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In theory, MOD's definition is warm and fuzzy and what it should be... BUT - (sorry MOD, I doubt you have been an MA) reality is totally different. I have been asked many times as of lately what GFE really means - sadly, some have totally ruined and misrepresented this term - implied and guaranteed DFK, DATY, being fingered, FS and basically everything BUT a relaxing sensual massage. Call me prudish but there has been a change in what is expected in the massage rooms of Ottawa over the last few years. CMJ defines GFE as a "genuinely fabulous experience, girl friend experience" Just like, in REAL life, you don't connect with everyone and wouldn't want just any pretty girl or handsome guy to be your girlfriend/boyfriend. Also in real life, would you want your GF, GFE-ing it up with 5-10 different guys a day? DFK, DATY - lets not forget that now that SP's like to work in some MP's, and the fact that some MP's actively promote and encourage SP services (Blow Jobs and Full Service) in their "massage parlours", your risk for catching all kinds of STD's and STI's (both of the mouth/throat & genitalia area) have dramatically increased. Being selective and genuine is crucial not only for your health but for the longevity of the MASSAGE industry. The lines are being blurred and its very sad. I dont think that GFE guarantees DFK either.... I highly doubt you would play tonsil hockey with someone who has seriously bad gingivitis. Don't I feel sorry for the lady who feels that she can't give a great experience without having to DFK gingivitis boy. I am sorry but man this annoys me... and its a very dangerous road. Call me old fashioned but I am used to the days when GFE was a term that belonged to high end selective courtesans. As MOD said, it implies sensuality - well for me, sensual massage implies that imperatively. Things evolve and change, and I am not against that - however when you take an SP original term and try and apply it to a MA world - you get alot of confusion and blurred lines. Theory and reality are two different things. I hear my staff tell me everyday... and in my opinion, GFE "girlfriend experience" should have stayed an SP term .... hence why CMJ has had to re-define it to appropriately fit into the massage realm. Genuinely Fabulous Experience

John Caines hosts a very popular call in radio show dealing with home renovations. I would like to start a thread where cerbies could ask for suggestions and give advice regarding renos, car maintenance, electronics gardening, etc.... Let's share our hidden knowledge and abilities :) This is the "how to" thread (how to anything....scrapbooking, stainglassing, photography etc....) so share what you are knowledgeable and passionate about and ask questions about what you want to learn!

Making my mom happy... she's suffering from Alzeimer and I went to her place and gave her a bath...yes she's at that level now...although she was reluctant at first I managed to convince her and she thanked me many times...the look of releif on my dad's face...that made my day :) BJ

I think there is a shame when the word prostitute is pronounced and for me a courtesan or a companion makes it more acceptable and classy...just my honest opinion! Oufff...thats a though question!! I truly enjoy what I do and would keep doing it for a long time.....unless.. winning the lottery...no Financial worries ( might keep working still but not as much ;) Falling deeply in love and be supported financialy...:biggrin: I go with first come first serve! I have turned down a reg who contacted me last minute once and I had just got a booking who was confirmed...he suggested i cancel the other for him... No...not gonna happen sorry!

You supply them slave. Call to book your appointment in and become my PLEASED victim, naughty boy 613.820.8887

If the lady has booked a particular date and time for an individual already, even two minutes before me, and I was the regular, I respect the premise of first come first serve. If there is any benefit to being a regular, one shouldn't be bumping a lady's scheduled encounters. As a regular, or even a new client, one thing, first and foremost is to still remember and respect that this is the lady's livelihood, and you expecting her to bump or cancel a scheduled encounter may lead to her lose that encounter for good, which equals to loss of income for her. A gentleman, especially a regular would not want to see a lady lose any income. A rambling RG Additional Comments: I had to cancel last minute once on a lady I see regularly, she got paid in full plus tip by me. While I cancelled last minute due to illness, and it wasn't my fault I got sick, but it wasn't the lady's fault at all...but why should she be at a loss because I was sick. She got compensated in full because she would otherwise be at a loss income wise because she set aside a time and date for me, a time and date I wasn't going to make. And she didn't need to ask me for a cancellation fee, I just had to find out how to get the money to her (email money transfer) A rambling RG

A hug, when it's much needed. A sense of calm and relief is almost instantaneous.

My regular of course! Reputable cerb members still might cancel, or do a no show. Having a good cerb reputation is great but it doesn't mean he'll be a good client for me. If I consider a gentleman a regular then he has been fun, reliable, someone I like and want to see again. Additional Comments: Ill retire when I loose interest in this profession. When that happens it's my time, until then I'll enjoy it;) Additional Comments: To me they are just words. We all give ourselves titles we feel appropriate and comfortable with. Call it what you like they all have the same meaning, more or less.

Yes they are wonderful compliments. The best compliment to me is repeat visits.

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

What makes you happy....makes you smile, grin from hear to hear...I know you guys will definately come up with the big "O" lol....besides to big "O"... My son just told me...hey mom listen to this: It made me happy instantly :) Doing a good deed makes me happy :) Watching my kids smile makes me happy :) Smiling to a stranger and getting a smile back...nice! Let's get some positive and happy moments here...I'm feeling happy and would like it to be contagious! Thanks for sharing :D BJ

Getting a text from my daughter to see if I'm available for a Skype session. She'll have the baby on for a visit, and he's now able to sit up and starting to recognize whats going on, on the laptop. It's such a treat watching him develop, just seven months old.

Opinion of a guy - what Erin and cmj are posting is the way things always have been and will be unfortunately. But it really is a parallel to life outside the massage service world. Guys that are rude , creepy and gross that don't know how to treat women in the 9-5 world never get laid or have a happy partner either. A key word is respect too. If guys would figure out that the girls workings as MAs don't look at a dude and say..oh I want him sticking his fingers in me right now. Ha. You pay for fantasy but these girls are real people too. Treat them like the beautiful hard working ladies they are. They have to protect their hygiene and bodies too as it is their livelihood and they need a comfort factor. Erin and cmj keep up the high standards as I have personal experience with both. When I'm done a session I know I feel fantastic and the girl feels she met a decent , clean guy that made her day better not worse. That's my two cents... jerks like that and others I think MAs should just give me a swift kick in the balls. What will they do...go home and tell their wives.

Beauty is everywhere and in everything, from an object to a person actions, you just need to look. I can honestly say since me life changed so did my perception. I find beauty in the simplest things in their purest form. A genuine laugh or smile, act of kindness, selflessness. I think as human we've grown accustom to how something should look or be that we've lost sight of what actual beauty is. I know I did, and now that my eyes and mind are open I see beauty everywhere I just have to look.

As an sp, I can honestly say I'm not a hobbiest, never have been probably never will be, I'm on the receiving end. So, to answer your question, in my humble opinion : Not very likely.

I find physical beauty boring. I'd much rather look at someone who is interesting looking, scarred, tatted, someone who has some life on them and maybe even extra weight. But what I think I now know is that kindness shows on a persons face. It shows in their eyes, smile, it's a sincerity that is unmistakeable and to me that is beauty.

People that are there at those very hard times are those to be cherished. It is those times when we all need support. You are very lucky to have such special and thoughtful clients. Additional Comments: Some are aware of how much I love animals and support shelters. So the gents that made donations on behalf of me are my most memorable gifts/favors to date.

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OMG royal, separated at birth? I am sitting in my theater type lazy boy (cup holder, junk food receptacle etc) in my too big pj pants, eating pumpkin seeds with beer and watching .... Wait for it... American Idol and crying when they sing. I am so pathetic! Next, cheezewhiz and whatever I can find to scoop it out of the jar with. Hmmm I have salt and vinegar chips. Wait, baconnaise with cheezewhiz on my finger!

Cerb is becoming a great venue and I find that it is growing due to the ladies promoting it to gents who find them via BP et al. As a provider, I give prioriry to Cerb members so don't be shy about your handle!

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I would agree with Emma, repeat visits would be a better compliment... Means you truly enjoyed their company and would do it again.

Who doesn't like compliments? People love getting them. Compliment away. Sometimes if I compliment a client he thinks I say that to all the guys...no I only say things I mean and like this board if I have nothing nice to say I say nothing at all.

Again only speaking for myself. If your texting me I want it to read like an email. You can first ask if you have the right number but when it's confirmed I want your name etc. Believe me we can write a book on the stupid text messages and emails we get. Lol so be a gentleman and be polite.

We are judged all the time. Sad to say but true. I've been in this situation more then once..sometimes if you tell them right off what you do they think "Wow, all the free sex i can have". That isn't true by the way. wink .If you tell them later then they may walk away or they get it. Some dudes think they get it but it takes a special someone that really does. When dating someone it takes a lot more time to hit the sheets. wink

Your question is a little offensive. Might be better asked "has anyone been with" or "has anyone had an appointment with" or ... well I hope you get the point. Then "she might be worth it"? Brother, these are ladies not objects. Your not going to get much help when your questions read as rude or mean. Your name says "good guy" lets try that... little more gentleman like will get a lot more help here on cerb.

THANK YOU MOD! I dont know what is it so hard for some guys to understand that the GFE term describes a feeling.., the way how a massage session can be very intimate yet NOT NECESSARILY means that they will Get the so called "Extras" ... that the term GFE has nothing to do with An Specific Service... Is An Experience As a whole! THANK YOU AGAIN :)

i pay my accountant by the hour - i pay my lawyer by the hour -i pay my house cleaner by the hour- all professionals -why would your services be any different- except more enjoyable

I agree with Empty83. Beauty is all inside to me. Looks are on the outside but don't make someone beautiful. Someone who can find the positive in any situation or look at someone or something and see the beauty and worth especially when others look at see "less than". Someone who raises others up and does not tear them down, laughs at the joy they see in life even if it's for their own pleasure. Someone who is just as happy alone as with someone because they create their own happiness. Someone who is mindful of the world around them and is passionate about something. There are so many traits that equal beauty but in order to see true beauty, you must take the time to know someone. THAT is beautiful.

The worst case of blue balls I ever had was when I was in my early twenties and didn't know what was happpening (how naive) and went to lay down in my colleged dorm. My girl friend at the time came over and she ended up giving me some delicious head. The happy ending was such that I was totally cured - agony to ecstacy in 10 minutes.

the sushi plate date was most certainly his idea.... ;) I would never serve anything that might turn someone off, I think that would be common sense. You notice sushi wasn't on my list of offering ... too difficult to keep fresh, and not necessarily everyone's favourite. I wouldn't serve nuts either .. too many allergies and I'm pretty sure anaphylaxis is a major turn off ;)

I agree with what has been said. I have met lots of beautiful ladies that do not smile, their eyes are cold with no expression and because of that, I found them less beautiful. Beauty is not just physical...I'd say that it's a state of mind... Beauty, like grace, sensuality & charisma are very important, but they fade relative to the light that emanates from an individual...Real beauty comes from the inside, a woman whose smile is open and whose expression is glad has a kind of beauty no matter what she wears. And I believe it.

I have great memories of many gents but the ones that stand out most are: renting me an apartment in Manhattan for a month. Baking me cookies. Sending flowers And one of the best was when my mom passed away several of my clients got together and sent me money. This meant I didn't have to think about work for awhile.

CERB is the best hands down!!! I've met all my favorite clients here! ;)

Happy Birthday.... sorry to be late but I was away from CERB For a few days

Recos and repeat visits are both equally great compliments!

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Good question. If there is a toy(s) you like to include in your session for you, by all means leave them out and maybe initiate the activity. I am sure most gentlemen will join in and use the toy on you for your added pleasure. As for toys for boys, if you also have them out it would certainly open up the equipment for discussion and likely end up part of your play time too. A little hint suggesting which toy you love to use on a man to give him added pleasure would probably get welcome responses. Just my thoughts.

Diet coke, even coke for breakfast, yuk!!!! Mind you I can remember back in my Army days coming off exercise in the morning, we would go into the town of Petawawa about 8am, hit McDonalds, and have Big Macs, Fries, Chocolate Shakes. Everyone else giving us strange looks while they order breakfast Anyhow, a flashback rambling RG

I can't stand this video, and it seems to be making its way around the internet again. It's incredibly problematic, and conflates trafficking with sex work. This article does a really good job at explaining it: http://eithnecrow.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/why-this-video-needs-to-fuck-off/

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A kit that included a toothbrush, floss, a "flosser" tool, mint toothpicks and a dental mirror LOL :)

Im always excited to see my regulars. It's such a compliment when someone wants to see you more then once. That's a big turn on. Meeting someone new certainly is exciting but in a different way. I'm always hoping I live up to and beyond their expectations.

I really don't have any clients that their job is a turn off...really it doesn't matter. As far as jobs go that may turn me on i don't have that either...some jobs are very interesting though. I do find that guys that see me the most are the artsy type...artists of all sorts. Many doctors too. I guess being a doctor is an artist if you think about it. That being said a job is a job is a job.

Like RG, I'm reluctant to buy clothes for any lady - there's a 99% chance that I won't get the size, color, style, etc. right and it will end up in the same place that we put all the ties that we received as gifts - in a dark closet next to the animated talking fish trophy. Here's a fun video showing the perfect gift for a lady of any age: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyT1Yn08t0&list=SPqhOLoL7F7JBHl-RuNeTHMSfxvQBgLaSF&index=6

The gifts I have received most often were wine, perfume, chocolate, lingerie and donations to animal charities. The donations to animal charities are my favorite and will proudly admit wanting more of. After all the more you give allows more animals to be helped and homed :)

I wear pajama pants at home, always. I eat peanut butter straight from the jar while waiting for the toast. I sometimes eat kraft dinner right out of the pot. I drink orange juice and chocolate milk straight from the jug. I lick the plate or bowl, especially if it's ice cream, unless I let the dogs lick it!

My understanding is that when you ask either an MP or SP what is offered on the menu, it should be understood by all that you can choose to partake in any of the agreed upon services within the time that you are paying for, so if you just want to have a BJ and shoot your load , then see you have enough time to try it again, well you are more then welcomed to that service again. You pay for the time and services that are included during that time, which services you choose don't affect the cost, I believe it has always been this way.