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I have not been on very much of late and it seems as if there have been intermittent server issues. The intermittent things are the most difficult to find and fix! I have never written this before but have said it to a number of people. This site is pretty amazing and is very sophisticated in the way that it functions. It is user friendly, easy to navigate, and thanks to Mod is responsive to suggestions from our community of members. To the Mod, a good luck with the server issues and a huge thanks for the work that you do on our behalf, clients and SP's alike.

Be careful what you wish for Jimmy. All sp's are exclusive. Remember, they get to choose who they see. Yes, everyone has bills to pay, but women in this industry generally and cerb in particular, don't have to see just anybody. While they offer a girlfriend experience, as one woman said to me she's hoping for a boyfriend experience too! So what does that mean? It starts with respect, being considerate, very, very clean and hopefully there's some chemistry (personal and sexual) that allows you to both click. This is why most women choose to see older men. It doesn't start with how much money you have to spend or how young and good looking you are. As for rates, despite all the discussion this topic can generate, most of the women charge within a similar price range per hour give or take $50-100. The primary difference you'll see with respect to pricing is whether a minimum amount of time is specified. Some will allow half hour appointments while others require a minimum 2-3 hours. Yes, the 2-3 hour appointment costs more, but is generally similar with respect to hourly rate. Why the minimum? There can be a variety of reasons. Some women have other sources of income and this approach works best for their schedules and financial needs. Others prefer sufficient time to make a more personal connection. It can be a difficult business and this is how it works best for some women. In other cases the woman may have a graduate degree, be well travelled or multilingual and is therefore able to easily maneuver through the subtleties of various social and business functions. You're paying for that service as well. If you're curious you can see advertisements and reviews for these women in larger cities such as Toronto or Vancouver. My advise is similar to other posters. Choose someone that you think you're attracted to and that you think you might click with. Forget about "the most expensive and exclusive". You're not choosing different models of cars or designers ("Tell me who's the Lamborghini or Armani of service providers"). It's more personal for both of you than that and remember, you're part of the equation, so you should bring something to the table in addition to money. Good luck.

WOW! Pedestal? Meet Cinderella! You really shouldn't base your opinion on the provider's donation requirement but on your interaction(ie emails etc) with her and perhaps maybe her recos as well as her interactions on the board. This ain't Hollywood baby lol but I am sure that should you feel more comfortable with a higher donation, no one will object to a generous gift!

I was cleaning the basement the other day and stumbled upon some old porn vhs tapes that I had forgotten.And yes I do have a working vcr. Now while I was looking at one I had forgotten how beautiful a hairy kitty is. Now don't get me wrong I like the feel of my tongue gliding and caressing a freshly shaved kitty it feels so good but I remember back in the late 70's and earley 80's spending alot of time up close and personnel with some beautiful hairy ones. There's nothing like gently removing a nice pair of panties and finding a beautiful soft hairy kitty, the feel of it on yoir nose and chin was simply amazing. Omg I am getting hard just thinking about it. Don't you think its time we go back to a nice soft hairy kitty,I mean we have had retro clothing and retro hair and cars how about retro kitty. Anyone else feel as I do?

I lean toward the other end of the hair spectrum. For those ladies who go bald, does it have to be a regular, daily shave or something like a once a week task? How does one get to be soooo smooth? I've seen some immaculate baldness in my day. Right up close and comfortable. Not a hint of stubble and no road rash either. Wow. Impressive. A freshly shorn beav is a thing of beauty.

In theory, yes. By any standards, sleeping with someone else (paid or otherwise) without permission of your partner is cheating. That being said, I don't think it should be considered cheating, with all the associated stigma that goes along with that. Men and women (who are partnered) seek out escorts for a variety of reasons, but it usually (in my experience) has to do with something that is missing from their relationship with their partner (for whatever reason--no interest, illness, because they're human beings who can't be expected to fulfill every need at all times, etc). While I do think that partners should be honest with each other about their needs/desires/feelings, I also think that society generally needs to be honest about sex and learn to take value in sex itself. If more people realized that sex isn't this sacred thing that should only be shared with certain people, but that it is more akin to feeding oneself--something you have to do to live, as it can affect not only your physical sense of self, but also your mental health--then I think that seeing escorts would be less stigmatized. But of course, these are only my personal ideals. I'm not sure we'll ever get to a place where everyone isn't all kinds of fucked up about sex. Partners have no need to feel jealous or inadequate or unloved if their SO seeks out the company of escorts. Yes, if your partner does it without your permission, you have a right to be upset--about the lie, not the act itself.

I could agree with all of this and say ... "yeah so what?" (not in any sort of angry or aggressive way ... just more a "shrug and a why does it matter" sort of way) This is one of those perennial questions that comes up on boards. Many people here are married, many of us use the services of SPs. I've long ago came to terms with the issue of "cheating". Yes, I cheat. Done. Does it bother me ... not in the least. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I hope the people that know me, including the ladies on this board, don't think I'm a bad person. We all have the reasons why we hobby. So long as we aren't motivated by a desire to hurt anyone -- either our spouses or the ladies on this board -- well then it really isn't for anyone to judge. I suppose in that senes that's my answer to the follow up question ... is it wrong to cheat. Can't judge, unless you've walked in someone else's shoes and confronted the choices they've had to make. Porthos

Hmmmmmm...... Your looking for the most expensive and exclusive..... ever considered marriage? ;-)

To everyone here. Over the past weeks I've posted about my dad's cancer. I have received in many PM's, comments, posts etc words of sympathy and support. I just wanted to say thank you all for your support. It really is appreciated This board is much more than an escort board, it truly is a community Again to all of you out in CERBLand, your collective support is appreciated more than you know Thank you RG

Walking is great excercise, consider this as a means to kill two birds with one stone and Walk to Wal-mart! I love walking in the winter especially at night or early morning the brisk air is a motivator to step up the pace and it's a great way to discover your surroundings!

I dunno about that. Let's consider the difference between "I'd like to punch that guy in the face!" and actually punching that guy in the face. The first is harmless and healthy; letting yourself feel angry is an important step in dealing with both your own anger and the issue at hand. --Acting-- on the anger by actually punching someone, though, is a whole different thing and the real-world action involves risks and costs. I think the key issue isn't the state of mind at all, but rather the act that we choose to take as a result (or don't).

Ask your SO. If they consider it cheating, then it probably is. If you don't feel like you can ask your SO, then it also probably is. No. There's a lot of difference between temptation and succumbing to that temptation. The cookies that I merely lust after do not show up on my waistline. Of course, none of that casts any light on whether "cheating" is good, bad, or neutral...

Nope!!!!!! :D

If a person is in a relationship and does not the permission of the other person, then it is cheating. Personally I don't find a lot of depth to it since it is a pretty black and white area to me.

Dad is slipping away, I don't know if I'm going to get to see him one last time. He is alive, but not living Besides the leukemia which has mesastized to his lungs and bones, he now has fluid in his lungs and blood clots. They are using blood thinners to clear the clots but because of the thinners they can't drain the fluid in his lungs for fear of bleeding He is no longer at home, he is in intensive care. He wasn't even allowed to move himself from the gurney to his bed in ICU for fear a clot would move, six orderlies had to pick him up and move him I hope they expedite this passport fast, so I can see him one last time RG

Don't usually get around to posting as most of the time there isn't much reason to, but I figured this one might be worth the story. Anyways, to begin my evening I ended up driving a few of my friends downtown to some pub crawl for their work. I didn't particularly want to drive home immediately so I figured why not swing by Barbs and enjoy the sights before heading home. Very glad I did. Went in, checked my coat, ordered a drink and sat down. I must have just missed her stage show as she wasn't on the floor when I arrived but fairly quickly after sitting down out walks Brooklyn from the back. Brooklyn is a very attractive woman so she caught my eye almost immediately. Now I'm a fairly shy type individual so I don't typically go ask the girls for dances unless they come to me. Luckily this time I didn't have to contemplate if I should or not as she ended up coming straight to me and asked to sit. Of course I oblige, because it would be rude not to right? Brooklyn immediately starts having a conversation with me that didn't for one moment feel forced. That is always something I enjoy versus the girls who immediately ask to go to the CR or look bored sitting. Brooklyn is an excellent conversationalist who despite my inability to form coherent sentences most the time, carried the conversation easily. After a fair bit of time she asked if I wanted a dance, and by this time I was more than happy to oblige. Now I won't go into detail on exactly what she does for her private dances but I will say this. It was the most sensual, intimate interaction I have ever had. She is the master of the tease and suffice to say the things she did were just unfair to mankind's collective libido. After an exhausting session in the CR we returned to the floor where we had a drink and we sat together talking for at least a couple hours before she had to go on stage again. Her stage show was amazing to watch, the effort she put into her moves did nothing but show her amazing gymnastic talent. I lucked out because an amazing looking woman from the crowd joined her on stage, and all I can say is what ended up happening was literally jaw dropping. What this rambling on post is meant to say is pretty much this: Go see Brooklyn at Barbs as it is worth every minute and every dollar. Side note of humour. I enjoyed the evening so much I forgot about my friends and the fact I should still have been downtown by that time, that 5 minutes after getting home I got called to go pick them up.

The holidays are absolute murder on my waistline. I've grown a couple of belt notches. The older I get, the harder it is to drop the beef. Frustrating! Wouldn't it be great if someone had the magic formula for weight loss. One can follow conventional wisdom: Exercise, Vegetables, Sleep, Repeat I have four words for this: Y A W N Why can't it be just as much fun to lose it as it was to gain it. Never mind. Just a senseless rant. But, just in case anyone has a magic formula - can you please share?

Doesn't the word cheat imply that there is deception? In that case, if you are deceiving your SO in order to see an escort, then it is cheating. Remember also you are spending shared income on an sp. I know people have their own money, etc etc, and one is not necessarily dependent on the other, but if the sex part doesn't matter then lying about where the money is going could be considered another way of cheating. There may be different moralities involved, which I agree with another poster, don't bother me, nor do they concern me. I don't put that same requirement on people, in other words to stay faithful sexually. There are many ways to stay faithful, just as there are many ways to be unfaithful. You can neglect your SO in ways that cause far more damage to their self esteem and happiness than just not having sex with them. It is quite a cycle.

The only thing close to magic is Cardio, Cardio, Cardio. I have gone through a variety of them this past year and had my most fun with the upright bike. I just mount on it with my music on and keep going for an hour at an high intensity 3 to 4 days a week. But like someone said earlier, everyone is different. Try out various forms of cardio exercises or equipments and if rusty, that is fine as your endurance builds if you keep up with it. this helps keep a steadily high metabolism to burn off fat as long as your keep your carb intake low. I started off with just lasting 5 mins on the bike at the beginning of the last year but now im steady at 50 to 75 mins every other day. The food part is quite important too. Just try to avoid raw sugars and carbs and go with more fibrous stuff like brown rice, unsalted nuts, oats. As well high protein foods like salmon and chicken breast.

Thanks Kechara for your response and support about my last post. I have reread it a few times now and I wanted to apologize for perhaps being a bit defensive. It seems I have my own issues to work through. Perhaps the discussion has poked a few holes in my own rationalizations on various issues. Either way, keep discussing. I don't want to be that guy who ends a thread by being overly sensitive. Thanks for the understanding. And no rg, it was not meant for you. I know that you are as non judgmental as they come. As for the question rg posed, I guess that also depends on many things. How serious the relationship is being one if them. I don't think disclosure regarding being an sp is required on the first date but hopefully it has come up by the time they are married. But again, who am I to judge? ;-)

Getting an email and just not knowing what to respond even after many times of reading it. Being confused sucks!!

Ha..losing weight is not that hard...keeping it off is the hard part. For the guys I suggest that you lose 30-40lbs, then get in over your head with some beautiful ladies here on CERB that are much younger than you...they will flatter you, and you will like it...a lot, and be motivated to eat healthy and exercise like a fiend to maintain your new physique....There you go...sounds easy enough doesn't it?

Kudos to Mod for everything associated with this fabulous site. A community exists and thrives due to his efforts. I think he needs to set something up like Cowboy Kenny has, so that we can buy him a beer! Porthos

Thanks EmilyJ for creating and posting such amazing posts/pics in the Oral Group. Pics of our CERB ladies are the best!

Thanks again everyone for joining the Oral Lovers Group and for all of your awesome contributions! :cooter: Upon logging in this morning, I have noticed that after the CERB upgrade, there is now more options in the group. So I have used the new features and started new threads for different kinds of pictures and discussions in an attempt to keep things more organized. All the original content it still there, in the thread entitled "General Discussion". Feel free to re-post any contributions you have already made to the new appropriate category, to give it even more attention! If you have any suggestions to make the group better, please don't by shy! And please keep the delicious contributions cumming!! :bj2: And Thank You to Mod for the new social group features! :)

Yes it's cheating. Unless aggreed by the other. If it's not something you received the permission first, would you be okay telling your partner after? If the answer is no, then it's cheating. In a relation between 2 or more people, they are some rules that all must aggree. Even if it's as simple as "no rules". If the people don't aggree to the "rules" either there's no relation or they continue together because that one point is less important then the relation. That's just the definition. (without going if it's right or wrong) If there's an exchange and one of the partie doesn't know all about it, there's deception and it's cheating. No different then putting microscopic fine prints on a contract. Additional Comments: That's more or less how i think. While i think i could very well find someone that satisfy me completly in the "classical" marriage sense, if there's a need somewhere, it should be shared between the SOs. Being cheated on would really hurt me (cause of the lie) but if a gf talked about it to me and "asked" the permission to get satisfaction elsewhere, i'd probably aggree. In fact, i was in an online relation once and she had full permission to keep having sex with whoever she wanted. It didn't seem fair that she stopped having sex just because she loved me and i couldn't get some on my side.

Not only that, but why should she have to deal with a husband pestering her constantly for something she doesn't want to provide? If the emotional connection is still there, just let him see escorts. Again, this is my personal opinion, which I don't expect everyone to have, but I think that expecting a marriage partner to be able to fulfill all your needs, is unrealistic. There are over six billion (probably more, I'm not up on my world stats) in this world and we're supposed to believe that there is one person for us who will be perfect for us and we'll live happily ever after until we both die of old age in each others' arms? RIIIIGHT. It just makes more sense to go through life knowing that no one is perfect and can live up to such unrealistic standards; different people can fulfill different needs and it doesn't make any one of them any less important.

Well I'll toss this in as food for thought. Strictly speaking assuming a monogamous relationship and marriage is founded in part on the phrase (part of marriage vows) "forsake all others" Whether having an affair or seeing an escort, you are not forsaking all others, so you would I guess be cheating. But, to throw a curve in here, how often does cheating happen because of a sexless marriage. A generalization here, the wife chooses not to have sex...is it fair that the man has to forgo sex because the wife refuses to have sex? There is a quid pro quo to the "forsake all others" and that is that the husband and wife are going to be for all time amongst other things, sexual partners, and that means a normal active sex life. When one partner removes sex from the marriage it is an invitation for the other partner to seek sexual companionship outside the marriage Why get married to live and continue to live a celibate life? By the scenario I posted cheating would be as much the wife's fault as the husband. Yes cheating may be bad, but may be the only thing holding the marriage together A rambling RG

Maurice Sendak's thoughts on getting old and dying. Worth five minutes of your time...

Well the word "cheating" in and of itself implies some form of deception. Therefore I would have to say that if you're completely upfront and honest with your partner....than no, you're not cheating....as there is no deception. Otherwise.....yup, it's cheating. Whether it's seeing an SP and getting everything, seeing a MA for just a "Happy Ending" or even just getting a lapdance at the local strip bar. If you're lying to your SO and hiding the fact that you're getting some form of sexual satisfaction from another person on the side.....then you're cheating. Just how I see it anyway.

I have to agree with this. Even thought it is cheating to me as I said above. I personally follow a live and let live rule. It is any persons choice on what they choose to do. It is not my choice to sit in judgement of another. Besides, I am not an angel myself .. :)

I likes the way you think!!!! Porthos Additional Comments: Again, there is so much about context that generalizations are difficult. I deeply love my SO. We have tons of emotional intimacy, but no physical intimacy. We've had sex once in 13 years (given the rarity it definitely stand out as worth remembering). She isn't interested, and I had to decide at a certain point in time whether remaining married and cheating, was preferable to staying loyal, celibate and (eventually) divorced. The pressures of the problems in our physical relationship were actually straining and destroying our love for each other. So ironically, this is a case where not cheating was going to destroy the relationship. Now I'm sure it's very easy to say I'm just rationalizing, and maybe I am. But I can live for that. I love my wife, but I have sex with other women who I also cherish and have the utmost respect and admiration for (and who, I might add, completely leave me gasping for air yes I'm thinking of you Gabriella Laurence). I don't think there is anything at all wrong with that. Porthos

I think it depends on the relationship one might be in. If your SO is in love with you and has given heart and soul to you, then it would be cheating if you are still with them and have deep feelings for them. If one is in a relationship that is devoid of intimacy and the SO wants nothing to do with you as far as intimacy goes, then it is a different kettle of fish. To me, cheating means sharing intimacy with someone other than your SO when your SO is able, willing, and wanting.

I think where people find a blurry line is that they consider a physical act not AS bad a an emotional affair. And although some mates might be less hurt by a one night meetup with an escort vs an affair with substantial feelings, it does not change the definition of cheating. Essentially cheating is crossing the level of intimacy acceptable (or discussed as acceptable, even though they may later change their mind) by both partners. So if you are having sex with an escort and your better half is there watching/participating/enjoying, then no it is not. If she is unaware and has expressed her feelings against it. (Or if none given, one would assume they would be against) Cheating means crossing the line. Whatever line that might be. Kissing another girl, flirting (some couples are more uptight than others) all of these could be cheating. It's not the act itself, it's the act as to where it stands in your relationship's agreed upon intimacy level with others. It's like asking if driving 100km/h is speeding. Can't answer that without knowing the speed limit of the road you are on. And the answer differs depending on that road.

Let's assume that we're discussing clients who are in a relationship and have a partner to cheat on, and the client hasn't discussed it with his partner and obtained her permission. Nor do the terms of their relationship simply allow it. But with that done... then: Yes. If your partner hasn't agreed to it then it's cheating. Everything else is a rationalization. Having established that, though, there are further issues: - What really is the nature and significance of cheating? - What circumstances give rise to cheating? - Are there cases where someone can understandably decide that cheating is better than the alternative of burning their domestic life down to the ground? That's a separate discussion maybe better saved for later in the thread once the preliminaries are done with. But fundamentally, I think the interesting part of this discussion isn't going to be your original question, whose answer seems unambiguous to me; rather, it's the followup issue: "Okay, so let's talk about cheating."

You're not wrong! Such a wonderful group of lovely ladies today, including, in no particular order, Kitty Claire Jazmine Celica Sarah Zoe Brennan Jenny Rebecca Mia I was lucky enough to be chosen by Sarah for post-Showcase table dance. Now very keen to spend more time with her.

I like Roamingguy just because he seems like a really nice guy. He is going through a difficult time now with the health issues facing his father so I know that we all wish him well and that our thoughts are with him and his family.

You should join the Natural Kitty Lovers group :) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/group.php?groupid=54 If you do a little research, there is also a few CERB ladies who go natural, or at least partially :)

I never saw an owl in flight. I never even imagined it.

lmao!!

Thought everyone on cerb would appreciate this one

I think the answer to your questions would be depending on ones idea of expensive. As we all charge a different rate and we all look at costs differently. Not trying to be evasive just answer fairly. Some may think 180 hourly is expensive and some will think 300 hourly is expensive. As far as exclusivity, that also would be depending on who you asked. We all have special skills, worthy of your time and others, notable qualities and attractiveness . The best thing for anyone seeking an encounter is to select an sp who physically appeals to them, speak to her, if the appeal continues check out her reco's if you so choose then book her to find out first hand what her experience is like . If you liked her and want to reco her then do that. We are all equally valuable, worthy of seeing just with different looks, availabilty, options, do's and don'ts.

Having to wait almost 3 weeks from the time of my dad's passing until his funeral.

This is a great point, and thank you for making it! :) I am not going to actually make a list, but I do want to say that there are very many interesting lads around here that I feel very fortunate to have met and many more whom I really hope to get the opportunity to meet in the new year! Thank you to all the CERB gentlemen for being interesting and funny and especially for making me feel welcome here at CERB! :) It has become kind of a safe and cozy second home to me. I feel free to be myself, and for that I am forever greatful! :biggrin: Thank you! I love you guys! :bowdown:

This is a recommendation board. Not a review board. I, along with many others, am happy to keep and enjoy it this way. All the best for 2013 to all!!!

Strange title: you may want to consider writing Has anyone met Autumn next time... Best, toine