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Sometimes 'slow and steady' wins the race :) This thread reminds me of the saying.. that you can tell how a man has sex by the way he eats, they way he dances and the way he drives.. I don't think it's true though. In my case I don't judge personality through sex style by fast and furious vs slow and gentle.. I judge by selfish vs attentive.

In the wake of the new Ontario laws regarding drivers, security, accountants, incall locations & other services now legal to perform for escorts, I, & a great number of my colleagues, have been inundated with offers to perform them & from complete strangers. E-mails, phone calls, texts. Men have gone so far as to join sites to solicit us their " help " with these tasks. NO man wants us to reach out whenever we please to ask if they want to see us therefore the same rule applies to this invasive new phenomena. If we want you, we will find you. What exactly do you think we did a month ago to run our businesses problem free? Put our money under our mattresses? Go to a call, not screen, with no back up? Show up at a friends home to borrow their bed? Beam ourselves to appointments? No. We also did not blatantly, desperately, unprofessionally harass the gentlemen who honour us with their time, kindness, hard earned money to garner business. Some of us have become quite successful by smart marketing & forging lasting relationships built on, and I can not stress this enough, trust & mutually respectful boundaries. There are women all over Canada who have worked for up to 20 years without violence, legal or logistical stumbling blocks & did so quite well long before any Supreme Court decision. So to those who feel they are now doing us a favour, conveniently after the risk factor has been removed, please hear this: I have a financial adviser, I keep receipts OCD style. I have a lawyer, I am aware of what I can & can not do under the Criminal Code. I have a photographer & am happy with my pictures. I have a website, I advertise for myself & need no help with writing or presentation. I have an incall with a person I have actually met. I have a driver for outcalls when I travel further than is possible by cab. I screen well, have a safety person & an incredible relationship with VPD. I have a boyfriend, seriously, & even if I didn't, I have the money for a vibrator. Most importantly, my brain is not pushing a triple digit I.Q., it's pulling it on a trailer hitch. So get an advertising account, post your services & if I am interested, exactly the same as when a gentleman wants to visit me, I am perfectly capable of reaching out. Until then, please stop pestering me & escorts everywhere. Sandi

My first time was awful. I was with an agency back in BC, and of course with an agency, you don't have nearly as much control over your clients as being indy. He smelled awful, was rough, and hovered less than 3 inches from my face the whole time. Basically he embodied all the worst things a client could do. After becoming an indy, I made damn sure to make no bones about my expectations as far as cleanliness and behavior. I also had similar issues when I moved here and worked for agencies. It's my body, and I will be damned if I give any old Joe admittance! I love being indy because I have the final say in whose company I wish to share. Thankfully it's rare I have to restrict or refuse service based on bad attitude or poor hygiene. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't settle for mediocrity. Which means, unfortunately, I do a fair bit of weeding out. But ultimately this is to everyone's benefit, since we've all had lackluster encounters, and they're no fun. Posted via Mobile Device

Passion, chemistry, what your in the mood for....I have been with men that are soft and gentle one time and crazy passionate the next. I don't think rough sex means your a sex fiend or sensual sex means you have a soft heart... I know you asked the men this but an example...I can be very sensual one min. then damn right nasty the next...all depends on my mood. Do I prefer one over the other...nope...it's just who i am.

I find it quite astonishing that this is going on. I've said it before, I don't know how you ladies put up with all this BS and yet are still able to even tolerate the presence of men!! You all deserve a medal!! Porthos

Ladies who spam gents via PM and wall post have been known to be sanctioned and banned from cerb. I would say the same should apply to anyone spamming the ladies.

I thought the original post made it pretty clear that the offers were unwelcome and intrusive: "E-mails, phone calls, texts. Men have gone so far as to join sites to solicit us their 'help' with these tasks." And as the OP further pointed out, every one of us on this site who is a client represents a "business opportunity" for every MA and SP here, but you don't see them inundating us with calls, texts, PMS, or profile messages offering us their "help ". That something is a "business opportunity" (aka a chance to score some cash off someone) doesn't excuse thoughtless, rude behaviour. That's not being entrepreneurial; that's being a selfish dick. (And yes, in this case very likely in both senses of the word.)

I've also found this a bit insulting. But more than that, I find that it shows extremely poor knowledge of the industry and a total lack of professionalism. First, this is not a place where door to door (or inbox to inbox) solicitation is appropriate. If you are applying business models from other industries without bothering to learn what works here, you are not inspiring my confidence. It looks like trying to make a quick buck, not like someone trying to run a serious business. Second, it does not take into consideration what the original poster pointed out, which is that escorts have been running successful and safe businesses for ages. To come in with complete ignorance of that, and then expect me to trust you with my safety, is ridiculous. If you know nothing about the business and yet you are so sure of yourself that you email and pm me to offer your "extremely valuable and necessary services", well, let's just say I don't take you seriously. I am in no way inspired to hire these people. My impression of this has been of young men patting themselves on the back for the brilliant money-making scheme they just discovered, rather than serious business people who offer a valuable service. This is never an image you want to project. So for those offering these services, it is perfectly valid to do so, but bear in mind how you present yourself. Cold calling is a bad idea.

http://www.happyplace.com/15378/the-most-hilariously-depressing-cat-video-on-the-entire-internet I watched this last night and ended up laughing so hard I was crying with a sore belly... Hope you enjoy it as much as I did!

Even though I was terrified, I was even more excited by the thought of sharing intimacy with someone I had never met before. My first rendez-vous was a 'pre-book' and the gentleman was well aware of the fact that it was going to be my first experience so he made sure to make it a memorable one for me. He greeted me with a bouquet of flowers and offered me refreshments. We sat on the couch and talked for quite some time before we moved on to other things. I have to say that everything evolved in the most natural way possible and we had an awesome time together :) To this day, I still believe I was a very lucky woman to have had such a nice experience for my first time.

My first time was about 24 years ago.. but I still vividly remember it. It was an agency outcall and the client was visting his friends so we were actually on the couch. I was nervous people were going to walk in on us but it didn't happen.. To me it was like a blind date only you knew it was fastforwarded to the end of the night make out session. I had 2 followup appts that very night and quit my 'square' job the very next morning. I was a security guard while I was going to school... so I went from a very ill-fitting not sexy at all navy blue uniform to buying lingerie and more skirts! My 2nd appt was very unusual.. I went with another agency girl to the Royal York Hotel to a bachelor party. I was quite overwhelmed and not very well prepped as to what was going on. An obvious low end provider was already there walking around offering $50 blowjobs to anyone.. and the companion escort I arrived with went with one gentlemen to a bedroom. I sat there like a deer caught in the headlights while a very drunk slobbery man started coming at me. I was immediately whisked away by a gentlemen to a room.. and was left alone with a much older gentlemen who turned out to be a recent widower. I was now the only other woman he was going to be with. He was gentle, sweet and appreciative. I left a very happy safe girl. I agree with Emerald though.. in my experience agency's do not take very good care of you.. they just saw the dollars they could make and it was luck of the draw whether the clients were nice or not. It wasn't long before I went indy. Those first two appts were so unique that I don't remember the third..

I believe that if someone is using Cerb to advertise a service, the rules should be across the board. (Pardon the pun.) irrespective of the service itself, advertising should be limited to posts in the appropriate forums and the use of banner ads. I don't think an advertiser - whether a lady or someone offering to be a driver/security/whatever - should have two sets of rules. It doesn't make sense. If you are advertising, do it appropriately according to the rules. Posted via Mobile Device

Rebecca for sure! Staying with Cheers Carla or Lilith?

I'm going to say no. If a man and woman have consensual rough sex because they both like it, it doesn't mean either one of them are cold or standoffish. Likewise, take the stereotypical Don Juan type of man. Wants to have sex with a woman, one night stand, promises her the moon and stars. He's a passionate lover at night, next morning leaves her. He got what he wanted, had to lie to do it, but all he cared about was his gratification. The lady is left brokenhearted next day thinking she had found the man of her dreams. Wouldn't consider him a kind man, irrespective of being passionate lover Or how about a SP who's can provide the gamment of services from gfe to pse to dabbling in bdsm, that doesn't define her character or personality, just the services she can provide. A person who is kind and caring, has character and integrity can enjoy rough sex A person who is mean and cold can be a passionate lover And all points in between A person's sexual preference(s), IMHO is just his/her sexual preference(s) nothing more, nothing less Just my opinion RG

I am inclined to say no. The erotic activities two people engage in is a simple matter of what they so choose. There is such a broad spectrum of activity that you often can engage in thing that are not consistent with your outward character. And that is a good thing. It takes two. Always being consistent with your own character would seem to me to be a severe limitation.

Personally what ever a lady charges, I pay. I'm usually very intrigued by her communication with myself,her photo's and then...well I just book her DAN-O. Lana, hope you don't see anymore of that BS, same with you Cristy, some times I wished I lived out in the east coast;) Peaceful living, good people,GREAT food and most of ALL beautiful friendly women :)

That's a highlight??? Oh mightyfinn you should be in St.John's. Today was gorgeous and sunny. Walked around downtown, enjoyed a pint at my favorite pub. Everyone was out. It seemed like half the Island had taken thir motorcycles out of the shed and were enjoying that first ride of the season. Winter coats, boots, and rain gear thrown aside. Girls were out in short skirts, and even shorter shorts and men were gazing appreciatively. Cato my friend, you should have been here, as some of your favorite parts of feminine beauty were on display ... Long lovely legs and gorgeous asses. And since NL has proud Irish roots, there were lots of redheads out and about. A glorious day!

Anyone have any recommendations?

Do you think the type of sex you like to have says anything about your character,personality? Example:If you are into rough,hard sex,does that mean you are cold,standoffish?or if you are a passionate,sensual lover,does it mean you are soft and kind,ect,ect?What is your opinion.

Jay and Silent Bob can't help it they make me laugh and I've seen them live so funny.

Meg Ryan andTom Hanks in "Sleepless in Seattle" and "You've Got Mail". Richard Gere and Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman" and "Runaway Bride". The chemistry was just natural with these on screen pairs.

I have other work that I do, with website, advertising, etc, and I agree other companies to cold call to offer me their services. But they do this knowing that it is a wholesale company and the company accepts CCs, so they have done some research on the idea that what they have to offer is an alternative to what I already use. They want to offer a different CC processing and assure they can do it for less. They want to offer a different phone service and assure they can save me money, etc. The guys sandi talks about are doing mass emails to sps, regardless of anything they have researched. Does she offer outcalls? No. Then why email her offering service as a driver. Does she already have pro pics? Then by all means, send an email with your professional expertise, website, samples, references and contact info, but don't cold call her if you are offering her photography service, show her what you can do. And I don't think most sps assume these offers are to be in exchange for free sexual services. Those offers are a different thing altogether, they do come in for sure of course. The ones sandi is talking about are the ones who want to actually be paid, because now apparently living off the avails in a 'non-exploitive' way is legal or going to be legal lol. So they don't have to offer service for service trades now, they can actually make a buck. Fine, fair enough, but advertise those services. IF I am looking for someone because I need those services, I will do what any client does, either post my request for suggestions or look at ads. If I am sent an unsolicited text, phone call, email or pm, I will simply hang up, delete or ignore, because I am not looking until I'm looking.

I had just started with an agency...my first call was with a first time client...i walked in ...we looked at each other and i said...ummm what do we do? He said "i don't know" ..so we just went for it...I jumped him{in a good way}. The rest is history...lol. When in doubt I just did what comes naturally...lol...he turned out to be a regular for some time. I guess i was one of the lucky ones. A little shy at the time but it all worked out.

I think it's kinda like the old chicken and egg question. Is your style/personality something you're born with or is it a learned attribute. Since it's an activity between consulting adults, obviously there are compromises by each party to satisfy the partner. I personally find the greatest satisfaction in being unselfish and seeing that I've been able to find the right buttons to get the lady turned on and fulfilled.

"Later, with strange galaxies turning in slow gavotte overhead, neither thought the act of love had ever been so sweet, so full." - Stephen King (I know, right??) - The Drawing Of The Three

I am meeting her tomorrow. I will let you know.

Orange and purple, my two favorite colours. I find them vivid, and full of life! Orange: Orange is a power colour. It is one of the healing colours. It is said to increase the craving for food. It also stimulates enthusiasm and creativity. Orange means vitality with endurance. People who like orange are usually thoughtful and sincere. Lady luck's colour is orange. I have been told that if a change of any kind is needed in life, just burn an orange candle for 7 nights. Purple: Purple is the colour of good judgment. It is the colour of people seeking spiritual fulfillment. It is said if you surround yourself with purple you will have peace of mind. Purple is a good colour to use in meditation. Purple has been used to symbolize magic and mystery, as well as royalty. Being the combination of red and blue, the warmest and coolest of colours, purple is believed to be the ideal colour. Most children love the colour purple. Purple is the colour most favored by artists. Thursday's colour is purple.

I tend towards reds and blues myself. I'm a Gemini so I do tend to have a bit of a split personality going on. I tend to be drawn to women, who also display multiple colour traits, especially if it manifests itself like this

Additional Comments: Since it's the French election today, I offer the boobs of Mrs Sarkosy (Carla Bruni) !

I like BRM even though he is dead wrong about Lee being a better fisherman than me, and he forgot (inadvertently) about Porthos And I like Porthos, a positive contributer to CERB, enjoy reading his posts There, we're back on track, I think RG

Here's my reco of Taylor: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5279 Velvet Monroe is awesome, too, and Ashley Brooks, though Ashley may have retired.

I like Lee because he is a brother from Manitoba

A full list of all the lovey ladies who will be in attendance will be sent out via PM to any member in good standing who makes the request. Also, and this idea came from Aubreyxxx, it might be a good idea for members traveling in from away to try to organize car pools and offer cheap transportation to folks who may not have any. Start a thread in your own cities' forum! Let's give all members the chance to attend! (And this would apply to the Ladies as well!) Tickets available in 9 days! Event only two months away! Hangover to follow...(but we will conveniently forget about that!)

Christy Canyon for sure: Rebecca (Kirstie Alley) or Diane (Shelly Long)

When the ladies are looking for drivers, they are looking for professional drivers, not someone who just has a driver's licence and car. And unwanted soliciting via pm's and emails, that isn't professional. If you are a professional driver, advertise. If the ladies are interested in hiring you, they will. But just having a car and driver's licence, well just about everyone has a licence and vehicle, that doesn't make you professional And on a final note, the closest I could envision providing driving services, as such, is if I had an encounter with a lady at my hotel, and it's ended I would offer and be willing to drive the lady (only if she is comfortable enough with this) back to her place be it hotel or home and save the cost of a cab. I do emphasize it would be an offer, no pressure, and no strings attached Another rambling RG

I think the answer is yes, but I'll be damned if I know what it means!

Hard to say what the answer to your question might be. Perhaps there is more than just one answer per person or per personality type. I can only speak for myself but I find I am drawn more to the kinky, naughty, down and dirty type of sex than opposed to soft and sensual. That said I would never consider myself to be "cold or standoffish." I generally consider myself to be fair, even handed, open and honest (perhaps to a fault) but never cold without reason. For instance I enjoy various aspects of sex from BDSM all the way through to missionary sex. My pallet is varied and I would say my personality is as well. I doubt that the obvious associations of sensual lover = a kind heart would hold true all of the time. There are those of us whose outward buttoned down, clean cut appearance may shock you in the bedroom. To quote a favorite TV show of mine from when I was a child: "There is more to them than meets the eye."

I like Tokan. He is a positive contributer to CERB, enjoy reading his posts. Not to mention finding out he's a fisherman too. RG

Precisely my impression too. As though they have just invented the wheel. Every one has the right to try to build a business but the way you go about it is equally important. In this age of internet, once you have established yourself as less than proper in your conduct, it will follow you in perpetuity. Like MightyPen says, so are you. So what's your phone number? You know, so the next time I'm short on rent, I'll just pick up the phone.:icon_wink: Seriously though, I get what you are saying, that someone could conceivably make money from my business. The point is, they already do, have done for some time now & faithfully when there was some risk to them. My driver & incall attracted me NOT by hitting me up with spam but by advertising on sites specific to the industry. However none of these new generous guys showed an interest in " helping " a lot of us last month. So the timing of it all, coupled with the erroneous assumption that 1- We are too ignorant to be aware of the new laws, 2- We need to be told how to run a business, 3- They believe we are so stupid as to trust a stranger not yet vetted with our safety, 4- They have done absolutely NO research into MY business yet feel they are somehow suited to it & entitled to have a piece of the pie.....as it were. is why I personally find it incredibly insulting. Exactly. Men have gone so far as to join sites to solicit us their 'help' with these tasks." Some of us have received PMs/Texts from brand new members. These are not businessmen, they are not even hobbyists, they joined for one reason only: they are opportunists. And cowardly ones at that. If their services were so invaluable & honourable, they would have stepped up prior to no longer having to assume any risk. It isn't, unfortunately. My post was in direct response to tacky practices industry specific & while it has been more volume since the SC decision, it sadly isn't the first time. I have been solicited by photographers & web designers. I politely declined as I have both. One photographer's response was to launch into a diatribe of vile insults including " your pictures suck ", " At least I make my money on my feet not on my back " & the fail safe justification for being turned down, " You are just a dumb fat whore " This is only a fraction of what we are often forced to endure given the life we've chosen & most of us handle it with aplomb. We are aware when someone goes to THAT route, they are just rage-aholic idiots, it isn't about us but them & we dismiss it as such. However, it is why, at times such as this, we become very offended when it is assumed we are dumb bimbos with no business sense. After a while, enough simply becomes enough & something needs to be said. Sandi

For those who want a cock shot, here's a picture of a cock for you Just a little, yes very little humour folks RG

Well in hindsight perhaps the social should be an all day and evening event on a rented yacht :) Just cruise and sail port to port !! Pick up and drop offs available .... I will even be captain and drive the boat, just make sure there are enough lifeboats in case I get drunk and lost and bump into an iceberg by Newfoundland ;)

I would 100% support and agree with Lee's comment. Travelling is expensive, air fares are not refundable, though you do get a credit for future use within one year, and every change in a flight once it has been bookeds costs $75. Costs at nice hotels are well up there. Transportation to and from the airport and eating on the road are all significant expenses. A cancellation or a no-show which is even worse I'd think are literally taking money out of the pocket of the travelling SP. Respect them for who they are and what they do.

I am someone who visits mostly with travelling ladies as well as someone who travelled a great deal for many years and I completely understand the costs associated with travel.....and these cavalier attitudes the guys have at great expense and stress to the ladies burns my ass .... a cancellation without reason is ignorant in every sense of the word and basically robbery....wake up fellas !!! Whether it is plausible or not....an SP black list database behind the wall that lists guys that are cronic last minute no-shows would be a nice way for ladies to check in on before planning a trip based on bs bookings. Cancellations happen I understand....but I am talking about the cronic fellas. I most certainly support and encourage a booking deposit for the travelling gals :)

This posting is very warranted. Seems now there are some guys looking make a quick buck off us, ain't happening. All the people I have entrusted with my life, my money, my security, my investments, they were all here for me before the law changed. I think I will keep those trusted people around me as long as they want to be here. So, as sandimoon says, if you want me to take up your services, advertise like the rest of us! If someone wants your service, they will ask. Don't send us unsolicited pm's.

If it makes you feel any better by the end of the night I won't be wearing any, I will have to take them off to give to the winner.

I have somewhat of a different take on the story, but that may be due to my misunderstanding of the issue. I of course have no issue with the fact that the guy was being completely ignorant by refusing to pay or trying to negotiate. What bothers me however about the story is that the people involved may lose their jobs or be severely reprimanded not for trying to cheat the worker, but rather for seeing a prostitute in the first place. These guys are American, and I do understand that the laws are different in that country, but even still, it is the idea that seeing an escort is the cause for the ruckus in the media (Canadian media as well) and the secret service. We have a LONG way to go before this whole environment becomes socially acceptable.

Hasn't EB been around for a long time and experienced this sort of thing before? What would you think makes this instance different - or did something recently happen at EB?

I didn't realize that there are providers out there who didn't like toys! Is that even an option with this career choice? cat

Agencies can't ask for STDs or health background in Canada as it's not legal. In some opther countries they have to do it as it's legal.

Thanks for Boomer for referring me to the Rules and FAQ section. I read that, but was still confused about a number of issues. The excellent answer by WIT clarified most issues. I did not realize the process was this complex. Thanks WIT for sharing your extensive knowlege. I think you are the most informed member of Lyla, even though you may not be the cutest. I have one more concern. I find it a bit offensive when members with no rep points are told that they "haven't proven trustworthy yet". I do not see why new members are told they are untrustworthy. Just tell them they have not yet earned reputation points.