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As someone who does most of my communications, including all first-time interactions by e-mail, I would never feel comfortable answering an introductory e-mail (or any other, to be honest) with a one line response like that. For this reason, e-mails always wait until I have sufficient time to sit down and write a personal, thoughtful response. E-mail goes to my phone, but unless it's time-senstive, it won't get answered until later on when I get home, after dinner, after I'm done entertaining, or after I'm done whatever else I need to do right now. I consider my communications as part of the whole experience I offer, and so I don't half-ass it, or rush it. Good communication (on both sides) can set the whole tone of a potential encounter, and I know that my e-mails have made new clients, or nervous folks feel 100% more confident about what may come. I don't like receiving one line e-mails, so I don't send them. But while I make special time to properly answer e-mails, I may still have spare moments throughout the day, while waiting for a guest to arrive, or waiting in line at Loblaws, to send out a tweet, bump my BP ad, etc. Also, for me, I actually do my due diligence with potential client's information, including their name, e-mail, phone number, and other information I might have about them. It takes a bit of time to run it though different bad date databases, Google, and do a few other top-secret hooker tricks. So I need to sit down and pay attention to doing these things, before I can respond to the e-mail. Also, if there is a reference to check, this can bring another party into the mix, which might also extend the response time. As well, e-mails that have all the proper information, included with a friendly introduction, always get answered much sooner the other ones that I dread answering where I have to press for more info. Sometimes I also take a day or two off, when I often cut myself off from non-essential work-related communications. If I get an e-mail on Saturday, looking for an appt next Thursday, I might not answer instantaneously. At this time I might be hanging out with my family, or Tweeting online, reading and responding to threads on CERB, or whatever else I feel like doing. Then on Monday when I consider myself "back to work", I'll take the necessary time to thoughtfully respond to gentlemen's inquiries. :) I say this, but I still often reply to e-mails on my days off; I just don't feel like I am obligated to be available 24/7 to answer inquiries. Overall I think I'm a pretty good communicator, and very good with response time. The only reason I'm responding to this thread, is that I have encountered situations exactly like this, (and I know many other ladies have too), where I've had clients who I haven't even met yet, e-mail a second time questioning me because they saw me do something online before receiving a response to their initial e-mail. While I want to be reliable, accommodating, and communicate well, a while back I made a promise to myself never to be a slave to my phone, e-mail, money or clients. Because this job can sometimes be unconventional in terms of hours & scheduling etc, it's important to set personal boundaries like this. I need time for me, otherwise I'd go crazy and wouldn't be useful or fun for anyone.

Unlike a spa location, independent and agency providers don't have a till or money box and we don't keep cash on site, I can't make change except from what the last client brought me. Honestly, the ones who need the change generally arrive with the correct donation. They've been waiting and planning for our time together; they are prepared above and beyond. During the times of my life, when $ was tight, I made sure there was no room for confusion. I do have clients that live on pension and have limited funds. They aren't the ones who ask for change. It's the men who walk in, roll off the $20's from a wad of cash that they always seem to have and then stand there expectantly waiting for a girl to go fish for the change that makes no sense to me. Funny thing, in my experience they also are the ones that seem to want to push other boundaries and ensure they "get their money's worth". A little clarification about "cheap". There is a correlation to the generousness of spirit and one's wallet that has nothing to do with a persons financial situation. It's not the act of genuinely needing the change and asking for it, it's the energy behind the ask. It's easy to feel the difference between someone who is asking out of financial necessity and one who is simply cheap by nature. Being cheap with minute amounts of cash will often reflect a miserly intention of how your share your energy and spirit. It is an anti-seducer that will dry me out faster than Mitchum applied directly to my cookie and even after adding copious amounts of lube does nothing to enhance the experience we are about to share. It's like going out to dinner where the bill is $97 and leaving $115 then waiting for the $.45 change... cat

I think there are a couple of things going on. We tend to think of what our engagement in this hobby/lifestyle, as exactly that. Certainly, it is purchasing a lady's time and companionship, and certain services that go along with that. Asking for change drives home the commodity aspect of the transaction, rather than the "relationship" aspect of the exchange. Also, it is a luxury item, so quibbling over 5 or 10 dollars, seems cheap. I have the same reaction when people complain of having to pay for parking when they visit a service provider. If you can't afford the parking, then you shouldn't be engaging in the hobby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying the exact amount requested by the provider. But I do not think that service providers can be expected to have change on hand. If one wants to pay the exact amount, then it is incumbent on the client to make sure they've figured that out in advance. I always have my money in the envelope. I have a "tip amount" tucked away and available. There are plenty of times I've had exact change, plenty of times when I've "overpaid" by 10 bucks. But to be honest, I've rarely felt like I've actually overpaid for what I received.

It really is as simple as "be prepared"... Or would you rather ask for change, and watch ten minutes of your session together be devoted to the provider having to get out her purse/wallet, hoping that she has the change? The awkward conversation if she doesn't? Congratulations, you just cock-blocked yourself ;)

This week I had the pleasure of meeting a beautiful sexy CERB Lady and as is my usual practice after entering the ladies hotel room and greeting the lady I look for an appropriate table for me to discreetly place the ladies donation. On this particular day I did just that and we proceeded with a wonderful session together. When the time came to leave we kissed and hugged a few times and I was on my way back to work. Then it happened I got a text from the lovely lady politely letting me know my donation was $40.00 short.... I immediately thought no way that's not possible... how the fuck did that happen.... I had gone to the bank on the way to the session so i knew how much I should have left... I checked and sure enough... I had $40.00 more than I should have had. I texted the lady immediately and apologized and asked if I could email the money to her which I did along with a tip. I immediately thought fuck... my reputation on CERB will be shot this was a well established lady who would certainly now let it be known that I was a flake who shorted her... thankfully she did not do that she accepted my apology and was extremely professional about it. Since then we have exchanged a few texts and are looking forward to meeting again. So why post this... well two reasons: Mistakes happen but when they do and the parties involved deal with them professionally things can work out for everyone. So that I can take this opportunity to thank Bianca Jaguar for her understanding of my mistake and for her professional approach to the issue. Thanks Bianca

Point taken. I myself used the term 'mortified' in my post. However, that wasn't based on my own judgment of people necessarily, but rather, my own discomfort at having to discuss finances explicitly with clients when we are face-to-face. I have no right to judge anyone. Conversely, many clients do try to get 'deals', or cheaper appointments if they are having financial difficulties. Unfortunately, I can't take responsibility if one of my clients can't afford to see me... It's hard not to get judgmental in this industry when I think of someone asking for change. As others have said, I do think it's the responsibility of the client him or herself to insure they have the appropriate amount. It has never happened to me (thank goodness) and I'm sure I would handle the situation gracefully. But I would be lying if I said it wouldn't throw me off. I'm just being completely honest here. Nat xox Additional Comments: Totally agree re: the labels! I need to park my judgment!

Of course they do. It is definitely a case-by-case basis. I also have clients with disabilities (both visible and invisible) and their disposable income is limited. Some of my clients save for upwards of a year to be able to afford to come and see me. Never has one of these clients asked for change, or come unprepared for our meeting. In fact, there is quite a lot of preparation that goes into these encounters (both on my part, and on the part of my client). I'm sorry you feel a lot of the generalizations in this thread are judgmental and unkind. I can definitely see how that could come across but I don't agree that the judgments are necessarily negative. Feeling uncomfortable in these situations is a very real feeling, and we all have knee-jerk reactions to the intersections of intimacy and money which may or may not be rational. Of course, if I knew one of my clients was in dire financial situations I would not judge him or her for asking for their $10. I would, however, take offense to someone who was not in dire financial need who did the same. These are all case-by-case situations, of course, and the OPs initial question was, after all, asking for a general idea of what peoples reactions would be (not specifics). I think Porthos' post gets at the core of the issue quite well, and so I won't repeat it.

I just saw Jamie Lee Curtis and spoke with her in the hotel coffee shop....She is just stunning....

You forgot sexy Mister! Beauty, brains and a dirty mind! I love this community and the variety of people here. So many different thoughts, perspectives, kinks, vanillas, support, love (and the not so great stuff too). Can I be a flagpole instead of a cornerstone? I like poles! :icon_twisted:

Regarding the label of cheap... If you went to a restaurant with friends and your bill came out to 36 dollars. If you handed two 20's and sat at the table waiting for your server to get you your two toonies every one of your friends would call you cheap, regardless of what you needed those toonies for. Your server would be standing there with an internal monologue of what did i do to upset this person, or wow this guys is cheap. The question isn't whether you need to pay more or whether anyone can question how you spend your money. If you don't want to pay that extra 5 or 10 then dont give it to her in the first place. Society is full of judgements and expectations, and this would qualify as cheap in most service industries. If you don't want to or cant afford to tip then take the extra diligence to not draw attention to the payment process.

You might want to check out the bait and switch section here http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125521 ....and she used a different name as early as last week

With respect, I really don't understand what the first part of your post has to do with this thread. Yes, sadly, there exists exploitation and harms within the industry; however, there exists the same within any other industry. I don't see why this was brought into the conversation.

While I would not consider someone asking me for change cheap as he is totally entitled to it, I agree with what many had pointed out here, most of us providers post our fees in ads, websites or/and profiles so is not like the client who walks somewhere not knowing how much he will spend. Now, if I were the kind of provider who is a clock watcher and as soon as I see the hour or two are almost over start rushing things then I would understand clients being as careful with their money as I am with my time but with me not working like that then I think someone asking me for a $5 or $10 back would be as awkward and inappropriate as me saying 'Time is up' please leave besides, for safety purposes I do not keep cash on me other than a $20 and maybe some spare change but I would find it awkward to have to go get my purse and that to give someone change back and having to count dimes, quarters. etc. to give someone change back. However IF an exceptional situation presented with someone I had previously met and let's say he knows he only has $100 bills and would need $80 back but will have no time to stop by a bank or ATM or for discretion purposes can't take money out from ATM, then as long as I'm giving enough notice I wouldn't mind having the change ready for him in an envelope same way my fee is given to me and would give it to him upon arrival after getting my envelope and as usual not mention anything about it during our time together but as I said this would be an exception and would only do it for someone I consider reliable.

I actually do see your point. And think it is great you have change available for those who don't have the exact amount. In such cases as you cite yes I wouldn't see needing change as cheap. But quoting myself, second last line in my post "Now there may be some who do need that change, but my feeling is most of the men asking for change, the same sort of guys who complain about clock watchers" I'm not talking about those who really are in need of the change, but my guess, the vast majority of clients aren't really in need of the change. I also think it is great that you do offer change. But I guess no matter which side someone cites, either now it is coming down on the side of clients having the correct amount ready, or on the side that the lady should have change available for those clients who bring too much money Personally, I am of the opinion that clients should have the correct amount available and they should not expect, nor should it be required of the lady to have change. RG

From my perspective.... If a lady says your visit is valued at $370, you put $370 in the envelope and that's it. Period. You knew up front - there was no "guesstimate" involved. I suspect you will travel past a store or bank or gas station or ?? and be able to break a $20 (or get the correct change) if it's an issue for you between your location, and the lady's. Generally speaking, you enter the lady's location, hug/kiss and place the envelope with your previously agreed amount in clear view. You enjoy your encounter and leave. Simple. For the most part, the ladies I have met rarely touch the envelope until I leave. Perhaps they peek when I go to clean up, which is fine, but it usually, is right where I placed it when I came in, throughout the encounter and when I leave. In my opinion, asking for change is just plain tacky. But, that's just this man's opinion :)

For me this issue is not about right or wrong or a guy being cheap.... i just think a guy should come prepared and not expect the lady to make change. If I did not have correct change I would consider it a tip as financially I can afford that if I could not I would understand that if I don't arrive with correct change I can't expect the lady to solve my problem. If you can plan ahead for the visit this should not be a problem. Just my opinion.

This is funny, sorry but I find it comical truly I do. :) I can't understand someone asking for change especially looking for 5/10 bucks back, lol. I recall a couple of visits where the ladies actually said " you gave me too much" wanted to hand it back, I smiled and said " you're cute, but no, that's yours,grab some lunch or dinner for yourself,enjoy"

Hoping I can make it this time...

There is only one swinging/ couples club left in Ottawa. It's open to pre registered couples and single women. Bashful and bold. It's in a industrial park and it's BYOB. I've been a couple of times and had a lot of fun actually. As for parties. There is a meet and greet held every couple of months by this couple. Last time was at a Irish pub. 350 ppl attended. No play at the pub of course but you can network and organize to meet couples in whatever way you want. Again you need to pre register with this couple directly. AFF might be a better site for you to try with your significant other. Of course if you're a single guy just looking to bang other peoples wives in an orgy setting?....... Keep dreaming. Lol

As a Habs fan, it's heartwarming to see Leafs and Sens fans consoling each other on an early golfing season, arguing only which team had the most disastrous year. Was it the one that was never very good from the start, or the one that gave their fans hope, only to collapse tremendously and thoroughly at year's end? All kidding aside, I applaud those who set petty rivalry aside long enough to cheer for the only team representing Canada this year. We're not going to win the cup, but let's give em hell, at least. ;)

Hey, great pics on bac pages so I was interested too. Found conflicting adds where she goes by Jessica. also recent adds that had pics that were in an add from 2008. All big ol red flags to me. Glad to have joined Cerb and think I am going to stick here for SP.

I think it's perfectly fine if $5 or $10 bucks does mean a lot to a person, and that this hobby should not just be for the wealthy. A lot of folks have to spend a fair bit of time saving up for the pleasure of an encounter. But, while it's OK to be in a situation where each dollar matters, it simply makes a lot more sense to have the exact change arranged ahead of time, rather than putting the onus on the lady and assuming she'll be able to provide it, and deal with the potential awkwardness of that conversation. I mean, I certainly understand that not everyone has the same level of disposable income, but I'd just hate to turn the friendly hug goodbye moment into a situation where the lady is digging through her couch cushions trying to find a few more quarters. :)

I've seen four different sps, and in making our initial contacts, three of them have taken longer to respond to email than I would prefer. Sometimes to the point that I (without basis) would think that they were ignoring me. Point being prompt email response is not the be all end all. To say that the lady would lose your business because of this is short sighted. As Savannah stated above, we all have our lives outside of work. One doesn't know someone else's situation, so it isn't fair to criticize. In each of my sp experiences, including those that took some time to get a response, I have been rewarded for waiting patiently for them to get back to me. And in one case, I have found a relationship that I treasure more than many in my life. I can't imagine giving that up for the sake of a few days.

When I first started to read this thread this morning, I grabbed my Sister and was reading it to her and I thought it was quite funny and asked her "what do I need buy now, a register or go to the bank and get rolls of loonies and toonies?". My Sister and I thought it was quite funny and knew there would be some interesting responses, I don't recall ever being asked for change in NS..... Does it make the person asking seem cheap? Yes, IMHO but if you do need it back ask and I do think it takes a big person to admit they need the change and there is no shame in that and as a quality provider you would make an effort to just look past it and move on (ya'll know you just can't book an encounter at a department store with rolled backed prices, quality paid companionship costs) or on the other hand they are just one of them cheapskate people you see on TLC, then what? you can't tell either way in most cases, give the change if you have it or give them back a 20$ to go run and get change but the onus is on them to come/have with correct amount. Provider's are not ATM's or coin dispensing machines. As we have read/heard Hobbyist's never wanted or should be treated like an ATM either.

I just wanted to add something to what I have already said.. why would it be cheap for someone to ask for change? Not every gentleman that partakes on this life style has the same disposable income... what if for what ever reason this gentleman has a very restricted budget... and what if this gentlemen for what ever reason has no other way to have intimacy with a lady... We all have responsibilities and in a way we all have a budget for our regular day to day expenses.., and Fun expenses... some people has more than others but this does NOT make the Person CHEAP or a BAD Client... and yes what if For this person in particular the 10$ can be his bus fare to get to work.., or who knows... Yes I know that as providers (MAs or SPs) we are a luxury service... I much rather some one asks me for change than have someone barganing rates... I find trying to negociate much more insulting than asking for change... And to be honest os not that 5 or 10$ what is going to make a difference for me...

Just popped in my head, but I wonder if those guys that ask for change back are the same type of guys that would complain if the lady is a clock watcher and he only got the time he paid for Just wondering out loud RG

Gentlemen would be astounded by the number of men who ask for change back but in my experience it's usually for the lower priced encounters. When I worked for an agency in Atlanta, they had appointments priced at 15 minute increments. Almost without fail, the client would arrive with $20's and want the $10/$5 change. At first I would scramble to give it, sometimes counting out quarters to ensure they got it; then the agency owner clued me in that it wasn't my responsibility to ensure they have the correct change. The clients knew the agency policy and were told on the phone to arrive with the exact amount but because I was new, they took advantage of my inexperience. I remember thinking to myself while giving it to them "If you can't afford to tip me 5/10$ then you can't afford to be paying for pussy; get your priorities straight!". Some peoples children... cat

No, never. It is embarrassing and sounds cheap to ask for change. I will rather make the effort to stop at a corner store and break it or give less tips at the end. I will not do anything to cause any uneasiness ( by asking for change) with the potential to ruin the fun.

I recently started to see ads for Sophie that peeked my interest. Soon after her first ad, she joined our community here on CERB and this made me want to make a connection soon. So this past Friday I saw that she was working, I had to make contact. I emailed her as her ad requests and introduced myself and asked a few question. Sophie promptly replied and her email asked me for my phone number and a time she could call to discuss further. This process is a little different for me, however I absolutely understand her desire for discretion and her process for booking. It doesn't matter how many times I meet a woman I am always a little nervous. Being nervous was short lived though as soon as Sophie opened the door. I was met by this petite sexy woman with a big hug and kiss. Sophie is extremely friendly and intelligent and this led to conversation with her being very easy and interesting. We proceeded to talk for awhile getting to know each other which led to her starting to get playful with some kissing and touching. Now, as for the naughty part of our encounter I won't get into the details. Every encounter is going to be different and of course a YMMV situation. I will say though, that Sophie is very sensual, a great kisser and I absolutely loved exploring every inch of her. Sophie was very adept to my needs and desires and accommodated them perfectly. Sophie works a limited schedule, but I would highly recommend to anyone. I certainly plan on repeat visits as often as time permits. Thank you Sophie for the memorable and enjoyable time. It was an absolute pleasure meeting you and I look forward to much more time spent together.

If you have read some of my posts you will already know that I am a big hockey fan.... yep Toronto Maple Leafs.... and I have noticed over the years that people are more than happy to point out a the negatives about hockey so i thought I would point out a couple of recent hockey stories that show it in a more positive light... First... i have posted a link to a youtube video of the recent Rich Peverley event when he collapsed at the bench due to a cardiac event... he was saved and is ok but as you watch the video notice how all the players stop and support each other... the game is eventually canceled but it shows that while they battle hard with each other it is a game. http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jivQgF6J1g The second story I would refer you to is the Ryan Smyth retirement last night in Edmonton.. at the start of the game he skated on the ice with his son.... and then as the game ended he sat on the bench crying as the crowd stood and clapped. Just two high points in hockey this season Just my opinion

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I would never & have never asked for change & never gave it a second thought...until just a couple of months ago as I was coming out of the shower the lady handed me my change. I was taken by surprise & of course said no thanks that's your's . I just thought it was sweet of her to offer...first time in over 15 yrs.. I've never even got a thank you before.

That by far is the best comment I have read in a long time... what a great way with words.

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congrats frank97500 well done

Congratulations Frank... 2000 posts excellent... keep them coming.

congrats. well done!

Congrats Frank!...keep on posting.

Last night tiny Union College won the NCAA National men's hockey title. I always enjoy seeing the little guy win one now and then.

I agree with the consensus that asking for change is bad etiquette. I also agree that the gentlemen who do ask are usually seeking lower priced encounters. If you are coming in for a 30 minute session you are either strapped financially or in a serious rush. If its the former and the 10 dollars means that much you should question whether you should have spent the rest. I have had this happen and it really does change the feeling in the room. Digging through my purse for a couple of 5's does not create a sexy goodbye :). most gentlemen tip and it really does create a positive feeling for the next visit. Just like the elimination of the penny we in this industry should agree to eliminate the 5 and 10 dollar bill... either that or I am going to add a fanny pack full of change to my lingerie collection. The man who wants change gets exactly what he asks for! Just my "2 cents" xoxo

I suspect you can almost guarantee it.

Besides google, just contact any advertiser with real great photo studio photos and ask for them to send you a link to their website. If they are 'borrowing' the photos, chances are very good that they do not have a website. This is not a 10000% guarantee, but most sps with professional quality photos also have websites. And sps who use those kinds of photos and do not have websites, you tend to question why they don't.

I've been told my feet are softer than some other people's hands.. which is great for a foot fetishist.. but they are too delicate for high heeled uncomfortable shoes so I can't wear them for any length of time.. which bites the big one.. I love high heeled shoes.. any visitors to my home have seen some of my shoes displayed like works of art on my shelves around my home... but I only wear them laying down :)

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I find that email can be used as a form of initial communication. However, for the actual confirmation of details, most ladies need to talk to you - hear your voice for example. I won't book anyone via email - they must call me (or I can call them if its easier for them) to get location and final confirmation. Anyone can create a fake email account - a little more challenging to create a fake phone number and voice. That's why its great to have a dedicated hobby phone - you turn it on when you want to play and turn it off when you are done. You don't have to worry so much about someone calling you out of the blue if you are worried about discretion.

Hi babe, I have a few clients that are into feet fetish and I gladly let them suck my toes and botts or high heels as much as they want!! Additional Comments: Hi darling, I have quite a few clients that have a foot fetish and love to suck my toes, boots or high heels and hey if U like that and just show me how bad U like it and want it well the pleasure is also mine love!! Hoping to have U suck my feet soon honey!!