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I'm only going to add a short two cents to this thread, I'm not taking part in the poll because I think its encouraging another statistic of "oh look, x amount of girls are offerring x service" and "only x are offering this" so the lower amount of girls who arent offering x service should catch up to those that are. potatoe, potatah-toe....lets live and let live. if you want a specific service, ask for it like a gentleman, if the lady doesnt offer it (and if thats a real deal breaker for you...tisk) then dont see her but getting us all to make a new statistic based on a poll about what the new Cerb.ca supposed "norm" is? Depending on the outcome, its not helping anyone (psst!..mainly us!) and...well....bah I'm not even gonna finish that cuz i think you know where I'm going with this....

Meg, I love to linger in the afterglow, chat and smooch while softly running my fingertips over all the ladies curves. It's a beautiful moment if the connection between the SP and client is right.

... and the moral of the story is, whatever way you get em, a blowjob is a great thing. amen.

Gonorrhea is the second most-commonly diagnosed STI in North America. It has been treated with antibiotics, but has been growing resistant for 70 years. In the 1940s, sulfa drugs stopped being effective. In the 1970s, so did penicillins; tetracyclines lost effectiveness in the 1980s. In 2007, fluroquinolone drugs also stopped working. In August, the US Center for Disease Control announced that oral cephalosporins were no longer recommended for treating gonorrhea. The CDC issued new treatment guidelines for gonorrhea recommending a multiple antibiotic regime. In January, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that the one remaining drug that had been effective, Cefixime, was not effective in a number of cases identified in Toronto. An additional article in the same issue of the JAMA noted that there are no other treatment options available. Gonorrhea can live happily in a human throat, undetected. Anyone who has gonorrhea is at increased risk of infection if they come in contact with HIV/AIDS.

Sorry, but I'm never pushy, and I always think with my head on my shoulders at all times with a lady, and always act like a complete gentleman. Please don't lump me in with "we as men can be pushy" Thanks.

Well I take pity on my fellow CERB-ites and only post this on one of the three threads. This argument is getting tiresome, and not just this particular time. It seems we keep going down the same path, having the same arguments over and over again. I just spent about 2 minutes with this wonderful feature we have on this site called "search" (something that some of you should seriously try using some time) and here are just four threads of many on the topic. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71451&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34872&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20951&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16380&highlight=transmission This time though we have three active threads with the same people posting on all three of them, and rarely providing any new information and insight that is not already on this board. First someone hijacked a thread on BBFS to rant about the perils of BBBJ. Then an SP put up a poll with a set of questions that although well-meaning just made things more complicated. Believe it or not folks there is a science to writing polls to gather data properly. Then a hobbiest in attempt to clarify things posted an SP only poll with the same sort of problematic questions. The we have people cross-posting links irrelevant to the discussion on multiple threads. A serious breach of netiquette on any board. What angers me the most is that these arguments are not being made in the interest of health and safety, they are being made because some people feel they have an economic interest at stake. Case in point, an SP on here last night posting about how she felt that to keep her financial well being she had to offer BBBJ. The word being thrown around is coercion, which is pretty strong. It generally implies some sort of duress being applied. I don't think that a hobbiest choosing to see an SP who does BBBJ instead of CBJ is really duress. Particularly since the anecdotal evidence on these threads is that for the vast majority of the hobbiests it has no bearing. I am not going searching for facts, and transmission rates as someone on here has suggested. There is no need. A lot of what we do in this hobby has risks. Condoms are not 100% effective. I am not going to cite the failure rate here and have people shoot at my statistics, look it up. The point is that they break, slip off, and do not prevent all diseases, particularly herpes, warts and even HPV. (and I could add non-STI infections as well) And if you are going to look it up then Wikipedia and Ask.com may be a good place to start, but do us all a favour and try and find some primary sources. Dig deeper, and look at several sources, because there are a lot of different facts and statistics out there depending on who is presenting them. A lot of people on the internet have their own agenda. (surprise surprise) The fact of the matter is that this hobby is full of risks, and not just from STI's. The only safe way to avoid these risks is not to have sex or contact with another human at all. I don't think many of us would want to do that. How a person handles these risks, mitigates them, protects themselves and their partners is what is important. Is there a risk with BBBJ, yes there is. But there is also a demand for it, and not just from the hobbiests. I know many SP's who really don't like sucking on a latex condom. That is their choice. They know the risks. Is BBBJ the only risky thing we do in this hobby? Not by a long shot. My final word is this. Wanting to have a BBBJ or a CBJ is a personal choice. Wanting to provide either is also a personal choice. If you choose not to provide that service then live with your decision. If someone else makes a different choice it is none of your business. You can say it is coercion, but I would also say that trying to use peer-pressure on a board like this to try and convince your competition to do something different is also coercion. To the mod(s) as I have shown here we have debated this thread ad nauseum over the years, and nothing really new has been added to the mix. We now have 3 similar threads. Can we at least merge them, if you are not going to lock them?

Why is it that when I go to the grocery store with only a few small things on my list, I always leave with $300 worth of groceries?

>Why is it that none of the major holidays are celebrated with naked lasciviousness rather than chocolate confections? Yes we need a bacchanalian festival. Why is it that people who care enough about their health to drink water in a water bottle, care so little about the health of the environment to leave the plastic bottle behind in the park.

In my experience Claire Heavens works really well as a Viagra substitute. :) No need of anything like that when you're around her.....

As Duke says it..., To start just look.., are they posting their adds in the Massage only Section or in the Full Service Provider/ escort section... Also very important..., if you find yourself interested in a lady, read her profile, if the lady has her own website, read thatbone too...., inform yourself..., If after reading you still have any doubts as to what services she offers..., contact her directly, and ask pertinent questions... As whiteman said COMUNICATION IS THE KEY! We are here to answer your questions but make sure you read so you dont ask questions which answers are already in her profile or website :-) or at least try to avoid them :-) MODS alrwady have a busy time, i think we can all just do a little research on our own.., its really not that hard! :-)

I don't mind talking about this openly, Peachy. When I started to work, no one ever inquired about BBBJs before meeting me and I was never urged to forgo the condom when the meeting was underway. The gentlemen I saw and I might occasionally make a wry comment about it being a shame that the condom was necessary, but there was no manipulation involved. I don't think that my clients would have been happy if I'd suggested going ahead without the cover. By contrast, in my personal life, some of the men I dated were initially surprised when I reached for a condom before we were ready to have intercourse. They weren't offended; they simply didn't have any idea that oral sex might be a concern for either of us. They'd always had uncovered oral sex. That was over a decade ago. I've always worked independently and I've always done my own screening. I've generally been a low-volume companion, but even when I entertained more often, using condoms wasn't an issue for the first few years. Many things changed when I moved to Vancouver about five years ago. I needed to build a new client base, so I saw more people for quite awhile. I didn't have a website until I moved here. I advertised in print. In Toronto, I nearly always worked from hotels, but in Vancouver I've only done that a handful of times, though I do make outcall visits fairly often. I have more American clients, here, probably because we're much closer to the border and because many people travel up and down the coast all the time. I have clients from Ontario who come to Vancouver on business periodically, including two of my original clients. I have never offered BBBJs and have always made it clear in my advertising, phone conversations and e-mail that I will use condoms for everything. This began to be a deal-breaker for many prospective clients, which surprised me. Syphilis has been common in Vancouver for a very long time, was classified as an epidemic in the mid-1990s and has only recently begun to decline. The strains of syphilis, here, are notable for producing no symptoms in most people who contract it, which is one reason it spreads so easily. I no longer see anyone under 40 because I don't need to. I received considerable pressure not to use condoms for oral from younger, unmarried men. A lot of them declined to meet me, which was fine. But many of them tried to re-negotiate things after we were together in person, using the heat of the moment as an excuse, or stressing that they were "obviously clean". A rare few decided to leave instead of carrying on with the meeting. Some tried to bully me into giving refunds and one of them became very angry when I refused. The worst was a 36 year-old man who had made a couple of wry comments about the condom. Instead of having me on top of him, he wanted me on all fours. When I reached around to guide him, I found he'd taken the condom off. He laughed, "Oh, oh. You caught me!" I went ballistic. He left when I picked up the telephone. Most of my clients now are between the ages of 58 and 75. I love my regular visitors, but the prospective and first-time clients often challenge my restrictions. I don't take same-day or last-minute meetings. The combination of my screening process and my availability means that it can take anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks to meet me in person. I'm willing to exchange a lot of e-mail and have short phone conversations in the meantime. By the time my guest and I actually lay eyes on each other, we've established what I feel is a good rapport. (If we haven't, I will decline to meet.) After all of that, it's unsettling when some new visitors claim to be surprised that I won't compromise about condoms for oral sex. They often say that they didn't think I'd really meant what I'd written or said on the phone, or that they were sure I'd change my mind once we met in person. Two have brought printouts of what they said were their STI test results to use as last-minute bargaining tools. I've heard long stories about loss of sensation, about condoms being too small or too tight (even after I've unrolled one over my hand and up my forearm). I've heard about erectile problems and ejaculatory difficulties they attribute to condoms. Twice I've had clients turn a playful spanking into something that was definitely punishing because I'd used a condom on them for oral, to completion. For one of them, the spanking was pay-back. The other really thought I'd give in for the second round. (That round didn't happen!) The only people who have ever tried to talk me into BBFS have been older men. They've said that they've had vasectomies or that I'm the only woman they will have been with other than their wives. One said he had no children because of a low sperm count. Another said I could trust him because he's a physician. A couple of years ago, I saw one man who made a fuss about condoms and even asked to remove it while we were having intercourse. He contacted me recently, certain that we could work things out now that time had passed. I told him I hadn't changed my restrictions. He said he didn't expect that I would. He paid my social rate to take me out for lunch. At the end of the meeting, he was shocked when I still refused to consider meeting with him without condoms. A few days ago, a fellow I've seen four times offered a significant monthly retainer if I would agree to BBFS. He wanted to be a boyfriend who gives me money and looks the other way if I entertain anyone else. But he also travels extensively in Asia and India, where he delights in the opportunities he has for female companionship, often at very low rates. A few visitors have told me on their way out of the door or later, in e-mail, that the engagement was wonderful but, regretfully, they won't re-book because of the condom. I want to be very clear, though, that, while I do feel pressured and subjected to various kinds of manipulation, I am not worried about going out of business. Most of my clientele are regulars. I'm doing well in my corner of the profession. I don't have qualms about the choices I've made. But it has taken me quite awhile to get to be in my position and I recognize that I am where I am because of simple, plain, good luck as well as because of the way I run my business.

I just want to wish everyone a very Happy Easter! Just getting ready to head off to the airport in bit for a few days back home in England with my son and family. Hope everyone has a great long weekend and I will talk to you all next week! Cheers, Spud

http://www.123greetings.com/events/easter/happy_easter/easter_pooch_concert_fun_song.html happy easter - I hope everyone has a happy and fun weekend and I hope this card makes you laugh as much as it made me

Ever have one of those weeks where the tech fubar gremlin is sitting on your shoulder, blowing in your ear and whispering sweet nothings? When this fellow gets horny, I always end up getting fucked.

I love KCC (kissing, cuddling, conversation) Meg And it is a pleasurable intimate activity in it's own right, as enjoyable as sexual intercourse IMHO RG

It's a bit of a sticky wicket. There are lots of members on the board that partake in all three avenues of the industry - full service providers, massage and strip clubs - and therein lies the problem. CERB provides a venue for so many things that naturally some confusion is bound to occur. An educated consumer will be able to identify the area in which he or she is interested and pursue that course of action. CERB does have areas that are SP specific, MP specific and SC specific. On top of that, each member and provider has the ability to identify themselves within their profile as to which stream they belong - so the client can, at the click of a mouse, discover the nature of service that he or she may expect to receive. We truly benefit from being an inclusive community. The discussions span a wide range of topics and often they are specifically introduced to touch on subjects upon which anyone can comment. That is the beauty of a pan-industry board - each of us can contribute and those contributions, whether serious or silly, can enhance the experience for each and every one of us. The creation of a separate board would also reduce the potential consumer base. As has been stated before, your client may not be just a massage client. He may be a massage and full service client that frequents the clubs from time to time. He may just be a full service client but is intrigued by a massage provider enough that he may pursue your services in a massage environment; conversely, he may be a massage client that wishes to see a full service provider. The blended board environment fosters that cross market traffic. It's not perfect for everyone but what we have is good... and you don't want to mess with a good thing.

Why is it that when I open a bag of chips or cookies I can't eat just one I have to finish the whole bag.

Hey there... If your looking for some sweet attention or affection ill be sure to satisfy you 100% with pleasure... I give a very good massage and I offer slippery/sexy body slides...I am super easy to talk to and have an extremely bubbly personality. Come enjoy my tight body and beautiful assets, while I make you feel relaxed, turned on and glad you came.... I work at Paradise Spa, located in the west end of Ottawa... It is an upscale, classy and discrete spa with showers in every room... The rooms also include large mirrors, music and black lights to intensify your sensual experience... In calls only please Available until 4pm today Call 613-820-8887 to book an appointment XOXOX

Intelligence, someone who makes me laugh and a big heart! On first sight...his smile!

For years at a strictly superficial level I was an ardent "ass man" and could not help myself from checking out ladies out. I didn't have a specific preference for any size shape, if she had an ass I checked her out LOL. Although, I still do have an appriciation for all things ass the first thing I notice over that past few years is eye's. Specificly, eyes that convey a depth and kindness and a raw smoldering sensuality. Those eyes will turn me to putty. Finally, if I just see a lady from a distance and not up close its always ladies that have an air of elegance about them that catch my eye. Elegance in the sence that she carries herself with poise, confidence and a general well put togetherness.

Interesting thought... soon to be muddied by my incoherent delivery. When I was young it was three B's ... BIG BOOBED BLONDES.... and for a few decades, those were the parameters under which I operated. Now... as I reach the Jurassic epoch of my life, I find my tastes are far more fluid. My tastes tend to weigh more on inclusiveness rather than exclusivity; I am attracted to far more women now than I ever was before. Initial attraction can be to any number of things but now I find that the more I look, the more I see; the more I see, the greater the attraction. It's probably not as specific as you would like as an answer, but as I tried to qualify a response with specifics, it dawned on me that some of the women that I love dearly in this world and the one beyond don't fit in any of the tiny boxes I tried to construct. I told ya it was going to be incoherent.

Love is so enormously important. At its strongest it promises that you can transcend that fundamental human barrier: "maybe I'm not alone after all." When romantic love is at its height, it's almost supernatural in its intensity and its power to transform our sense of who we are. Finding That Person feels like it's part of the awesome clockwork of the universe. "I've finally found my soul mate! She completes Me!" But over time, you realize... that's an illusion. She's just a human being, not the answer to the puzzle that is You. You MADE her into that ridiculously superhuman creature in your own mind. In the end yes, you care about each other, but she's not there by Fate. Same with that overwhelming supernatural bond with children. "He's my perfect little darling baby! His love is absolute and unconditional! It's the wonder of reproduction! This completes Me!" ... until you discover that no, your child is actually a separate human being with his/her own ambitions, not just an extension of your own ego. You might wake up one morning to the sad discovery the the kid you thought was so wonderful is actually just another asshole, and you need to keep your distance. Both of those feelings of love are overwhelming and wonderful while they last. You'd do ANYTHING for your girlfriend/boyfriend/son/daughter. But... that's just your reproductive faculties speaking. If you don't recover from the spell and get some perspective, then the object of your love can seize on that unquestioned commitment and manipulate you to your ruin. Your husband can treat you like crap or fritter away everything you own, but you'll stay because it's Fate and he's The One. Your kid can steal your car and rape and murder, but you'll mortgage your house and burn your savings for Him or Her because S/he is EVERYTHING to you. It's madness. It's your genes talking, and your genes are mindless idiots. That said... I'm realistic but NOT cynical about love. I think it's fantastic and one of the most valuable and constructive emotions we have. Because we're NOT alone. Granted, that supernatural sense of transcendent connection is an illusion, but there is SOME connection with the people who do love you back, and that's critical. In the end, love and its outcome is exactly what you make of it through your decisions and your actions. Be devoted to the people who care about you and who have proven themselves reliable. Do for them, as they do for you. Build a family, not based on shared genes or what you said 20 years ago in front of a priest, but with the people who year after year have proven themselves worthy of your commitment and devotion. Don't live in solitude; it wastes the best part of being human. And love is the glue that keeps such human allies together. "Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried, Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel." (Oh, and dogs too. Naturally they're honorary human beings. But you knew that.)

I like gentlemen who are kind, thoughtful, gentlemen of all shapes and sizes and income brackets . Those who appreciate a woman and all she encompasses, the whole package. Those gentlemen who take your feelings into account, who see beyond the exterior and want to experience you not just as an object but as a human being, those who don't seek perfection but want to help you be better. Those who are aware that we try hard to please them and are thankful for us and are aware that we sometimes make mistakes and forgive us for them. Thatsmy type.

Nothing, but I suspect many people, like myself, do not have a particularly large budget to pour into this hobby, which is not a cheap hobby to begin with. It can be intimidating to think of putting a large portion of luxury spending money into a possibly unsatisfactory-- experience. This, in combination with the enticement of someone new results in the large volume of "has anyone seen x?" threads and replies. --And of course even a well-reviewed and active commentator sp can have an unsatisfactory experience with a client, but more information out there in the form of recommendations and a well-known 'personality' online helps the hobbiests find the right sp for them, and this means less information means greater perception of risk for the hobbiest.

Just use what you said in this question for your introduction to the lady that interest you. I edited it below ... I think its actually pretty polite and within reason. :D lets see what other has to say.

Rebecca, stand your ground to the offerings/donations published in your adverts. Raising the bar will draw in the respectful people, hopefully keeping the low life out of your life.

Peachy and I have never met... but we have engaged in a number of conversations over the past few weeks. The more I speak to her, the more I appreciate her. In fact, her sense of conviction, her willingness to speak out on something for which she feels strongly, makes her all the more attractive in my mind. So here's to you my dear. Kudos to an admirable recipient!!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=18359 and here's a look at 12 PAGES of recos!!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=P&t=4309

This thread has veered into needed discussion territory. Confession: I love BBBJs. I would be saddened if this current industry standard changed. But I remember some "good old days" decades ago when CBJ, CFS, and non-GFE/PSE behaviour was normal. 20 years ago in a large Canadian city, here are some example of things that NO coventional phone book escort, SUN advertiser, or a corner-cutie would provide to me or anyone else I knew; LFK, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CIM, MSOG, Digits, Greek, rimming, and the list went on. At that time, I did my hobby about twice a month. Supposing 24 per year over 4 years at that time in my life, then out of about 100 hobby-times, 1) once I unexpectedly got one BBBJ in my car and 2) once I had everything including BBFS from an old girlfriend who had just started in the industry, and both of us were drunk and I did not know that she was an SP until after the glory. (Ghisele? Are you still out there?) The standard then was light rubbing, a hardening handjob, CBJ, and then CFS. The only skin in contact with my almighty one was the SP's hand, an occasional thigh, and soft tender breasts (pre-silicone era). And the number of SPs who would turn their head away or say "no" if you tried to kiss them was almost 100%. There were particular skills common within the industry at the time. Example. CBJ done well feels good. Check out the You Tube video (no link) called "How to put a condom on with your mouth" by River Huston. Done well by a skilled enthusiastic SP, its good. Different than BBBJ but good in its own way. And safer for the SP. I dont think that CBJ and BBBJ is the main difference today. I think it is something else. Today, an SP will talk and cuddle and be an individual; that non-sexual rapporting tends to enhance the overall experience these days. 20 years ago, that sort of rapport was rare. Things were quicker and more business-like. If you wanted modern options back then, you did it the hard way and not with an SP --- bar, wink, buy drink, flirt, dance, yap, FK, her place or my place, "fuck and duck" --- with no guarantee of ever getting past FK. That is all a long way of saying that I prefer BBBJ over CBJ but can be made quite happy by a CBJ if done the right way and is accompanied by more individualizing soft touches of intimate small chat, tender caresses, and light whispers in my ear. So, SPs, put industry standard on the agenda at the next union meeting. CBJ or BBBJ: both can be satisfying. But if the industry standard changes and we go back to the old ways of clock-watching, "much longer baby?", and patting my back like I am a dog, then I will considering expending my hobby efforts on a Fleshlight.

30. The Outcall at your home You have done it!!! You will no longer have to be master of your domain. Put that Kleenex box away. Today's the day you have finally saved for... you are going to meet Alotta Fagina and her new duo partner, Anita Dickens-Hyde (that's right, say it slowly...I'm a dirty freakin' genius!), at your swinging bachelor pad. Best behaviour!!! Now. Eeeeeeek. Look at this place. Ummmm. Ewwwwww. What is that smell??? Gonna need to do some laundry. Yup. Your method of saving on laundry costs by wearing t-shirts and underwear for 4 days has a price (inside out, outside in, backwards and forwards... doesn't everyone do this???) Your place kinda smells like... ummmm... how do we put it politely???? Poo. Sweat. and dead animals. Charming. A fire... you could set the place on fire. No. Bad idea. How about you clean it??? You know those dusty bottles that your sister gave you 8 years ago when you got the place??? Use those. The bedroom. It's not so bad. Okay. It looks like the bedroom of an 8 year old. The He-Man and the Masters of the Universe comforter set is quaint and charming BUT not so much on the sexy debonair suave side. You good sir are going to have to put some big boy clothes on and do some shopping. No. Chicks don't dig Transformers. You can't use that comforter set either. You know the colour of the paint on the walls?? Ask someone at the store to show you something without animated characters and sorta matches the decor. No. You can't buy the Gi Joe sheet set. No. Don't make me hit you. While you are out... did you think of refreshments?? I know that you like chocolate milk and cherry Koolaid mixed together, but it's not everyone's taste. Try something ummmm kinda grown up. Wine maybe? For GODS sake don't pick the wine in the Transformers bottle. Yes, I know it's "neat." That bottle over there - see it? Yes, that one in the clear green glass bottle. I know you don't know anything about wine. Yes, I know you don't own a corkscrew. Okay. Just pick up a bottle of white and a bottle of red with twist tops. And over there... see that section over there that says coolers? Pick up a 4 pack that is kinda girly. I have no idea what they like. Okay. I know you don't either. Jeebus. You see the pink ones? Pick those up. Oh and pick up those wine glasses over there. I know you probably won't use them again. But the LADIES might. Let's go to the grocery store now. I know you are excited. Settle down. No, you are too big to ride in the cart. I am only helping you. You need to push it yourself. Awww, don't pout. Are those, tears???? Okay you can ride in the cart. I will help you. See this?? This is bottled water. I know it's cheaper from the tap. I know you want to show the ladies your limited edition Star Wars glasses from 1983. Trust me, we will go with the bottled water. Oh hey... look at that. It's cheese and it doesn't come in a can!!! Let's do some of that. You don't have plates? Okay. Let's go to the deli... they have a cheese and crackers platter at a reasonable price. What do you mean you don't have napkins. Ohhhh... you use Cottonelle for everything. Not today. No sir, not today. I am guessing you don't have candles. Oh you do??? Lord of the Rings Hobbit Candles. Charming. Nothing sorta plain?? Okay let's forget the candles, the less they see of your place the better. Gents... when you invite a provider to your home treat them with the respect they deserve. Clean. Yup. Clean. The bathroom, the bedroom, the living room and the kitchen. If you provide refreshments do so from a SEALED bottle opened in their presence. Make an effort. You make THEM bacon sandwiches!!! They are your guests! 31. Great Expectations It's happened to all of us on BOTH sides of the equation. You have been speaking for weeks, have exchanged PMs, texts, calls... and today is the day that you are finally going to meet. The door opens... and meh. It's certainly not unique to this world, it happens on dating sites all over. It's happened at high school reunions. It happens everywhere. You have envisioned a mix of Megan Fox/Angelina Jolie/Sasha Grey and are met with ummmmm... not that. You are disappointed. You have built up the moment in your head, the dream date with Megangelisha... and are met with a pretty woman that isn't her. What to do? Step back. Take a moment. Take stock. You aren't Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum or Shemar Moore. You are just a guy. She is a pretty girl. Give your head a shake. She is going to touch your wiener. She is a pretty wiener touching girl. Not only that, she is the pretty wiener touching girl that has an amazing personality. She is a charming pretty wiener touching girl that smells really good. She is an aromatic charming pretty wiener touching girl wearing a beautiful negligee cut so low that you see her amazing boobies. She is an aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has just invited your into her home. She is a welcoming aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has just planted the most amazing kiss on your lips. She is a kissable welcoming aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has changed your opinion. No longer meh. She's HAWT. She isn't Megangelisha but then again you aren't Brachanmar. That's a good thing too, cuz neither of your fake names is frickin' pronounceable. What you are is.... together, at her place, at the appointed time, with the correct amount of money, with a couple of hours open, with a bottle of wine and possessing some degree of chemistry. A light goes on in your head. This is good. This is really good. Of course then she kills you. You knocked on the wrong door. Had you followed the directions she gave you, you would have been alive BUT OHHHH NO.... you had to be the guy who doesn't need directions. Serves you right to be dead. You knocked on the door of the notorious negligee nympho killer. She's probably desecrating your corpse right now.... No, I'm just messing with ya. She didn't kill you. If she did, you wouldn't be reading this. You had a really good time. She rocked your world. Your wiener is kinda sore, but in a good way. You learned a valuable lesson. Don't dismiss something that could be great. You built the rapport, follow through. Read the directions to her place. Don't knock on the wrong door. Beware of nearly nude nymphos with knives. If she is playing the theme from Psycho, run. Don't go swimming until an hour after you have eaten. Don't stick forks in live electrical outlets. If you can't pronounce it, don't eat it. It's amazing being me. Bwahahahahahah

This is posed to both providers and hobbyists .... Do you prefer to cuddle and chit chat after the big "O" or get up and go?

I love to kiss and cuddle to start and also at the end. sometimes it's the best part when you are with someone you've been before. and can relax and talk comfortably with each other.

love love love cuddling!

Fresh (right off the boat) tuna and swordfish (one of the beauties of living in NL and being connected) for the grill tomorrow. Paired with the right wine it's gonna be awesome!

Well now if its an attraction to a man the first thing that strikes me is the eyes,the soul of the person the rest can follow,if it is a woman I am attracted to its the curves ,its that handful of hip to hold and carress.

Hot, fiery, brunette, brown-eyed, Eastern European spinners, 30-40, with drizzling sexy accents, high heels, tight skirts, hot legs and nice bums. In one word: Romanian. Hard on the heart though. Any other brunette with an accent will do: Quebecois, Spanish, Thai, etc; and should I ever settle down again, Filipina!

At first sight, I'm all about CURVES! I love me some cushin' for the pushin! I can be attracted to women of all shapes/sizes/colors (hair or skin), but what stops me in my tracks is a woman with a few extra lbs in all the right places! That said, nothing beats a woman who laughs at my cheesy jokes and makes me laugh with hers, regardless of looks. Posted via Mobile Device

Rebecca, you're awesome and I had a great time with you. Keep on doing what you're doing and don't worry about it because I thought you were fantastic. You give such a warm and comfortable experience, I don't know why anyone would want to reduce it to some small subset of what you have to offer.

Dear Mod, I would have to disagree with your assessment of the situation. I have followed my BBFS thread and Peachys BBBJ thread from start to finish and don't see where it is becoming out of control ... long in the tooth maybe (lol) but nasty??? Yes there as been some asinine comments about our lovely ladies reducing their rates to compensate for no BBBj service and I can see how they would take offence to such comments. Some might even have taken a harsher than normal tone to express this but never out of control IMO. For a newbie like me I found the discussions, for the most part, to be very informative, healthy and helpful. It also seemed to be a very passionate subject for most ladies on this site and I think (I might be wrong here?) seemed to help liberate some pent up frustrations on certain aspects of their work. To echo another posters opinion on the direction the discussions were heading: "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!". Nobody forces anybody on here to join or read specific threads. That's my 2 cents!

I wish I could have a good reason for "Zealous4U" but the truth is when I was re-registering to be a CERB member I took about 30 seconds to think of the name when really, it deserved more consideration. I and those that know me consider me to be passionate, hence the Zealous, and those that know me say I am sensitives to others, hence the 4U. I wish I gave it more thought because lets face it "Zealous4U" is kinda lame (you won't hurt my feelings if you agree). I say I was re-registering because i was previously on CERB as "Lefty32" a baseball reference to a famous left handed pitcher who wore #32. Not surprisingly the 32 was often mistook as a age reference. The truth is it has been decades since I was 32, and on the other side, be assured I was born a number of years later than 1932(lol). So. given my history of lame names I think I need a rename but will not rush into it: Here are a couple I am thinking of along with the reasoning: - Mr Carlson (reference to a character in a very good TV comedy "WKRP in Cincinnati" and there is perhaps a physical resemblance" - Linedrive - Baseball reference - 'doubleplay - again a baseball reference and perhaps hobbying I will appreciate any comments. PM if you wish!

I would like to nominate Exotic Touch Danielle! Danielle is a very sweet, genuine and naturally sexy lady. I truly cherish our friendship in our work and private life. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=17404

I would like to nominate Catherina, otherwise known as FineWineDiva for Goddess of the Day. She is smart, sassy, sexy and a real sweetheart. Oh, and has the most amazing boobies....

What I took issue with was the incredibly homophobic, sex-negative, and whorephobic approach you took in your post. To recap: I would love to see your stats on this "guess" of yours. Stoya is a well-spoken porn actor who speaks to this subject quite frequently: http://stoya.tumblr.com/post/32205235912/testing-vs-condoms-in-pornography Emphasis mine. Racism, homophobia, and assumptions of drug use. Awesome. Again, I would love to see your proof to these claims. What on earth is a "meat and potatoes" std? Again with the homophobia. You know that people who have sex with other people of the opposite sex engage in anal sex as well? It's not a "gay thing". Again with the assumptions. Did you know that STIs are on the rise in the senior population, and they have theorized that it is because these individuals who are now finding themselves widowed and are engaging in new sexual relationships were not raised in a culture that promoted condom use and safer sex? Another assumption. Sorry, what? Again: source please. Actually, the transmission rate is about the same for oral sex on a person with a vagina, whether they are on their menses or not (it is considered a low-risk activity regardless of menses). Source: cdnaids.ca Someone's sexual identity does not put them more or less at risk of contracting an STI, it is the sexual activities they engage in and if they use safer sex practices.

Unfortunately, BBBJ's are just as scary and equally unsafe if STD contraction and transmission is a concern...Russian Roulette is being played on a daily basis...and the viruses are spread just as quickly orally, if not faster once infected...so please think about playing completely safe, not just halfway.... http://std.about.com/od/riskfactorsforstds/a/oralsexsafesex.htm

I have only been BB with one lady. She was my wife. We where together for 10 years and this April it would have made 11 years. She decided to start dating some guy while we where still married and I found out in October that she was with him from February of 2012. After I found out I went and got checked it was the worst feeling to know that she cheated on me and with all these other STD's around I wasn't sure. I would not wish that feeling on anyone. Yes, I am clean and I always have condoms with me when going out. You never know what luck you may have. I have had enough bad luck to last me a life time. The last thing I want/need is to catch something that I know can and will destroy my life. If you're not going to sack it, go home and whack it.

So we have a few people complaining about a new feature I added to encourage more user participation (and it's working!) New members (under 5 posts for less then 5 days) now get a notice (See below) that they should post and change the status (basically from a lurker who is using the site for research and not contributing to a contributing member). The notice will disappear once they post 5 posts and have been a member for 5+ days. The site is FREE to use and they are complaining!? Seriously!! I have actually had TWO members (Long time members) complain in PM's and the one had been a member for 200+ days and the other (get this) has been a member for over 2000 days and is pissed that he now gets this notice? WTF??? If you have been here 200+ or 2000+ days and used the site for info on SP's and not given back at least 5 comments for the rest of the community?? Why do these guys feel this is ok? should we really be concerned? Here is the notice: Yes, it's long (It's long for a reason!) it's made to be informative to NEW MEMBERS and it's long to be a NAG so that you give back to the community!! No excuse is valid for not contributing. Put your browser into PRIVACY MODE (as you should be doing already) and make sure your username is not something your co-workers or anyone else might pick up on and post some comments!! Don't be a troll/leach and expect everyone else to share for your benefit when you don't contribute.

Any person asking for or offering BBFS is insane and is a threat to us all. Blacklist them. :vf: As a hobbyist, I am really glad to see our SPs here come out so overwhelmingly against the stupid idea. :ThankYou:

To the OP: no, you are not overreacting. This is as every bit as dangerous and buttfuck-stupid as it sounds. Fortunately, most of the SPs around here are not stupid, and anyone even hinting at BBFS will probably get instantly blacklisted. And to the guys asking for BBFS, should any of them be reading... I don't mind you killing yourselves (I consider Natural Selection and the continuous improvement of the species thereby to be a good thing), but I'd be grateful if you'd refrain from trying to kill other people too. Please and thanks.

25. The Incall. You finally get your greatest wish. Today's the day you are seeing Alotta Fagina. Sweet Jeebus. You have abstained from fondling your manly bits for 26 hours in anticipation of this glorious event, beating your old record by ... umm... pretty much 26 hours. Man you love your wiener. You have followed all posted rules and etiquette. You booked your appointment by her preferred method of contact, you have the envelope containing the exact amount for your encounter, you have groomed yourself, you smell good, you feel healthy... heck you even went to Alotta's website and purchased a gift card for her from her favourite vendor, Magical Walid's House of Middle Eastern Cheese. You are soooooo good to go. You arrive at the destination five minutes before your appointment and knock on her door at precisely 2:00 pm. You sir, are a rock star. You enter her home. You are now stepping foot into Villa Fagina. It's beautiful. Tastefully decorated, the house is a testament to the woman that you have lusted after since joining CERB. Uh oh. Nerves. You know what happens when the nerves hit. Pee pee. You must make a pee pee. Maintaining your suave demeanour, you saunter over to Alotta and say in your sexiest voice, "Alotta, my glamourous minx, purveyor of pleasures of the flesh, my near naked nymph. I gotta pee. Where's the potty?" Alotta directs you to your destination. You enter the bathroom and come face to face with your personal demon. Her medicine cabinet. What to do. I KNEW I should have read that whole thread. If I open her cabinet, will I be struck down with penis cooties??? Good GODS... what would Old Dog do??? Empowered by his love for the super friends, a spectral image of Old Dog appears straight from his crystal cavern in the depths of downtown Ottawa: You hear an awesomely wicked voice saying, "Open that cabinet and I will give you penis cooties. Use your head. Be a happy hobbyist. Respect her privacy. Oh... and remember to wash your hands really well and put that seat back down after you flush." It's not rocket science. You are at her place of business for a very good reason. That reason is not to invade her privacy - follow her to her boudoir and be happy. Alotta Fagina has given you access to her sensuality, not her stuff. 26. Serial Texting You want to see her. She is soooooooooooooOOOOOoooOOOOOOOoooOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOoOOOOOOooooo freakin' HAWT. You have everything prepared. You think, "I'm gonna get laid tonight, I'm gonna get laid tonight." You do a happy dance. It's a little disconcerting. Even to you. You stop and vow never to repeat the "anticipating getting laid" dance again. You see she accepts texts. So that's what you do. You: Hey BB (1:39 pm) Her: Oh, hi. (1:41 pm) You: Hey BB (1:42 pm) Her: Oh, Hi again. (1:44 pm) You: Hey BB (1:45 pm) Her: Ummm, Hi again, again. (1:49 pm) You: Hey BB, yer pretty. (1:50 pm) Her: Ummm thanks. (1:55 pm) You: Yer pretty. I have a boner. (1:56 pm) Her: Ummmmm, that's nice. Is there a point you are trying to make. (2:10 pm) You: Yer pretty, I still have a boner. (2:11 pm) Her: Okay. It's nice that that happens for you. Do I know you? (2:42 pm) You: Hey BB. My boner is still there. You have nice boobs. (2:43 pm) Her: I do have nice boobs. Thank you. (3:20 pm) You: I lost my boner but got another one. I like your boobs alot. (3:21 pm) Her: That's really, umm, nice of you to say. You know "alot" is actually two words. Was there something that you needed to ask? (4:12 pm) You: I lost my second boner but got another one again. Yer HAWT. You have a great ass. (4:13 pm) Her: Oh thanks again. Will you please stop sending me texts? (5:22 pm) You: I have my fourth boner. (5:23 pm) You: Why won't you ANSWER me? (5:28 pm) You: You are a boner killer. Wait. It's okay. Number 5 just happened. Please answer. (5:33 pm) You: Hey BB (5:38 pm) You: Hey BB (5:43 pm) You: Hey BB (5:51 pm) You: Hey BB, my boner feels weird. (5:53 pm) You: Hey BB, my boner just collapsed in on itself. (5:56 pm) You: Hey BB, the cat just ate my boner. (5:58 pm) You: Bitch, you ruined my life. (6:01 pm) You: On the upside, I have a mangina now. I am going to steal all your business. (6:02 pm) You: On the downside, my mangina is not feeling that great. I hate you. (6:03 pm) You: Answer ME! (6:04 pm) You: You used your super powers didn't you? (6:05 pm) You: My tummy feels weird. Did you give me some kind of virus? (6:06 pm) You: Dammit. All I want to do is listen the Celine Dion now. (6:07 pm) You: You did this. (6:08pm) You: I'm sorry (6:09 pm) You: This is my last text to you. (6:10 pm) You: No, this is my last text. (6:11 pm) You: :( There we have it. Serial texters get penis cooties and listen to Celine Dion. It's a true fact, as witnessed above.

They could actually be independent yet work out of a spa. I've known a couple who offered incalls by renting space at an mp and paying the management their standard room fee. I kind of assume if the individual is posting ads for herself, that is still a level of independence, versus the business posting ads for their spa. It still gives you the client the opportunity to deal directly with the MA. I would assume she would be up front about her incall arrangements knowing she isn't offering a private location?

I see no reason to do that at all. The fact that you wouldn't visit a MP doesn't mean this holds for everyone else here. Why shouldn't everyone rub along together?