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Today is Quebec's national day so happy birthday to all Québec gentlemen and beautiful ladies of cerb! How do you celebrate this Holiday...or do you celebrate at all? For my part I don't celebrate much on the 24th of june...for one i don't like crouds...specially on that day coz I found it is mostly a young croud that like to get drunk and be disturbing...It can be fun with a bunch of friend though :) There are a lot of shows, artist, signers performing ( not always the most popular either) in parks organized in more or less big cities and fireworks to end the evening. I have been to the state for the 4th of July and they sure know how to celebrate...not just on the 4th but days before and after...Our american Neighbors are very welcoming people! Do you have a favorite Holiday to celebrate? Canada day? or others... Bianca

Hmmmm This is a very interesting topic.I should be out riding but its raining so I am here and came across this thread. I can only speak for myself but I have made some really great friends in this profession.For myself I find it easier then dating so I do this by choice not be cause I have to.I do think it helps with loneliness if even for a brief couple of hours...everyone needs a human connection and to be touched and feel wanted and cared for. Different things happen in life that cause us to handle things differently or perhaps be more guarded.This is a good way to be held,have a human connection but yet still not have to completely open up until we are ready for that. Alexoxoxoo

Welcome to Halifax and good luck with your search . While you may find someone willing to visit you for what you mention be prepared for more than that . Especially in the evening .

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The best SP/MA encounters I've had have always been with women who I've clicked with. It's still about the sexual release, but that's so much better with someone I can talk to. I would caution the original poster though to remember that it is a service industry. I've talked to several providers who've been hounded by men who lost sight of the difference, guys who forgot that the "girlfriend experience" was on an hourly rate. It's great if an encounter can reduce your loneliness, but it's important to always keep that fact in mind.

On the contrary, I think if you read through the thread you'll see that those topics were raised in response to the OP's subsequent points and questions as the thread progressed. Clearly we're having different experiences with SPs, and approaching the OP's queries from different perspectives, but that's cool. He, and others reading the thread, will draw their own conclusions.

Personally, I think a lineup is a bit degrading! I like beautiful girls just as much as the next guy but looks are only one component, and I think a small one, of a great encounter. Maybe you're not looking for beauty but for a particular feature like small boobs (yipee) or big boobs, great legs, great bum, whatever. As stated above, I think the pictures provided by the hi-end spas would provide that info. I find a bit of homework goes a long way in finding the MA with the assets I most enjoy :) To answer your question, I'm not aware of any that provide a lineup. My 2 cents!

Fake photos, and that number's been associated with other fakes for months. Don't waste your time.

BBQ Maple Salmon with spinach salad and fresh fruit for dessert. A glass of white wine or a Corona for the adults.

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One issue I've faced with going to a SC with clients is that the bouncers will check your ID and then say your full name (first and last) out loud to 'welcome' you into the club. This has happened to me three times now. With the gentlemen in question it was fine because they knew my name anyway, but if this happened with a first time client I would be upset. I spoke to those bouncers after we were seated at the table and they apologized, but it hasn't really changed the behaviour as bouncers come and go and I think it's in their training to do that. For the girls that work at SCs, is it possible to change that practice? Not sure how, but it's not ideal and I feel they should know better than to do that.

As an eight year member on the board I can tell you it has always been Ottawa, Winnipeg and the East Coast who have been the biggest contributors to the board. Over the last couple of years there has been a significant increase in contributions from members in both Kingston and Thunder Bay. Even though this is the only national board, we have always struggled to get members from all area of Canada to contribute to CERB. I will forever try to encourage members from all areas of the country to contribute here. The C stands for "Canadian", don't complain there isn't information on your area if you are not contributing yourself. Happy hobbying! :D

I've followed Grace for a few years on Twitter.... she's a character. If you have ever wanted to know what a stream of consciousness sounds like, read Grace when she is on a roll. She has been in the biz in Oz for quite a while... and if you have Twitter, I strongly recommend following @GraceBellavue.

Jason, feel free to let the ladies you see know about CERB and tell them that it an SP friendly site. Many ladies avoid boards because they are very antagonistic towards providers so they choose to avoid all of them except the ones they need to advertise on locally. The more ladies from a specific region participate on a board, the more men are drawn to it... cat

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/peter-mackay-s-prostitution-law-news-conference-sowed-confusion-1.2679800 in this article the Justice Department claims McKay was very wrong about some key parts of the bill, including the advertising. The parts of C-36 dealing with advertising have caused a lot of confusion. At the news conference, MacKay was asked if prostitutes who take out ads could be prosecuted. "If there is a direct connection to the selling of sex that does not present itself in a public way then it would be legal. But if it is done so in a way that is perceived as public or available to those under the age of 18 it would be illegal," he replied. Justice Department officials corrected the minister. They said prostitutes advertising their own services cannot be prosecuted under the new law.

My purchase was a cute blue baby doll from la senza thinking that when i got home that i could catch my hubby's eyes with it nope didn't work at all so now it sits in the back of the dresser drawer :(

Thank you deepstrut for a different perspective. You are correct that sometimes when people look in the wrong places to cure loneliness that they can come out feeling more lonely and empty than before they started and that some people blur the lines between reality and fantasy. This can happen not only with an SP but with anyone. At least with an SP there won't be extended drama should either happen. In these situations, it is on the person looking at the situation to know themselves and to determine what it is they need and want and if this might be an option to gain it or a potential risk. Some learning is about trial and error and some is about putting yourself in a safe supportive environment to gain knowledge. You don't learn how to do a job by trial and error, you learn in a classroom, through mentoring or job shadowing. You then take that knowledge into situations where you apply it and learn through action to improve it. Relationships are not completely trial and error. We talk to people who have been through it, we ask advice, we read articles and then we apply those in a learn to improve capacity. In your example of a kid who can't sing. Having the support of their mother believing in them is a huge thing but not the only thing. If the mother encourages practice and lessons they are gaining the knowledge and skill before stepping into other situations that require them to apply it. SP's are not here to rubber stamp especially if someone is looking to gain experience. They share their knowledge, provide direction and make suggestions in a safe supportive environment. There are many SP's and clients who have developed friendships and provide emotional support within the boundaries they set up. This says that for some people, this can be a good emotionally supportive outlet. Like everything, it's not for everyone and as you and others have said, take a hard look at what you want/need, risks, pros and cons and determine if it is the best course of action. For the record, when I comment in these threads, I am not trying to seduce anyone to visit me. I believe there is a world of potential and possibility out there that we should be open to. That we should see our sexual and intimate needs as self care and as important as other things and that we need to look within to determine what works and doesn't work for us and to ignore those who may or may not agree with us. The world is full of differing perspectives, thoughts, biases, morals, labels, triggers etc. We are responsible for ourselves and should feel no guilt in taking care of ourselves if no others are harmed. Different perspectives are valuable as they give us ideas and thoughts and hopefully give us more options than we had before.

And if all that tells you to make contact, then take the time to talk to the sp. Not endless emails or texts with long stories of what your fantasy is, but a short chat to find out a little about her personality. Takes 5 minutes of your time, and may be the difference between a good time and a mistake. Every time i have read a bad review, i would go and look at the ad (in the days of CL erotic ads) and shake my head as if to say, well, what did you really expect. If it were me, they would have lost me at the ad itself, the presentation, the spelling, the wild symbols, and text spelling, and what seems like a million other things, including one line, phone # and 5 pics being the total of the ad lol., Sps who care about their business, care about how they present themselves from the minute their title catches your eye to the end of the ad. That's why we are so miffed when people call and they didn't take the time to read all the way to the end of the ad, the part with all the important info they are now calling to ask us.

I was recently in Kitchener and I walked by Lotus Spa at 991 King Street East. I was intrigued as I had never seen this place before; it must be new. There were two ladies available; both ladies were really cute, pretty and petite. Luckily, I did not have to do "eeny meeny miny moe" because it would have been hard to decide. One of the ladies took me to the room. I cannot remember the name of the lady but she did a great massage, had the body of a goddess and she gave me some great extras. The only funny part was that the shower had only cold water. LOL. Maybe it was a plumbing problem. The important thing is that my plumbing did not have any problems if you know what I mean (Nudge, nudge. Wink wink. Say no more.) As I was getting dressed, both ladies came back into the room and suggested that I try a duo next time. Definitely next time. I hope that I will have the stamina.

It's warm tonight and it got me thinking of what activities I plan on doing this Summer. I plan to: 1. Have a number of wonderful encounters with some gents, females and couples 2. Hit the strip club with friends 3. Do a few private tours/possible personal travel (may be) 4. Have a huge family reunion (first big one in over a decade, my Mom's side) 5. BBQ 6. Swim in the new pool I bought 7. Fireworks 8. Buskers 9. Go camping 10. Have a blast!! That's all I can think of for now but I am spontaneous and you just never know what each day will bring! What plans do you all have for the Summer? Kisses, Lexy

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@ Suite Escapes the toppings sound extra delicious :-) Never tried with Avocado. Simple dinz tonight, Spaghetti and salad. Jas.

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Or Ottawatonians are just more open and unashamed of partaking in this lifestyle, and willing to share, well except the transplanted Ottawatonians ones like Peter MacKay who thinks sex is dirty and should be kept in the shadows RG

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1 Surgery on Wednesday. 2 My boys finish school this week so they r coming to the city on sunday for two weeks. 3 Take my boys fishing for the first time. 4 take a trip to pei to visit some friends 5 When in PEI go to the drive in theater 6 Go Whale watching Im sure ill think of more later

Thunder Bay is pretty small place compared to Ottawa and the National Capital Region. Another factor is the presence of competing forums, some areas have many active forums, others only the two majors. Also, a lot of "activity" is invisible, there are many many lurkers.

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I believe cerb-Ottawa was already quite busy before the socials started happening - I think the socials are a result of the strong community here. This lifestyle (i.e. the positive 'cerb' attitude) may also be a rather difficult one to market effectively. Having attempted to get valuable/thoughtful info on one or two other 'erb boards I find that cerb is the best.

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Its interesting to see how everyone is approaching this from their own perspective with very little being asked of the OP in terms of his motivation. The question was is this a good way to cope with loneliness. We have gone down the road of is this a good place to learn to be with women, is it a negative act in society, and are the relationships real. Ill address each with my own opinion, fully expecting that each comment will hit a nerve. Are the relationships real and mutually fulfilling. Yes they are fulfilling in that the guy gets a service and the lady gets paid. Making the assumption that the lady is doing this for her own physical pleasure is a significant leap. I have known a few SP's as friends over the years, and I can tell you for 99% of the guys they see its about what they are willing to do, not what they are wanting to do. Do I think its all oooh's and aaaah's? absolutely I do.... What is the criteria we are using to think that its a real connection? Has she tossed the financial arrangement out the window and started seeing you for free? I think in an industry based on providing a fantasy for money its safer to assume that the connection is that, just fantasy. In most cases from the the lady is just hoping to not have a negative disrespectful experience. She certainly isn't excited. There are those rare exceptions but we should advise based on the likely outcome not the rare chance. I stand by my original statements. If you are deeply lonely, the likelihood of you finding anything other than a band-aid is slim. Very few of the ladies see themselves as mental health coaches, and none should make the dangerous proclamation that they provide that service. They provide a level of physical intimacy as a business, and in return they are well compensated. Without knowing the OP all I can say is that you need to seek the source of your loneliness. If you feel generally okay with yourself and are lacking the time or social circle to engage in a relationship that fills your intimate needs, then go have some fun. If you find yourself feeling alone and generally unhappy, you need to find out what causes that before you slap a band-aid on it, as it can be a very addictive hobby. As for choosing a provider, if you want the outcome that is being suggested by the other contributors, you should seek a more mature provider, and someone who is very active on CERB in her communication not just one line ads. If ladies are banned from CERB as you mentioned there is likely a reason that will be detrimental to your experience. If you are looking for a connection don't seek the hottest 20 year old SP, seek someone who offers more than just the longest menu. Again, don't just leap in assuming you won't hit bottom.

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You can talk to sps in ways that you can't talk to people you know, friends, families, acquaintences, coworkers, or people you meet when picking up groceries or coffee. It has the benefits of non judgmental time with someone who isn't going to see you day by day going about your life, and you are also reassured that what you say to them is confidential. As therapy it is costly, but it also includes intimacy which is also beneficial. You wouldn't be getting touched with regular therapy, and touch is also very healing. Some clients only come for conversation and touching, and no release not even nudity.

There is NO desperation in self care. If you were ill, you'd see a doctor. If you hurt yourself a physiotherapist or chiropractor, if you had things in your head you couldn't sort out alone, a psychologist or psychiatrist. these are all forms of self care. Sex and intimacy and the need for it as well as the desire to be better, is all self care. I find it interesting science and society can admit that sex and intimacy are important to our well being but then put moral limits on obtaining it. There are many clients who choose this route because it fits better within their own lives and restrictions. Some don't want the entanglements of a relationship or because of their job or career focus, don't have the time and believe it's unfair to date. They still want sex and intimacy just in a different way. There is nothing desperate about logical, well thought out choices. Plus...what MightyPen said because he's right some sexy smart.

That's not an uncommon view ("I'd never PAY for it!") but it's based in a ridiculous, shallow, and outdated view of human relations. You don't have to answer to such narrow-minded people, when you've already made your mind up for yourself. From what you've described, you have some concerns about your interactions with women and you'd like to learn. You've made a perfectly reasonable decision to do something about that, in a way you can control. That's not desperate -- it's insightful, positive, and action-oriented. Carry on forward! I think you've probably had a chance by now to look around this site and see that people here are actually pretty cool and normal. Intelligent, thoughtful, and caring. Compare that evidence of your own eyes with the cliché judgments of others regarding sex workers and their clients. You have better information that them. So make a decision for yourself, know why you're taking the action you are, and proceed... and damn the nay-sayers.

I don't fault your friend for trying to look out for you (as she understands it). But she seems to have the cliché, streetwalker view of SPs. That is NOT what you're looking for, and that's why I suggest you start with an SP from CERB. I think that offers the best chance to find someone responsible and caring. Legalities aren't much of an issue (for now...). Check out the legal threads for specifics, as there's a change of law possible which MAY soon alter the legal landscape regarding prostitution in Canada. STIs are a manageable risk; there are threads here for that too. Finally... you aren't required to provide a complete sexual resume to all your future partners (nor they to you). We all get to choose what to share from our past. There's no shame in what you're planning, but it will be your call whether, and how, to deal with that and a future partner when the time comes. Don't let some hypothetical future partner's possible prudery* keep you from taking positive action for yourself, today. * alliteration -- it's fun!

Thanks folks. A friend of mine that I confide it is totally against me doing this. She worries about STIs, legalities, and also about how I'd explain to a future/potential partner that I once sought the services of an SP.

Carlosage, I most definitely believe it can but it honestly depends on how YOU approach the situation. If you're up front, honest and willing to put yourself in the moment, learn and be open to suggestions then you will most definitely gain confidence and experience for dealing with women. There are a number of threads on CERB discussing this exact thing and there have been many men who have gained so much from their interactions with an SP which is a safe open environment to do so. Like anything in life, what you put in you can potentially get out. You have nothing to lose by trying and potentially everything to gain! Good Luck!

Well this bill has already been complicated by today's Supreme Court Of Canada decision http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=182967 And as I have argued already, police are going to focus their resources on street prostitution. It takes relatively few law enforcement "bucks" to get a lot of "bang" (ie arrests, convictions) whereas now requiring a warrant to access a internet users information from a Internet Service Provider needs a lot of investigative resources and information/evidence to show a court to get a warrant to access a user's information Would be a lot of bucks for very little bang Police departments are bureaucracies and like any other bureaucracies they are given budgets and spend it as they best see fit. My prediction is the focus will be on street prostitution And don't think, as much as MacKay et al are ideologically driven, that this decision won't be reflected in the final bill/law. RG

I think it can be... not as an end itself, but as a means of helping you to make other, more permanent change in your life that will make you less lonely. Loneliness comes from the absence of people who share in your life. It's not the absence of people -- you can be surrounded by people, even married to someone, and yet still be lonely because they're not truly sharing who you are and what you care about. So the question becomes -- how can you add such people to your life? That can be tough, especially if your experiences to this point have resigned you to your fate; if you don't believe you're capable of emotional intimacy, or you feel you've lost that capacity you once had. Time with an SP is only temporary and brief, but the effects can be long-term. Just spending some time with someone who can be intimate, who can be sexual, who can be focused on you and pay attention to your desires and your body... that's therapeutic. It can remind you that you're capable of that kind of intimacy, and of its importance to you. It can also teach you some lessons about handling yourself in intimate situations -- not just sexual, but in conversation and in interacting with someone in a caring and open way. If you've been afraid of such things the SP can help you overcome those fears. And then you can take those lessons and apply them to your non-SP interactions with people in other parts of your life. So... does a relationship with an SP fix loneliness? Not by itself. But it can be genuinely valuable in equipping you to overcome whatever obstacles are keeping you from finding someone, and which are leading to your loneliness in the first place. Don't look at time with an SP as just a brief respite from the symptoms of the problem -- look at it as a cure for the cause, if you're willing to take the opportunity to learn and then do some work.

People who don't know how to navigate traffic circles. C'mon folks, it's not brain surgery.

I'm going to say it. STUPIDITY. Especially this week. There are far too many people speaking from an opening that is not their mouth... and most of those are the doom and gloomers. Think of solutions. When you give up and publicly announce that there is no hope, you become part of the problem. So... if you have given up hope, please... ummm... shut the fuck up. Your "sky is falling" bullshit is NOT HELPING.

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This lady has the same phone number as Shaylynn. Two girls or the same? Different photos. Anyone know?

We can get massages with HE at Rona now?? Get wood and buy some wood all in one location

Bait and switch is such a pain in the arse, and then what gets me is do the ladies pulling this expect people to pay for someone they didn't pick ? and then you have thsi whole awkward moment where ( and hopefully this is an outcall to their residence or hotel ) but the scene it could cause you at your home/ neighborhood... i dunno , just bothers me, thanks for the tips. Tinyeye is very important cause if you find that pic being used as the pic for an add or many adds all over the country/world then chances are you're not getting what is advertised.... tinyeye has saved me many a horrible encounter... good luck to you all out there play safe and thanks again for the creator of this thread, tips like this and a little diligence can greatly minimize your risk !

I completely concur. In this day and age when we, at least in the west, have been bombarded with ads promoting soaps and other hygiene products, I find it absolutely incredible that men and women still wander about smelling like neanderthals. It's not that difficult. Shower. Anti-perspirant. Clean clothes. Repeat. If you have to give a shirt the "nose test" you are doing it wrong. CLEAN clothes. Same goes for the boxers, briefs, or thong. Wear it once. Put it in the laundry hamper and keep it there until it has been laundered. In a world where YMMV prevails, you sure as hell don't want to be left curbside when you have a Ferrari waiting for you. Stinky is not sexy... and that Ferrari wants to be driven by a sexy person. ;)