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I completely agree!!!! keep watch on him closely, he will probably sneak back in as he seems pretty passionate with a name like that! #getridofhim

Wow. This entire reply bothers me. Champagne/wine, etc. and conversation are foreplay. It is a necessary part of spending time with a true companion. It allows nerves to settle, flirting to take place and a genuine build of arousal on both sides. Forgoing that, for me, would mean you walking in the door, a quick hello and then wham bam thank you ma'am. Certainly not everyone's style. I believe the error here was that not enough time was booked for the OP and SP to get to know each other. ESPECIALLY when meeting each other for the first time. It sounds like things happened naturally which doesn't always happen and wonderful on both sides. The suggestion that she had "no motivation to end social time" is arrogant and rude, suggesting that we are all manipulative. In addition, the last time I checked, Companions are paid for their time, not for making you cum. I had one awful client who pinned me to the bed and told me time couldn't be up, as he wanted to have sex more and cum" (this was also after leaving me waiting in the hotel bar for 25mins past our appointment start time). I shoved him off of me and reminded him that I don't get paid to make him ejaculate. Be mindful of what your intentions and expectations are when choosing an SP, provider or companion. Regardless of whether she is independent or works for an agency, there are different types of us who choose to do things in a way that works for US!

Second that, watch him, keep him out!!! Good spotting to the Liquor Maybe a report of him to Mod to keep an eye on him in case he changes his name to something else (can still keep track the way multiple accounts are noticed) is what is needed Sounds like a sick f*cker RG

At the rightful age of 39, you would think a man would of have had MUCH more common sense then to come up with a handle as such. His presence/handle will not be tolerated among those that have established a rapport within this community. I say good bye and to be removed. Nice catch "the liquor "

We all agree that there is absolutely zero tolerance for this type of disgusting display. We pride ourselves on being a respectful, caring and safe online community. Mod, please send a message and remove this sickness.

Just joined today - I agree - remove him.

Funny... on his (her?) profile under Friends it says "killallwhores69 has not made any friends yet". Umm... yeah. Don't see that happening. My vote? buh-bye!

There is nothing better and no better cure for most things than a great orgasm. But sometimes it's just not meant to happen. I know at times I can get very frustrated when I am really turned on and want it to happen and..... nothing:( so boys, it happens to us as well. If there are no medical reasons and your health is good, relax and take relief in knowing that some of us just aren't meant to at our wanted times. So the good news, you get to try again, and again;( Here's a link on some of the myths when it comes to woman's orgasms- http://sogc.org/publications/female-orgasms-myths-and-facts/

Couldn't agree more! This kind of nonsense won't be tolerated around here - GOOD RIDANCE!! :vatefaire:

Pure Disgust!

Sorry gang, the name is offensive and should be reported to mod. This clown is most likely "troll" and by commenting on his name all you are doing is feeding the loathsome creature. He got his jollies reading your outrage. Next time, do yourself a favour and report him, but try and refrain from commenting. It will only attract more of his ilk, or even him to return using a different IP.

Wow!! That handle is pure disgusting, and not funny what-so-ever!!! This person needs to be removed right away...CERB is a very loving, friendly, and welcoming community but with a Handle like that, there is no one that is willing to be welcoming to someone like that!!! He/She needs to go, and needs to go now!!!

does anyone know if MOD can block IP#s? or just names? Would make it a LITTLE harder for Him/Her to sneak back in. I agree, zero tolerance.

it won't take long and he'll be gone

This is the reason I don't publish a number, you have to email. I don't like text messages unless they are from someone I know and even then I am not a fan of excessive messaging. Texters who are serial texters could call, but they don't as 90% of the time they are not serious to book at all. Think of a text like an email, if by the second one, you have not learnt anything about the man wanting to book, drop it like a hot potato and move on. If he is serious he will rethink his approach.

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I suppose your comment about being familiar with all the SP's of Fredericton, made us think you have met with all of us. This is a community that supports each other local competition included. I strongly believe in friendly competition, after all at the end of the day, this industry can be a small world and lord knows I would not want to burn my bridges with other ladies in my town as one day we may need each other:) I have often suggested ladies that are here and local to other Gent's as perhaps I am too busy or not providing what you are looking for. I think this is a great way for all of us to be. Sometimes these ladies also pass on my info to their clients too:) Makes it happy world:)

Some are just so lazy that they won't even take the time to learn a thing about us. Makes me wonder why they don't just stay home and watch porn.

Yes I agree, and didn't mean to come off as there's no other better Ladies in town. My first time with a wonderful escort. I'm hoping to have the privilege of meeting you Sophia, you seem very professional with a lot of class. :)

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I have broken my over 30 rule on more than one occasion. For me, it has more to do with their maturity, level of respect, etc. I have turned down a lot of younger ones due to a lack of the above, and an inherent assumption that they can show up, skip the pleasantries and "get their monies worth". Not gonna happen. I'm sure some offer that and that's fine, but NOT me :) Email someone you're interested in seeing. If you are able to demonstrate a level of respect and maturity, I believe there are SPs who would gladly see you (myself included). Good luck!!

It sounds like you both lost track of time. After the hour, everything and anything that happens is a bonus in my opinion. Your encounter just unfolded naturally the way it was intended. If you like her, see her again, and maybe if sex is important, keep an eye on the clock (wear a watch) and perhaps book a longer encounter too A rambling RG

You have to understand that many of us do not share our face for Privacy reasons... Most of us have family and friends whom not know about what we do.., or even if they know to protect them from other people they may know.. this can also affect people close to them at a proffesional level... Or even worse at a personal level.. ex: What it the MA or SP has a husband/BF he has a job and in his job he gets to meet different people and also he has a certain status within a company... we all know how the sexual industry is stigmatized by society... her face appearing on Websites, bosses, or clients finding out what his Wife/GF does for a living... can affect his career... Now what if the MA/Provider has kids... she meets the parents of other kids that go to school with her children, One of this parents runs into one of this Face pictures and recognizes her... This parent may not want her/his kids to Interact with the kids of this MA or SP...

One thing that I'm pretty certain makes slut-shaming of escorts from non escort females.. is a type of jealousy that underlies their fear that all their husband/boyfriend or potential mates have to do.. is make a quick phone call to book an escort and be unfaithful with (likely) zero consequences. With so many statistics of cheating spouses and cheating spouse websites.. this is commonplace anyway.. and you can easily view the drama on a number of reality shows or Jerry Springer type shows how volatile the cheated on party reacts. The fear of infidelity (ownership of a human being from another perspective) and tied to the marriage 'vows' and religious dogma.. adds to their belief that being 'betrayed' gives them the right to display 'the wrath of a woman scorned'. My female non-escort friends are very secure in the knowledge that I'm not 'after their man' and easily trust me.. but I think in general that it taps into the fears of insecure jealous woman that we are 'filthy whores' and can distance themselves from us with this mentality. If we don't exist we aren't a perceived threat... Having been previously a very devout religious person prior to entering this profession (I'm spiritual now.. but definitely not religious and happier for it) I used to be one of those people into slut-shaming for religious beliefs.. boy have things changed for me! But for all the previously mentioned reasons in this thread.. if we can label someone 'dirty' by connotation of the word.. we can distance ourselves and judge openly in an effort to curb the activity. Making it illegal in many countries and parts of it illegal in most just helps justify these types of opinions. Even in Australia where it's legal they still have laws (or perhaps by-laws rather) to preclude certain types of activities in certain states.. ie no BBBJ in Queensland I believe. In the states not even the whole of Nevada is it legal.. only in Pahrump outside of Vegas.. It's so hypocritical! If religion weren't such a major selling point in the political arena with voters there wouldn't be as much stigma in my opinion. Candidates are usually sure to pander to the puritans and increase the stings esp in the US around election time to satisfy the 'burn the witch at the stake' types. We become the scapegoats to appease the religious hypocrites for a while. Speaking of the history of witch burning.. most witches were women who tried to take their own health into their own hands with herbs and nutrition.. advising others to their own knowledge and power. Medicine being a mostly patriarchal business didn't appreciate that.. some similarities there.. and again of course religion being the excuse to discriminate and punish.. literally to death. I do think in the last couple decades though we have advanced the stigma by leaps and bounds. Having been in the business for a quarter century I've seen it for sure. I know several who work in the business though who still feel a strong need to hide what they do.. and it's so unfortunate. Of course many men who visit escorts can't be open either! But then again.. it adds to the titillation factor doesn't it really? A 'walk on the wild side' is part of the thrill of doing something naughty :P

In this lifestyle, speaking in generalities of course, with age comes with maturity. Where as a young man may think he's god's gift, with age comes a maturity, the realization that a gentleman knows he isn't god's gift, but he knows and appreciates that he is going to see one of god's gift, the Goddess he is sharing a hour or a few with. And he appreciates the time the lady has set aside to see him. He does not view her time as an entitlement for him. As has been suggested, contact a lady, build a rapport. When the time is right ask if she will see you. Offer to pay a deposit in advance (there are many well recommended ladies here on CERB in case you are worried about sending money in advance) plus volunteer verification information (your real name, board handle confirmed by PM, email, an unblocked contact phone number) a reference if you have one. She may need other information if you don't have a reference. And btw the ladies can be trusted with this information Be open, forthcoming, show you are more mature than your age, and you may get an companion agreeing to see you despite your youth. And if she declines your request, say thank you and move on. Even if you give her verification information, doesn't mean she owes you an encounter. Be mature at all times, even if you are declined A rambling from a fifty something bald man RG

Even tho everything may be on your website, you may find many contact you asking the same things. If many of those things are not in your ads for example, it might be a sign that more info is needed in the actual ad. Not everyone is able to go from an ad over to a website. The 2nd thing that happens when you get a lot of questions is simply that the person read the ad, and possibly the website, but they did it a few hours or even a couple of days ago. They wrote down the # to contact you because that all looked agreeable to them, but they don't remember much about the ad itself. They may have 3 to 6 different numbers. When they contact you, it is then part of your marketing job to remind them why they wrote down the number, even if it means repeating yourself. This is why i am a phone call only, no email no texting person. You can do all that in 1 minute or less, rates/description/location/services/restrictions, and no typing, no back and forth email/text questions, just one shot and done. Basically you can choose to be annoyed by their interest in spite of the info being available, or you can seize the day and make it your mission to remind them why they were attracted to your ad in the first place. Because they probably will, out of those 6 #s they wrote down, encounter at least 3 sps who are going to bark at them 'Can't you read my ad before calling???!!!!" and hang up on them lol Also, and also very important, the phone call is to confirm what they saw in the ad or site (which isn't necessarily written by the person they are contacting). if your conversation contradicts anything in the ad or site, they will be on alert seeing that as a red flag.

Nice looking lady or not, she could use her own photos. Im sort of appalled that you or anyone would back someone using fake pictures. That is a clear insult to every lady that actually uses their own photos (and men wonder why those of us with REAL photos depicting ourselves get annoyed when people ask"are your photos real") This hobby is a fantasy not a bait and switch fairy tale. The fact people actually support women like this make me shake my head.

I will raise my drink while down south in the Caribbean thinking of all of you! I look forward to the social after March 20th. If you're a gent reading this and have not gone before I would scoop up a ticket quickly and enjoy yourself! Quality people and a great time! I will miss all you stunningly sexy ladies :( but there is always the next one, and in warmer weather could mean sexy summer dresses :)

Sounds like I could be your dog too, I shed, I like kisses, farting goes without saying and I luuuuv snuggling under the blankets!

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I agree, the pet smart in my city is probability the only place I would bring my dog if I was not able to my poodle. Although not one on one attention, it is very clean and the staff is certified for sure.

It can be frustrating but I have booked many appts by text and they liked the way I sounded through that conversation. They booked right away and then I made sure they called to confirm. Sometimes people want to have a sense of who the SP through a real life back and forth exchange. Same thing by talking on the phone. I would say it takes about 5 texts to securely book an appt. I've had people ask where I'm located. I tell them and then they say it's too far. It was in the title of the ad!! That is a clear cut case of when an SP gets annoyed. Then they try to make you feel guilty about it. lol. With those types of guys, I cut them off quick. I don't like email exchanges and never have. To me, it's a waste of time because ultimately I'm going to need to speak to them by phone. At least with texting, it's real time and don't have to wait around for a response. Most texters text because they want a quick response which is what I offer. I don't mind answering questions but if the exchange seems never ending is when I tend to get annoyed. One person said to me the other day that they love to chat. I told them that's great but I only text to book appts and if they're interested, great but I don't have time to chat all day. I have to do it in a diplomatic way instead of not sounding rude even if I want to rip my hair out at the time. lol. He got the message. You can tell within a matter of minutes when someone begins to be a pain in the ass. I try to give as much info up front with a standard text I have saved in my phone. If it's one liners one after another with "Do you do this?" Next text, "Do you do that?". It's all included in that standard text and if they start up with that, I tell them I have to go. In fact, answering questions and giving info is a large part of my daily routine as long as the conversation is on the straight and narrow. It it diverts into an attempt for sexting then I cut them off. Texting pretty much takes up a lot of my time other than seeing clients but I don't mind because I'm building a rapport with people and when you are selling your services, people begin to form their opinion of you. So how you come off sounding is very important.

Thank you Jessica Lee-I'll take credit for that point as I said it and have seen it and felt it as have others, or so I'm told:) Just recently I was told of a provider referring to "escorts" as "common"-a quote and courtesans as "educated" -quote. We all have different experiences within this profession. Not feeling something or experiencing it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Actually in all forms of employment and professions stigmatizations happen. Some people have to put others down to feel better about what they are doing. I've heard some cab drivers being put down by limo drivers, some teachers being put down by some professors? Perhaps this isn't the same as stigmatizing sex work as stigmatize actually means labelling something as disgraceful or ignominious. As some in society do deem sex work as disgraceful, not just below them. To sum up, I believe that a job title doesn't define a person or their worth it simply outlines their duties, abilities within their chosen profession. -my apologies for the name mix up

Heh, great minds: I was just gonna suggest that. Bottom line, in my opinion, find a lady that provides incall and enjoy. Although one or two hotels were suggested, that's going to be much more trouble than it's worth in this city. Don't forget about a possible paper trail with a hotel, either.

He should be able to pay for a day rate, which depends on the hotel, but at leat the hotel won't expect him to remain in it overnight. OP, there is no reason why you can't find an indy sp with an incall for you to go to visit. Don't make this complicated. It is possible the agency also has that option, if you are mentioning them because you have seen someone in their ads that you like. Start contacting some now and find out what your options might be. Contact the hotel as well about day rates. :) Do NOT ever have an escort come to you to a place where any people other than just yourself can walk in anytime.

Your post got me to thinking. Would society and the government be OK with prostitution then if only single women were escorts and only single men partook in this lifestyle. But as for the walk on the wild side bit, I sure wish I had walked on the wild side much younger in life, like before I needed a walker to help with my walking LOL RG

My dog would love this thing, he's a fiend for water anywhere, anytime. That said, his unexpected forays into my shower with me keep him fairly clean. I would consider investing in one if it was big enough for a client... ; cat

Plus, your boss who paid for the trip insists on hanging out with you all the time, and keeps insisting you go everywhere he wants to go and do the things that interest him because after all, he's the one paying. I think the guys in question just assume that their own company is at worst a neutral factor for the SP, and more likely in their minds a positive one ("because look at me, I'm awesome!"), when in fact the perpetual, enforced company of a stranger quickly becomes tedious. But the kind of person most likely to miss this point, is also the one least likely to ever understand it even if it's explained to them.

I don't think there is anything more you need to do because it's not about what you're not doing it's what they're( the perspective clients) not doing correctly. There are some guys that just don't bother to read anything, they just look at pictures then call and when they call they'll ask you every question that is answered on your site or profile page. There are also guys that no matter how much you put in print they'll read it then do as they please. Then there are those guys:) we all love who just do everything right. They follow our booking protocols and requests to a T. Just ignore most of the time wasters and tire kickers and eventually you'll gain your following, it just takes time and some days a lot of patience. Best of luck:) If I may-I would suggest you add the www. to your web address at the bottom as the link to your site doesn't work for me, unless I'm doing something wrong, if so my apologies.

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your going to miss a good time if you don't attend Additional Comments: hope everyone is thinking of going to the social going to be a good time

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I just spoke with someone that knows her and she was well aware she was running underage girls. She has already been caught and had been under house arrest only able to leave home on Fridays for a couple of hours. Maybe this is one of her breach charges?

Ahhh, the ?tipping? debate! I noticed there was a decided void in SP response so I will take a minute to share my thoughts? From an agency girl perspective, tipping is often a way to generate extra income because after they pay the agency and the driver, they usually end up on the short end of the stick. 10 years ago, I ran for an agency, we collected $260 for an hour, with $110 going to the house, $40-$100 to the driver depending on where the visit was located, which left me maximum of $110 with as little as $10 in my pocket. With a $15 book on fee and mandatory car cell phone fees of $25 per night, I needed 3 full fees per night to make working worthwhile, God forbid I get credit card calls, which somehow always worked out us getting nothing. We were not allowed to refuse a call so we had to find creative ways to ensure we were paid. Tipping for extra service was the only way to keep our heads above water. The nice thing was that we had a shift, we worked, and we went home and had a life. That said, it was unfair to the guest who would end up with less than what he expected because he was not prepared for the extra fees. Independents are in a slightly different boat. We usually have a higher upfront fee, but we also assume ALL the costs incurred, which is far more than many realize. If we charged what we feel we should to get our ROI, the protests would be heard long and loud. Many Indies have a smaller bottom line than an ambitious girl at a well run agency. So when it comes to tips, many things need to be considered. In the south, SP's are tipped much in the same manner as a restaurant. Anyone walking a restaurant wouldn?t consider walking out without leaving a tip if everything was satisfactory. I tip everyone in the service industry, from the girl who washes my hair, to the man at Suny?s who pumps my gas because a little bit from many adds up at the end of the day. Flowers and trinkets are lovely in thought, but a girl can?t deposit wilted stems into an RRSP, and my bank doesn?t seem to take dildos, massage oil, garter belts or silk stockings on deposit -go figure! As Joyful C has so wisely stated, most SP?s live a fragile existence financially. We provide an illusion of playful luxury for our guests benefit, but rest assured, 90% of the time it is smoke and mirrors. Behind the scenes we struggle to pay our bills, put diapers on our babies and try to take care of those we love, all the while working on a way to get to a normal existence if that does in fact even exist. An extra $20 from each client equals a full appointment by the end of the week, and at the end of the month that pays the cell phone, buys the groceries and lets us take the little ones away for the weekend after we have paid both rents (home and incall), all our advertising, babysitters, hydro, car repairs, personal maintenance and the same expenses everyone else has. Not to mention the monthly payments on augmentation, lifts, tucks and anything else to keep us up to the exceptionally high standards expected if we want to continue making money in this arena. There are few SP?s who can keep up the daily client service to ensure long term financial viability in this business because of the emotional and physical toll this business extracts which sometimes means extended time offs to get our heads, hearts and bodies back in order. We have no paid holidays, benefits or paid personal days. If there is a crisis that forces us to take time off, we lose money and clients which often means we work regardless of illness, pain or any other of lifes challenges. Each SP has her own reasons for working, but the universal element is that we all are trying to achieve some sort of financial stability. I never expect tips, and I can count on one hand how many I have received since my arrival in Canada because of the nature of the business here. Hate to tell you guys, but Canadian men are not known for their generous nature, they rank a close second to Germans in this realm (I think the outlandishly high taxes inflicted in both countries has something to do with it!). I would never expect a tip from guests that have me on retainer, I see them weekly. But unless you are going to be a bankable commodity in a SP?s life, a tip relative to the quality of service is a sure way to say thank you and have her know you mean it... Catherine