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So a couple days ago, I was walking through the rideau centre and bumped into THE ex-girlfriend. Yes, not just an ex-girlfriend, THE ex-girlfriend. I've dated numerous girls in the past, but nothing was ever too serious with any of them, except THE ex-girlfriend. We dated for three years, which might not seem like a lot for some of you, but for me that's like a dating decade. I hadn't seen or heard from her in almost a full year, and we bumped into each other. There was some awkward talk.... HER: Well it was nice seeing you, we should catch up some time? ME: Sure, that sounds great! (I don't really mean this, it is just saying no, would be kinda awkward) HER: What you doing now? Want to grab some starbucks? My treat? ME (in my head): FUCK ME (in real life): Sorry, I would love too, but I'm actually headed out to grab lunch with someone. (I really was!) HER: Oh ok... ME: K, well I have to go, it was nice catching up with you! Most awkward conversation of life. Anyways, earlier this afternoon I got a text from her asking me if I wanted to meet up. First off, I didn't even know she still had my number, because I didn't have hers. And I had to decide what to do.... I turned on the PVR in my brain and rewinded back to how it ended..... ************************ I'll admit, this is the one girl that has left me heart broken. I use the word broken, because when we broke up, I actually felt physically broken. Like, I no longer was hungry, I'd sleep in & always go to work late, I was like a vampire and hated sunlight, would listen to Coldplay all day, and thought everything in the world sucked. Needless to say, I was being extremely over-dramatic, but at the time it did feel normal. Listening to sad music all day like Snow Patrol didn't help at all. I was sad, bitter, depressed, dejected, all rolled into one. I was so sad, almost like the sad you would see when you leave your apartment, and the dog keeps barking and is thinking... DOG: What are you doing? I don't understand! (yes, dogs have thoughts too!) I didn't understand the break up at all. We were so wonderful, happy, and in such a good place. We would be happy going to a fancy restaurant, we would be happy staying in, ordering pizza, and watching a movie, we would be happy just being together and laughing at all the stupid bullshit in the world. Immediately after the break-up, I would only think about the fun moments, I refused to remember the bad. The truth was there is always bad, by to my silly brain it didn't exist. I realized about 3-4 months after our break up, a better understanding of it all. That the sadness does go away. I can eat my food, I can hug & kiss without feeling guilty, that its ok to have a crush, and I that I can like someone else for a minute, a day, a month, or however long I want. I've come to the realization that love comes slowly, but your first love comes intense, emotional, and slippery, and that's the same way it'll exit... intense, emotional, and slippery. I realize there's no need to rush, and now when things don't work out (which happens often, lol), the end doesn't feel like a monumental clusterfuck. Look at me now, I'm me. I'm so much different a person then when I was dating her before. I don't fall so deeply in the puddle of BS like I used too, I'm more mature, and wiser. Hell, now I got a real job, I do big-person things like groceries, laundry, and pay my bills. I'm an adult!! ROAR!!! I'm free to see who I want, I'm allowed to think that girl at Starbucks is cute, I can have flings with friends, but I also know that the real thing does exist and will be there waiting for me regardless of how long I decide to take. Because why rush? ****************************************** So what did I text her back? I just told her no. I'm over with it. I was over with it before, and today confirmed it. The whole point of this post? Forget about silly people in the past, and be happy with yourself. You will get over it. You know why? Because you will be a better you. Just move on. *imaginary high five to anyone who has had their heart broken, because now we're all so much better*

Oh for gods sake. Not even half way thru this "UN" complaint, and we've already covered about 90% of the sp stereotypes of how they will ruin the lives of someone who posts a trash review/comment. All pretty much from one person here. And all because you are on a board where you can't name your enemy? And then i get to the part about how you also want to the right to post accusations about stds from sps. Well, heck, if you don't also present the proof of that, don't care where you post it, its slander. Then, the solution is pretty clear: go to these wonderfully fair boards (of which I know of NONE) and go do that right now and get this horrifying experience(S) off your chest there, instead of here.

I enjoy what I do, very much. I like the fact that in some situations you can develop a very strong bond, you become friends. I have been very lucky to meet some very fascinating people along the way. These are just a few of the things that make me enjoy begin an SP. I was just curious, as to, what your favourite part of visiting an SP is? Or for the ladies, what it is that you enjoy about begin an SP. Love Always Carley xox

Because the way you phrased the opening post, it wasn't about what you like and don't like, it was specifically about what you don't like, thus focussing on the negative. I'll be honest: I've never learned anything useful from a business perspective from these threads on CERB. From these threads, you get two kinds of information: 1) Common Sense. I don't need hobbiests to tell me that they don't like a cluttered incall, dirty bathroom, or an SP/MA who talks on the phone throughout the appointment. This is common sense. 2) Subjective preferences. This is not useful information to me from a business perspective. What one person likes, another person dislikes. I don't conform myself to what my clients want, but rather I select clients who enjoy what I enjoy offering. I learn how to run my business using my own brain, and feedback from real clients who fill out my screening questionnaire where I ask them what kind of experience they are looking for, and from their visits. Random threads on CERB are not helpful to me. When seeking advice for my business, I don't generally ask hobbiests but I ask other women in the industry. I get the most solid advice from them.

We have re-opened the "Best bums on the planet" thread. The council is split 50/50 on deciding what to do with these threads (Allow them or not) so the decision was left for us (The moderators) we have both mutually agreed to allow them as they bring good traffic to the site and many members contribute and enjoy these. Infractions/Suspension will be handed out for ... 1) Hijacking the threads (Anywhere on the site) 2) Posting anything negative (Anywhere on the site) 3) Posting any photo showing Genitals 4) Posting links to PORN sites (Please DO NOT pull photos from porn sites either) No exceptions for threads like this. If you do not like/enjoy these threads please DO NOT read them. We would also ask that if you post a providers photo here (Hotlinking it from another website) that you ask her for permission first.

You're old when you read George Orwell's book "1984" in high school and it was set in the future.

Every new encounter is quite unique, and its really enjoyable getting to know the person a bit during the pre-communication back and forth. Most of the ladies I have met are very, very attractive and sensuous women ... how can a guy not like that? I have met women with wonderful personalities, others with eyes of an angel, and legs and figures that I could look at endlessly. But most of all, there has to be a sense of connection, gained through communication, that makes things really special.

I like that each and every encounter, even repeat encounters are unique I like meeting new ladies, and the surprise of our first encounter The ladies enjoy what they do, and seem genuinely happy when we meet I enjoy the fact that yes, friendships do develop. I like that you can explore your sexuality judgement free And a big surprise, but you'd think with the way "mainstream society" portrays SP's, that I would have met at least one hooker, whore, prostitute, well I haven't met or seen even one. All I've met are ladies. Thats a few of my favorite things RG

First of all, I love meeting new people. The excitement of not knowing, will they like me? I also love the look on their faces as they leave that makes me smile inside and out! I love making my own hours and being my own boss! I love when my clients and I make a connection and have a special bond that is just ours. I also love when clients bring me "special" gifts. Not just chocolates and flowers but something special that they took the time to get or make just for me. That's just a few of the things that make my job so wonderful. Thank you to all "my" special guys out there! You know who you are hehe!

I post my real age, 26, but I still get carted every where I go, which is fine with me! I say, at least when Iam 40, I'll still look like Iam in my 20's or very early 30's! For me I guess it's because I still have that "baby face"!!

Not to hijack the thread, but I noticed that some ladies do not offer shower facilities or they charge an additional fee for this which I find surprising. I kind of figured offering shower facilities with clean towels and basic toiletries (light scented liquid shower soap, hand soap, mouthwash, spray deodorant) was the norm. That's the way I have always worked. Unless someone wants to take a 15 minute shower, I have no objections to letting the time go over a bit since I am low volume and do not book my calls back to back.

I take the starting of this thread as just another one where the guy wants to be negative about the lady in question, but not say anything to her privately. What do you gain from this? Some kind of personal satisfaction? Do you feel like "you wasted your money" so now its some kind of payback? And I'd also like to add, Don't assume things of people, especially Sp's! You said you dont know how she would react, maybe walk up to you in public and say something. We do not do things like that, nor would we reveal your private info unless you are a danger or threat to other Sp's, nor are we phyco bitches that have nothing better to do with our time than to try and ruin your name or livelihood. We are normal human being with feelings, emotions, a brain and families of our own! It actually make me very angry when someone says stuff about Sp's and what we are cappable of in a negative manner. There has already been threads about this, so I am not going to say much on this topic, but really dont judge US because of what we do for a living. If you dont feel comfortable with sending the Sp in question an email, then why do you feel comfortable with writing a public thread about it?? That just does not make any sense to me. No point in sugar coating it!!

No matter what board you are on, you are dealing with people that have "handles" be it the guys (like me, my real name isn't roamingguy) and the ladies, who have a stage name for lack of a better word. Really, people are very courageous in posting criticisms when they have the benefit of anonymity. But how many boards would even function if everyone's real name and contact info were posted, probably none at all. At least CERB doesn't allow bashing. And some of the other boards, well ones allowing criticisms, take those bashings somewhat critically too. One board, case in point, had one guy bashing a lady that he hadn't even seen, he just reported a third hand story that another guy told another guy told him (and I'm in disbelief of the "story" since I've had repeat encounters with this lady, and she is a great lady) Another board I was on, well I posted a reco of another lady I saw. Because I wouldn't post details of our encounter (what goes on behind closed doors stays behind closed doors) I ended up receiving a few ignorant and nasty pm's. But if you think you can create a better board, by all means go ahead, nothing is stopping you from starting one. But it seems when it comes to boards, they are either guys vs ladies or CERB which is more that we are opposite sides of the same coin and engaged in a mutually beneficial activity. And really, that first encounter with a lady I liken to a blind date, and there are no guarrantees no matter what And as a sidenote, while anyone can get on CERB, remember, not only does this apply to ladies, it applies to guys as well. Some longwinded ramblings RG

I have been a closet smoker. I kept it very well hidden ( at least I think I did) hehe. I never smoked in my residence and also made sure that when I had a guest over, they would never smell it off me. I know have 4 days in and am going strong! I thought it would be nice to have some what of a support group. So am challenging any of you who smoke to quit with me! Also helpful advice from you who have already kicked the nasty habit. I have been using the nicorete puffer inhaler and gum, as I think it would be hard to wear the patch, for certain reasons ;) Looking forward to your insight and advice. Hoping for you to join me! Love Always Carley xox

I smoke for 7 years and out grew it. Yuck.. Check out this Miss :) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=35108&highlight=Quitting+smoking

i like shortcake because she's such a sweetie n has that cute tattoo

Sorry but Jarry Park. The first and only bat day (full size) was mayhem and noisy in an all metaal stadium. Posted via Mobile Device

Good question Lexy :) , and what a wonderful answers so far ;) I know I am not a hobbiest, but I would agree with you guys. I think it is more a matter of who you click with! Age is just a number. As long as you have that attraction between two people, thats all you need ;)

I'm in. Today's my quit date. It's gonna be hard - I love smoking. But it's time.

Some more favs of mine The infatuating Carley Chase. I can't get enough Carley. The awesome and ultra-sexy Angel Starr: And someone I haven't met yet, but I'd love to, Miss Ashley from Winnipeg:

Carley, keep your determination to kick the dirty stinking expensive unhealthy habit. You will really feel better in the end by doing so.

All the best, Carley. Stay strong!

Carley if you have a cigarette I am going to send you a naked photo of myself. Trust me you don't want to see it. All the best.

I don't know about this shower thing; who would go out on a date without first taking a shower anyway, whether with an SP or GF??? It's not like SP's are dating street people, we all have access to a shower!!

A recommendation should only be written if someone wants to "recommend" that particular provider. If there are things you don't like, then obviously you would not recommend them, hence no recommendation. If you want to review them and pick them apart, then go and do it on one of those "review" boards. Plain and simple but some of you just aren't getting it. If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all. And if you don't like a ladies messy apartment or dirty washroom or overlit room, then give her a cancellation fee and leave. Don't stay and follow through with the session and then bitch about it. Like how enjoyable is that supposed to be if you're not comfortable from the get go. And then to encourage others to share their "turn-offs", for what purpose? These situations are in the minority unless you are getting someone working out of a crack house or something which you might expect from someone advertising on a free site or a telephone chat line. I think this thread is going nowhere.

Having been away from the board for a couple of weeks, returning to see this thread is a little surprising. Seems like we can't avoid diving into some controversy every now and again... :-) Hornet, I get that you're frustrated with an encounter (or encounters) that didn't meet your expectations, but I don't think it's fair to blame this on faulty recos. I would encourage you to re-examine your expectations...of both your encounters and what you find here on CERB. First off, the encounters: it is unfortunate when the reality of an encounter doesn't match up with the scenario we had playing around in our heads, but it is a reality of this hobby, and you should be careful about even assuming your encounter with an SP can be generalized to all encounters with that SP. As we so often say, Your Mileage May Vary, and that doesn't just apply to services, it applies to everything about the encounter. The lovely ladies we're seeing are not selling cars that come off an assembly line...and above all else, you need to remember that they are people, too, and everyone has a bad day at some point. I get paid for my job, too, but that doesn't mean that I perform the same way every day that I go to work. Most days my employer gets 10-12 extremely productive hours out of me, but every now and then they wind up with 6 hours of me socializing, surfing the internet, or making plans for the weekend. Please note that I'm not trying to make excuses for what sounds like a disappointing experience...I'm just encouraging you to accept it as something that does happen once in a while, rather than trying to turn it into a "lesson" for all SPs. As you've already seen on this thread, the SPs who put a great deal of effort into making sure that most of their clients' expectations are met aren't going to take too kindly to that kind of "lesson". Now, as for the recos here on CERB...of course they're not telling you the whole story. As the tag line says, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. That isn't a mantra designed to put all "truth" out on the table, it's a recognition of the fact that we, as a large collection of anonymous people, are not capable of sticking to "truth" when there are no controls put on us. When I first started hobbying about three years ago, I used some of the other boards as well, and quickly became frustrated with how often the threads dissolved into extremely negative and childish behaviour. The rules here prevent this board from becoming like that, but of course that comes at a cost. It means we as hobbyists need to be a little more careful about how we read the recos, and as someone else mentioned, we need to be able to read between the lines as well. But I'll gladly take that in order to maintain some sense of community here. Besides, it's not like those other boards aren't still around for you to make use of, if you really want to. As for the mod becoming the arbiter of recos, I think he'd be the first to tell you that he doesn't have that kind of time. What you suggest would require a large investment of resources, and you need to understand that CERB isn't the money-maker here...it's the board that is provided to us in concert with EC, and I'm pretty sure we already take enough of the mod's time as it is. :-) I hope my points above provide some perspective, particularly on why most of the other members are reacting to your comments and suggestions.

Can relate to every one of those Angela, except the 9 year old niece (don't have one) But to add, that rotary phone was on a party line too And if you went to the movies, you stood up at the beginning of the movie for the National Anthem RG

In my experience over the years here on CERB, there's as much B&S here as anywhere. Bought and paid for 'recos' devalue any real recos. people may write. My example is that of a 2-faced liar taking money for video services and never delivering on the videos despite her repeatedly saying she would after coming back to Ottawa several times since - yet anyone says anything about such things and they are 'not a good CERB community member', as there are cliques here on CERB who do not like being exposed for playing by a different set of rules that others follow. Regardless, people who act like this degrade the whole industry for everyone, and if others would rather just turn a blind eye to this type of behaviour for the sake of 'that's not nice to say on CERB the bad things people do', rather than learn the Truth - then, in my opinion, it does a disservice to us all, and very unfortunate. It does not give people confidence to much anyone says here sometimes when such protection and denial happens - ex: the thread about the guy and girl trying to profit off the plight of Aboriginal people by trying to fanaggle millions in water contracts, where many people whined about how it makes their industry look bad to talk about such evil, while ignoring the fact some Aboriginal groups live in 3rd World conditions due to such selfish greed from people like Carson and his floozie. Oh, but as long as the industry looks good, who cares about safe drinking for Canadians eh? So my rhetorical question is: Since when did being honest become so bad? The truth shall set people free! Thanks for the rant :) ...and of course, always play safe!

You know you're old when you get up from a chair and make the same groaning noises that your Dad did.

Hornet, I realize after that negative experience(s), it must have been frustrating, and I get where you are coming from, but I think you are just going about it totally the wrong way. In my opinion, it is not the right way because.. 1) Imagine the girl who did whatever turned you off, read this thread. She would feel like you are calling her out in front of everyone in this thread. I doubt she does the things that turn you off on purpose, but that is just what she is comfortable with, if you don't like it, you don't need to visit her again. I think that's the best way to handle this situation. 2) By calling her out in public, you not only hurt it when the girl reads this, but also you're hindering the "public impression" of the SP's around here. I know the girls here all all awesome possum, but to the new person or lurker of CERB, they may not visit an SP or even get into this hobby because of this thread, because they're given the false impression that some or many SP's are like this. 3) I don't really think it's fair to say SP's might have an STD. You are using a very extreme example. You again are giving the false impression that the SP's around here are carrying STD's, when this could be farther from the truth. Most of the girls here get checked I'm positive on a regular basis. It's not fair to them at all, to be hindering their business like this. It just seems as if you were frustrated and I get that, but I just think you are going about it totally the wrong way. I realize sometimes reco's aren't always true. But to be honest, I have stopped using them. I learned that the hard way, but I didn't go about trashing the girls in the public forum. I realized I can't change the way girls act, but I can change which girls I see. I hardly ever even look in the reco section now. If I see a girl, that I might be interested in, I just start talking to her via PM, e-mail, etc. I'm really picky in who I see (I only see one girl now, lol). But just by communicating over PM, e-mail, chat, etc., I get a feeling you can paint a mental picture of the girl. And by painting a mental picture, I don't mean looks, but just their attitudes, personality, and how you'll be treated in their location. And it's worked. It seems like you want things to be better for you, which I get. But in reality it seems indirectly you are degrading the other SP's, which really wasn't the whole point I think you were trying to get, but sadly that is what this thread has done.

I think, Hornet, you should have quit while you were ahead. ONE unsatisfactory experience and now you are painting us all with the same brush? I stand by my opinion that you would have gotten a lot further discussing this with the person involved and not airing your dirty laundry for all to see. Have a nice trip.

Wow - what a thread. Bottom line for me is that this board existed before me and will probably exist long beyond my participation. I knew the rules when I joined and I don't complain about them. If you don't like them, you don't need to stay. It's that simple. None of us (guys) is indispensable.

Couldn't agree more. However, what you're not listening to, is a group of successful business owners, like myself and the other girls in here, who are saying we DO this, but it's more effective by giving feedback directly to the business owners, rather than broadcasting it to current and potential customers.

I believe an encounter should be mutual and both parties should have fun and be pleasured, just not one sided because you paid the lady. Just my opinion. Lexy

Love your professionalism Meg, and wish more SPs are like you. But, there is a high risk involved here for the clients. If the lady in question runs a "bad" business like the one described, most likely she doesn't really care what the client thinks about her business. This means that she will probably be offended by my suggestions/comments. This might motivate her to do some nasty things. :) And as you know in this type of business discretion is an important thing. :) H. Posted via Mobile Device

I completely agree with this. Even if you found her on cerb, that doesn't mean the 'no negative' has to supercede everything. If something is wrong, tell her - just be polite. I understand completley that telling any lady, no matter how politely, that she had body odour/her house was a mess/she was rude, is not going to be fun. However, this IS the only way she may change these behaviours. And honestly, I personally think that every lady was probably well aware of these issues already, so a gentle, polite reminder may have kick-started her to finally do something about it. My bathroom at home is never that clean (my incall is spotless though!), because I was just lazy about it. A friend coming down the stairs and saying EW was all it took for me to get my butt up there and start scrubbing.

How about this decorating scheme? Seriously though, if it isn't your residence, then it should look lived in and comfortable. Enough furnature and a few pictures on the walls. Relatively clean. For the most part though I'm sure his eyes will be on you Lexy!

I agree with what you said but, the fact that this forum doesn't allow negative comments doesn't help us clients. Actually I find this "editing-concept" quite misleading as the negative ones get removed by the Mod very quickly. I am very diligent when it comes to choosing the right SP but I didn't find the Reco's useful in two "nightmare" cases that I mentioned. And yes, we can choose not to go back, but you still waisted your money by trusting Reco's showing only one side of the story. I wish there was a board more tailored to clients' needs then to SPs'. But I understand, many of SPs are the actual sponsors of this forum, so they make the rules :) Well, at least we can let SP know what we, the clients, like or don't which was the purpose of this thread. Hornet Cheers, Posted via Mobile Device Additional Comments:

I think most of these things are common sense, but some choose not to follow it. It's not really anything we need to be "told" because we already know, some just choose not to follow it.

Mister C you're something else:icon_redface:.

This is very good news! Thanks to all. Just to get us relaunched, and with her permission, JessicaMassage

Ummm...does today finish with a "y"...yup, that's my day!! LOL

I do both incall and outcall and in both cases prefer the lady to be fully clothed. What she chooses to wear can show you something of what she is like. I treat the encounter like a date and am fully clothed when I meet her at the door. So we might as well start off the same. Have some time at the beginning to talk, get to know someone if you have not met before or catchup with an old friend. Then you get to move to the unwrapping of each other part.:aol_makeout: Part of the greeting is a big hug and kiss after the door is closed. The initial greeting is very important and really sets the tone for the rest of the encounter.