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Dennis Ritchie has died. "Who was he?", I hear you ask. He was a key architect of the C programming language (40 years old, which is an eternity in the world of high-tech, and still used for a great many performance-critical applications). He was also a key player in the development of the UNIX operating system, which still runs a great many systems today. Its better-known modern variants include Linux, Android, and Apple's iOS and OS X and their successors. And most of us couldn't live without our smartphones. He's probably had more impact on our lives than Steve Jobs; but since what he worked on was the unglamorous guts of the machine rather than the bit you can see and touch, he'll never get the public recognition he deserves. But he probably wouldn't really have wanted it; like most people of his caliber, what really mattered to him was the respect of his peers rather than public adulation. #include <eulogy.h>

I'm really not entirely sure why people have an urge to redefine and reclaim everything. Spinner is simply a term referring to a very petite or tiny woman. Period. I don't think of it in terms of how many revolutions she would get on my small/average/equine cock. I don't think of it in terms of whether I experience whiplash as she passes. The gist is small, or tiny, and I get the point. It's not meant to imply that non-spinners are hideous or even mildly unattractive, it's just meant to convey a referential to body type. If you're not a spinner but turn heads, excellent. That doesn't make you more or less, even though you are not a "spinner". No need to "reclaim" or redefine. And as for inferring some intended slight from "almighty"... Seriously, people. It's. A. Frikken. Social. Group. Nobody is seriously trying to imply a "hierarchy," they are merely expressing a preference and predilection. I'm amazed at how much time is spent in these forums being offended by words, talking about words and pissing territorially about words.

I think it might be nice to wake up to someone's head between my legs...

I think that nearly all of us are feeling considerable relief after the recent turn of events. The SCC decision about Insite makes a favourable decision about Bedford far, far more likely, in the end. In addition, the inquiry into the missing women began this week here in Vancouver. While the thing is hideously flawed in most respects, the public in general is siding with the women and organizations that have decided not to appear at the inquiry because they wouldn't have the benefit of legal counsel to help them, or to cross-examine the many, many police witnesses. Right now, in Vancouver at least, my sense if that there's enormous sympathy for ensuring that women should be able to work safely. The evening news reports emphasized how street workers had made agreements with residents of the Downtown Eastside neighbourhoods where children were living that they wouldn't work on those streets, for the sake of the children and families there. The women would have been far safer if they had worked the residential streets; because they didn't, they were much easier prey for Picton and others. The whole tenor of the news reports was that SWs are hard-working women who care about families and who can be trusted to keep the promises they make. It's early yet, but so far, responses on open-line radio programs are favourable with the fear-mongers receiving very little airplay.

Price doesn't make me assume a woman is better in anywhich way, whether it be looks or ability or anything else. SPs set their own prices, so the price is just what she feels like getting paid or what price she finds generates the right amount of business for her. So it doesn't effect my expectations at all. My expectations for an SP would be based on how she describes herself as well how others describe her in recommendations. If she describes herself as being "upbeat" and "energetic", then I expect her to be those things. If a bunch of other hobbyists recommend her saying she is "sweet" and "shy", then that's what I will expect. The more specific an image she creates through her communication (and that others create for her through their recommendations) the more specific my expectations would be. The less specific an image she creates, the fewer expectations I would have when going to meet her.

I don't see the need to redefine spinner, as it is a term that has be in existence for a very long time. To your original post "Not a BBW, not quite a spinner.." maybe a new term could be created that most accurately defines this particular group.

Perhaps I am confused but while reading some threads here from time to time I noticed that some people have been chastised for "not being nice" when they have commented on another service provider.Has anyone read the posts by some senior members concerning my past indiscretion {concerning my pics},they were not being nice yet no one has chastised any of them.Also if we are going to be nice on this site shouldn't it carry over to all our posts elsewhere because in my world{some may think thats outter space}being nice is the act of a genuinely kind person{hence all their actions are"nice"}.I may be wrong but to me for example when an sp posts in their ads" there is nothing fake about me" isn't that person implying others are?Or another example is" other girls disappoint but I won't",or" are you tired of being let down",I could go on,I think a professional sp should post her stats,services,attributes,without implying another is lesser.As I said I could be wrong but in halifax "not being nice" seems to be the norm.

Today I had an appointment with a client that I usually see at my place for forty five minutes. The difference was that he asked me to come to his business for a kinky session to service his needs sans massage, just fun. I went. He was a very happy customer... When he paid me, he paid me half of what he normally would. When I questioned this, he answered " I didn't get the massage and it didn't take as long" My question for you is was it wrong of me to think I should have been paid the usual? Thanks

Ya it was a mistake, too many windows open on my phone lol Posted via Mobile Device

Ya well I've been a blond most my life but I don't consider myself to be dumb, and I certainly don't flag all dumb blond jokes to Mod either. If you do a google search on "Simple men" you will come up with 226,000,000 results compared to if you googled "dumb blondes" you would come up with 1,280,000 results. Now, if I said men were sexy creatures... We could all try to be supportive of each others thoughts but that's only my take and I can't expect everyone to agree. I love men so much, they smell great are so warm and snugly, MMMMEN!!

A really big hug for you Issy, just for being you.

Hmm Nicolette not sure if totally you're Mr. Right but we've got some common ground. I'll try your place if you'll try mine. A few days in Santa Monica and then up to Vancouver Island near Tofino at the Wickaninnish Inn. Best couples place I know. PS, I like morning legs inter-twined too. Cub

To echo Andys comments Cerb is indeed NOT CL or anything that remotely resembles it or its competitors. What flies on those sites does not fly here as Mod runs a tight ship with his "town councilors" also patrolling the fence. We (the general membership) also tend to want to keep things as drama and BS free as possible. This site, although not perfect, is the absolute best that we as hobbiests and SPs have to maintain civility without the fear of CL style ads, etc. That said I sincerely doubt anyone will take the first shot sort of speak but there are lots of people here who will stand up for themselves, each other and the board as a whole! That is what Cerb and its members offer, what Cerb and its members don't offer is a place to deceive and be less than truthful. No one will instigate here lest they be "spoken to by Mod" but we as a group will defend each other and the boards principles. As you seem to allude to no one likes to be misled and there are those of us who will call foul when they see it! As far as the issue with your photos go yes your erred and you were called on it BUT apologies were given and the issue seemed to die...perhaps it is best to let bygones be bygones.

Perhaps I am wrong, but what you're describing sounds more like the ads on CL than most of the ones on here. And CL does seem to be a much more competitive/combative space for ladies, is rife with fake pictures, scammers and bait and switch operators. So I think there is always concern when some of those practices appear on CERB as I don't want this to turn into CL and I think most others would agree with me. Did you screw up when you first joined? Yes. Did people react negatively towards you because of that? Yes. But from everything I have seen, you've apologized and been upfront and honest since then. And that is what second chances are for. I'm not saying this is what happened to you, but I understand how when a SP who is used to the lawless boundaries of CL joins here, it takes time and a real mental shift to "fit in", so to speak. Hopefully, the effort is worth the reward as many of us have found this to be a very beneficial community in many ways. The one quibble I have with your thesis is that all genuinely kind people are always nice. Nobody's perfect and nobody is nice all the time. But it is certainly a good goal. While I agree that some of those phrases are subtle digs at others, I think some people are just using those phrases because people probably email them and ask if their pictures are real and it's a form of self promotion. I have seen countless ads with fake pictures that contain those same phrases.

Hi Berlin, When I first saw your adverts, read your profile, and followed some of your posts, you struck me as a young lady who has her head on right. You know what you want, what you like, and are not afraid to express your ideas. Of more import is that you are an intelligent individual who is "au courant" with societal issues. Your image is one of a punk goddess with a mushy heart.

I believe that position is called "The Helicopter".

For Stevecurious, just because ;)

Speaking of things on YouTube... this is fantastic: Richard Feynman (probably one of the greatest scientists ever to have lived) talking about beauty.

Why redefine a name? Why not just pick a new name? I don't think the term escort properly defines the ladies around here, neither does a massage attendent (MA) define what you get a massage parlour. And hobbyist sure doesn't define me! I think it's more like obsession-ist! :) BUT I do like JuliasUndies definition! :bigclap:

If we don't want to talk about someone being a spinner, we could always refer to her as an ectomorph. It has the advantage of being scientifically precise and neutral. It has the disadvantage of being scientifically... sterile, for want of a better way of putting it.

Excuse me but I consider myself to be far from simple, thank you very much!!!

What do you expect when you seek out an hour of time from an escort? Really, let's think okay. If I'm a man, I would be thinking this I want her to be on time I want to look and smell good or as she has agreed I don't want to be rushed Greeted with a smile Other than that, guarantees are usually spoken about ahead of time such as how she will dress or if she is flexible enough for that position..If she doesn't meet those expectations then I wouldn't let her in my door. If I ordered a 50 inch plasma Television (not to compare woman, just business) and when the box came, it was a 25 inch HD television, I'd return it without opening it, who wouldn't? But if you opened it , watched it for a month then it wouldn't make sense to ask for your money back after that, especially with all that jam you stained it with. There is no money back crap if she met the expectations unless part way through she has a medical issue that's needs attention or something like that. You can most likely expect her not to fart or stink and satisfy your needs. Besides, men are fairly simple creatures and are easily satisfied and in my experience if a man wanted something specific, they ask for it ahead of time so we have time to prepare.

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Heya Castle It sounds like you answered your own question there in a way. Whatever you decide, I'm sure you will be fine but I will say this. Anyone that doesn't have some sort of feelings for the person touching them or sleeping with them then there may be something wrong with them. Everyone has feelings or thoughts like "she's nice" or "what a sweet heart". Myself I wouldn't let someone touch me if I didnt have a positive feeling about them. It's a great thing to have positive feelings for someone you are sharing a special moment with, keeps us human. What's the worst that could happen? You call her again? Though I'm sure you mean feelings as in heart string tugging feelings. You mentioned that you haven't felt the warmth of a woman in a while, in the case of heart strings, I'd for sure second Berlin's motion of extending your sessions a wee longer at first. Your heart is vulnerable, not just to SP's. Be the King of your Castle that you are and you will be just fine. And hey, if you just need to feel a soft female, sleep beside you to feel great, I don't blame you.. I'll come over, we'll play some poker, I'll pee with the door open, eat your food and talk about my ex a lot and how you remind me of him, then I may or may not nag you for something you'll never know so you'll be on your guard...Finally when I've exhausted you and we've watched our 3rd season of Gilmore girls, we will pass out together in each others arms because I wont let you leave anyways and if you try to pee I'll ask "where you going?, hurry up" We will ultimately cuddle since you will already be curled in the fetal position, straddling your pillow asking yourself "is it morning yet?" I will wake you in the morning from the sounds of the loud gas passing that I held in until now, forgetting you were next to me, roll over and ask for payment, heck, I'll do for free, any day, cause, I care that much. Then I do believe you won't have to worry about your feelings interfering :)

This is a touchy subject - it seems very simple to just waltz in and say oh well no thanks but it can be quite complicated on the providers end. 1. You booking an appointment for a certain time frame is taking up the escorts time. Someone else could of wanted that time and she declined because already booked. Loss of money 2. Lets say you call last minute or one hour in advance and the escort is out running errands, visiting a friend, eating or whatever (yes escorts actually go out and don't sit in bed by the phone all day *gasp*) She drops everything to go to the incall to accommodate and get ready for you. Loss of timehurtful 3. You showing up then saying I'm not interested can be and a blow to the ego. Emotional/negative feelings can arise 4. Lets say the escort only sees X amount of gentlemen per day because she doesn't want high volume going in and out of her incall to not be outed. You now have her location address which can be uncomfortable and raise questions. If you absolutely can't go through with it for whatever reason leave a small cancellation fee. There are lots of reco and review boards.

I first heard the term "spinner" way back in 1981 on the San Francisco stripclub boards of the time. The definition given in those days was a petite (usually small-breasted) woman with a sparkling, sociable personality. The allusion was to the flashing, spinning, light-catching fishing lure (a spinner). The reference to physical spinning while on top of a man, I think, was a case of a rather complicated metaphor sinking to the lowest common denominator over the years (rather like what happened to the term GFE over the years) Additional comments: Sorry Ottanon, but that won't do for a definition: "A spinner by a gents definition is a petite girl can spin around on your member without taking it out. from cowgirl to reverse cowgirl." Virtually any woman could do that and success would depend more on the size and hardness of the GUY'S member.

On EC, I use the tagline 'No one leaves disappointed.' Some guy actually emailed me and asked if he was disappointed would I give him back his money. When I use these words, it's meant to convey the following; you will not be disappointed with how I look in person, you will not be disappointed by my hygiene or the cleanliness of my surroundings. You will also not be disappointed by being upsold on additional services, and in short, I practice professionally, and obviously take care in my preparation and actual session so a client never feels like he's been taken advantage of, rushed or used.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the term 'Spinner' quite means what you're thinking. Although I do prefer your take on things! Anyway, when a man refers to a woman as a 'spinner', I believe it means she's tiny enough to prop up and 'spin' her on his...member. Which is far worse! lol Just thought I'd give you another definition I've heard many times before.

I am not part of this group but I think that the spinner definition in the escort world is someone that if you remove the legs you could spin her around when she is in cowgirl position because she is so small and tiny

I don't think you can ever say one would be better than the other. The reality of the situation is that no one person is the same, as is no relationship. I can see how both could work as well as fail. Also, just because you were poly with a certain partner or two and were happy and all worked out, doesn't mean that in the future you'll be poly with another and be happy. I think all relationships are beautiful and wonderful if people are honest and there are real caring feelings being shared. That's the most important thing. I've experienced both, and nothing is better than being with the people you care for, regardless if others are involved or not. Whatever makes you happy and works at that moment. :icon_biggrin:

I've had women give me compliments that are clearly not true. Frankly I find that a real turn off. In person, as on cerb, "If you don't have anything nice to say..please don't say anything at all." Also, if I ask a question of a lady that is too personal, I would much prefer that she simply tell me that she isn't comfortable sharing that information. I am happy to respect her privacy. Please don't make up a lie in order to simply answer the question.

Links already provided for the indies (Escorts Canada and cerb advertisement section) for the OP. But to help the OP with agencies, these are the updated main (established) Ottawa agencies as we speak. 1 - Pink Kitty (PK) Escorts Both in/oucall 24/7 and the link is: www.pinkkittyescort.com 2 - The new Explore-Her agency coming out of the recent Capital Candies and former Tempted2Touch (T2T): both in/outcall young ladies from Montreal WWW.EXPLORE-HER.COM 3 - Ottawa PlayGirls: - The oldest Ottawa agency, after 7 pm but pre-booking daytime possible and outcall only. www.613girls.com/ 4 - Bella Escorts: - New agency, established themselves as a reliable agency in a short time, both in/outcall: www.bellamtl.com 5 - Abracadabra (Discreet Valley) Escorts. Though they seem to have a number of ladies, they keep very much to themselves (don't advertise often). Outcall only. I used to use their services and in most part I was happy. They have real time schedule. www.discreetvalley.com 6 - ALLD Mostly young asian ladies both in/outcall : Significant recent improvement in quality of ladies and service and the link is: http://asianlalaland.yolasite.com 7 - CandyLand again young asian ladies both in/outcall. Started like a lion as a desperately needed reliable asian agency in Ottawa without B & S, 2 years ago. Recent downturn in quality of service and ladies but I still list them as I had great ladies from them in the past and I hope they come back again as Ottawa's established asian agency soon. www.tog2.com I hope it helps. Secret Admirer

I agree with a lot of what has already been said: - show your personality - show you are having fun - show your body type - yes to lingerie (put on your fav tunes and dance in your underware) - use a camera that takes quality photos (not grainy) After the shot, do some cropping. This is an easy way to hide your face and you do not have to worry about doing it when you take the photo. I also think you should work the underware angle because of your handle. Looking forward to the results.

Well, the waiting's over, and was it ever worth while! Here's what I wrote as I was waiting for her arrival tonight. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39880 And here's what I was waiting for: Seductive, sultry, her strikingly lovely face framed by long dark hair, amazing eyes, almost almond shaped, lips that love to kiss. Perfect spinner body, but shapely in her tight-fitting black outfit. Tight abs, beautiful hips, perfectly proportioned breasts, and an ass beyond compare. And that's just looking at her. And then the fun began. We talked, we toasted, we kissed. Can she kiss! So erotic!! A long and gratifying oral session on her, two on me, with some of the finest bj action I've experienced, and cowgirl, and more oral and another explosion. We fall asleep in each other's arms, and awaken half an hour later, blissful. I had been nervous in the runup to this meeting, because I had been wanting to meet Vicky for so long, but she was easy to talk to, sexy as hell, and totally seductive. A really great sp. Afterwards I walked her through the lobby to a taxi, and noticed how she turns heads.... She's certainly turned mine. A long wait, well rewarded. A very very happy Cato.