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Okay... it looks like the BDSM/fetish section was completely the wrong place for this question. It's obviously gone completely mainstream.

I began this thread, and its origin truly was simply from having read about some of our recent departures and from my own self-questioning about continuing in the lifestyle. My self questioning has nothing to do with the way Cerb is run. I love the way that Cerb is operating and how it changes and that there are discussions with opposing points of view. Again it is the people that make up the community that do this. I well understood that the discussion might go somewhat in the direction that it has taken, and yes, I was a bit nervous that this could become a negative thread. What it became is just another example of how one topic on Cerb so easily overlaps with another and how so many of our threads are interconnected. This community is not simple and almost nothing can be looked at in isolation. It is nice to see that overall there does seem to be consensus that we should, and do, focus on positivity. When we have had issues, and we have, cool heads have prevailed. If every one of us felt exactly the same about everything, believed exactly the same things, said exactly the same things, how boring that would be and then how would we learn from and appreciate the variety of opinions that are out there? Respect is pretty key in everything and for the most part we have it here. Phaedrus perhaps expressed it best by pointing out that there are probably a multitude of reasons for people leaving and that it is for us to accept and respect their choices. And that my friends is what this thread was all about.

Had a great reunion this morning. Went to the market, bought a bunch of kiwis. Now I am naked, in the sunshine, dancing to great music. What don't I love about my life? And can I suggest that we all pause for a moment and ponder the word 'kiwi'?

I don't know why someone suggested that Katy's pictures do not look like her. This erroneous suggestion has the potential to turn clients away from her. If you are not sure of something about someone, please proceed with caution for you may harm that person with your pronouncements. The pictures she currently posts on BP and CERB are defintely of her.

Rates in Ottawa run the gammit, but remember, you get what you pay for, and sometimes not.

Got my 5km walk time down from 52 minutes to 47 minutes today! Now, should I add 1km tomorrow or just try to beat my time??? Plus, down another 2lbs and my energy level has risen by leaps and bounds!

On Saturday night I had my third encounter, nay, more like a date, with Emily, when she came on tour to Toronto July 13-14 2012. And it was a four hour outcall to my hotel. Emily and I have hit it off in the past, and I thought an extended date with Em would be great. Great is an understatement. Without details, I can say Saturday night's date was the highlight of my summer, and summer isn't even over yet. I spent the afternoon in my hotel room, getting ready, watching the clock, my anticipation and excitement building, watching, waiting, getting ready and then, on time came the knock on the door. I opened the door and there was Emily, looking as young and beautiful as ever. I let her in and we greeted each other with a hug and kiss, oh ok, kisses. Now in complete honesty I have to say Emily's photos are not accurate. Emily is even more beautiful in person than her photos show. We went over to the couch, where I had a nibbler tray set up of cheese, crackers and some other munchies. I then went to the kitchen and got us each a drink. We got caught up on old times. I told her some things going on with me, and she told me things going on with her. Emily has a very colourful life I must say. I didn't know this but Emily is on the dating scene. But Em doesn't use dating sites to find a boyfriend, no. She uses Wal Mart. If you hear shopping carts crashing in a Wal Mart near you, and see an angry married lady yelling about a beautiful redhead trying to steal her husband, well chances are Emily is in town. I had to put my drink down while being Emily told me of her escapades at Wal Mart for fear my drink would spew out through my nose. She had other stories to tell, worthy of posting in the humor section on CERB, but I won't tell them, too many stories, not enough time. But more than once I had to put my drink down. You might have gathered Emily has a sense of humor. Well she does and then some. Not to mention being down to earth. She was even forgiving of me. I confessed I took one of her photos off her website and used it for wallpaper on my computer. And I sent copies of the photo to some friends who would appreciate the picture. She said it's an awesome picture, I have to agree. I'm not telling what photo it is, but Emily has my permission to divulge which photo I used off her website, so you'll have to ask her. Well as time went on we went to the bedroom to continue catching up. The snack platter was left in the living room, although I don't know why, Emily can eat crackers in my bed any time. We undressed one another and.....oh if I haven't mentioned it before, Emily is beautiful. Oh forgot what I was going to write with that memory fresh in my head. However the details of our catching up are private between Emily and me. After we finished catching up, we both were just lying in bed, Emily in my arms, and we were caressing one another. Doing what could be listed as a menu item (not that Emily has a menu), and I'll coin the term KCC (kissing, cuddling, conversation) We kissed/cuddled/conversed for awhile but unfortunately, as always, the time ended.....ended all too soon, and Emily had to catch a flight out. I drove her back to her hotel in my infamous pick-up truck and we kissed good-bye, leaving me not just with a memorable encounter, but a wonderful memory too If you are looking for a lady who provides a GFE and lets the encounter unfold naturally, contact Emily. If you are a visual gentleman, and you like her photos, give her a call, she is much more beautiful in person (some things a camera just doesn't catch) If you like ladies who are down to earth and have a sense of humour, give Emily a call, she is the proverbial girl next door (although sadly never next door to any place I lived). And for the gentlemen, we are very lucky. She has a busy schedule traveling from one end of Canada to another, living out of suitcases and hotel rooms so we get the pleasure of her companionship. Emily is a wonderful companion, a class act and most of all a lady, and should be treated as such. An encounter with her isn't just memorable, it is a fond memory too. And to Emily, thank you again for a wonderful date Saturday night. I'm looking forward to seeing you again.

I may be in the minority here but I prefer a 30 minute appointmen for that first meeting that way if we don't click there is no awkwardness, if we do click then we can extend the sessiion or book longer next time. Thankfully I can count on half a hand encounters where we didn't click. Also some providers are great at the physical aspect of an encounter, but aren't comfortable with the social conversational aspects of a session, providng a 30 minute session may well be within her comfort zone.while it takes the same amount of time and care to prepare for a longer apointment as it does a half hour. There is likely a market for it as some gents may not be seeking the social aspects of an encounter and would prefer the option. Its important however for gents to respect the providers who choose not to offer 30 minute sessions. We are lucky to live in a socitey where we have a variety of choices and options t choose from that meet out emotional, financial and physical needs!

Change is inevitable. Of late there have been a number of high profile people who have made decisions to either leave Cerb or to adapt their role within the community, and it has caused me to consider again why people do quit and make the decisions that they make. Most recently is WIT, whose leaving I know has left many of us feeling a sense of loss. Less then a week prior to WIT's decision, Spud 271 left. I had met Spud at socials in Ottawa and always enjoyed his humour when we were face to face but I also enjoyed his writing and his posts. Previous to them Pistol Pete chose to limit his participation in Cerb by declining to write threads or comment on threads and restricting himself mostly to reccos. Prior to that stevecurious left and when that happened his departure was for me the first time that when a member announced his leaving that I felt a sense of loss. Steve later reconsidered and has again become a valued member of this community. I am sure there are many others who have left for a whole variety of reasons. First let me say that I am not wishing to delve into the whys and wherefores that may or may not be reasons for which some of our notables have decided of late to leave CERB. I do not want to be speculating or have this thread be used to air speculation. It is a thread that I have had in mind for quite a while but from a purely personal perspective. I know of course of women that have left the board, but will restrict myself in this post to the male side of it, because of the mixed feelings that I have myself, about myself. The rationale for joining and then for leaving is no doubt unique for everyone. I have been a member of CERB since January of 2011. In that relatively short period of time I have seen people come and people go and of course I have seen many a reference to well respected members who were well established on CERB and left before I ever even heard of this board. I have learned many things from CERB, but in reality I have learned many things from the PEOPLE of CERB, as it is the people that make this community what it is. Some will think I am sure that my thinking is ass backwards, but when I think first of what I have learned I think of life lessons, not sexual encounters. I think of stereotypes and how they have been shattered, at least for me. I think of the law and what I have learned and about aspects of the law that I had never even considered previously. I think of the semantics of the business. I think of trans gendered people. I think of respect, both given and received. That list could go on and on and on. My world has changed in the last year and a half, much more than probably most of you can appreciate, and most times I think that it has changed for the better, because of the circumstance that I found myself in. Of course I think about the sex - about the beautiful women that I have met. I think about the very special experiences that I have had, and I have had many. I think about that special `relationship` that I have developed with some of you, both men and women. I think of friends that I have made, and I do consider them friends. And I think of quitting. I did quit once, about three months after I started here. That quit lasted for all of twenty four hours. As soon as I wrote it, as soon as I stated it publicly not in a thread but in one of the social groups, as soon as I clicked on submit, I knew that I had made a mistake. The mistake was that I did not have a plan in place of what it is that I would do to replace the void that Cerb had been filling for me. So, I reversed that decision, really fast, and have been here ever since. So why then do I continue to consider quitting? Reality is a huge issue. What is real? What is fantasy? What is role playing? What is make believe and what is illusion? You know what, that can become very confusing for a client. I am real. I honestly think that I act and write and behave in the Cerb world both online and in person as I do in the rest of my world. I am not used to interacting with people for whom that is not also true, but I know that I do here, very commonly, and for me that is the Catch 22, because that is probably a fundamental truth/requirement of the business, and oh yes indeed, I do know that this is a business. There are many threads on this aspect of Cerb already. I said above that I have broken out of my stereotypes, and that is largely true, however the one big one that I have NOT broken is the feeling that I must have something "wrong" with me for paying such large sums of money for social companionship, and for me it is the social companionship that I have cherished the most. What is most curious is that I don't feel that way at all about any other male member of CERB, only towards myself. It causes me to question myself, which I suppose is a good thing ultimately. I am old fashioned, and yup, probably old too. I am not going to take up the bar scene and be picking up women in that way. Reality check. It just isn't going to happen. I am not asking women out on 'dates' in the non-Cerb world for fear that that would be construed as a desire for or have the potential for a long term relationship. That's the old fashioned part of me. So I might leave CERB in a heartbeat if I had a solution to my dilemma but I do not have a solution, I don't see a solution and until I do then here I shall remain, as it has been an awesome experience and an awesome community for me to be a part of. Another fundamental reality is that for each of us there will be a time to leave that is the right time for us. Our reasons to be here are unique to each of us and when we decide to leave those reasons will also be our own. WIT and Spud and so many before them have their reasons and whatever the reasons are they are valid for them. I am just throwing this post out there in large part for myself as writing often helps me to clarify thoughts in my head. Perhaps some of it resonates with others and perhaps most of it is unique to me. It is just that at the moment as I see people choosing to leave Cerb it causes me to wonder about whether their thinking is in some ways in line with my own or rather whether it truly is a unique individual decision that each of us makes for our own unique and individual reasons. I am not quitting Cerb. At least not today.

This is a notice to anyone who has access to my private members' area. I received word last night that it has been infected with 3rd party malware. This morning I checked, and this does appear to be the case. I have contacted my server administrator. If you have a good real-time av/malware protection package, you probably got the warning if you tried to use the page. If not and you have visited the page over the past couple months, make sure your protection is up-to-date and run a scan. If you don't have protection, you can download something to scan your system here for free: http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free I'll post here when the problem is resolved. Sorry for any inconvenience.

I like your idea, but a static defense, IMHO, is dangerous. I choose mobility and solitude

I dont live in Calgary but I am noticably muscular . I am more than toned more than fit more than tight . I come to Calgary at least once a month I love the clients I get to see there. 5'2 115lbs muscularity obviouse and noticable with cloths on and covered I look normal . I still can budge my ass is a size 2 pant . My leg strength is considered lethal :) xoxox Jessica James The more encouragement I get the more motivated I am to visit http://jessicajames.escort-site.com

The pics are of Katy and are much more recent then the pics she used in a past. I think that if a girl changes, weight flunctuation ( the biggest one) major change in hair IE: adding or removing exstenstions or a major change in color. Having lost 20 lbs in the past 2 months I decided to model for photographer to get recent pics...as I continue to drop weight expect more pics probably another shoot in a month, to show that my body looks better then it has in 2 years.....Saw someone yesterday I had not seen since April and his jaw hit the ground...he could'nt believe the change in my body and its getting better by the week! Anyways back to the subject at hand....The best way to see who is legit is read all comments and recos on cerb. For example if you search me you will find recos in various cities and reviews in those cities discussion areas...So try this with other girls. and see what u find. I'm not a client but here is my list LOCALS ME lol Rachelle Skye indie from, Gan Katy Autumn- dont know her but have heard good stuff. VISITING GIRLS Gabriella Laurence Meg For Fun Emma Alexandra Lou from Montreal Angela of Ottawa Catherine St Claire Victoria Jolie Evelyne Lemay Alexandra Skye

One may find everything one needs here on cerb, so why go take a chance on bp and cl? If you insist, check the cowboy's diary first. In fact, always check the diary first! Have fun! toine

omg....you have taken the plunge.....now what?? It's like catching a tiger, it's simple, you hide behind a tree and jump on it when it walks by....BUT HOW DO YOU LET IT GO???? You have been given a lot of good advice on here.....mine is the same "RUN FORREST RUN".... walk away!!!!!!!!!!!

Depending on what your definition of mature is I would recommend Katherine and/or Sierra.

Presumably the agency is absorbing the cost, but the girl still gets paid.

Hmm I have been referred to as a ninkanpoop.....:) Peace MG

A slightly different (to me) feeling at Barb's this afternoon (7/27). Different servers. Different shooter girl (although I have a vague memory of seeing her last year around Christmas time - a friend of Jenny's if I recall correctly). There also seemed to be quite a number of unfamiliar dancers, although I haven't been in since late May. Some I recognized - Mia (back from the 'Mate), Serena and a few others. Ariel was looking great and I noticed a tall ebony dancer (Mona, I think) who was very eye-catching. Departed a bit early as Jenny was not in attendance. Perhaps she's off on vacation again - any info re Jenny sightings or her schedule is always of interest.

16 1/2 foot long, 82 inch beam aluminum fishing boat 2001 75hp Merc outboard, new powerhead in 2009 80 pound thrust 24 volt minn kota trolling motor 3 fishing seats plus 1 pro pole fishing seat 2 depth finders, 1 at console 1 at bow 48 inch livewell with removable baitwell cw trailer But I think the costs to deliver it would cost more than the boat But it is a great fishing boat RG

I can never seem to get excited for the Olympics anymore, knowing that in whatever city they're being held, there is always a huge crackdown on prostitutes because government officials seem to think that the Olympics will increase sex trafficking. http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8503767

Both my parents were smokers and honestly I think that is what turned me off from smoking. My dad was a 3 pack a day chain smoker (export plain, no filter) had nicotine stained fingers which I found disgusting. My mom would light cigarettes up and leave them burning in ashtrays all over the house. I woke up every morning with a runny nose. When I moved out when I was 19, I remember the runny noses stopped, but I started craving cigarettes and it was the weirdest feeling. I guess I was actually in withdrawal from second-hand smoke. I am glad I didn't give into the urges because I'm sure I would have been hopelessly addicted. So sometimes it works the other way. In my case, it did.

Two of the wonderful ladies here already are I believe wonderful accessories to each other and appear to complement each other beautifully. To Nathalie and Georgiana.

The ipad is great I still have my first Gen model and us it frequently. As great as it is, make no mistake it is not a computer but more of an accessory or appliance that will enhance your computer experience be it Mac or pc but an ipad is not yet at the stage where it could outright replace your current desktop or laptop. :)

I have in the past accepted a reference from an agency on occasion (but it is only because I knew the owner) I will not accept anything except a reference from a reputable companion (as in paid advertising, website, board presence) My safety and well being and that of those I have previously met is way too important to me and that is why my screening policies have gotten stricter. As well with the bylaws in some cities, it is not worth risking anything for any amount of money. I am reference friendly and it saddens me when other ladies are not, as the gentleman will see who he wants with or with out your consent, you don't own the client and you should want nothing more than for him to be safe.

Lol, I had no idea this thread was going around, I really don't check CERB very often except when I'm travelling to Ottawa or Halifax... anyways, I'm glad to be the inspiration for this thread, and I appreciate the kind words that so many of you have said about me. <3 Truth is, I'm extraordinarily lucky in a lot of ways, and I'm always accepted as female without any reservations or questions. I have friends, colleagues, and professors that I've known for years who haven't the slightest clue as to my medical history. Frankly, unless they're going to see me naked, I don't think it's necessary to share the intimate details of my past, so in my day-to-day life (and my activism for the most part) I simply don't bring it up. It's really only relevant to those that I plan to sleep with, and I find it can often become a distraction that takes away from the other issues in the discussion. My anatomy isn't the least bit relevant in regards to my belief that sex work should be entirely decriminalized, and when I talk about the topic in public forums, I'd rather the focus remain on the laws themselves. In terms of my own identity and how I perceive myself, I consider myself a woman first and foremost, with "tgirl" as a subordinate category under the superordinate category of "female". I think of tgirl as a similar term to "lesbian", insofar as both terms refer to a woman of a particular alignment or persuasion, but both fall under the broader category of woman. I really don't like the term "shemale", though, because that's usually meant to mean a person of a "third gender," who identifies as neither male nor female, but somewhere in between. I know that some people use this term to refer to themselves and I certainly respect their right to do so, but it's never felt like the right term for me, and I don't use it to describe myself in any way, shape or form. I'm just a girl with a unique anatomy and unique history, in a unique location on the amazingly-diverse spectrum of sexuality. As for surgery, I think of that as a private issue that I don't really discuss publicly, although I'll go as far to say that it's definitely on my TDL, as soon as the time is right. But in my personal and public life, I'm already accepted as the person I know myself to be, and that's a lot more important to me than my current anatomy. I'm also legally female in every respect, having changed my name and all forms of ID quite some time ago. Fortunately, I don't experience systemic discrimination due to my status, although that's unfortunately not the case for many of my trans friends. As a provider, it's extremely important that all my potential clients are aware of my services before making an appointment, because it's not fair to expect them to have a complete grasp of all the different terminology within the industry. I would feel bad if someone's lack of awareness led them to arrange an appointment where they're expecting a certain service, but not able to enjoy it. I think that's something that all providers should make a priority when arranging a get-together, just for ethical reasons, but for me, it's a safety issue as well. I've been fortunate that none of my unaware clients have ever reacted violently or negatively, but I know it's happened to others who aren't so diligent when making arrangements - and sadly, the law often gives a free pass to those who commit violent acts, and tends to blame the trans person for supposedly acting in a deceptive manner. :( Anyways, I hope that some of what I've written makes sense, and I'm happy to have been the inspiration of this discussion. From the posts above, it seems that at least a few people have expanded their horizons through this post, or at least learned a few new words and won't be likely to experience any unexpected "surprises." ;) Given that my long-term goal is to decrease the stigma experienced by sex workers, I truly feel that providers who are honest about their services and genuine in their approach can only help society view us in a more positive light. By trying to avoid misconceptions, I'm just doing my own little part to make that goal a reality someday, and I love how CERB has so many providers and clients who are doing their part as well. :)

I had the chance to try one once, but I could just not get past the pubes of another man that were still caught up in the ring. :icon_eek: I graciously declined all toys that were available needless to say.

My experience is called Ex-wife Jabba ! Completely eliminated ejaculation for quite some time ;) Probably not what you are looking for....never mind ..... sorry for the hijack !

The only way I could imagine a lady doing this is if perhaps if you were a regular client who came to see her consistently at so many intervals for at least a year or more. I don't think it's polite to see someone a few times and then expect something for free just because it's your birthday (or any other type of anniversary). But even then, it would be up to her. I think it would be extremely rude to ask a lady for a freebie of any kind.

This hobby like some activities, is an extreme sport; it is fascinating, exciting, but the risks are numerous, and if you practice this activity you must be aware of what you are risking. It is risky for SPs and MAs and it is risky for hobbiests. We know the risks relating to health, safety, the financial risks (an addiction can cost a lot), and the risks of hurting ourselves with expectations on the other that she or he will not be able to fullfil. Like in extreme sport, people get hurt; some will recover, some wont. It's up to each of us to know our own limit, our real expectations to do this hobby, and at some point to know when it is time to stop. I dont think there are magical solutions to this. Learning and listening to ourselves could be a way. Sharing your thoughts is another.