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A recommendation should only be written if someone wants to "recommend" that particular provider. If there are things you don't like, then obviously you would not recommend them, hence no recommendation. If you want to review them and pick them apart, then go and do it on one of those "review" boards. Plain and simple but some of you just aren't getting it. If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all. And if you don't like a ladies messy apartment or dirty washroom or overlit room, then give her a cancellation fee and leave. Don't stay and follow through with the session and then bitch about it. Like how enjoyable is that supposed to be if you're not comfortable from the get go. And then to encourage others to share their "turn-offs", for what purpose? These situations are in the minority unless you are getting someone working out of a crack house or something which you might expect from someone advertising on a free site or a telephone chat line. I think this thread is going nowhere.

You know, seeing how this thread is dragging down, how about we don't go back to the original topic at all. Why are you so hell bent on finding out about unpleasant encounters (in yours or someone else's opinion) with SP's from this forum. Your last line (quoted above) should answer your query, very few of them did. Let it go, move on RG

I have been following this thread virtually from its inception, and have stayed out of it because I tend to not comment on topics where emotions and personal feelings have been hurt or people may have written things that because of the way they were written can be taken in various contexts. However, I do feel that I want to add my two cents worth. For me I am beginning to believe that I have been incredibly lucky with the encounters that I have arranged. I have not met a lady that I did not like, and I have met only ladies who went out of their way to provide a wonderful personal experience that demonstrated their interest in me and showed their professional pride in what she does. However, is that all luck? I do read a lot of forum contributions and far more than reccos, they are the things that cause me to make contacts. So maybe there is luck, but then there is also thought and "work and research". Maybe that is the more important factor. I LOVE the positivity that I generally find throughout Cerb postings. I find it awkward when negative connotations appear in public forums. I have not ever had cause to want to do this, but, if and ever I do find myself in an encounter that is not going well, or that did not include what I have come to consider common sense practices on hygiene, safety, personal interaction, then I hope that I would have enough courtesy to speak to the individual personally rather than bring it through this sort of a forum. I am and remain a committeed CERB member and have no interest at all in seeking out other review boards or avenues. Success breeds success. Well done to all of the members who have been so welcoming to me and to others for their contributions, their incredibly educational and informative pieces of writing, and for helping break all of those stereotypes that I came with only six months ago.

Hornet, I realize after that negative experience(s), it must have been frustrating, and I get where you are coming from, but I think you are just going about it totally the wrong way. In my opinion, it is not the right way because.. 1) Imagine the girl who did whatever turned you off, read this thread. She would feel like you are calling her out in front of everyone in this thread. I doubt she does the things that turn you off on purpose, but that is just what she is comfortable with, if you don't like it, you don't need to visit her again. I think that's the best way to handle this situation. 2) By calling her out in public, you not only hurt it when the girl reads this, but also you're hindering the "public impression" of the SP's around here. I know the girls here all all awesome possum, but to the new person or lurker of CERB, they may not visit an SP or even get into this hobby because of this thread, because they're given the false impression that some or many SP's are like this. 3) I don't really think it's fair to say SP's might have an STD. You are using a very extreme example. You again are giving the false impression that the SP's around here are carrying STD's, when this could be farther from the truth. Most of the girls here get checked I'm positive on a regular basis. It's not fair to them at all, to be hindering their business like this. It just seems as if you were frustrated and I get that, but I just think you are going about it totally the wrong way. I realize sometimes reco's aren't always true. But to be honest, I have stopped using them. I learned that the hard way, but I didn't go about trashing the girls in the public forum. I realized I can't change the way girls act, but I can change which girls I see. I hardly ever even look in the reco section now. If I see a girl, that I might be interested in, I just start talking to her via PM, e-mail, etc. I'm really picky in who I see (I only see one girl now, lol). But just by communicating over PM, e-mail, chat, etc., I get a feeling you can paint a mental picture of the girl. And by painting a mental picture, I don't mean looks, but just their attitudes, personality, and how you'll be treated in their location. And it's worked. It seems like you want things to be better for you, which I get. But in reality it seems indirectly you are degrading the other SP's, which really wasn't the whole point I think you were trying to get, but sadly that is what this thread has done.

I think, Hornet, you should have quit while you were ahead. ONE unsatisfactory experience and now you are painting us all with the same brush? I stand by my opinion that you would have gotten a lot further discussing this with the person involved and not airing your dirty laundry for all to see. Have a nice trip.

My two favorite locations for meeting with SP's have been once when in their own home and the other in my home. In both situations it provided for a more comfortable, relaxed environment, and that was for both of us I believe. I consider it a great compliment that an SP would share her personal space with me. To me it demonstrates trust and a willingness to share at least a little about themsleves. That is not something to be taken lightly. That is also a compliment in reverse when I would invite a lady to my home. As has been written about in many threads, many men and women enjoy not only the sexuality that is involved in an encounter but also that "personal connection", however that may be defined. Seeing a persons home conciously or unconciously reveals little bits about the person themselves, and I love these little bits. Whether it be a painting, a coffee table book, a color scheme, or some other nebulous thing, it expands the GFE to a whole new level. No hotel room, no matter how upscale it might be can duplicate that. So for those SP's who use their own personal space as an incall location I know that I enjoy being in their "presence" in that way and it adds the whole new dimension that reminds me that we are both people first, with interests lives and hobbies outside of the industry, and that we are not merely actors and role players in a game. Just one perspective.

It should be emphasized that cerb is a recommendation board NOT a review board. Everyone has known that since day one when they registered. There are many other sites that will offer what you are looking for if you can't find it here. To write something negative would go against the whole purpose of a recommendation board so why fight it? It's the premise of this site. Reviews as oppposed to recommendations implies something entirely different. I would also like to add that just because the recos here are positive does not necessarily mean that all the reviews on other sites speak the entire truth. There are definitely shills happening elsewhere along with bashing SPs and people almost take it as gospel. Not always. It's almost as if there is a SP v.s. hobbyist mentality beginning to transpire and that's not something I want to be a part of which is why I'm a member here. And for the record, I'm not a big fan of recos or reviews. I really couldn't care less. I'm assuming it was never the Mod's intention to start another review board since there are others available and wanted something different that would appeal to others. For those who think it's too rosy because they can't write anything negative ( yet you're still here) then you know where the door is. Sorry had to say it.

Hmmmm. Things that turn me off when seeing an SP. Chainsaws. Chainsaws are bad. Big hairy men in the living room. Big hairy men are a bit of a turn off. Big hairy men carrying chainsaws are bad too. Evidence of ritual sacrifice. Especially when a big hairy man is wearing some sort of talisman and is eyeing me as "next." Rabid house pets. Oranges. They scare me. I have no reason to fear them, but they scare me. Celine Dion posters. Hobbit feet. If you have abnormally large hairy feet, please let me know before the appointment. Anything stored in formaldehyde. The undead. "Mein Kampf" Bottles of horse tranquilizers. A supply of body bags. Barry Manilow CDs. Livestock.

I love it when my pets show me un-requested affection :)

I love it when someone I like offers me a foot rub!!

Exactly. Anyone can join cerb. Not everyone has the common sense or courtesy to be professional.

In light of needing to lift my spirits these days, I thought this would be a good thread to start. Basically, the way this will work is that everyone will post something they like about the person who posts before them. Even if you don't know the person, maybe a good suggestion is to look through their photos/posts or even commment on the very post before yours. Hopefully this thread will be ever-lasting and people will feel the ongoing love from their CERBies! Love and care for yourselves. Xo Sky

I have been a closet smoker. I kept it very well hidden ( at least I think I did) hehe. I never smoked in my residence and also made sure that when I had a guest over, they would never smell it off me. I know have 4 days in and am going strong! I thought it would be nice to have some what of a support group. So am challenging any of you who smoke to quit with me! Also helpful advice from you who have already kicked the nasty habit. I have been using the nicorete puffer inhaler and gum, as I think it would be hard to wear the patch, for certain reasons ;) Looking forward to your insight and advice. Hoping for you to join me! Love Always Carley xox

I think that invisible sign that you have is called CHARISMA. It comes in all forms and in all sizes. You could have the most beautiful person in the room beside you but if they lack charisma, the beauty is gone to waste. You get stares because you exude something that people want... they want to be near you, they want to be with you. It has little or nothing to do with what you do, what you wear or your surroundings. We all know a person or two that just draw people about them. You can't explain it... but there it is. It's not a bad thing... don't fight it!!

Although convenient, what a mood killer that would be.lol. I've had clients send me email money transfers but to actually get a debit machine like Fortunateone said would mean registering for a business license and everything else that comes with it. It's not a necessity in our business when there are cash machines everywhere and this is one business where you would not want to leave a papertrail.

I don't know about the others, but I'm not debating the idea that recos alone on here should be the only info. What I'm saying is, if there's something about an experience that didn't sit well and you want to provide feedback, do it in person, not on a thread on a board that she may not even read. Feedback is best given in person, if you genuinely want the person to take it into consideration.

I just went saw her LOL Pm me if you want details!!!

I like WC cause I he always makes me smile. When I see his name, I always read his comments

I love it when you take an airplane to a tropical destination from Canadian winter and that first feel of heat and humidity as you step off the plane.

I love the smell of a steak being sizzled on the bbq on a hot summer day with an ice cold beer. Oh, and having suntan oil rubbed on my back.

In my experience over the years here on CERB, there's as much B&S here as anywhere. Bought and paid for 'recos' devalue any real recos. people may write. My example is that of a 2-faced liar taking money for video services and never delivering on the videos despite her repeatedly saying she would after coming back to Ottawa several times since - yet anyone says anything about such things and they are 'not a good CERB community member', as there are cliques here on CERB who do not like being exposed for playing by a different set of rules that others follow. Regardless, people who act like this degrade the whole industry for everyone, and if others would rather just turn a blind eye to this type of behaviour for the sake of 'that's not nice to say on CERB the bad things people do', rather than learn the Truth - then, in my opinion, it does a disservice to us all, and very unfortunate. It does not give people confidence to much anyone says here sometimes when such protection and denial happens - ex: the thread about the guy and girl trying to profit off the plight of Aboriginal people by trying to fanaggle millions in water contracts, where many people whined about how it makes their industry look bad to talk about such evil, while ignoring the fact some Aboriginal groups live in 3rd World conditions due to such selfish greed from people like Carson and his floozie. Oh, but as long as the industry looks good, who cares about safe drinking for Canadians eh? So my rhetorical question is: Since when did being honest become so bad? The truth shall set people free! Thanks for the rant :) ...and of course, always play safe!

Rory Gallagher of Bullfrog Blues fame?

I love it when you clean your house and find a stash of money you forgot was hidden.

My confidence in this forum is only strengthened by the intelligent, heartfelt opinions and advice the ladies have expressed here. Posted via Mobile Device

I continue reading this thread, and frankly it's beginning to drag me down. I've been (hopefully) a contributing member of this board since Feb 2010, and I've had three less than stellar encounters (with non-CERB ladies) But I don't focus on those encounters, it's the great encounters I've had with ladies who btw, I saw through CERB and the encounters I've scheduled, and am looking forward to. I really don't know what your hoping to achieve. One bad experience, according to you, has caused you to start this thread. There are a lot of great ladies out there, a lot more than the poor ones. And I'm sure the ladies have had their share of bad encounters with some guys. If you want to find a board to post your negative review, there are some out there (and I've been on a couple of them) but this board isn't it. And no matter what board you are on, any and all recos/reviews are subjective, one person's experience, that is all. According to you, one bad experience with a lady from CERB, move on. If it's bothering you this much, stop seeing ladies, or join another board. No matter who you see, no matter what board, it still is ultimately the equivalent of a blind date. BTW I'd love to hear her side of the story. She probably doesn't even know of any problem or complaint, since likely you haven't shared with her, just the rest of us My morning rant over RG

You know your old when your leather is older than your lover.

No one is saying you should have to put with a messy or unappealing in-call, but if it bothered you that much, you should have left. Sorry, I don't buy that, I'm a nice guy so I don't want to say anything to offend that person. To me that is someone who is not being honest and starting a thread like this is passive-aggressive. What I believe you are really saying is, if I tell that person what I think, they may disagree with me, or get upset or angry and I don't want to deal with that. You are more worried about your uncomfortableness, not hers. That's what I see.

I love it when you're in your thirties and you still get carded at the LCBO. That made my day!

I saw Cleo for the first time a couple of weeks ago. For me, our encounter was about as spontaneous as it gets. It was less than two days from my first comments on her profile page to her greeting me at her apartment door. Normally it takes me at least a week or even months to build up to that first encounter, but not this time. There was something about those album pictures and her playful online persona that prompted me to PM her for an appointment as soon as I got up that morning two weeks ago... and am I ever glad I did! As usual I was a bit nervous when I first entered her apartment. A quick kiss and a hug helped with that, and then she led me to her couch. I looked around, surprised that there were no cats or mountains of baked goods in the kitchen. We chatted to get to know each other a little better and we kissed again, but this time more deeply and for much longer. Cleo likes to kiss and it shows. She's a great kisser. :makeout: It was time to move to "the bedroom" (it was a studio apartment). Cleo quickly dispensed of all her clothes except for her panties. I was left scrambling to catch up (no Chippendales audition for me after that performance :icon_razz:). Our time in her bed was everything I had hoped for. Cleo is a skilled lover who has a lovely body to explore. In all honesty, I don't have a tattoo fetish, but her body art did not bother or distract me in the least. Cleo has a most kissable body and is very responsive and tasty everywhere. DATY by itself is enough to entice me to repeat with her. But yet, there is so much more to enjoy. Beside being multi-orgasmic, she also remains deliciously wet from first taste to final thrust and withdrawal. Others have commented favorably on Cleo's oral skills and I wholeheartedly agree. She knows her way around a man's anatomy and her technique is so good that I was sure she had a tongue stud (which she doesn't). After we primed each other's equipment, we proceeded to the main event. I let Cleo pick the first position and so we began with reverse cowgirl. What an excellent choice! Although I dearly wanted to watch her beautiful breasts bounce in front of me, the movement of her behind as she ground her pelvis into me was incredible. I encouraged her to treat me like her Sybian and I think she did. I highly recommend this position when you are with Cleo. We progressed to a couple of variations of doggie and then missionary, where finally I could kiss her again and see the erotic motion of her breasts following my pelvic rhythm. My undoing came when I hiked her legs over my shoulders and she purred "yes" this is what she wanted. Thank you Cleo. I had a fantastic time with you. Can't wait to wake up again one morning with an impulse to send you a naughty PM, so we can start over from the beginning... likely with a slightly different script, but I'm sure with the same great ending. :hump: Bewlay

Stuff the dress. Look who's in it!!!!

Well... I'd really be inclined to say that your incall should be whatever you want it to be. It should really reflect *you*, or at least the image of yourself that you wish to project. Whether that's something comfortable and homely, or an exotic venue for outrageous sexcapades, or something else entirely is your call. Whatever you choose, you may rest assured that some of us will love it and some of us won't. We're irritating like that, and so your best bet is probably to do whatever *you* are happy with :)

No, we won't come to any conclusions about your job based on that. We'll simply come to the conclusion that you're hot, and rapidly look the other way in the vain hope that our SOs didn't notice us getting an eyeful. Never works, alas...

Agree, and that's why this thread might help you ladies find out about those things that might be a turn-off for us guys. And as Megan mentioned, the majority of those turn-off are common sense, but it seems that some SPs are still doing it, for which ever reason. At least those that are willing to improve, can find this thread informative. Cheers, H. Additional Comments:

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Because the way you phrased the opening post, it wasn't about what you like and don't like, it was specifically about what you don't like, thus focussing on the negative. I'll be honest: I've never learned anything useful from a business perspective from these threads on CERB. From these threads, you get two kinds of information: 1) Common Sense. I don't need hobbiests to tell me that they don't like a cluttered incall, dirty bathroom, or an SP/MA who talks on the phone throughout the appointment. This is common sense. 2) Subjective preferences. This is not useful information to me from a business perspective. What one person likes, another person dislikes. I don't conform myself to what my clients want, but rather I select clients who enjoy what I enjoy offering. I learn how to run my business using my own brain, and feedback from real clients who fill out my screening questionnaire where I ask them what kind of experience they are looking for, and from their visits. Random threads on CERB are not helpful to me. When seeking advice for my business, I don't generally ask hobbiests but I ask other women in the industry. I get the most solid advice from them.

I believe an encounter should be mutual and both parties should have fun and be pleasured, just not one sided because you paid the lady. Just my opinion. Lexy

What if me and all of those ladies you mentioned were eating crackers in bed, together.... :D

Yesterday I had a rare opportunity. I was SilverThunder's first client - not of the day - ever. She just started doing massage based on a suggestion from her friend who is also in the business. I responded to her ad here on CERB. She responded promptly and answered my questions fully. We booked an hour. Knowing what I know now, I wish I could have had more (but had to run to a meeting). She was nervous - as is to be expected. She is such a sweetheart. Welcomed me in, made me feel comfortable, and proceeded to give me a GREAT massage. She is attentive, asks what you like, has strong hands and worked out the knots in my back. She can also hold a good conversation. The flip led to more ooos and ahhhs. She knows what she is doing and as is my measure of success, my toes were curling. I will certainly be back for more. SilverThunder is a sweetheart. She has a lovely smile, shiny black hair, a juicy body with as Monty Python would say, "great tracts of land" up above. She was very fun to play with and I hope to see her again very soon. Treat her well boys!

I think most of these things are common sense, but some choose not to follow it. It's not really anything we need to be "told" because we already know, some just choose not to follow it.

Name someone whose name rhymes with Chester P Schmearson? Love handles.

Ummm...does today finish with a "y"...yup, that's my day!! LOL

Doh! I just wanted to apologize to the ladies in mentioned in my previous post. I mentioned your names specifically because you're some of favourite ladies here on CERB and I didn't want to name any of the ladies that were bothered with this whole issue in case I offended them even further... I think, however, that in doing so I accidentally associated you with the issue and made it sound as though you were the ones on the defensive. Berlin, megforfun, Isabella Gia, Dorinda, Cleo Catra, Angel Starr... I'm really sorry for mentioning you ladies. You ladies are all so interesting, and intelligent - you never seem to post negative stuff - you just seem so gentle and fun and easy going. I really didn't mean to insinuate anything to the contrary, and I certainly don't believe it. I shouldn't have put anyone's names in that post - period. That was pretty lame. Again, I am really sorry, and I'll try to be more cognizant of things like that when I post in the future.

I don't get the need for any sort of registration for anyone who provides sexual services. Only rules and zoning for businesses of importance size need these If someone can work from home as a researcher, a painter, an accounter, why not a independent provider? If one opens a big place, the owner registers his buisiness, not his employees. Why would he? Do bars register their waitresses, likewise for the resto? Hell no! Why us then? Great idea, let's abolish the gun registry and create a sex worker one instead! If we don't register, harper can throw us in one of his new jails. Why should i do time in jail if I don't register? Are the construction workers sent to jail when they work without permits? Hell no! Are they valuable reasons for a permit to work in the construction business? yes! Is there one for escorting? I can't find one! We don't need to change the laws, we need to abolish them. Just like New Zealand.

For an outcall, which is most of the time for me, I provide a gift card to either LaSenza's or Victoria's Secret, plus the tip tucked away with the card. If the lady's website (or the lady herself) indicates a preference to another store, I would get a gift card for that store. For incalls, few and far between, in one case the gift card was tucked in with the envelope containing the donation, and I awkwardly fumbled the tip from my wallet at the end of our encounter. As for refreshments, since I mostly prefer an outcall, I have a bottle of wine (if white chilling, red room temp) plus some water and fruit juices in the hotel fridge...no matter what anything to be consumed is unopened...and I don't open except when the lady is present As a side note, I also have a bottle of unopened mouthwash in the bathroom, one lady I saw told me it was a very thoughtful thing to do RG

I love music and through a bit of recon I try to determine some ones taste and then I'll burn a cd of music she likes but also try to introduce artists she may not be familiar with. It's fun thing to do. Nothing too personal (flowers, lingerie etc) that may require an explanation to civilians. If I bring wine it's because I've discovered something interesting that is excellent value. I don't plan on it being opened and expect its a leave behind. But everyone is different. Peace Mr Green