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Or Mod was generous with his/her time and vigilante back in 2009 when he defined the term GFE in the follow thread: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214 I guess the term GFE is a very personal one and we all have an opinion about what it really means. The key with any type of service is to communication with the service provider to clarify what is really offered and ask questions. We all welcome inquiries... right ladies? Canuck------ said it best. Quote: "At one point in time (and in certain places still) you would not be able to kiss the MA, you wouldn't shower together, you wouldn't hug and cuddle, you wouldn't be able to reciprocate touch, or do a reverse massage." The erotic massage industry has for sure evolved in Ottawa and was it not for the best? I know I'm having a lot more fun!

Please also consider the fact that certain ladies choose to charge a lower rate in order to attract more clients and see multiple people a week for shorter dates. Others will intentionally set very high prices in order to keep a restricted and exclusive clientele. This strategy is more for the ladies interested into the cocktail date market (2+ hours per date) and long term arrangements. Both providers can be equally beautiful, smart and entertaining but both have chosen to do business differently based on their needs, lifestyle and the type of dates that they want.

The pulmologist drained the fluid from dad's lungs (turned out he doesn't have pneumonia) Under the circumstances he is feeling better, and has some appetite back. He goes in for a biopsy tomorrow, and a follow up exam with the pulmologist. He has a couple more appointments, but he decided to come back home to have his chemotherapy. Get to see dad next week before he goes home to Nova Scotia. The positive is, under the circumstances that is, he doesn't have pneumonia and starts treatment for leukemia sooner than later, important when battling cancer. He has a positve outlook that he'll beat the leukemia So all in all, under the circumstances more positve than negative news Best news is no more leukemia, I'm praying he'll beat it RG

Following Cleo's post earlier this month, i'm adding my voice as the other side of the equation (the client's side of course) on Nikki Thomas' show "Sex, Brains and Money". Enjoy!

My very good friend with the brain tumor underwent a 14 hour surgery yesterday that appears successful. She exited the OR at 2 a.m. and tonight I saw a picture of her awake and smiling in ICU. I talked to her husband this morning after I knew she made it through surgery and we agreed.....Christmas came on Dec. 6, 2012 for us.

If you have a preference for an outfit for an outcall, then you should specify it... Otherwise I think most providers will use their judgement in what is appropriate to show up in... That said, I am a fan of stockings and skirts. There is nothing sexier to me than the edge of a thigh-high peeking out from behind the hem of a skirt!

If I have a girlfriend that loves to give me sensual massages, is that GFE? If I see an sp that does it all ... That's also GFE? For me the term GFE does not belong strictly to SP or MA, its just a acronyms of Girlfriend Experience. Anything that you could enjoy being in a relationship with a girlfriend but subtitute it with SP or MA, is GFE. Here's another kicker, isnt SP stand for Service Provider? Yes its commonly known as FS Escort, but nonetheless - doesnt MA provides you service? doesnt the cable guy or the waitress at the restaurant provide you service? Everything around us is evolving, you either choose to follow or be left behind. Word definition evolves, so is acronyms. Look back 10 years ago. Is "LOL" a known term or even word?? It made it to merriam-webster : http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lol Advertising is a cruel business you have to be able to engage your client and be clear at what you meant while making it all sound enticing. Not like reading a manual. If it makes one wonder, it worked - the curiousity to find out is there. For the one that does not like suprises, then ask questions? (Like the OP. did) How many people would wonder about how good their encounter be if they are reading something like "I will hug you when you come, then we can laugh and giggles before proceeding to the shower and then i will give you a great massage, body slides and a handjob at the end" compared to "Sensual GFE Massage that will satisfy you from start to finish (sorry if I steal that line from anyone's ads, I didnt do a search .. lol.). For me clearly the first one is so mechanical, no element of suprises... hardly interesting. As for the second one, you would be thinking of how this MA will treat you during your time together with them - given that there is always boundaries. bushbeating and my 2 cent... for what its worth...

The ladies often see each other as direct competition. Price wars in Montreal brought the rates down so much that it really was unreal at one point (no one has any money to advertise with) ... but really if you offer great service and your rates are reasonable you don't need to lower prices to compete with another SP... she can only do so many calls a day remember! ;)

WOW - this is a real eye-opener for me on how a SP may operate :S Yet you have perplexed me... IMHO - One lady's price changes has nothing to do with the quality of another lady: Are you saying ladies should band together to fix prices in the industry just for the benefit of some other ladies whom may otherwise not be of the same quality or level of service and for which could not otherwise fetch the same prices in the marketplace on the own? - but just because?? ...only to have some SPs gain more $$$ from hobbyist whom otherwise get no more benefit from your time and services other than being cornered into artificially inflated prices beyond any normal free market level of supply and demand? (This is called Price Gouging - No??) Are you declaring this is the common practice which all SPs are to follow? What will you do if she (or others) doesn't keep up her prices as per your demands? What do you do when a SP actually does lower their price, as it seems to happen daily? (Example: Many ladies whom tour offer city-specific pricing (presumable based on each city being a different market with different supplies and demands for SPs).) Why not just 1 price for all cities? How can 1 price cover all the uniqueness and variations in quality (a subjective trait) each lady has when working independently in any open marketplace?? What does Winnipeg SP Market Prices have to do with Ottawa SP Market Prices? Is there a correlation? Just because one lady lowers a price doesn't mean another has to, nor in the opposite way either - No? What makes you feel this way about yourself, and others? Does the quality of your company change when other ladies change their prices Summer? Add or subtract services? Add or subtract intimacy? (...or what have you.) I ask this for clarity in your public comments, as as a 'hobby-conomist' (TM pending!) - I geek-out on studying these types of behaviours when learning about how SPs and the hobby works. Thanks in advance for your education! PS: I recommend everyone read Freakonomics - the Prostitution Chapter is awesome! PPS: I actually have a degree in Economics, worked in the international financial industry, have been an independent entrepreneur for decades studying micro- and macro- economics as related to human psychology - it's how the world works! PPPS: Personally, like myself, anyone can set any price they want - if I really want something in life, for me, price is irrelevant. I will fairly pay whatever. Just so interesting to understand how others think. (One more) PPPPS: Think about it - Why does CERB even exist? ..and have a B&S Section? Quality rules! (but not all 'actors' in the marketplace are ethical - whether in this industry or otherwise. As a buyer, I beware - Safety is Cool!! (and super-sexy ;) )

Usually undies, maybe a t-shirt. I have a no-pants rule in my home ;)

Yup. That's how I remember the term coming into play. Yup again. In both cases, intimacy (the non-sexual kind) is the primary distinction from the historically more clinical service approach. An observation: It seems we were on the right track with this thread initially. The original poster started a topic specifically asking about a GFE massage (in the massage section, no less). Seven posts in, he expressed his satisfaction with the sensual-oriented massage descriptions given. Suddenly we find ourselves in the midst of a pedantic debate over correct GFE usage; and worse, pundits awaken to remind us that it's actually full service providers who have the exclusive licensing rights to use the term. I don't get it. Why is this so important? And why is it even relevant to this thread, which for all intents and purposes could have ended happily and on-topic 31 posts ago?

Looks like the return of that Decker girl ;)

I received a picture of my nephew today! I love receiving pictures of him and it makes me smile every time I think about going home, and giving him a big huge hug! (I also taught him the word huge and the arm movements that go with it lol which makes me smile every time he says huge with his hands outstretched above his head saying --huuuuuuuge-- haha) Xo

We all have families and friend that we rather they dont know about our business, but the same way you crop or modify someone else's pictures you can do the same to your own... Using pictures of someone else wheather they are close or not to how you look, is still dishonest as wel l as bad business practice... I hope that you learn from this mistake... to have nice pictures they dont necesarily need to be done by a professional...

Had the amazing pleasure of meeting Alexxxis (xXxAxXx). I booked with her through PM and talk to her in chat room too. I just had the feeling she was my type of lady, and boy was I right. I just love a body that is a bit curvey and it doesn't hurt if she has nice T&As too. Alexxxis certain met that criteria and some. And, she just seemed like such on open-minded and fun lady, and was wondering whether both the body type and service would wow me......... So I arrive at her place, and we start with a nice long kiss, with a little tongue sharing. That just gets me started. We head off to her bed and then the fun began. We took our time exploring each others bodies and slowly removing some attire. Loved her body. Those natural tits and that ass, were amazing. She started with some wet and sloppy BBBJ, perfect. Then it was my turn to taste that pussy, nice and juicy and she was making it clear that she was enjoying it, encouraging me along and a little bit of dirty talk...this just gets me going more. I then move a little further south, and taste that ass, oh my god, my god, this lady is so enjoying it, and so am I. Time for the main act, and she mounts cowgirl style for a while, but that isn't really what I want, I want to mount her from behind, getting a great look at that ass, she wants it that way too This was so good, and I couldn't hold back any longer, and came in doggie. After we just relaxed (no choice we were spent), cuddled and chatted a bit. Her two cats joined us....I think they came by to see if we were okay.... Anyway, I had a great time, another gem. You should go see her, she was around a few years ago and is back, but seems to have a limited amount of time, so better go get hold of her, as you are missing a great experience.

I wanted to meet Candy aka Tasha for a long time. The problem was she does mostly outcall and I usually do incall. Luckily or, borrowing my own handle here - luckyme, lol, I finally had the opportunity to meet her outcall recently. Candy turned out to be a real sweetheart with a wonderful personality and a great attitude. She has a beautiful smile, a fit and toned body, and she is indeed tight all over as one other poster stated earlier. I also agree that she provides a great service and she spares no effort to please her client. To me, she was worth the wait.

Hello Everyone, This is my first time to post a thread thought I'd give it a shot. With the winter season upon us, I was curious as to what people's favorite activities were to beat the cold. One of my favorite ones is to go out for several hours on my snowmobile and come back and make a roaring fire to sit down in front of with a lovely lady and sip on a nice bourbon or hot chocolate with bailey's. I hope that everyone can enjoy the winter season and has a sexy sensual women to snuggle up with. If not there are many here on cerb. You know who you are ;) Merry Christmas!

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I also find this thread interesting, from my point of view, it is simply this, if I want to see a lady and her rates are 700.00+++ for two hours or more I do so without hesitation it is because of the attraction it is because what she has to say in her ad's, it because I want to see her. I see no reason what so ever for a lady to drop her rates to be in a "competition" If that is what some are calling it. I've always been of the mind set that not all ladies do this on a full time regular basis, and have a life to live so where is the competition? Other than there is many ladies for men to choose from(especially in our market area-Ottawa) but if a lady needs to reduce her rate, perhaps she is doing this full-time and it does become a competition, OR maybe her only source of income,than so be it. I've seen ladies from the high spectrum, to the normal spectrum for the our area, and I'm happy to see either lady at either rate. I think Kylie said it very well above...... "things work themselves out: she'll drop her rates or won't have any appointments. It's that simple."

Hmmmm I love music and definitely loved the music of 2012: Mumford and Sons - I will wait :)

OK.. now this is why arguments go to hell in a hand basket around here very quickly. Not that I would ever try and win an argument with Wikipedia being my primary source, but you clipped only the part of the article that supported your argument and left out the very part that disagree with you. The article defines GFE in very different terms for sex-workers in general and even mentions that strippers can offer GFE experience even within the confines of the club, with no intercourse or oral sex. To make me shake my head even more, you advertise yourself on your CERB profile as a "Luxury GFE-MA" as per my original post I was just quoting somebody else who I totally agreed with add as far as me being a luxury gfe ma , i just go with the flow with the way things are done in Ottawa where I come from GFe is explained in 1 way as in Edmonton massage like this does not exist it's all SP services

It's been many days and many miles since I've seen her last but it doesn't take much to get her beside me. In my imagination, anyway. All I have to do is close my eyes and I can feel her hair brushing my face again, her lips kissing my mouth. I can feel her soft skin in my hands, smell her faint perfume. I can see her smile, wide as the open prairie, when she sees me again. I can still hear her gentle laugh, caressing my ears. I blush to think of the things we've done. Things that I never had imagined I would ever do, much less relish. She's my freak with an angel's face, wanting to try more, more, more. She's both the angel and the devil on my shoulders, whispering the kinkiest suggestions in my ear with an innocent smile. But she holds me and kisses me softly afterwards as I gasp for breath, wide eyed and half in shock. I miss her, my girl. More than she will ever know. More than I could ever tell her. For you see, I can't just tell her the way I feel. I can't say that I care. I can't tell her that I've missed her. It's just not done, you see. For this business we're in is one of temporary bliss, part-time love doled out an hour or two at a time. It's just intended to be a dollop of joy to spice up my bland existence. There are no forevers, no happily ever afters. Hell, I'm never even fully sure whether she'll be around for a next time. I can't say how I feel. Because I know I would join the ranks of her ex-lovers. One of those guys who got too clingy. Too needy. Too creepy. One of the guys who was just too much trouble. So I play it cool. I make sure I leave her home with a smile, a broad ear-to-ear one that I can no more hold back than I can stop the sun from rising or the snow from falling. And I also smile when I think of her on dark winter nights such as these. But that smile is a wistful one, one she will never see or imagine I have when I think of her. No, I can't tell her the way I feel. But I can pour my heart out in these tales. And I'll joke with her the next time I see her. Great story? Thanks, yeah, it's fictional. It's kind of based on that other lady. And I'll laugh and smile again, an anxious smile, and hope she doesn't notice my eyes not quite meeting her gaze. I'll kiss her then, and we'll romp again. And I'll leave another tiny bit of myself behind. Again.

How To Destroy Angels - Ice Age It's different from what they've done before... I really didn't like it on the first listen, but it has really grown on me. It's certainly a different sound than where they've gone before... I love The Space Inbetween and use it in session... http://youtu.be/nWbfgGDl6XE

Dis-ingenuous advertisers whom are by choice unwilling, and thus by extension, unable to substantiate or clarify their advertised claims when saying one thing in their ads before admitting otherwise they don't actually do what their ads say - yet continues to claim (through willfully ignoring facts; espousing baseless assertions; ignoring questions; blaming others for their failures) their opinion is fact and applies to all people in their industry irregardless of the real proven facts which already exist about advertising standards previously created by other true professional people when advertising specifics in their industry; while also not having the support of the industry as a whole when attempting to speak for the World they work in. Lame. Moreso sad than a pet peeve are also people whom suck up to proven failed advertisers to try and gain something from providing empty emotional platitudes to logical failure. Sad to see the sell-out continue, but c'est la vie - actions speak louder than words! ...and tags! I hate tags on lingerie - Makes me think: Since when did Angels shop at La Vie en Rose or La Senza and not in Heaven?? :S haha

Discretion is the better part of valor. I have a part time employee who has been giving me fits lately with inattention, tardiness, and brain cramps. She recently went through a messy domestic relationship breakup and I have been cutting her a LOT of slack- partly out of respect for her mother (a valued employee) and partly out of sympathy- but it has been wearing thin and costing me money. She has two children (4,1) and a useless ex and this morning, she took her youngest to the hospital. Long story short, her child is very sick and may be hospitalized for several weeks.I am so thankful I didn't blow up at her recently and terminate her employment.....but it was close. The good part is that I can cut her a paycheck and an early Christmas bonus. The part that sucks is that she will spend her second Christmas in a row at the hospital with her son. Last year, he survived meningitis.

Today I bought a very sexy and elegant blue cobalt dress that perfectly hugs my curves for a special date this Saturday :D

Having dinner with Emily Rushton...

I will disagree. The term GFE started getting used because of a change in the way escorts and other full-service providers started interacting with their clients. At one point in time it was very unusual for these people to kiss their clients or indulge in anything much more than the act itself. (no MSOG, bust a nut and you were done) As the interaction changed over time the term GFE started being used to indicate you were going to get kissing, and other interactions, more than slipping on the condom and getting off. Hence, more like a Girl-friend experience, than a paid service. It is an adjectival phrase that describes what type of service you are going to get. It is an adjective, not a noun. You don't get GFE. Your service was of the GFE variety. In massage, the term GFE means you are getting that type of massage. Again, as a change in the way service is being offered in that domain. At one point in time (and in certain places still) you would not be able to kiss the MA, you wouldn't shower together, you wouldn't hug and cuddle, you wouldn't be able to reciprocate touch, or do a reverse massage. You would get a rub and a tug. The GFE phrase came along to describe those providers who have a more intimate experience with their clients, including but not limited to the activities listed above. Either way there is no agreed upon definition of GFE, or its variant Safe GFE. It means different things to every person, and even those who offer it will usually say YMMV. You have to ask the provider, MA or SP, what they offer. As to the comments I read earlier about MA's don't allow DATY, or digits or whatever, my question would be: according to who? I know some who do offer that, and some who don't, but again it is a YMMV. If someone can point out to me in the Big Book of MA Rules, where I can find that written down, then I will run right down to Chapters and buy a copy. None of this is black and white. We all have our comfort zones, and we all have different experiences. Just because lips touch genitalia does not an SP make. In fact according to the OED paying someone for any kind of sexual service is prostitution. I think masturbating someone to orgasm is a sexual service. So according to our language, it is just a matter of degree. Trying to shoe horn others into your beliefs is a little bit too schoolyard for me. If their is no intent to mislead, or deceive, then let people describe what they do with terms they like and feel comfortable with. Additional Comments: OK.. now this is why arguments go to hell in a hand basket around here very quickly. Not that I would ever try and win an argument with Wikipedia being my primary source, but you clipped only the part of the article that supported your argument and left out the very part that disagree with you. The article defines GFE in very different terms for sex-workers in general and even mentions that strippers can offer GFE experience even within the confines of the club, with no intercourse or oral sex. To make me shake my head even more, you advertise yourself on your CERB profile as a "Luxury GFE-MA"

One MA adopted GFE into her advertising in early 2010, so almost 3 years now. She has been successful b/c she is very enthousiastic and sensual in her service and has many recommendations. A few other MA's have picked up on using the term but I have to agree with many here (esp. KK) that the term should not be used in conjunction with massage.

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I always thought the price reflected the level of service (NOT services) offered by the escort or courtesan. For example: When I see an SP, I like to engage in stimulating conversation and a pot of tea... Before she pays any amorous attention to me. Sometimes we meet someplace for lunch or dinner. Just my two cents....

Thank you everyone for the warm and friendly welcomes and also for your words of wisdom. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all. Seems like we have a pretty solid group here. I feel very fortunate to have found my way here. Posted via Mobile Device

i use to wear my walrus costume to bed, but the ex kept getting mat because the tusks kept poking her. now i sleep naked and shes the ex, she was weird anyways

Doesn't it simply come down to the fact that one should never assume and questions prior to an encounter (any encounter) are probably a really good idea?

I hope that that fellows here are not believing they are being fed false info when a "GFE Massage" is advertised. I for one fully know the difference between between the expectations I should have and the service I will receive from an SP and an MA. If some guys are getting DATY and Rimming from Mas...good for them Like Pistol Pete (above) I like both, in different ways, and quite honestly my favourite "GFE MA" (Jessica) can make me feel the "experience" of her being my girlfriend in our time together even more intensely then an SP can, so I as a client do not really get bogged down in the defining of a GFE massage. I do expect some form of kissing will happen, but that is the only thing I expect...true enough, I enjoy some other things from different Mas that are ymmv. I know that this post doesn't help the OP with his query, other than to suggest it's not something to get hung up on...If it feels good with the ma you are with..do it...again, and again, and.... What it boils down to me for me is that nobody can actually make me feel any way...I am the only one that can make me feel, from within, the way I do. The MA in this case is the stimulus for that feeling....and it feels good!

its all semantics really.... re: the original post....I like to dress business casual or like i would on a dressy evening out with friends. as said before there are sexy types of jeans, which when paired with the right high leather boot or high heel and pretty top can look just as flattering. I'm also a fan of wearing nice tight dress-pants in the winter and a blazer overtop of a sexy cleavage top....of course with a nice warm winter-jacket overtop. when i worked in Toronto and my driver would drive me around he would point out the girls who worked for such and such agency who were arriving at hotels looking like they were dressed for prom...it totally drew attention and I'd say "really?" I personally don't like getting requests for short skirts in the winter-time....unless the customer is okay with me bringing a skirt to change into if its that important ...but then again i find that clothing changes take up valuable time that a customer could spend undressing me in the first place ;)

I believe the OP posting their Question in the first place clearly answers that, along with some of the opinions given here indifferent of the facts (and indifferent to responding to the valid points in my 1st post), and the fact any MA would feel the need to use a long-standing and commonly known industry-wide Internet-filled Escort term to 'differentiate' themselves. In other words: No - it is Not. This appears all 'new' to MAs. Evidently, Erin. Personally, I find black and white lines much more flattering in my advertising :) Thus the very common use of the term GFE specifically by SPs to define said different 'tyoe of service'. This is clear. What's now not clear is why MAs would feel the need to use a long-standing Escorting Naming Standard originated by Escorts in the Escort Business which has always defined a type of Escorting Service - to try and describe their non-Escorting type of Services as, of course, MAs are not SPs, but rather MAs - and don't want the 2 to be confused? ...while obviously creating this 'grey' area (As Sensual Erin commented on above) which never existed before and seems to want to be perpetuated to whatever end... Exactly, and when a lady does GFE she is a SP as per the services of which a GFE has always been defined as for which SPs thought up of and created the term GFE for in to be different from MAs in the first place - and if one offers masseuse services - then she is a MA. (As PassionVitto commented on above.) Therefore, imho, otherwise, unnecessary market confusion is created by some MAs (or anyone else for that matter) - in otherwise mis-using said Escort terminology. ...and blanketly including all MAs into this 'new change' and 'grey zone' which has now confused the market, possibly disrupting business as usual? Should? Then are all 'non-GFE massages' (if I may create that term (TM pending :P )) - interpreted as always being a mechanical encounter within a non-sensual setting by all other MAs? Such as with yourself not advertising a GFE massage? ...and the other MAs you work with? If that was the case - then I am left to wonder why CERB did not create a commercial spa and paid ads forum rather than the separate SP and MA forums which now exist? Yes - agree 100%! We need clarity of current market confusion created by the MA 'grey zone' in using Escorting terminology in advertising before other MAs inadvertently fall into this. [CERB Rocks!] If I may ask - where did you 1st see the Escorting term GFE used for the MA business? Here on CERB? ...and do All of your ladies whom advertise 'GFE Massage' kiss and hug and all those whom don't advertise 'GFE massage' don't kiss and hug? Sounds like you describing a 'GF Massage' (see my previous post) - not a GFE (Escort) Massage - which has already been defined by Escorts for Escorting so as not too cause market confusion - such as this. Thanks in Advance Angie for your clarification about GFE Massage Services and your MAs :) I'm waiting to understand how all this works before I see any MAs. Where have you seen this before - got a link? What you describe above seems par for the course with all the SPs I have ever seen. This is not common for MAs? (Sidebar - If I may ask: What do you mean by 'not necessarily' - it's 'possible' with you/other MAs ?) Yes. Yes I can, and Yes I have! Simple philosophy in life I carry (since nearly dying various times) - always make love like its my last time. That is: Passionately ;) I expect someone with a sexy nick like yours to appreciate this :) Correct me if I am wrong... Part of the business is perpetual clarification (and minimization?) of said misunderstandings, and prevention and remediation of any 'grey zones' created therein - especially when and where known to happen? (...for the better of the industry as a hole - rather than the now opposite effect it appears to be having?) Easily: With clear advertising toward the respective targeted markets, which, albeit can be crossed - doesn't necessarily mean everyone is. I would assume both SPs and MAs care about their clients, as much as I, as a client (which I only speak of as myself and noth other hobbyists), are looking to see whom is a MA and whom is a SP, and their respective services for which specific industry targeted terminology (such as GFE for and by Escorts) is created in making advertising clear - for me to find what I am looking for (including caring). ...or were you being rhetorical with that Q? Hobbying is not a speculative industry, per se (nor, imho, does it or should it be), and menus are industry standard in order to display a SPs passions (vs. un-passionate 'restrictions'; as I would assume; if no need - why even have CERB? --bites tongue--) - thus the use of clear terms by SPs such as GFE & PSE - whereby it's not 'roulette' toward whether I, as a client, luck out and find a SP I like when looking for a SP, or finding a MA I like when looking for a MA. Seems like quite a gamble with high potential for many continued disappointments (wasted time and money and clients .. and industry? (if left unabated?)) when not necessary - as SPs and MAs can (and do) easily provide clear communications and simply use already established common terminology for each respective industry. (ex: the great websites some ladies have - you know who you are! ;) ) Otherwise - YMMV Greatly! ...and not in a good way. :sad: Yes! Thus, again, the need for clarification as to why MAs all of a sudden feel the need to now start using SPs terms to describe services which they do not provide as a industry standard (which already uniquely defines the differences between a lady choosing to be a SP or MA or otherwise). 'Homework' can be made easy with clear and proper use of industry terms, as previously commonly applied respective to MAs and SPs without causing any 'grey zones' on this 'GFE (but not GFE services) Massage' thingie. Believe you me, I have done heaps of 'homework' over the decades. Looking forward to your clarification (and anyone else from the business/hobby) towards MAs now feeling the need to start using SP terms to (apparently) differentiate themselves amongst MAs while not actually providing the advertised SP GFE Services for which GFE was, and is, created for :) ...rather than use already common MA terms, or even as I suggest - a 'GF Massage' (which seems fitting based on your description of services, rather than now create this grey zone of market confusion in trying to use the GFE term to describe, as made clear - non-SP services). Otherwise - use at own risk I guess? :S Unfortunately. Grey zones in hobby advertising makes me un-horny! :( Anyone else? Cheers! :) -------- I respectfully do not concur. 'GFE' is GFE as defined by Escorts and 'enjoy(ing) your girlfriend' is enjoying your girlfriend, as defined by you and your girlfriend. Seem like you are mixing apples and oranges. I have never had a 'one-dimensional' SP GFE ...and I don't ever expect to ;) Hopefully you and no one else ever does.

If I had to choose I would prefer a woman in a hoodie or some cute T-shirt, but that is just more relatable for me. I am a different case though because I don't mind the woman not being super feminine, because I am not looking for heterosexuality. But if the SP was a femme or just into wearing dresses or whatever for work then I am not going to complain. I always worry about if I am making sex workers uncomfortable in any way, so whatever is their preference of clothing is fine.

I honestly don't care what she wears and I tell them that. I've already done my homework and have a purty good idea what's behind door #2, but sexy clothing definitely gets the heart pounding. Jeans and T are also cool. I know I'm going to spend the first bit of time checking her out from the shoulders up and if my instincts are right, her personality is going to be my number 1 turn-on.

just posted a new album with some rather worn and torn stockings (don't worry boys...I've bought new ones since ;-))

Looking deep within myself for some long, intense, and very reflective self-exploration.....and coming to the startling realization that......I'm really NOT too old to still think farts are funny!

I am in total agreement with Mr.BCB...... I would say that most people think of GFE in terms of full service. You may come up with arguments that a gfe massage and a gfe escort services are at a different levels of what gfe constitues but as far as I`m concerned, it just confuses the matter and the expectations.

I dunno tights jeans with high heels...--stare at bum-- is pretty feminine to me

Sorry - but I find the use of 'GFE Massage' very misleading and very inaccurate. 'GFE' is an Escort Term created by Escorts for Escorting - which begets Oral (DATY, DATO and/or CBJ/BBBJ) and/or FS. So to try and 're-define' the term and try to lure in Escort Hobbyists to get massages is, in my humble opinion, unfortunate and a major turn off for me. I don't tell people I shovel snow for a living and then show up to mow the lawn :S I've never, NEVER, met a guy whom either did, or was looking, for a GF just to have massages with - and never have sex. :S NEVER. Makes no sense. This is 1/2 the reason why the MA/MPs now have there own Area - so as Not to keep misleading Hobbyists (intentionally or mistakenly). Wasting time asking Questions to a MA in the SP section whom doesn't say she is a MA until after several emails. Lame. So un-attractive. Maybe it's a 'GF Massage' some ladies offer, but as per the definition of GFE - it's way more than just a massage. This is even clearly outlined here in this Thread - real GFE services Not included in so-called 'GFE Massages'. (Yeah, and you having snow on the lawn while I mow is Your mis-interpretation or my services right? Not mine?? ...as I now re-define snow as grass? :S ) GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1311&highlight=acronyms A call girl advertising the provision of a "girlfriend experience" is implying that she provides deep french kissing (DFK), "full service" (intercourse) usually with protection, and fellatio and cunnilingus, both with or without protection. Advertising a "girlfriend experience" is sometimes used by call girls to promote business. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience Like the others said, GFE=Girlfriend experience. In some situations, it also means that the prostitute/escort is willing to perform some services without condoms, akabarebacked, usually blowjobs(BBBJ). http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gfe There's even a movie called The Girlfriend Experience (with Sasha Grey - & FYI: She's No Masseuse! ;) ) Anyone got links showing where GFE has changed it's definition to Not included Oral/FS - and now has 2 meanings - 1 for MAs and 1 for SPs?? I look forward to seeing where this has changed, as I enjoy keeping up with the times :) Food for thought! ;) PS: Great Question Ironsman1 - Clarity over services is what CERB is all about :)

How To Shower Like a Woman: Take off clothing and place it in sectioned laundry hamper according to lights and darks. Walk to bathroom wearing long dressing gown. If you see husband along the way, cover up any exposed areas. Look at your womanly physique in the mirror - make mental note to do more sit-ups/leg-lifts,etc. Get in the shower. Use face cloth, arm cloth, leg cloth, long loofah,wide loofah and pumicestone. Wash your hair once with cucumber and sage shampoo with 43 added vitamins. Wash your hair again to make sure it's clean. Condition your hair with grapefruit mint conditioner enhanced. Wash your face with crushed apricot facial scrub for 10 minutes until red. Wash entire rest of body with ginger nut and jaffa cake body wash. Rinse conditioner off hair. Shave armpits and legs. Turn off shower. Squeegee off all wet surfaces in shower. Spray mold spots with Tilex. Get out of shower. Dry with towel the size of a small country. Wrap hair in super absorbent towel. Return to bedroom wearing long dressing gown and towel on head. If you see husband along the way, cover up any exposed areas. How To Shower Like a Man: Take off clothes while sitting on the edge of the bed and leave them in a pile. Walk naked to the bathroom. If you see wife along the way, shake wiener at her making the 'woo-woo' sound. Look at your manly physique in the mirror. Admire the size of your wiener and scratch your butt. Get in the shower. Wash your face. Wash your armpits. Blow your nose in your hands and let the water rinse them off. Fart and laugh at how loud it sounds in the shower. Spend majority of time washing privates and surrounding area. Wash your butt, leaving those coarse butt hairs stuck on the soap. Wash your hair. Make a Shampoo Mohawk. Pee. Rinse off and get out of shower. Partially dry off. Fail to notice water on floor because curtain was hanging out of tub the whole time. Admire wiener size in mirror again. Leave shower curtain open, wet mat on floor, light and fan on. Return to bedroom with towel around waist. If you pass wife, pull off towel, shake wiener at her and make the 'woo-woo' sound again. Throw wet towel on bed. Cheers! And, "woo woo"!!! :b

This Friday I booked again with Aubrey. Every time I book with her the experience just gets better. She is in a new location equipped with a Jacuzzi and that really peaked my interest. As usual I had no problems setting up a date and she was very accommodating to my schedule. She set a great mood with candles and wine. We talked for what I thought was hours (but not really). It was so relaxing and felt completely natural. Of course we eventually ended the night with some adult fun but the entire experience was something I'll have in my mind for a long time. This woman is a sweet heart and if you treat her with respect you can expect a great time. She is a real treasure on our little island. Highly recommended.

Although this thread goes back to 2010 Emily Rushton is a touring lady who I believe still goes to St. John's. And I agree 110 percent with Scott, she is a lady well worth spending time with. Every time I see her, well the visits get better and better, and the encounters aren't just memorable, they are wonderful memories too RG

As I ride and have ridden through my roller coaster ride, all I feel, felt and saw are my ups and downs. Swirling through mid air going faster and faster, I pause and experience the nausea. On another fine sunny day, I decided to go in line for another ride. This time really allowing myself to hang back from the turnstile to enjoy the excitement of my wild imagination. While hanging back, my eyes awaken before me faced with the charge of adrenaline again. Feeling the rush and the shame. Oh how amazing the nature of the ride was and to have ridden it as fast as I felt it deep with within my insides. Racing back in my thoughts, though the lines appear eternal yet the conditions very overwhelming. The elation surges through me like ive never known. Being so sure of this ride remaining forever committed to its upkeep and enjoyment as I keep on smiling.