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I don't think total honesty is really required in this hobby/biz. After seeing some SP's several times sometimes personal stuff will come out after trust has been established....I think that's normal, and perfectly acceptable.....depending on the client and the level of mutual trust that has been built It's happened to me a couple occasions that SP's have voluntarily divulged very personal information to me after a trust has been established, and that's perfectly ok.....actually it's kind of flattering to be trusted that much by an SP. And it ads to the intimacy. But it's not a requirement to a good session. Long story short, total honesty isn't bad per se......but for me personally, it's not necessary. If a lady wants to open up to me I'll be more than happy to hear her out...but it's not something I expect. And depending on the client, being too honest may in fact be a bad thing and could even be potentially dangerous. As for the amount of honesty you want to divulge on cerb, I don't think anything I read could possibly turn me off, unless like Brad says, it reveals the person to be a total schmuck lol. But Emily J raises a very good point that pretty much anybody with an internet connection can read what's on here. Something to consider. Like Cleo said, everything we initially need to know is included in the ads and recommendations, the rest we can find out when we meet her....and by the rest I mean the lady's personality, intelligence, and sexual preferences. At the end of the day that is really all we need to know about her.

Don't be fooled by men who threaten to "crucify" an SP by writing negative reviews. You don't need reviews to survive in this world. Provide honest service and they'll come back, reviews or not.

I think you need to be yourself in order to succeed in this business - but that doesn't need people need to know everything about me. The 'Cleo Catra' I project is an honest portrayal of me - she's a part of me. BUT, that's not my name...and I don't tell everyone everything about me. That would be too much like dating, and I'm NOT dating my clients. My clients know as much about me as they need to know to decide if they want to see me. Once they see me, they learn more, and decide if they'd like to come back. In every encounter, we learn more about each other...what sexual buttons to push, how to draw that orgasm out, how to tease, excite, play. And in the process, we talk and learn details about each other on a personal level, which heightens the intimacy of our time together. And I love that. However, if I had a fight with my best friend right before a client shows up, I'm not going to tell him the details of that fight. I might say 'You know girls, ugh! Always silly fights', then move on to our session. If I have giant bills looming and I'm stressed about money, I'm not going to go into details of how I didn't manage my finances well this month, but might say 'Budgets dont' always work!', then move on to our session. Etc. The man is coming to me for his own escape from reality, his own fantasy, his own sexual desire. For all I know, his wife may have broken down that morning because SHE had a fight with her best friend, so he's coming to me to escape - so the last thing I want to do is lay on the details of my own personal drama. I like being part of a fantasy, of having this world where I lay my personal dramas aside for an hour or two, and escape to this sexual, sensual world between the sheets.

Admittedly, I could lose 20-25 lbs for health reasons even though I'm considered healthy but the way I am built, I will never be stick skinny and I've come to accept that. I hit 110 lbs one time and my face looked sickly and gaunt and was told I looked like a 12 year old elf. I'm the only one in my family with boobs, ass, an hourglass figure and am proud of it. I don't listen to haters or those assholes on other sites who tell me I'm too fat. I really couldn't give a flying fuck. I'm an attractive woman and my track record in this business speaks for itself with my long list of regulars and new clients. Self acceptance is one of the greatest freedoms I have ever experienced!

How have I stayed out of this thread so long....I LOVE boobies!!!

I always say....''different strocks for different folks'' thats why there is a place for each and everyone of us! older, younger, thin, curvy, muscular....gents can have their pick ;) Feeling good in your own skin makes you beautiful :)

I wanted to take a few moments to thank not only the gentlemen but the entire Cerb community for one of the best changes I've seen since my return to the hobby ( had been gone since 2008 )... During the pre-chatroom era ( circa 2005-2008 ) I was often chastised for being an SP who wasn't a size 0. I'm a size 12. You know who else was a size 12? Marilyn. I don't need to write out her last name, you know damn well who I am talking about. Over the last few months, I can see that the diversity of cerbites has increased greatly, which shows in cases like preferable women's sizes no longer being a biased, one-sided affair. Even if women my size are not your cup of tea, the respect shown concerning "to each their own" is staggeringly exceeding my expectations. Thank you cerbites for believing in "all women are beautiful in their own way" !!! An especially BIG thanks to the mods also, as this chastisement was allowed to take place on "the other board" which is the main reason for my switch to this one only :) I love your no tolerance for BS! ________________________________________________ FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 1. Marilyn Monroe's body measurements: Height: 5'5 Weight: 118-140 lbs Bust: 35-37 inches Waist: 22-23 inches Hips: 35-36 inches Bra size: 36D 2. Dove's "REAL BEAUTY" campaign: http://www.dove.ca/en/Social-Mission/About-the-Movement.aspx 3. Definition beau·ti·ful adj. a) Having qualities that delight the senses, especially the sense of sight. b) Excellent; wonderful. beauti·ful·ly adv. beauti·ful·ness n. Synonyms: beautiful, lovely, pretty, handsome, comely, fair All these adjectives apply to what excites aesthetic admiration. Beautiful is most comprehensive: a beautiful child; a beautiful painting; a beautiful mathematical proof. Lovely applies to what inspires emotion rather than intellectual appreciation: "They were lovely, your eyes" (George Seferis). What is pretty is beautiful in a delicate or graceful way: a pretty face; a pretty song; a pretty room. Handsome stresses poise and dignity of form and proportion: a very large, handsome paneled library. "She is very pretty, but not so extraordinarily handsome" (William Makepeace Thackeray). Comely suggests wholesome physical attractiveness: "Mrs. Hurd is a large woman with a big, comely, simple face" (Ernest Hemingway). Fair emphasizes freshness or purity: "In the highlands, in the country places,/Where the old plain men have rosy faces,/And the young fair maidens/Quiet eyes" (Robert Louis Stevenson). 4. Most importantly: BEAUTY LIES WITHIN THEY EYE OF THE BEHOLDER

Just trying something out here, to see how it goes. The winner will face off against a new contender the next day. Open of course to anyone to post a new contest on the thread. I'll start us off. Girl One: Girl Two:

To clarify my earlier comment, when I refer to honesty I suppose the more accurate way of framing it is that I appreciate someone being genuine and real.... To a degree. I don't need or want to know your real name initially. If a level of trust is reached then I would be flattered but its not important. Your name, birth date or any other personally identifiable information is rightly yours and none of my business. The honesty pertains to who you are as a person. I'm attracted to a person as a whole, not just a set of attributes or menu items. Chemistry is important and true chemistry requires a level of authenticity and human connection, at least that is my opinion. Genuine, authentic and honest. Let me know who you are as a person. What you like. How you think. What you believe. Just don't tell me everything and certainly not right away

If you are new to this hobby NEVER see ladies in your home unless they have stellar reputations backed up by recommenadations from guys that you trust. Seeing a lady you know nothing about in your home has disaster potential especially if something goes sideways. As for the extra charge, that is normal if it is an SP that also maintains an incall. If the SP has an incall to maintain, then coming to you costs her extra money in transportation cost, especially if she has a driver. As well if she comes to see you that takes extra time away from her "office" so even though you are only paying her for 1 hour if it takes her 30 minutes to get to you and then home, you are actually tying her up for 2 hours. SP's that don't maintain an incall likely shouldn't charge more on top of their normal rate as they don't have the monthly overhead associated with an incall and the transportation, driver, etc. is jsut part of her costs of doing business. Cheers

From what I have read from the many recommendations and of course from the advertisements, Emily J is certainly one to check out although I haven't yet had the pleasure of doing so myself. Some of my favourites include (in terms of the quality of the bj) although not all may offer CIM (have to check with the SP) Cleo Catra (amazing!) Nicolette Vaughn Sexxy Rebecca

Honesty is generally appreciated. Getting to know someone on a personal level is pretty important to deepen my attraction. Intelligence, humour, kindness are just some of the very attractive qualities that can be revealed to heighten a connection. Drama and negativity should not be shared and are certainly turnoffs.

I think Phaedrus used the phrase 'edited highlights' when describing what he revealed about himself on CERB. That is, of course, what we all do. I believe it is what we do every day in all of our dealings with other people too. I suppose that I might slightly emphasize or play down certain aspects of my personality with one group and then do the same for other aspects with other groups. I am not ever false, but society needs some sort of lubrication to work and I see courtesy and friendliness as that lubricant. It's only when you deal with real a**holes that the whole machine seizes up and breaks down. I consciously try to remain my unaffected self as much as possible when I deal with everyone, including SPs. It is too much trouble to do otherwise and can lead to too many problems if you don't. Speaking of lubricant . . . Oh, wrong thread.

I feel that there is a core of information that we share about ourselves. Both online and with our clients. Yes, I give truthful information about where I grew up, where I have lived, where my home base is. Also some information about my personal life. However, there is some information I will not divulge except to those that I have seen for a long time and I feel I can trust them. I had a longtime client that asked me for my real name. Something was off, and I told him my "other" working name. Sure enough, he contacted me once and called me by my "other name", which really creeped me out. What would have happened if I gave him my real name? Of course, that ended our relationship as I felt he had overstepped my boundaries. Maybe I overreacted, but I felt that he had taken something I told him in confidence and abused it. So, yes, honesty is very important, but you still have to protect yourself and be aware of what information you divulge and to who.

Just for the record, everything on CERB is now open to everyone, which includes all non-members. You do not need an account to see anything here. :) Account is only necessary to post. Profiles and albums can be hidden by users themselves, but all threads and posts are visible to everyone with an internet connection.

My preference is the VIP location and the west end on Carling.

I don't believe in brutal honesty. That involves numerous things I try to stay away from and I agree people can be rude and hurtful under the guise of "helping" or "being honest". I also believe that non full disclosure is not dishonesty as no one has the right to your information if it does not impact them in any way, shape or form. I think we have perhaps taken a rather sad turn here....

Thanks for the thread. I'm a size 16 and 5'11", 190 lbs.. so I'm not a small girl either.. but I love my curves and so do my friends and fans :) You go girl!

Actually douche bag and sex offender Remember, any unwanted sexual contact is a sexual assault. Seeing a professional companion doesn't give a guy carte blanche approval to do any sexual activity he wants, the lady's boundaries must be respected RG

ok wbats the deal with this cl crap, seems to me its far too dangerous to book from there when there's cerb available for good info, so thise of you who post there stjck to cerb and bp your recos are better than the perceptions of that garbage site with all the scammers.

You know what they say about Gemini's... We have double personalities I have my sweet GFE side and then I have my naughty PSE side! Hey Guys and Gals, Have you had a long day? Need a relaxation massage? I can help you let go of all that you have built up inside. My name is Rose. I'm 21 years old, new to Ottawa and to the Industry. I'm available everyday this week at Vibe Spa... A brand new beautiful spa in the East end, with a discreet look on the outside but a homey feeling on the inside. I provide a sensual unrushed GFE or PSE massage. I look forward to welcoming you at the door, escorting you into our private getaway where I will peel every inch of clothing off you. After we are both finished admiring each others naked bodies, we will slip into the shower and then the fun really begins. Come make me feel welcome to Ottawa, I look forward to making you feel welcome here at Vibe. This weeks schedule Monday 10-4 Tuesday 3-10 Thursday 3-10 Friday 10-4 Saturday 10-6 Pre-bookings are welcome Take a look at my recommendation: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...ight=rose+vibe Contact information: Email: [email protected] Call: 613-680-8059 (ask for Rose)

I see your point and the point that was made by numerous people about the "fantasy" aspect. I guess this is just one more way my perceptions differ from many. The fantasy IS my reality and vice versa. I don't need to lie to create because I feel it and believe it. That does ot mean I'm delusional or dishonest or that I live in some drug induced space, it's just who I am and the way I see things. For me, it's a gift, one that others sometimes have trouble wrapping their head around. I guess everyone needs what they need. Some need to be lied to, to create the fantasy. Some need to have connection, some just need some sexy lingerie and a smokin' body and they're all good. This is what makes us all unique and the world we live in interesting. Thankfully we have this place and this industry where it becomes much easier to find what we're looking for. Not only that but to have amazing discussions involving so many different views that end up supportive of all.

i have seen a few beautiful ladies from cerb all great but for me its SexxxyRebecca

LMFAO!! Intrigued.......?...I am ! Or maybe It's just my sick sense of humour :P My Schedule This Week:Exclusivly @ Angels Touch Today :- 10am-9pm Monday :- 10am-1pm Friday:-10am-3pm RECO'S http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...?ltr=R&t=82591 PIC'S http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=6979 erotic dance show and strip tease available

Thank you so much for letting me massage your wife!! I had such a great time and very happy she did too!! Looking forward to the couples massage next! XoXoXo to you both!! ;)

Honesty is always good. But everyone, SP's and clients alike, are entitled to have part of their life to keep to themselves. Not being 100% open isn't dishonest, but as long as what you share and who you chose to share it with is truthful and honest, and you are comfortable sharing it, that is good. For example, on this board I'm comfortable being known by my board handle. But ladies that I see I'm more comfortable revealing personal information such as real name (for screening/verification) And as the lady and I get to know one another through encounters, well in our conversations we both open up even more as our comfort levels allow. And in all cases I'm honest. And if a lady finds a gentleman who opens up with her, and a gentleman finds a lady who opens up with him, that means you have developed a special and trusting relationship (OMG the "R" word LOL). Respect the trust given to you, trust for most people isn't easily given, so be discrete, share with no one, and know that you have something more than a simple SP/Client relationship A late morning rambling RG

Welcome!

I follow the posts of the ladies I would like to see, just so I get a feel of their personality and intelleigence. I try to find out as much about them as possible. It is my time and I don't want to waste mine or the awesome ladies that put up with us guys and provide an awesome service! So, yeah..please be honest and be you. When I talk to you wether it be PM or a response to a thread, this is me, not a fake personality.

Myself I prefer that the person I'm with is honest it make a for a better time. When I say honest I mean they don't have to lie. For example if they enjoy something or not, doesn't it make it better if they are honest and tell you. If we start chatting I hope they are honest but hey I don't know I'm no mind reader. Being honest doesn't mean they have to disclose everything. If there uncomfortable or don't want to talk or do something just say so it won't hurt my feelings, I'm terrible at reading people so I prefer honesty. I can see thought some who prefer it the other way around. Like Cleo Catra said some client might not want to hear her problem, they just want to escape reality into their own fantasy. That totally in the hands of a provider, personal I would be more than happy to listen and offer my advice, but that just me. When it come to their ads I would hope what they say is honestly a reflection of themselves. Same goes for how the portray themselves but that a two way street, as a client I should be honest if the lady has questions for me. If a subject become to personal and feel like I don't want to talk about I'd just say it, what would be the point of lying.

Well... I'm assuming the original question was about interactions here and in other online venues... I think it's great if people give some kind of indication of what sort of a person they are. Often (not always, but often) when I choose to see someone that I haven't seen before it's on the basis of some form of prior interaction online, which has made me think that we'll get on well in person. It's not an exact science, but my hit rate isn't bad. And as Cat said, I consider it somewhat useful for a SP/MA I've never met before to have some sort of an idea what kind of a person I am before arranging to meet, or not. Having said that, this is very much an open forum. Much of it is completely open, and anyone who bothers to create an account can see most of the rest... and so I'd consider it wise for everyone to be at least somewhat cautious about what they reveal here, unless you're completely open about your CERB-related activities with pretty much everyone you meet. Like others, what I post here is... edited highlights, not the whole story.

Some ads for movies make you want to go see the movie, but when you do, the movie stinks! That's the way ads are!!

Agreed Phaedrus : It is not so much the device. It is the potential for misuse of the features and services offered. There are technologies coming on stream that could potentially do the same as these glasses only on the surface of a contact lens. Here's an article from 2009 detailing the technology and procedures of possible manufacture of internet-enabled contact lenses. -the article is quite technical and parts, however well worth the read. http://spectrum.ieee.org/biomedical/bionics/augmented-reality-in-a-contact-lens Earlier today I was shocked when a friend of mine, without considering the ramifications, turned on all of the advanced video features on their new smart phone. Instant uploads to Face Book etc. They were hooked on the new technology very quickly. This is an adult not a child, and admittedly most of us including myself to find the incredible ease of use very alluring. But it is very important to consider the impact this has on everyone. No action is truly isolated. PatrickGC

Well, I'm late. Again :) Hope you had a fantastic time, Carrie... sounds like you did!

I respectfully beg to differ Mr Green, at least on some of your point. yes there are many made up names and persona's and players using fake pictures. This does not mean most of the people fall into this category. Everyone has their own reasons for either putting themselves out there or keeping some things quiet but that doesn't mean what they say or what they put out there isn't honest or sharing some of themselves. This is why CERB is so great because it gives everyone the opportunity to discuss, positive and negative. The reco's are the positive, info on scam', fake pics, bait and switches and people willing to share info helps people avoid those not so honest types. I for one use my own name when i talk to people and what I share is truthful. It takes way too much time and energy to be fake and dishonest and it creates bad energy so I don't do it, it's not me. I hope you find some better people than those you have apparently run into, you're definitely in a good place for that! *muah*

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Remember your first day at work? You weren't sure what to wear, how to act, what the people you were going to meet would be like, whether you knew anything? Was it going to be a fun place to work? Would you want to come back for another day? Would your customers like you? Well yesterday was Megan's first day and she hit it out the park! There was not even a chance for her to use the famous "It's my first day" excuse, one of the best parts about having a first day on the job....she knew the subject matter like she's been reading the manual and taking the training for years. We got to know each other in chat and decided to meet up once she punched the clock and started her newfound life as a working girl. We met up at her swanky office space downtown (complete with bed!), where she was both the receptionist and the chair of our meeting. And wow, if there was ever a receptionist you wanted to fuck, she was it. She was dressed business casual for a friday, tight form-fitting dress, nice heels and mondo cleavage, just the way most guys adore (or imagine) their business woman. We exchanged more than the traditonal handshakes once the door closed and needless to say, the do not disturb sign hung on the door and no phone calls were to be taken. Some small talk to begin as most meetings do, but we quickly buckled (i mean unbuckled) down and got to the dirty work. She is tremendously sexy with smoldering eyes, beautiful long raven hair and a lovely dark complexion. The beauty doesnt stop upstairs in the executive suite though. As you make your way down to the lobby, with the 2 beautiful (and large) orbs to mesmerize you, then on your way to the basement and the male room where packages are oh so happy to be delivered. She is an architectural dream from head to toe. Smooth exterior and blazing hot interior. Wow, even Frank Lloyd Wright would have put down his T-square to visit with Megan. Lots of heavy petting until it was time for the business attire to be sent out for cleaning, leaving us with only our birthday suits and plenty of supplies on hand to keep our meeting going. The equipment was put to good use byu both of us and we had no issues whatsoever handling each other's equipment. In fact, Megan did a great job using her lips to get mine warmed up. All metaphors aside, this girl is a total knockout and with her dancer background, has moves that are unrivalled. She knows how to get a guy revved up and definitely fulfilled a personal goal of mine to see how great a dancer can be if she crossed the line into escorting. She was great at both giving and receiving, two hallmarks of what her new profession entails. The main event was truly the highlight of our visit. Megan has a tremendous petite yet curvy body with full, spectacular breasts. i could have held onto her beautiful bum and watched those assets bounce all day long but there's no way i could have lasted. she definitely brought out the best in me and we collapsed together in giant heap on the expansive bed. we curled up and chatted together for awhile, about why she got into this line of work. clearly her #1 motivation is that she loves sex, which is the perfect reason to start a career that gives her (and her clients) so much pleasure. without question, a stellar first day for megan and yes, she might be cute as a button, but also hot as a firecracker and above all else a talented artist in the bedroom (or the champagne room!). i will definitely be giving her a visit not only at Barb's but also in her "home office", where she provides the greatest in hospitality and leaves every meeting attendee with an exhausted grin from ear to ear. all the best in the hobby, megan, keep winning those employee of the week awards! see you soon. xoxoxoxo

Denise Milani:

she good. i met her last week. plays safe, Ymmv, i got CBj,CFS,CIM, her incall was in south end of city, so to gents that live in the south are lucky :) have fun cheers

Find an established SP in the area that will act as a surrogate house mom. Every new provider should listen to the sage advice of someone that has been in the business for a while!

She was/is there this evening/tonight. Aso is Andrea, who I think is another favourite of yours :-) Additional Comments: Things were humming along there tonight, Friday evening. There seemed to be a few parties, with quite a few female customers, who were happy to tip on stage from time to time. And today is shooter girl Ashley's birthday, so she will no doubt keep the party going. As far new girls, I met a charming new girl tonight by name of Megan. Hasn't been dancing for that long, and said she was nervous going on stage, but she did a great job and looked terrific. Very curvy natural figure, tanned slightly exotic looks (I'd guess Portuguese if pushed - I didn't ask), and not too shabby on the pole tricks. Refreshingly open and genuine to talk to, and fun in the CR too. I look forward seeing her again. She's also a Cerb lurker, and with a bit of luck she'll register and pop up and say Hi!

Really? Why not just go where its offered. Why encourage these places to do suggestive advertising and reward them with your business? They do or they don't, this one doesn't. The one on Valour doesn't even do the massages herself, yets posts suggestive pictures of herself for advertising. Even when contacted she doesn't mention she does not do the massage. If you want to be teased and leave with a swollen sack, have at these places but they are what they are.

Kris makes an excellent point. I am amazed (maybe embarrassed is a better description) that there are so many guys that want to hit on the RMT's thinking that deep down inside, these girls MUST be itching to jerk a guy off for a change.. And as for guys that think they are going to find an RMT that will jerk them off and then process the billing thru their Blue Cross coverage?? OMG... Please, do us all a favor. Stop imagining that every RMT that advertises is going to miraculously provide you with a happy ending. These people are in this business as registered practitioners. This pisses off the RMT's, their Association, and the cops. Give it a rest, fellas...

Bare feet are incredibly sexy!!!

thanks cat. this post has lifted my spirits a little more. the site has grown so large that I really can't do it on my own and I have been pushing myself this last year to a breaking point. people are constantly complaining and everyone seams to feel they need to tell me how to do things. most people do not consider that they are just one person demanding my time with frivolous complaints, whining and my favorite... redundant bitching (when they just repeat themselves over and over than get pissed off when I tell them where to go or remove them) with the site growing so large we have 10 times more spammers (you rarely see these as I remove them before you ever see them... only a few get by recentlybecause some exploit exists that has not been patched yet that allows the spammers to circumvent the moderation queue) .. I would estimate 300+ spam posts are removed each month. title infractions.... we don't want the site to lookk like cl with all the crazy post titles trying to out do the next one and gain the most attention... so i have very specific rules to stop this and i use to take the time to pm each person and tell them what they did wrong... i found that even when i took the time people would ignore the pm and continue to break the rules so now i just delete the post and give them a infraction with a link to the rules.. I get people every day wasting my time asking me to elaborate on what they did wrong... did they read the link with the rules??? NO... They are just wasting my time. about 300 posts a month break this rule and more than 1/2 of them break the rule over and over again. This is disrespectful and these people do not deserve to use the site so I just keep deleting the ad posts and eventually just remove them. if they are literate enough to post an ad they can dam well read the rules or they are not welcome here. when I suspend someone (especially a SP or a male member with 50+ posts) i get people PM me (who only hear one side of the story) demanding I let them back or telling me I was wrong or calling me a dictator. These people run to the other sites and tell everyone how horrible I am (and really that did not bother me in the past but now its getting a little annoying).. FINALLY... we have those idiots who post shit like "I am affraid to post on cerb because I will get in trouble" or "I know the rule is... hopefully the mod does not remove me" or the really big idiots who want to fight with me on the site and don't think I have the balls to kick them off!! Yes, it wears on me!! Yes, I am done with it and yes I would not wish this job on anyone. Cat probably meant to post this in the PRIVATE area away from public view but we can let everyone know. I am done and I am working on a way to keep the site moving forward. We are looking for a way to have the community help moderate the site (Myself, the SP's who have SP ONLY access and the ELITE members have a private discussion thread where we are trying to come up with a solution that will keep the site moving forward and keep the integrity of the site alive. I have confidence in our members (Most of them) and I think a few should be removed who are trouble makers but I will leave that up to the people who will take my place as the decision makers. This is not open for public debate but if you are an elite member or a SP ONLY member you are welcome to comment in the private area and have your say. We would love to hear any idea's. If you are not able to see that area please DO NOT pm me. My PM is very busy and full with all this. I am willing to help the transition go forward smoothly (I am not walking away tomorrow or anything) I will continue forward and make sure the site is in good hands before I move on. I will probably always be part of the site in some sort of way (System admin, Server Admin, Software upgrades, etc... after all I am a computer guy and not a politian).