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Please add your name or nod to this thread as a show of strength for THE LIQUOR and as a force against that sob cancer that keeps invading his life. May all this positive energy help kick it out of his life for good!

Straw man argument, Loopie. The specific scenario of the 22 year old who is arrested for having sex with someone underage when they were lied to and had every reason to think the person was older--and had they known the truth they wouldn't have touched the person--is not what is being debated here. A lot of people would agree that enforcement of the law is flawed or at least problematic (assuming the older person can truly demonstrate they couldn't have known better). What most people are discussing, and I think you know this, is the issue of the older person who knows the other is not of the legal age of consent as it is currently defined. Where I--and I think some others--disagree with you is your assertion that: To my mind, once you cross the line of puberty, you are a sexual being capable of sexual desire and sexual functions and your sexuality should be yours to explore. Now, if all you mean is that these young people should have access to sex education (and not the unhelpful abstinence-only type advocated in so much of America but real education) that would be one thing. If you mean self-exploration, you likewise would have few people disagreeing with you (I doubt anyone here thinks young people should be ashamed of their bodies). Where I and others disagree is any suggestion that puberty alone is enough to warrant sexual exploration with others of any age. There is no practical test someone can write to demonstrate that they are mature enough for sex. If there was, no doubt some would pass it at an earlier age, just as others would likely go their whole life never making the grade! But the test doesn't exist. And let me emphasize, having reached puberty is not the test! Being physically capable of conceiving a child is no indication of emotional or mental readiness -- or indication that the person is ready to hop in the sack with someone twice their age who does likely know better. So all we as a society can do to protect people from predators is pick an age for consent that seems reasonable, based on what most people of a given age in our society have in terms of life experience and maturity. It may mean the occasional 15 year old who is just as mature and ready as most 19 year olds doesn't get to have a relationship with an older adult. But that is a fair trade off to ensure that the many more younger teenagers who would be taken advantage of by older adults are protected.

You make a criminal out of the 22 year old because if you don't, then you are also not making a criminal out of a 35 year old, or 45 year old or 55 year old. The girl is still 15. or 14, or apparently, 13, since according to the definition, only the 12 year olds are considered prepubescent and therefore off limits? See the difference? And yes, it doesn't matter how you spin it or how 'willing' the 15 year old is, there isn't enough life experience to make that informed consent. So you put the onus on the adult, the one over 5 years older than her, to be the one making the informed decision. From a female perspective, which is the assumption here, any interest in a 15 year old (as in a 15 year old who admits their age, not the 15 year old who tells the 22 year old she is 18 ) is predatory. On that note, as a 16 year old I was easily able to enter a licensed bar without ID check. As a 19 year old, I celebrated my 19th birthday in my favourite club, the one I'd been a regular at for over a year. I am not much of a drinker so it was about the dancing not the drinking lol. So i do forgive the 22 year old who is lied to , but if the 15 year old lies and says they are 18, I really don't forgive the 45 year old who pursues her.

Questions eh ? Welllllllllll Alllllllrighty then..... I got some dooozies What color are your brownies Mr T ? are they brown ? After 1 PM how long does it actually take you to get to the location ? What time does the bar open ? Where is the closest stable to book in my donkey for the night ? Am I gonna get hit by a car again when I cross the street after the social ? I am from the boonies. Due to there being 60 people are there lots of outhouses ? I pee Alotta when I drink Allotta ;) too much info there Will there be boobies there and if so am I allowed to look at them ? Not touch....LOOK ? If not do you supply sunglasses ? Been a loooong trip .... all I got left clean is my Mankini .... can I wear that ? Do you have Club beer there ? I hear it is always cold and old. and finally ..... Will you still allow me in the door ? ;) hehehe

Well..... unless there is a sticky note attached to the nipple saying ... "don't play with these tits" then IMO.....ALL BOOBS ARE BEST FOR PLAY :) Yay boobies !! Hip hip horray.

I'm voting for my own breasts...why? because they're big and heavy and have lovely hang with thick juicy nipples that are very sensitive and reactive and I love playing with them even if no one else does! lol *rawr*

:aggressif025: Fuck Cancer! :tresmauvaisehumeur: And not in a nice way! I hate hearing that a member of our community has to deal with cancer's shit! Stay strong, fight hard cause you're worth it. When you come out on the other side of this you can look back and say "I kicked Cancer's ass". :vf: I'm counting the days till I see your nominations for all the special CERB ladies.

Hey, Empty83 is right. His method of doubling or dividing in half is often a very quick way to have that pesky mis-posted entry jump of the page or computer screen particularly when you have a number of entries to go through. I'm not in Ottawa right now to help you in person but I'll offer any help I can via distance to help clear things up free of charge. Feel free to PM me if you like and I'll give you my email. Oh BTW...... I know that you mentioned trading services but I know there are lots of accounting tutors in Ottawa that will charge you MUCH less than your services are worth. You'll be better off to go that route IMO. Any tutor that's any good in a 1 on 1 session should be able to help you see things more clearly in 3 hours at maybe 40ish$ an hour.

Yeah, but the last line of Season 4 was Walt saying, "I won." You knew Breaking Bad would never leave the story there. Check back in after you've finished Season 5. ;)

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Both Brad and roaminguy have explained my comments well. I am not sure what point loopie is trying to make by focusing on my comment, when the focus of that is a younger man (22) being lied to by the 15 year old who claims to be 18, and he believed her. He is looking to be with someone 18, not someone who is 15 in other words, even being 18 might make him question if she is too young for him. I forgive him for believing the lie that she told him in order to convince him she is old enough to date him, that there isn't much of an age gap between them. But 18 isn't the right age for a 35 plus year old to consider as a suitable dating companion. This has nothing to do with the sp/client relationship and their relative ages, fwiw. Only dating, BF/GF situations, which I consider open to more of an exploitive situation. When you take the 18 year old (as in the legal age to work as an sp and the legal age to provide consent to working as an sp) out of this discussion you are left with the 17 and unders, btw. If someone think it is appropriate to take advantage of the desire that is growing in the developing bodies and sexuality of a teenager, then they have to assume that others are going to see them either as predatory or emotionally immature. What you see in a 15 year old is the ability to have a crush on someone older. This is why there are laws against dating them, in order to give them time to get beyond school girl crush immaturity which will develop into mature adult relationship ability. School girls don't usually have crushes on same age guys, so being BF/GF with a same age guy is entirely possible. When

Plot twist: she's being quiet because she recognized all the faces in the images -- she's been seeing the same escorts and is afraid you're on to her! - M. Night Shyamalan

The $100 tip, plus door fee is comparable to what most independent MA's or an all inclusive spa charge for a complete massage experience. I suggest clearing the financials up right away with your MA, just like you would with an independent or agency before you start the session. That way you just relax and enjoy without the worry. The attendant appreciates this as well so she knows she's being compensated fairly and everyone is happy. Independent MA's and all inclusive spa's apply part of the fee's collected to keeping the business maintained, so a door fee is really no different. It's just an extra transaction.

I have reviewed all the pictures I could find very carefully :) and I have been unable to find a single set that I didn't thoroughly enjoy and want to get to know better. ;)

this is a very sad discussion but in the end we will all prevail with our positivity don't worry Tom I am lighting a candle for you at church everytime I go and you're constantly in my prayers God and I are arguing right now but I think I might win so I will keep my fingers crossed lol you have so much support and with all of us and our positivity like I said we can kick this cancer's b*** Xoxo K

Luscious Tianna is sending all her prayers and optimism to the Number 1 Hobbyist The Liquir!!! It is always a great day when he comes in to say Hi!!! All the best Lover!! Always thinkin of you and missing you xxo

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Someone in favor of same-sex marriage is automatically gay or bi? Speaking for rights isn't always just about the one speaking.

Yup, last night's episode was possibly the best hour of television I've ever seen -- for writing, cinematography, and of course acting. In Walt's phone call toward the end of the episode, he has to say hateful things in Skyler's direction that are really intended for the audience he knows is listening in; the whole speech is designed to help position her as innocent, abused wife instead of accomplice. Those minutes should win Cranson the Emmy all by themselves. And Anna Gunn did a great job as Skyler on the other end, realizing what Walt is doing and playing along -- so hopefully she'll be around for what's left of their family, at least. It's true, the episode could almost have been the series finale. Walt's world has collapsed, everything he'd hoped for is destroyed, and he's completely on his own. He's paying the full price for his own crimes at last. I'm guessing the last two episodes are about two things: a) getting revenge on the Aryan guys and destroying the organization (including Lydia?), and b) bringing Walt's personal story and most probably his life to an end, hopefully with a bit of redemption while tying up Jesse's final fate. I usually agree with a lot of other people and prefer to wait 'til I can watch everything at once on disc. But this is one case where I'm happy to see these last hours bit by bit, week by week, reacting and discussing things with others as they happen. It's television I'll remember in 20 years, and how often can you say that?

Tonight I had the pleasure of meeting with Lucious Lacey and let me tell you that it was a very memorable experience that was amazing on so many levels. When I arrived, Lacey greeted me with a very nice and passionate DFK that seemed to last forever and I definitely didn't mind! We chatted for a bit and she proceeded to start spicing things up with a very arousing lap dance that ended with her giving me a nice BBBJ. Very intense. It was then my turn to return the favour and I began to indulge in DATY on her and I must say that she is extremely responsive to this and that further enhanced the overall pleasure. That's all I will add, as to not spoil the fun for the rest of you gents! The only negative thing I can say is that I wished our time never came to an end! I really can say that I was thoroughly happy and definitely plan to repeat!

I have seen Kiki on a number of occasions and each time just gets better. She is a great girl -- tall and beautiful, and ready to put you at ease -- at least until she causes you to tense up again. Perhaps a little shy at first, she does open up in an arousing and exciting way. I enjoy a nude reverse with her almost as much as getting massaged myself. She gets into it too and I know she enjoys our sessions together. Do yourself a favour and book a session with this fantastic lady. Treat her right and she will no doubt do the same for you. I just hope I don't incite too many of you to book -- as that may make it more difficult for me to get time with her in the future.

So this is my virgin post on CERB, I'm normally on a Montreal Board, but had lately more work around Ottawa and Gatineau. I met Claire some time ago, and I still have a lot of very vivid memory of our meeting and hope to be able to see her again before year end. Claire is every thing you wish for, she is playful and easy going, she loves to please. I am recommending that you see her at least once in your life. Thank you again Claire! WO

I really cant handle seeing someone I care about go through things with shedding a tear..... I was just about to stop reading these threads until I saw this one :) emiafish:'' :aggressif025: Fuck Cancer! :tresmauvaisehumeur: And not in a nice way! I hate hearing that a member of our community has to deal with cancer's shit! Stay strong, fight hard cause you're worth it. When you come out on the other side of this you can look back and say "I kicked Cancer's ass". :vf: I'm counting the days till I see your nominations for all the special CERB ladies.'' I totally agree, FUC# cancer in the face!!! All of our positive energy is here for you. Whenever you need a good ol' boost bby :) XOXO PS. the 'plastic black' says hello :)

Dear, The Liquor I will pray for you! Keep positive and strong. Keep pushing and get the beast out ! All my best wishes to you! You are a wonderful person xoxo Taylor Devine

We haven't had the pleasure of getting well acquainted yet. I gave seen you around the board always positive and cracking jokes. Sending positive and sexy thoughts.

Well my lovely Raven! I don't believe you are a pear or apple shaped lady. By the chart below and looking at your pictures you have hips, booty, defined waist and boobies. That would qualify you as having an hour glass shape, you don't have to be a certain weight to have an hour glass shape. Get your sexy on! Hugs, Lexy

As some of you now know the cancer doc's are putting me through another bunch of tests. It appears that the cancer did spread to the muscles surrounding the arm pit (isn't that just stinky) and probably to the pectoral muscle. More alarming is that they think there is a strong possibility that the lymph nodes are now involved, not cool. So more tests, probes, needles, probably chemo, probably surgery is in my future. I want to thank all the kind folks that have sent me heartfelt messages of encouragement, it is really appreciated. I will try and continue to play whenever I don't feel like a bag of hammers (thank heaven that my tongue is still in working order!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Once the prodding and poking starts, my days as a two handed masseuse will be limited (again, thank heaven my tongue is still in working order!!!!!!). Will continue to share this journey until the majority tell me to shut up. If I don't make it to the Ottawa Social, have a drink for me!!! Cheers and Thanx tom theliquor

O is for the Opening of your thighs as I slowly lick up a your legs to taste your sweet nectar the seeps from between your lovely rose petals. ;)

You are in my thoughts Liquor! Stay strong and you can fight this all the way! xoxoox

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@theliquor the golf season isn't over yet,lots of days to get out and play, and of course there is always the indoor play we both like ;) sending you best wishes!

Sending out positive healing angels and good wishes. Stay strong and fight the good fight!

Hi Empty:) I have herniated discs in my lower back and I tried everything when they first became painful over the years the only thing I've found that's helped me was acupuncture. The back specialist told me every person will find relief in different ways and to try everything until you find someone or something that can bring relief. Its said 80% of the population suffer with back issues. Best advice I can give is keep your abs strong, rest when it is really aching and try chiropractor or different massages, acupuncture and whatever gives you the most relief continue with. Always ask the Dr. or RMT you are visiting who takes over for them when they are on vacation so you are never left without treatment. All the best

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Things seem to be dry right now for in-call providers, so I am just putting my feelers out on the off chance there may be a wonderful lady visiting soon, who offers one or both of these :). Just send me a PM with any suggestions and/or news :)! My last experience with a lady offering erotic massage was so fantastic that I have a hunger for more, (Thank you Miss Sophia V!!!! I will be posting a reco for her soon. Ive just been super busy.) But I also really want to try a fantasy role-play too. Its something I have never done but I think would be really fun. (got close a couple times lol, then life happened.) Thank you for reading my post and any suggestions or news anyone may have :).

Great job Isabella, and thanks for being such a positive presence around here! :)

congrats IsabellaGia on 2000 posts. looking forward to reading many more.

Pug kisses!!!!

Depression? Seriously, depression is an illness, and it should be thought of like any illness. See your doctor and get a referral to someone who can treat it properly. You wouldn't tell someone to HTFU if they had a broken arm or cancer, but too many people have that exact attitude towards people suffering from depression.

I have just made my way into the CERB world. I am really excited to begin my new adventures and to get know yall. I am quite overwhelmed and trying to figure this site out. Please be nice to the new gal, you wont regret it. xxx Bella Clava

I recently re-watched Hot Fuzz and it's still one of my favorite movies of all time. It simultaneously spoofs the action movies I grew up loving while also having fun action scenes of its own and an unparalleled wit. It's on Netflix too so you have no excuse if you haven't seen it yet!

Hey, my dears, I've got these great socks from Sock Dreams that go all the way up to mid-thigh. I want more! Hope you like them as much as I do. ;-) . Tess.

Those are gorgeous.

Only shows up on a phone bill if it's long distance. Don't know what phone service you use but I've never had a call show up on my bill even before I went paperless. Most men use prepayed cell's for seeing sp only phones. I have to disagree about emails & texts. I stopped texts because 99% were wot's. Only prior clients are allowed to text for appointments as I know they are legit. Emails same thing too. Can get a long winded, tells their description right down to their shoe size & want an appointment for such & such a day & no confirmation call. Hmmm yup those two seem to be working well. Having a person call you get a sense of their personality as well they can get the same of us in return. How is a SP to know that the person emailing/texting is a man or even legal age. There's young teenagers out there that like to play games. Please don't start the debate on telling someone they are going to lose potential clients because she wants a phone call. If someone is a serious hobbyist they won't have a problem phoning to confirm & get incall location, something I don't think is proper giving out to someone you've never spoken to. If they don't want to call they are likely clients not worth seeing. My opinion though, maybe some other ladies will add to how they feel about a phone call & how important it is to them.

This is kind of a tough question to answer for the simple reason(s) that opinions are subjective and what SP's allow and don't allow is often related to comfort level, respect and familiarity amongst other things. In other things YMMV. This might be considered a bit of generic reply but you really should do your research and see who you are interested in. Start a conversation with her and politely inform her of your likes and see where it goes. Asking others for suggestions, although helpful, can sometimes be misleading as the services offered to one gent may vary from the next guy due to the above mentioned comfort level, etc. I realize this was probably not the answer you were hoping for as I imagine you would have preferred at least one name. All that said I honestly believe that the answer I provided you will give you the best results, in the long run anyway.

Well I am truly a possible 'poster boy' for this Sugar Kayne and appreciate the ask but will likely have a different take. I am almost exclusively a 'regular' to a woman I've met and we've both enjoyed our time. Does this make me 'preferred'? Well I actually don't really like that term. I certainly would never try and negotiate some deal or extras. Our meetings can evolve - but that is what it is. I would hope not because I passed a certain threshold. I expect nothing extra from being preferred or regular. From seeing a lady multiple times you do get to build a pretty good connection which with human nature has pretty good benefits. Chances are we're seeing each again because we want to - and that's good enough for me. Cub Posted via Mobile Device