none of another SP's business is in my opinion massively presumptuous. Nevertheless, I haven't read many SPs on this thread actively denigrating others for offering the service. Finally, statistics aside, lets look at one fact. 16 respondents replied with the feeling of being pressured. I can't for the life of me begin to understand that sort of pressure in this case, but I can do my part in alleviating that concern. Call the stats completely bogus, but you can't deny that for whatever reasons, even for those that you think are dumb or non-existent, they are some you do have the feeling of being pressured. At this point it just becomes your decision with what you decide to do with whatever you've read here. I've already said what I'd do from now on, and if you read my previous comment again, you'll see I don't try to impose this on anyone else. Why this thread is important to me- I saw something that raised an alarm in my head, and decided to do something different. I am glad for this sort of discussion.

I would highly recommend her, she is fit with a fabulous set of twins... I get a hold of her through texting... I believe she is working this week...??

Personally, I think that love is essential for our well-being. It is human to want contact with others. Babies who get little physical contact often fail to thrive. Adults who are extremely isolated often develop serious physical and mental health problems. One reason many people experience dogs as therapeutic is that dogs give their owners unconditional love and approval. A dog can be a remedy for depression for some people. I also think that love isn't about heart-shaped boxes of chocolates, bouquets of flowers or poetry, though it may include them. Love is not that heart-thumping elation one might feel for a new partner, though it may include that, too. In some religious traditions there are commandments about love, loving neighbours, loving strangers and engaging in loving acts. Love can be commanded or required because, ultimately, love is not what we feel, it's what we do. It's how we treat others. Not just people we already care about and who have done good things for us, but people we don't know or have good reason not to like, care for or trust.

to me, i have a live and let live attitude. Im a SAFE GFE, and i don't get mad at ladies providing bbbj's or bbfs, even though i personally feel they both activities have the potential to my health and life at risk. I've learned in this industry that what is right for me may not be right for someone else. As has been stated so many times on here before,by clients and sp's alike, a ladies body is her decision, its her business and she can run it how she see's fit. That being said, I don't understand how its not ok to judge or shun a lady for providing BBBJ, but it is ok to judge and shun a lady who does BBFS. Just like a BBBJ, if a lady has weighed and judged the risks of BBFS and decides she wants to do it, who am I to say anything? Like as stated in the bbbj thread, if there's a demand for a certain service, the lady can either offer it or not. If business drops off, then "she has a decision to make" as so eloquently stated. If as a safe gfe i cannot ( and do not)judge ladies who do bbbj, how can i or anyone else judge ladies providing bbfs? In my mind that makes no sense. We cannot say it's ok to judge in one situation but not another. To me a bbbj is just as scary as bbfs. However, i understand that the women providing both of these services have weighed and judged the risks in their minds, and decided that for whatever reason they want to provide them. That is their choice and I respect it. I have no right to judge anyone. There was a time when bbbj was taboo, now it is the norm. Clients ask for it, so ladies oblige. Naturally, now some clients are asking for BBFS, and from the demand, there are some ladies who are just providing what their clients are asking for. We can't pick and choose when its ok to point fingers and when its not. To sum it up, it's your life, do with it as you see fit. everyone can do whatever they want, its a free society!

Yes for me,I look forward to my personal time on the weekend. Unless someone has contacted me on a Thurs or Friday, and made arrangments...then my phone goes on silent mode. ALSO in the case of incalls, especially if residental...then most of the neighbors are home and I just dont want any red flags to go off. So I tend to keep my visitors for the weekdays during office hours, this way most of the neighbors are at work and are none the wiser.

Good point. The question is whether a BBBJ is as dangerous as BBFS. The simple answer is "probably not." But like many simple answers, that is actually misleading. A better question is, For whom is a BBBJ dangerous? The answer is it's most dangerous for the receptive partner--for the person who is performing the act. Have a look at this Sexually Transmitted Infection Risk Chart. The person who receives oral sex is less likely to contract an STI than the one who performs it. The performer is at higher risk of being infected with HIV/AIDS, chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis than the one who receives it. The chart doesn't include other infections that are transmissible during oral sex like herpes, human pampilloma virus (HPV) and some forms of hepatitis. These are also serious diseases, but unlike HIV/AIDS, chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis, there are no laws requiring medical practitioners to report the infections. In simple language, if I perform a BBBJ on a man, the risk is greater for me than it is for him. If he has one of these STIs, I may be infected. If I have one of them, he has a lower risk of getting it from me. We might ask why there's a difference. Basically, many of us have tiny lesions in our mouths, caused by tooth brushing, flossing, reactions to foods or medications and minor injuries. Those lesions are an excellent entry-point for infection. Add to this the potential for minor injury caused by vigorous thrusting or an awkward angle. I've been part of a discussion with other ladies here about accommodating larger penises orally, about having sore throats or feeling that our lips and mouths have been uncomfortably stretched after performing oral sex. To sum it up, BBBJs are risky for paid companions and other people who provide them. The risk for clients and those who receive them is lower. This is misleading, MP. If the condom breaks or comes off, you're not coming into contact with all of my clients and everyone's various partners, but only with those people with whom I have engaged in unprotected sexual activities. Everyone else has been "contained." However, condoms don't protect anyone against everything! For example, syphilis, herpes and HPV are spread via skin-to-skin contact as well as by penetrative sexual activities. Herpes usually produces sores, but can also be shed when no sores are present. In its second stage, syphilis produces a rash on the hands, the soles of the feet or all over the body. Contact with this rash is an infection risk. HPV (genital warts and in its other forms) may or may not produce any sores but can still be contagious. Many STIs are treatable with antibiotics. The difficulty is that many of them produce no symptoms, so infected people don't know that they're infected. We've had a classified syphilis epidemic in Vancouver since the mid-1990s and the form of syphilis here has not produced symptoms in most people. HIV/AIDS is not treatable with antibiotics, but there are anti-retroviral drugs that seem to be effective in managing the illness for many people. Unfortunately, not everyone can tolerate these medications. Also, there's evidence that HIV/AIDS affects women differently than men in many cases. Last summer, the prevalence of an antibiotic-resistant form of gonorrhea was announced. Only one drug was effective against this strain. By December, no antibiotics were effective in treating patients who were diagnosed in Toronto, as reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association in January. Why do paid companions continue to provide BBBJs? Cat said, This is extremely important and should not be dismissed lightly or out of hand! Many companions are not aware of the risks of infection. Many who are accept the reality of statistical risk and choose to be zealous about being tested very frequently. They offer the activity because they need to make a living, pure and simple, and there are an enormous number of men who insist on receiving it. I don't offer BBBJs, but I do allow DATY. Many of my clients find oral sex to be less than satisfying because they have erectile or ejaculatory problems. But if I refused to permit DATY, or if I insisted on using barriers, such as dental dams, I would need to find another line of work. To be brutally honest, I'm a paid companion because nothing else I do can support my family above the poverty line. I would be thrilled if there was no pressure to provide BBBJs. I think that the gentlemen on this board could do a great deal about this, though much as I care for most here, I am under no illusions that it will happen. Stop asking for BBBJs and start telling other men of the risks associated with them. Help reduce the demand! Classify bareback contact as "husband and wife sex" and not part of the "girlfriend experience." The last thing I want to point out is that most men are never tested for STIs! Unless you are being tested every 3-6 months, it's my respectful opinion that you have little right to talk about sexual health risks or to give advice to anyone about the level of risk they should tolerate. Everyone who has any kind of sexual contact with another human being should be tested regularly. If you don't want to ask your doctor to do the tests, there are clinics near you where you can be tested. Go!

I think that any time the condom comes off, the uncovered act that follows is exactly as unsafe as it was 30 years ago. You're diving "head-first" into one big pool of shared particles populated by your SP and all of her clients, and all of their partners, and all of yours. There's no getting around that. That's compounded by the recent (and inevitable) rise of antibiotic-resistant strains of STDs in the news. It's not just AIDS that can change your life forever.

The demands placed on service providers, as stated over and over again in this thread, in private and in general, over the past 10-15 years have become increasingly outrageous, health-wise, mentally and financially...to the determent of the ladies blatantly and the industry as a whole. There are a wide range of ladies in this business for an even wider range of reasons, always has been, always will be...some are forced, some have no other alternatives, some are experimenting, some have habits to support, some are trying to accomplish a goal, some have chosen this as their very respectable profession....whatever the reason, it is and should be regarded as a safe, no strings attached luxury service being offered for adequate compensation. In the past ten years, the demands and expectations that the industry/clients have put on not only escorts, but exotic dancers and erotic massage providers as well, is out of control...in my opinion. Dancers are expected to do more than just dance, massage attendants are expected to do more than just massage and escorts are expected to do more than just full service...no matter what a woman's limits or comfort levels are in this business, they are constantly being forced and pressured to cross the line...for much less. Women have to DO more, GIVE more, BE more intimate and make LESS or starve/be shunned because there is always someone else who will do more and charge less for it...they have no other choice or simply don't care/are unaware about their safety, the integrity of the industry or the bigger picture/consequences of their actions...actions which affect everyone eventually. Has anyone thought about how sad it is that a beautiful and talented woman cannot earn a living as a dancer just performing an erotic strip tease anymore? Dancers are expected to practically be an escort for $20 a song on a chair in a back room now... A massage attendant cannot earn a living only providing an amazing full body massage...MAs are constantly expected and pressured to do more and be more intimate on a massage table than an escort should even have to be! An escort cannot come close to earning a decent living only providing companionship and safe full service....she is expected to provide an unprecedented list of services, take extremely unhealthy risks over and over and over again on a daily basis for less than it costs most people to fill their car with gas and she is expected be completely happy about it day after day. More and more very young, completely naive, inexperienced women are entering the sex industry and these are the expectations they are being faced with, they are being told/learn that this is the way it is and so this is what it has become. If its not provided by one, its provided by another, for whatever reason...of course there is going to be a rise in BBFS....just as the demand for BBBJs, DFK, DATY and even GREEK, which were all completely taboo and unheard of practices years ago, are now fully expected, by the majority of clients, as services provided in a basic encounter with an escort...BBFS is not a far stretch when BBBJs and DFK/DATY are already commonplace, think about it. In general, a service provider, who does not openly meet these expectations, is not considered "worth it" by the majority of clients today (extremely sad to say)...if she does not provide these options and an unheard of level of intimacy, at the drop of a hat for a ridiculously low price to boot...someone will and no one will want her eventually. So, what are her options now? Everyone needs to take a hard look at what has happened in the past ten years...take a look at the alarming rise in STDs in Ottawa alone, the strength of Gonorrhea and Chlamydia, the comeback of Syphilis (transmitted/contracted orally as well, don't kid yourself)...the "unrestricted" services being demanded and provided by "non-crack addicted" service providers...why? Because its expected and financially they feel they have no choice..."supply and demand", right? With all due respect to the beautiful ladies and gentlemen on this board and beyond, ask yourself, are you part of the problem or part of the solution...and in reality, which one do you really want to be? BBFS is not the shocking beginning to the decline of safety in this industry its the grand finale.

I don't think it's going to become more prevalent at all. It does exist out there, and it always has. But I personally think it becomes less and less prevalent, as many women in this business are smart, savvy, entrepreneurs, not all women who are just looking for money. It may be being talked about more now, but I don't think that in any way means it's going to become more common. As you can see from this thread already, we girls blacklist guys who want BBFS, and men will blacklist a girl who offers it. My hope is that, instead of becoming more common, these blacklistings will help to weed the BBFS morons out completely, and make it LESS prevalent, instead of more.

I have been in this business on and off for almost 2 decades ( almost) ;) When I first stared out, a BBBJ was unheard of and very much looked down upon by other sp`s. I am not trying to be disrespectful, but in the early to mid 90`s, those who did provide bbbj-were ladies who usually were in this business strictly for a crack fix. I am sure not all ladies who did provide bbbj back then were, but the ones me and my other sp friends knew of were in fact hard core drug addicts. Forward now to my return in 2009. It appeared that it was now the norm to provide bbbj. And the ladies who now provided them were gorgeous, sexy sp`s without any drug issues. I could not understand this-at all, because like I said the norm that I knew was to protect and do things safely. A couple of years back, I came across a few hobbiests speaking about how they loved bbfs, both vaginal and ANAL...on a low class site where they are actually allowed and proud to brag about stupid shit like that. Do I agree with the BBFS-hello NO!!! But at the sametime it does not surprise me either. Just wanted to add that I too, take risks by allowing daty & DFK (YMMV) with clients. Before my return to this occupation in 2009, I NEVER would allow dfk and daty on me was very rare. I realized that I had to change this in order to be succesful as an sp. Especially since I had other restrictions (aside from no bbfs) We are in a time where we have access to an information goldmine on the risks and how to protect ourselves, but...... people still want to take the risks because the like the way it feels.

The so called "patient zero" of the AIDS epidemic was a French Canadian flight attendant, who, despite knowing he was infected, slept with thousands of people with no protection. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABtan_Dugas#section_4 Anyone doing BBFS is basically playing Russian Roulette with awful diseases instead of bullets.

BBFS I really hope to change your mind So please listen to my plea Rumour has it SPs from my city Offer full service BB Which means they use no condom When letting clients 'in' You all know in this business That's a major mortal sin We must keep one another safe It's the only thing we've got So by accepting this behaviour You're worse off than I thought No amount of cash you've got Will convince me to sex bare If you ever try and do it I'll crush your balls I swear Paid sex can't be unprotected Your dick could get infected So for those of us who don't And no matter what we won't Are the ones you need to see To remain STD free

Man oh man do i love a woman in heels in or out of bed. In fact it is a bit of a Tumblr addiction right now...... So fir me i do not like the high platform stripper shoes....in fact they are a downer for me. Simple stilleto style. FMP fuck me pumps....perkaboo style toes are incredible Strappy sandle typor even the simple mule.....but the mule does not stay on the ladies foot well when changing positions. With or without stockings a sexy piece of footwear is s must. Boots cover up the sexy calf to much. Wedges seem to clunky Flats and maryjanes are slso a downer for the antler I like the leg to be amplified.....it looks freaking great! Posted via Mobile Device