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There are only sex acts and people with particular preferences. If you identify as gay, awesome. If you don't, awesome. Sucking a dick doesn't make you gay. Whether or not a person identifies as gay is not a call others get to make.

I think that one thing to keep in mind is that most providers who ask for a reference also have alternative screening methods if a reference isn't possible. So it's not quite the roadblock some have made it out to be. I would also say that it is not the case that providers who ask for a reference are not also paying attention to tone, manner, wording, etc. I do not believe most SPs substitute a reference for their own impressions, so I find it odd that it's presented as though there's this dichotomy - either she uses her gut or gets a reference. A reference isn't an excuse not to think for yourself. I'm sure most girls know that. But as to why they would be requested at all, I think that a very good explanation has been given already for why travelling providers use them, but I would also point out that references can be very helpful to someone new to the industry. It's fine to say that we can go by our gut alone, but generally it takes some experience to hone our instinct. Instinct is not some magical talent that some people have, it's not a sixth sense. It is data gathering and pattern recognition most of the time. It takes time to gather enough data to start spotting patterns and figuring out what sounds like a time-waster and who sounds like bad news. We've all interacted with people all our lives so we don't come at this with no data. But for most girls this is still a new way of interacting with people so they need time to learn. In the meantime, references are a second opinion that can help you figure out if your impressions are correct or not. I know that some people are proponents of the school of hard-knocks, but I think in this business the knocks can be pretty hard. For those who are not so new that continue to ask for references, I would simply say why not, if it has always worked for them? For many gentleman, obviously, it is not seen a hoop to jump through so there is no particular reason for them to change a working model. And, as I mentioned, most will offer to screen by more old-school methods if a reference isn't available. But honestly, the whole debate about references only applies to providers who do advance bookings. I don't see how a provider who takes short-notice bookings could ever be expected to contact and hear back from a reference in time. So I think there are just as many valid arguments to be made for not using a reference. I don't think anyone should be judged for using references, as though they are failing to use their own good sense and are making clients jump through hoops, nor do I believe it's ever fair to insinuate that a provider who doesn't require them is being reckless. I also believe that there are reasons a provider would choose not to give references as a policy. I won't go into them in detail, some have been mentioned, but I don't think it's really necessary to defend. CERB is very positive and I love that things can be discussed and debated but I get a bit frustrated, or maybe dismayed, to see people put down for their preferred (and effective) methods of screening a client.

Are you serious! No girl is worth that-great attitude!Considering this is tax free- so now you are our accountants! I PAY TAXES and who says we get two clients a day for 5 days per week and how do you justify when anyones income is enough or appropriate-thats not for you to do or your business, this atttitude towards" a girls value" is beyond ridiculous not the rates. Did you forget we are human, have feelings, minds, personalities not just pieces of ass! Sorry but this is just my opinion but you are exactly the type of client I try very hard to avoid!! The men that are complaining about our rates do you do the same when you go to the grocery store, car dealer, clothing store, do you tell them their cars, food, ect aren't worth $$, lol I'm sure that would get you far. Believe me the girls that are seeing high volume at low cost come and go because they burn out faster and harder and are not interested -in most cases-as there always are exceptions- in providing a quality service it's more about gaining a lump sum of money.

I'm finding some of the Client-side responses in this thread to be amazing. In the last instance, on what basis does one "take a rough guess at what the majority of SPs would do". Does this come from handling the financials for a great number of SPs? IMHO making the assumption that most or any SPs do not file taxes is not a good assumption. Nor is making any assumptions on annual income. Earlier on in this thread there was a crack about SPs making 20 times the average wage. This is seriously "apples and oranges" in that the $10/hr wage earner is not paying rent for the business, is not paying the utilities, the taxes, the wholesale price of the goods being handled. Elsewhere in the thread is a very good description of what costs are incurred by the SP. So I guess I'm in the "I'm OK with that the SP charges" camp. Yes, there are some I would like to see that I cannot afford. There are also a lot charging in a price range I can afford. I can't afford a Mercedes but I'm not going use the term gouging to describe Mercedes price structure.

Well you should know it is very wrong to assume....you know the saying.... Each lady is different as is every man, what one wants for their time and what one is willing to pay will always vary. To insult those of us who charge more than $200 and hour is wrong, very wrong....Please grab yourself some maturity and learn to respect others - you may not like or agree what ladies charge, but in al honestly keep your comments to yourself. There is a price point for everyone, find your own and keep quiet about it. Its nice to know that you value the women you visit with for "Kicks"....I am curious as to what the women you spend time with think of you? Keep in mind, most of us run businesses, we have bills, families, education, sick parents, taxes, groceries and utilities to pay for....and dont forget the expenses of being a companion (ads, travel, hotels, incall location, etc) None of us are rich and for you to think that much makes me wonder what other SP stereotypes you believe as well.

What is there to say that hasn't already been said? Clearly, Christian is courageous and amazing for being willing to put himself out there and be open and honest about his experiences. I genuinely believe that the public is finally starting to see the sex industry as inherently equal to other industries, and the more that sentiment grows, the more likely we are to remove the legal restrictions and reduce moralistic criticism. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to my producers, the guys at the AllTalkTV.com Network, for being willing to produce the show for me. I'm sure that not every producer would give total creative control to an amateur host like me, but that's what they've done, and it's given me the freedom to have frank and honest discussions with all kinds of people in the business. From Terri-Jean Bedford (my very first guest) to Matt from ClubM4, as well as the lovely Cleo Catra and the courageous Christian, I'm really astounded with how well the people of the industry have represented themselves. :) It's no accident that CERB has been the primary source for interviewees, not just because of our openness, but because of our inherently-supportive community. The huge amount of praise for Christian's and Cleo's interviews has been 100% positive, and I have no doubt that this was part of what inspired Cleo and Christian to be honest in these segments. The knowledge that they would be supported likely made it easier to be themselves during the interviews, which is a critical aspect in our attempts to create an authentic and genuine representation of the business. I guess what I'm trying to say is this - while Cleo and Christian took the brave step of going public about their involvement in the industry, I doubt they would have been comfortable enough to even consider it without the whole CERB community ready to rally behind them. In a way, though they're the true stars of the show, it's the positive and supportive audience that really made it happen. :) Thanks for being awesome, CERB - this couldn't have happened without you.

""You feel you have been gouged! How can you say what it is that we should charge, that is for us to decide. We have to factor in the rising costs of everything else, such as living costs,power,gas,food, ect,ect. Do you have any idea the costs that go into hosting clients-laundry, supplies,beverages, snacks, wardrobe-the price of one pair of stockings is 20$+tax and alot of times they get picked or snagged so one pair per client-a nice lingerie outfit is over 100$ and most clients don't want us wearing the same one over and over-Shoes,lotions, towels, sheets and then the worth of our time-answering phones,emails,travelling, website costs-if you pay to have one built and maintained,advertising costs,,cosmetics,hair costs and abilities and talents! Exactly how can you really quantify there worth. Yet we do and I think more than fairly. In todays market 300hr is not outrageous, my gfe is 320 and believe me I feel I'm worth it. But to say we are gouging clients is more than insulting as none of us want to turn away or make it difficult for our clients by "gouging " them but we have to come out of this ahead or what is the point ?It isn't all about enjoyment we do run a business and there has to be profit. So I'm sorry to sound angry but when anyone tries to make us feel as though we are not worth our rates most of us will become angry. Do some research and look at the increase of other things then compare the increase in sp rates over the past decade alone, no comparison our rates have climbed very little and in my opinion not enough!I can't drive a bentley, it's my favorite car, can't afford one so I bought a cheaper, still luxurious car, but cheaper. I don't shop for new shoes as often as I used to , I go to the spa less often, buy food and other supplies on sale most off the time in this economy we all have to cut back on some things,especislly luxuries and treats but that doesn't mean they are not worth their cost.

They have cocks ;)

I pay taxes just for your info. and I know a good amount of other SP that does the same.

Deciphering the OP's question (with the help of other posts, I'm slow LOL), all I can say is a lady should charge what she feels her time and companionship is worth. It is not for anyone else to say whether her rates are too high. It is also inappropriate to imply ladies don't pay taxes, or are seeing x number of clients a day, or know how much they make net a year. A person's annual income is his/her business, and no one elses. If you find a lady's rates too high for your budget, then see another lady. Or if you wish to see a certain lady who's rates are higher, but you do wish to see her, save up your money for a few months and then schedule an encounter. Remember, this lifestyle is a luxery, not a necessity. Some even call it a hobby. If you can't afford to see a lady, then don't. But don't begrudge a lady her rates. They are for the lady, and the lady alone to determine My two cents. RG

Following Cleo's post earlier this month, i'm adding my voice as the other side of the equation (the client's side of course) on Nikki Thomas' show "Sex, Brains and Money". Enjoy!

I would like to add and define that a GFE massage is enthusiastic and non mechanical. It's about the tone of the session. It is not rushed and usually a slow sensual ride to a seamless and natural feeling ending. You feel cared about and pampered. These kind of encounters can lead to a great connection as well. ;)

perhaps instead of escorts for him personally.. a g/g show for everyone? that way only viewing instead of actual intercourse

Why yes spraycan....all of the girls make two hundred thousand dollars a year !! Tax free of course !! and in the same world you just proposed there.... pigs can fly.... I have been meeting with the same travelling ladies for pushing 3 years....and not one of them have changed their rates actually. I have had 5 wage increases since then. Have you gotten a wage increase spraycan ? We all get older, we all work towards retirement someday....do you think a better life and and better income is not equally important to an SP ? My opinion.

From the woman point of view I think they should care about what the bride to be thinks.... even if it is a bachelors party

Am I the only one that doesn't have a clue what that meant.

I'll have to respectfully disagree here. The lessons I've taken from my own experience are that sexuality is much, much more complicated than this. Most importantly: although a genetic test could certainly produce an objective, scientific verdict on someone's gender, that's a vastly different thing than that person's functional, sexual identity. Who's male and who's female? And break this down further to: a) what makes a person perceive themselves to be male or female, and b) what makes other people perceive that person to be male or female? And the answers to all of these questions is fluid, because it really is these --perceptions-- that matter most to us and affect our behaviour, and like all perceptions they're totally subjective. Our human minds aren't objectivity machines; our day to day existence is largely subjective, based on how we experience and interpret the world, and this includes our sexual identity and behaviour. There are experts far better versed on this subject than I am, so I won't presume to go into more detail. But to answer the OP's question: a cock is not a guy, and a guy is not a cock. Those things are often bound together into a single joint concept, but sometimes they're not. If I'm playing with the cock of a beautiful transgendered woman, I personally, subjectively, don't perceive that as a gay act; instead, I'm pleasing a wonderful woman who happens to have some fun, different sexual equipment. That said: I have to echo the comments of others by saying "what the hell would it matter?". Who really cares if my acts are gay or straight? They're just mine, and I'm quite happy with me. The pursuit of labels and categories seems designed to facilitate judgement, and that's not something we need any more of when it comes to sex between consenting adults.

I second cleo's comment-penises I love how they don't get us-it's cute their strength simplicity about alot of things how they appreciate our beauty-when we don't the fact that they are opposite their emotions really just about everything-except farting!

Hey there many-xes. :) A few points: (1) Labels. I really do see that you want to apply these labels not to inflict stigma or judgement, but because you simply feel they're accurate. I don't fault your motives, but do be careful; human experience is more complicated than dictionaries allow for. Plus, dictionaries are inherently limited, and the definitions they provide brief and superficial. I promise that if you consult professional sex researchers, they'll provide a much more complicated and nuanced set of definitions than the everyman's dictionary does. (2) Asexuality. Asexuality really is how quite a number of human beings are wired and live their lives. They're not sexually attracted to EITHER gender (but this doesn't preclude their full enjoyment of familiar, non-sexual intimacy). This has left them confused and sometimes ashamed, but more recently there's been some awareness and understanding emerging. Here's just one link on the subject from the excellent column of Andrew Sullivan (whose The Dish is awesome and I read every day): The Dish: Asexuality (one of many) (3) Complicated gender. I don't think you have accounted for the case I presented: a beautiful TG woman who still has male equipment. The genes say "male", so does the equipment. But everything else -- appearance, dress, mannerism, other body parts and proportions -- say female. Which is it? And why did you choose your answer? I'd have no trouble declaring myself gay if I thought that was the case. Whatever my nature is, I'll embrace it, revel in it (responsibly), and be proud. But for me, a cock attached to someone masculine has no sexual appeal at all; in fact, the idea is kind of repellent. (I actually consider that an unfortunate limitation on my part, but it's there and undeniable.) On the other hand, a cock on a pretty TG woman is a lot like a strapon worn by a sexy woman, but far far better because it actually works and the owner can feel what I'm doing to it. So how do we address these cases? Cock-equipped TG? Strapon-wearing woman? Which is male and which is female? And why? Last point: if you prefer to resort to genetics for the answer to those questions, then what if a guy receives awesome oral sex from a beautiful TG woman, and never finds out that she was genetically male? Was it still gay if I didn't know my partner was (in some respects) male? Why, or why not? If only genes and the fact that the partner had a cock made my sex with that partner "gay", then how can my knowledge, or lack of it, change that status? And yet, how can it NOT matter? See, it's what we perceive that defines us and our actions. Not what other people say, or a genetic test, or a dictionary. The disconnect in the latter case isn't on the part of the actors; it's the fault of the dictionary.

I have been biting my tongue to respond to this thread which is fraught with a lot of misinformation and ignorant comments. I am from Ottawa, not Winnipeg, but that has no bearing on what I'm about to say. To those of you who think our rates are out of control, unreasonable and that we have no business trying to equate ourselves with the rest of the economy because after all it's assumed none of us pay taxes and just lie on our back waiting for the phone to ring collecting our supposed easy money. For your information, most of us who have been around for awhile are actually charging the same or even less than we did 10 or 15 years ago. For example in 2002, my half hour rate was $150. It is currently $130 and when I run a special, it is $120. A 7 day insertion for a 4 line ad in Ottawa Sun newspaper cost $45. in 1998. The same ad costs $176. in 2012. So some of us have actually not given ourselves a raise in quite a long time and are actually making less. And I have to be available 12 hours a day to try and meet my my minimum daily quota (in my case I am a low volume provider so that is two, half hour calls or a one hour call per day) because there is more competition. So, for all intents and purposes, we are having to work longer to make less. That's all I have to say about that.

Daty should never be expected in a sensual massage experience. A GFE massage should be interpreted as a non mechanical encounter within a sensual setting. I suppose it may vary from one masseuse to another,but should not be expected as it ventures into the grey area between an MA and Sp. It's up to the lady and should remain private between two consenting adults.

If DATY was to be offered then it would change the tyoe of service, then you are not an MA but rather an SP...

I have put a $10 on my crotch and laid on the floor near the steps and she came over me on her hands and knees to get it boy was that a great show. PS. Wait until her last dance before she puts her clothes back on. PPS. Keep your hands to yourself.

I've only ever seen one or two people actually put the bill in their mouths. Most just lay it over their lips, on their chest, or hand it to the girl as she approaches them on the stage.

Wow, a few come to mind. But this one for sure. Fight the Good Fight by Triumph Original Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ijugC_ahfo Remixed (Longer) Version: Read more: TRIUMPH - FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT LYRICS

I like to think that my guests visiting with me are coming for a relaxing escape and more than slam bam thank you mam kicks....Most people I have met visit with me for a mental and physical connection, hardly something id refer to as kicks. If you have met me, then your comment on what you wont pay over is a lie in regards to price. Why assume that young local girls wont be claiming anything? More and more ladies pay taxes and you'd probably be surprised if you knew how many actually did.

Yes, the ladies are rich being SP's and charging the rates they do. And the gentlemen must also be equally rich if not more so since they can afford to see ladies Some need a reality check. Remember, for the ladies this is their livelihood, their job, it pays their bills, raise a family, pays the rent etc etc etc. The ladies may make x number of dollars per hour. But they don't work 8 hours/day seven days a week, 365 days a year. And even if they do, so what, it is their business, not for anyone, especially prospective clients to question And for the gentlemen, if we can afford to see ladies, that must mean we must be filthy rich. For us this lifestyle is a luxery. The assumption must be then that after all our bills are paid, we have lots of money left over to see ladies...and we must be rich. Reality, for most of us, this lifestyle is done on disposable income. But as Emily put it "Well you should know it is very wrong to assume....you know the saying...." And really, no one should be concerned here about someone else's income, that is a private personal matter, not something for public disclosure My rambling RG

Yes I agree completely. And if there is one place where we should be able to express our sexuality without judgement, I would hope that it's this community. Porthos

Exactly! By no means do I want anyone to do something out of their comfort zone but I truly believe that experimentation should not be hindered by potential labels that may have a negative connotation falsely associated to them.

I will say don't do something just because someone else is doing it, do what will make you comfortable and happy. This time of year alot of providers offer specials as do alot of businesses. If what you charge and offer brings in the amount of clientele you desire then no need to be concerned, if it doesn't then perhaps it may be time to offer a new service or change your rates. But quite honestly I never worry about what others are doing, nor should you, as it tough enough to keep up with my own schedule .

I don't know about the rest of you...but the holiday season always gets me in a melancholy, bluesy type of frame of mind....I guess I'm just an incurable bumhug :p I figured I can't be the only one who gets this way around this time of year so I thought would start an upbeat thread to put a smile on peoples faces. We already have the highlights of the day thread....but I'm sure everyone has that one key moment in their lives that they can think back on and it never fails to make them smile....a moment you will take with you to your grave....Either something you accomplished, something that was done for you, an important person entering your life, the birth of a child etc, Here's mine: About a hundred years ago...when I was 19....I was walking home from work at something around 2:30-3am. It was a weeknight so the streets were more or less deserted. I lived within walking distance of my work. I was walking across the bridge (a very high bridge) to get to my place when I come across this drunken homeless person, climbing up onto the edge of the bridge. No one else was around and this person was completely oblivious of my presence, so they were clearly intending on jumping. Thankfully after about a half hour (may have been only a few minutes actually....but it sure as hell felt longer) I managed to talk this person down off the edge and I walked them back to a shelter. This was the first thing I ever did with my life that seemed to actually matter. Now the cynic in me tries to convince me that this person probably just went back the next night and finished the job. I honestly don't know. But I prefer to think that this was a life altering experience for the person and it changed their life around for the better. This was quite obviously that person's quintessential "rock bottom" moment. And after hitting rock bottom is there anywhere else to go but up? Maybe this person got cleaned up and went on to create a beautiful piece of art. Or maybe they fathered a child who will one day cure cancer. Or maybe they're just living an uninteresting, plain, normal, but healthy, and happy life.....which honestly....would be no less profound. Who knows? Anyway, that's the moment that never fails to bring a smile to my face when I think about it (as terrifying an experience as it was lol). So everyone....what was the highlight of your life? Additional Comments: And on a more "typical-of-me" note.....yeah I guess my first blowjob would have to be up there too :D

1) not everyone sees "2 customers" per day - there are slow times in this business just like any other 2) if a "customer" calls weekly (or more) that is their choice. they do not have the right to demand "cheaper" rates from everyone because of their frequent calling. 3) my rate is the same as what was charged here over ten years ago, and i have been told by hundreds that that "is too expensive!" 4) alot of the escorts are "new" to the sites - and are not "RICH' - for those that are, that's not the customers' concern or business anyway. 5) this being a "free country" the escorts are "free" to charge whatever they want and customers should not "haggle" or be abusive to those they "cannot afford" - a little maturity is much needed regarding this. Do people who "cannot afford" a lamborghini call the company and tell them what to charge? ...no...

I remember roughly 20 years ago when I first started seeing SP's, the going rates then were $200-$250 per hour. Todays rates are basically the same, $200-$300 per hour. Thus, I don't understand why the complaining about the rates now. I believe that SP's can charge what they want and I will always support that. If you guys don't agree with what an SP is charging, then just move on. I'm sure that your city is no different than any other city in that there is a range of services provided and rates. My two cents, MB

Bon matin messieurs Hope everyone had a great week end December already ... why not think about yourself before christmas and come relax your entire body ;) My schedule this week: Monday: 10am until 5:30pm Tuesday: 10 am until 3pm Wednesday: 10am until 3pm Thursday: 10am until 3pm and Friday I will be in Bells corner from 9am until 4pm Our session will include: -soapy shower together -body slides -lfk -lingerie -high heels -non rushed time and a lot of fun I can be reached at: 613-297-8984 or 613-274-7073 a bientot xoxox

This is extremely well put. The whole experience can be delightful, and sometimes kissing all over someone's body and hearing their noises and seeing their arousal is enough to arouse me! Penetrative sex is GREAT and quickies are fine depending on the situation, but there is soooo much more that can be done! Thanks for writing this, Berlin.

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I am loud and love to dirty talk!

My Two biggest highlites of my life was seeing the miracle of the birth of my son and daughter!

No arguments Meg. Labelling leads to stigmitizing. As long as the sexual activities are between consenting adults, and make you happy, why should anyone care. RG

At some point someone mentioned that it is appropriate for the gent to first ask the lady if it is ok to provide her name as a reference. This is extremely important! A few times I have been asked about mr x and did not know who it was. I meet people without ever knowing their cerb name or it could be someone I have only seen once a ling time ago....a discussion with me will jog my memory, otherwise, I will just say I don't remember you :)

I have been out of town for a few weeks and made Barb's one of my first stops when I got back. It was late on Wednesday and I arrived about midnight. I was happy to see the place busy. I didn't recognize too many dancers however. I had a few drinks and then the jet lag kicked in, so I went home. Properly rested, I came back on Saturday evening, about 6:30. Not nearly as busy, but there was Bridgette, Jenny, and Ariel. This is more my speed! Then Bridgette left, followed by Jenny. Note to self: Come well before 7!! I was afraid I would lose Ariel also... She did have plans, but we caught up for a while and had a great but short time. Then it was time for even Ariel to go. I was happy to see her and left in a good mood. Then it hit me: I had been to a strip club twice in 4 days and never had a dance! A first for me, but I am sure it will be corrected in short order... Barb's has become a place where I feel very comfortable and I am treated well by both the staff and the ladies. I guess after a hundred visits or so, it is finally paying off :)

Um... exactly how did you phrase the question? She might give him a pass for the night where strippers are concerned, but the idea of her soon-to-be-husband fucking someone else may be an entirely different kettle of fish. Or maybe not... but if you don't know, I'd advise checking :) And check with him, too. As far as getting dancers is concerned - you may be better to get in touch with the local SCs and see what they can do for you; they may well have packages available. Quite apart from anything else, it saves worrying about whether your bachelor is going to like the one person you choose, as he'll have plenty of hot ladies to choose from. If you're in Ottawa, ask them what their policy is on very drunk people showing up - I know BareFax got screwed over a while back for serving alcohol to an intoxicated person (as if that doesn't happen everywhere, all the time) and they were pretty strict on letting drunk people in for a while, although so were quite a few other places in the Market. Finally: you may struggle to get SPs to come out to bachelor parties. Lots of drunk guys, plus a girl or two who some may consider to be "up for it" on the basis of her profession... well, you can see how things could get bad, no? AFAIK many SPs completely refuse to do bachelor parties for precisely this reason; safety is a huge concern. I'm sure you and your friends are great people - but do you personally know everyone who's going to be there and how they'll behave?

While maybe not as conventionally attractive as some of the actresses here, I cannot get enough of Tilda Swinton.

My first experience was with an independent SP early in 2010 and it opened my eyes to the reality of this industry. It was good enough to ensure that I would come back. After three decades of being faithful to my wife and three years of celibacy when our physical relationship ended I stumbled onto CERB and carefully (oh, so carefully) selected a well reviewed, mature provider. She responded very quickly to my emails and I set up a meeting at an Ottawa hotel. I have to drive to Ottawa from where I work and when I was about 30 minutes away she sent a text message saying that she had to switch hotels. I didn't know Ottawa at all at the time and I didn't have a GPS or a smartphone so that almost scuppered the whole thing right there. I stopped at a mall to find a public telephone and a phone book (surprisingly hard to do these days) and was on my way again. Then, when I arrived and texted from my car in the parking lot, she responded by telling me that the elevator required a room card and she would come down to the lobby to meet me at 2 minutes before the hour. I went in at about 3 minutes before the hour and imagined that everyone at the front desk and in the lobby was staring at me for what seemed like an hour (but was probably more like 2 or 3 minutes). She arrived and I got into the elevator with her and another gentleman. This was the moment I was completely hooked. We didn't speak but the mischevious smile she kept secretly flashing my way was too much to bear. We got out at our floor and she signalled me to remain quiet until we got into the room. The door closed and I saw that the drapes were drawn, there were candles glowing and low music was playing. She turned to face me and gave me a warm, welcoming hug and kiss. She was very attractive and was wearing a simple, cute dress which was just very slightly shorter and tighter than you might expect to see in the afternoon in Ottawa. I am not model material but neither am I insecure about my appearance. She, however, was tanned and fit and a natural blond with beautiful blue eyes. I could see I was punching above my weight and it made me just a little bit more nervous. This was difficult to do because I was already about as nervous as a human being can be without passing out. I had booked for 2 hours because I knew that I would need some time to settle in and I didn't want to rush. We sat on the couch and I opened the wine I had brought with hands so shaky that at one point she stopped me, held my hands, and tried to reassure me. Finally we were at the point where I was most relaxed - chatting. I love to meet people, hear there stories, find common ground, find how their lives are different, exchange views. As we talked I relaxed a bit but was still too nervous to initiate anything. After 15-20 minutes she finally figured out that I was a bit stalled and thankfully took things into her own hands. While talking she had punctuated her sentences by touching my shoulder or leg but now she slid a bit closer, caressed the back of my neck and gave me a soft kiss. I had told her of my situation and all through the conversation I had imagined that she had a slightly bemused look playing across her face. Later she admitted that she had found my nervousness 'sweet' and 'endearing'. Thank goodness for that - I was expecting it to put her off. In any case, the kiss was enough of a wake-up call for me and the encounter entered its next phase. It is always difficult to guage how one comes across in bed with an SP. They always make it all about the client and we are 'always' excellent lovers. However, I could tell that I was occasionally awkward because I was so rusty. She never complained or even commented and the whole experience was wonderful. The session was alternately energetic and languid and I loved it. At the end of the 2 hours we were draped over each other on the bed sharing jokes and laughing while I caressed her body. Since I was enjoying myself so much and I was new to this I didn't notice I had gone overtime for 10 or 15 minutes. Luckily she was free and she didn't say a word until I noticed. I thanked her and went on my way a new man - with a new plan. I saw her a number of times until she retired about a year and a half later. I have had sessions since then which were more intense, more adventurous, sweeter, and sadly ones which were just terrible. However, this first one will stick with me.

Went tonight to AQ, first time. Started slow and disappointing, but ended up having a good time after meeting a couple, and having some fun with her. If you know what you're getting into its fine. Everyone there is friendly, the people who work there will help you, and security walks around. A few (sorry lots) creepy guys, but didn't have any trouble. Again, know what you're getting into, have patience (key) and its really just about having fun. Will definitely be going back. Also, I stayed on the top floor 99% of time its the best lit (hint).

I think you've posted this in the wrong place, Cato... it should be in the "first world problems" thread.... :)

The rain fell out of the night sky with a light tapping on the car's roof as I sat waiting. I looked at my watch. She was 20 minutes late. The car's windows were already fogging over, and I pulled the collar of my coat closer to ward off the fall chill. She never used to be late. Quite the contrary, in fact. She once was thrilled to see me. You could just tell. Once, she even texted me that I should come over early, whenever I was ready. And she pounced on me as soon as I came in the door. Knocking me off balance as we collapsed onto her hallway floor, her tongue probing my mouth, her fingers already nimbly plucking at my shirt buttons. By the time we finally made it to her bed, she was wow. Just wow. But that was a long time ago. I don't know when it changed, or why, but it had with time. The last time we met up, she was just going through the motions. I could see that her mind was already somewhere far away, that she was already thinking about something just over the horizon. And the last time I tried to see her, she didn't show up at all. Oh, she apologized profusely. But she told me that in a text and wouldn't take my call. I don't think she trusted her voice not to betray her real feelings. That's okay. I heard her actions speak louder and much more plainly than her words anyway. It was a late fall evening. The darkness was enshrouding me earlier and earlier every day. It was dark now, and she was leaving me too much time alone to think. I thought of the good old days, when it seemed like we could never get enough of each other. She made me feel like she was there for me and me alone. Yeah, I know that wasn't true. At least not in this silly business we're in. But I believed it then, in the deepest recesses of my heart. So many men, and so many of the ladies in this business think that this is all about simply fucking. You know, healthy exercise, something to put a spring in your step and a glow in your cheeks. Just sex. Nothing more. Don't get me wrong. I've rather grown partial to fucking. But for me, there's so much more. It's not just about fucking. I want to feel like I'm special. I need to feel wanted. I want to feel like I'm part of the human race, that I'm not an alien observer dropped onto this planet, trying to pass as normal. She used to do that for me, once. I felt alive in her arms. Whole. I looked at my watch. She's 45 minutes late now. I don't think she's going to show up. In an instant, my phone was in my hand, ready for me to type out a quick text. I looked down for a moment before tucking the phone back into my pocket. I don't think there's any point now. I don't think that she's ever going to make me feel special, ever again. I started my car, and the windows started to defog as the fans blew. I looked up at her apartment building. Years ago, a friend gave me some very good advice. It was to never feel sorry for what had passed, but feel joy for what you had the good fortune to have appreciated. And tomorrow, I'll move on, scan those ads. Read those reviews. Call a stranger. But tonight, I need to go home and get out of my nice clothes. I put my car in gear and drove away.

This is a very common thing with the ladies... Always looking for the "Reason" the business gets slow at times and always looking for answers as to why they get no shows and cancellation more at different times of the year. Most NO SHOWS can be stopped by screening your calls properly. Use the Caller ID and CALL BACK the number to verify it. Most guys will not pull a NO SHOW on someone without having the decency to call and properly cancel if you have their number. They know that come appointment time one very upset SP is going to give them a call asking WTF! It's not 100% but it sure helps for those who screen calls. It also makes the call a little more safer as that phone number is now a connection between the guy and the lady... I doubt someone dangerous is going to want to leave a number that can be traced back to them. Most of the ladies look for reasons when things are slow. I guess most of us do that when the business we are in takes a drop in sales/traffic/work load/etc.... You can spend a good portion of your day trying to figure this one out but it's not really worth the effort. It's WAY easier to just plan for these lows (Put some money aside for the slow periods) and just accept that this is part of EVERY business and it will happen. Stop stressing out and trying to point a finger at what you think is causing the slowness as your just going to convince yourself of something that is probably not correct. We have been tracking patterns in this industry since 1996 and the answer for this is... (Drum roll please)... It has no pattern EXCEPT for a few obvious LOW spots. 1) The end of Aug is SLOW every year! (Kids out of school, getting ready to go back to school, family summer vacations, etc...) This is the most popular summer weekend in the tourist industry!! 2) 1 week before and 1 week after Xmass (No need to explain this one right?) New years day too? NOT... 3) January/February for 2 weeks every year (We sum this up to winter blues and getting your credit card statements from Xmass! but we never know what two weeks it will be but for sure 2 weeks around this time it does drop... one year we did not see this and come April we saw a real low drop for 2 weeks and that was obvious weather patterns (Long winter/early spring ... warm winter/cold spring etc...) it does effect this business and you never know when this is coming exactly... so just put some cash aside for these times. 4) First nice weekend of spring (A lot of the ladies take this time off too) 5) Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentines, long weekends, really large sporting events (etc)... they also effect the business. The rest has NO identifiable pattern. You can try to blame it on the economy as a low economy brings more people into this business causing more competition and the overall amount of "Recreational money" the guys have gets a lot smaller so yes the economy does effect it but a low economy BUT it also brings more guys (New guys) in to the mix as well so it's not hit as hard as one would assume. Remember money and sex are the two big things couples fight about... When the economy drops and the money gets tight the stress levels go up, the fighting between couples goes up and the sex stops!! FACT OF LIFE... and I hate to admit it but that is good for this business for all you ladies!! When economy starts to get good again business will decrease a little at first! It's OPPOSITE of what everyone ASSUMES! As for NO SHOWS... This time of year it will obviously be higher. Kids are still home from school, Family vacations, relatives coming for visits, back to school shopping, etc.. etc... and all those people taking time OFF work for family vacations makes other people have to work more (Overtime to cover shifts, higher work loads, etc) it's all relevant.... A lot of LAST MINUTE things come up this time of the year for the "Family Man" and well... kids and family (for most people) come first so recreational visits take a back seat so stuff will get canceled more this time of year. Picture this... The guy is all ready to come see the lady he has chosen and the door bell rings and it's his brother or uncle or who knows who just "DROPS BY" for a visit... URH!? Probably with his annoying kids and wife... (Many of us have been in similar situations) This happens EVERY YEAR... Come September 17th (Or around that time) once the kids are back in school and the routine is back... things will pick up. Summer sucks as a lot more things can get in the way or throw a guys schedule off. Don't spend all your time looking for reasons why the business slows down.... it happens to EVERY PROVIDER & EVERY BUSINESS ... It can not be busy 100% of the time and it does take a little planning and anticipation.