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In addition to prostitution, there are a few other circumstances, activites and relationships that fall into the "exploitive" category and raise the age of consent to 18. These include pornography, authority, trust, dependency and Internet luring. The following excerpts are from a Dept of Justice FAQ regarding the age of consent for sexual activity.. "... the age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity "exploits" the young person -- when it involves prostitution, pornography or occurs in a relationship of authority, trust or dependency (e.g., with a teacher, coach or babysitter). Sexual activity can also be considered exploitative based on the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the young person's age, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed (quickly, secretly, or over the Internet) and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person." "The Criminal Code protects 16 and 17 year olds against sexual exploitation, where the sexual activity occurs within a relationship of trust, authority, dependency or where there is other exploitation. Whether a relationship is considered to be exploiting the 16 or 17 year old will depend upon the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the age of the young person, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person. As well, 16 and 17 year olds cannot consent to sexual activity that involves prostitution or pornography." "No one may make, distribute, transmit, make available, access, sell, advertise, export/import or possess child pornography. Child pornography is broadly defined and includes materials that show someone engaged in explicit sexual activity who is, or seems to be, under the age of 18 years; or show a young person's sexual organ or anal region for a sexual purpose. Child pornography also includes written and audio material that encourages others to commit a sexual offence against a child, or is primarily a description of unlawful sexual activity with a child that is intended for a sexual purpose." "No person may use a computer system, such as the Internet, to communicate with a young person for the purpose of facilitating the commission of a sexual or abduction offence against that young person. This offence is sometimes called "Internet luring"." Here's the full link: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/dept-min/clp/faq.html

While the age was not in the original ad, these guys absolutely knew she was underage. I replied to the ad, and the first sentence of the response was "Hi, I'm Chrissy. I'm 16 years old...." I immediately emailed the BP abuse account and also contacted crimestoppers.

Darlign gloryhole, I am truly sorry for your loss. I worked as a grief recovery facilitator for 13 years and I don't think you are ready for an intimate encounter at this point. I gently suggest you take a peek at The Grief Recovery Institute. They are leaders at helping people move thru loss and it's important that you address the situation head on. There are programs across the country and their handbook The Grief Recovery Handbook that you can pick up at any book store. Here is the website... http://www.grief.net/ I wish you all the best, please know there is a path forward... cat

I too am sorry for your experience with this SP Manitoba. But the talent pool in Winnipeg is huge and I can't quite understand how all SPs in Winnipeg can get lumped together because this one SP has trouble keeping her appointments. Why not try someone else? You have to remember that SPs couldn't survive without you, the client, and there are enough here who remember that and run their business this way. Liking how she looks is definitely a good place to start, but I doubt she's the Holy Grail, so why not do yourself a favour and choose another well-deserving SP who's known for being reliable? You work hard for your money and should be spent on someone who realizes that. Good luck to you.

Maybe not pedophila but definitely illegal Age old adage "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" No pity for them and glad they got caught in a sting RG

I appreciate your point and agree about your pedophiles comment. But when a man is going to hobby he needs to know the laws and rules just as we sp's need to. The law concerning protistution in this case considers dealing with a 16 year old exploitive sex, which is illegal and alot feel immoral as most adults feel 16 is a child, I do. Why would any man of maturity, 25 or over as the charged men were, want to be with someone so young? Legally it isn't pedophilia but morally it is, jmo. When an adult deals with a child to many bad things can happen, experience can be used to manipulate a young mind and coherce them into doing things they may not want to do ,are prepared to do or should even consider doing. I think the point of 16 being the age of consent is mute in this case. But I appreciate your point.

Founded to bring awareness to and to help stop bullying. Do you think there has been progress? If not what more do you think can be done to stop it?

Well if you want to cross hairs that it is not pedophilia a sixteen year old is still considered a minor. Anyone knows that. However, they might be considered " Hebephilia is defined as individuals with a primary or exclusive sexual interest in 11-14 year old pubescents or maybe they are Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19". If the 16 year old is lying about her age or has not fully reached maturity yet she would be considered pubescent. What ever term you want to use, it is still under the pedophilia family. Great idea about tattooing it across their forehead, however I think that ALL Child abusers who are convicted should have it tattooed on their nose. They can always cover up their forehead, but its pretty hard to cover up a big red dot on their nose labelling them as a child abuser.

As someone who has met Manitoba, I will say he is an ideal gentleman to spend time with. He is polite, respectable, follows a ladies booking policies and procedures to a tee. He is also upfront that he is driving in from a good distance away. Winnipeg it seems is hit and miss for Companions and Gentleman, as both side's of the fence have equal issues at times. Clearly it sounds like this SP in question had another booking and when mentioned you were driving in she thought you'd flake and she took another client. Not to slag anyone off, but thats clearly what it sounds like. Not everyone can be put in the same boat as this lady, but what she did was down right rude and very unprofessional. Not all of us run a business as she does. I am really sorry this happened to you and I really dont have an answer on how to book a lady that will keep an encounter, as there are many of us who do show up for our dates. I know how frustrated you are as the same thing happens to us with clients confirming and no showing.

i am sorry for your loss...and you miss your wife dearly....however Lola is NOT your wife, and I am afraid that your hope is to make love to your wife , and although Lola may remind you of her in pictures, I think there is a good chance you may be totally dissapointed...my suggestion would be to see someone who does not remind you of your wife, and take it from there. Down the road , once you come to better grips with everyuthing, then to play out that fantasy may be ok, but at this point, I would advise against it, unless you go in knowing full well what may happen. Again , my most sincere condolensecs.

Mourning is a difficult thing to go through. Everyone is different and there's no one "right" way to do it. But if it's been more than a year since your wife died, you might consider joining a group for people who have lost a partner. These are often fantastic! You can find out about them by contacting a funeral home, and I'd suggest you do that rather than go through the standard therapist route, at least at first. In many places, they try to bring together people who are close in age, or people who have children so that there's common ground for participants. it really can help a lot to hear how other people are dealing with situations similar to your own. Finding a companion or two can also be a good thing because you don't have to get into a full-blown relationship before you're ready for one (and you're not ready right now). You can have contact, intimacy and a private, one-on-one encounter without repercussions. If you want to see a companion more than once, go for it. If not, no worries. Attending to your physical needs can sometimes make it easier to work through emotional ones. Go easy on yourself!

Hey there sweetie. I love that you are still devoted to your wife and understand the pain you feel. I am not out where you are, but wanted to drop a line. Sometimes, it is easier to start new with someone different then someone similar then the love of your life. You have felt some deep losses and it is always hard to move on. Just take it one day at a time, grieve your losses, love the gift she gave you (your child) and understand it is ok to feel like why..... One day you will be ready. In the meantime, give yourself some time to heal and grow. It does not always make sense, but eventually you will meet someone you can share a new intimacy. Love and blessings. Meaghan xoxo

Some may think my statement harsh but if you know you are dealing with a 16 yr old you deserve prosecution, thats a child. In my opinion 18 is to young, but thats just me. I know in Canada you are considered an adult at 18 but that is still a teenager, so is 19 . It is alot to expect teens to deal with adults in their 30's,40's, 50's and beyond. Although I realize everyone matures differently I can only think back when I was a teen and I know I wasn't an exception to how immature and unprepared they can be.

Just a reminder to all us men who pay women for sexual services that once in a while the po-po WILL pose as a prostitute trolling on BP or CL or even CERB or any other advertising forum as under 18. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/02/26/ns-ice-child-luring-arrest.html If you're paying for sex, make sure she's 18 and over! You'll wreck your life like these 5 men who have their names forever plastered on the internet and in our communities.

Since the 'Thanks' button was implemented on Cerb, is it just me or are you more aware of giving thanks to other members now as opposed to just receiving them? While I'm glad there is now a button for us to show our thanks to others here for their contributions, have you ever felt aware of thanking those much more now? And do you also feel like you should be giving thanks as much as you are receiving? Not just in your thoughts but by looking at the number on your profile? And have you ever felt inclined to up your thank-you points to others since people thank -you for your posts and perhaps haven't been aware that your 'Thanks' count is lower than your 'Thanked Points? I know they are just numbers but to me they are significant and I have found that it has made me more aware of thanking others and is much more meaningful than just getting a rep point. I admit sometimes throughout my daily life I have read posts and not thanked them and then became more aware of it. First it was a mix of finding something meaningful from a member posting and then a bit of guilt because I got more thanked posts when I was thanking. lol. Maybe it is because I am considerate of others but sometimes life got in the way. I am grateful that people appreciate my posts and now I make it a point to thank them for the signifigance of their posts and their contribution and not just because I felt obligated. So thank-you! Can anyone else relate?

I think I've been using the "Thanks" button in the same way I would use the "Like" button on Facebook, and I really appreciate it for that purpose! Sometimes I don't feel strongly enough about something to nominate it, and I don't have a particular comment, but I do want to show some appreciation. I definitely like the new feature, and use it pretty often.

I'm wondering why the police don't lay charges....forget suing, it's too long and drawn out an affair. But isn't extortion illegal? As for living with mommy maybe he has lots of money, could be living off her dime...and saving his money. As for posting the lady's rates/expenses well rates are public but only she would know her expenses so my guess she provided them to the Sun. BTW her rates don't seem unreasonable or over inflated and I hope she makes good on her dream of being a doctor RG

I recently was given the pink shirt as a gift- its just a cotton big tee but its super sexy for what it stands for..... and men wearing it.....well you know the saying 'real men wear pink' I have to admit.... I sorta lived in mine for a week. AND NOT ONE person made fun of me for it....so....I say its working. lol. ;)

I don't think one could ever stop bullying, it just one of those things that's been around forever and will always be around. I think it's up to the parents to teach their kids how to avoid it and how not to be one. But really not always the parent's fault and up to the kid or adult to be aware of it or others around to confront the person. Bullying can take many forms and not always on the playground. Someone will always want to get the best of someone else for whatever reasons.

This may be of interest. It is a recommendation by a disabled cerb member. It demonstrates the compassion that some of the ladies on this site are capable of. Be prepared to be emotionaly moved, as I certainly was. Here's the link: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15487&page=3 scroll down to entry #26, written by big AL

My deepest sympathies going out to. I cannot give you much advice about what you should do, but I can tell you this. Your situation you describe sound very familiar and the pain you go through I know it all to well. Although our situations may not be exactly the same I too understand your desire and need to be touched by the one you love and miss so much. This is something I feel too, but I've seen sp even ma, they give me back a little bit of light each time but it cannot replace them nor does it feel the same. Although for me it is enough to get through this hard times. I know everyone copes differently, I myself used to think the only way out was suicide. I do not know if this is something you deal with but I would like you to remember something you have a part of your wife left behind in your son, who needs a father. Give your son as much love as you can, he needs you! Growing up without a mother can be difficult, but to grow up without both parents would be far worse. Remember if you ever feel suicidal it is ok you're not alone in the world and I know how hard it can be to talk or tell someone about it but please trust me you will feel better. I myself still cannot talk openly to people I know and find it much easier to talk to strangers. I would be more than happy to talk if you ever need too. I may not be a therapist and give you much advice but I can listen and assure you no matter how hopeless and alone you may feel there is lots like us out there that feel the same. We just have to sake the chance and speak out, trust me its changed me a lot. I would also seek therapy they help a lot and they can guide you better and help you understand your feeling and emotion and eventually you will Learn how to cope easier. There is no shame in how you are feeling and what you think might help you. It my or may not feel the same only you can tell but remember she cannot replace your wife and I recommend only seeing her if you thing you can accept that. Just be prepared for either outcome it may feel the same it may not. My heart goes out to you what bit I have left.

NO escort is going to be able to provide HER touch. You are still grieving and need counselling to accept the loss of your wife. You need to move on, for your child's sake as well as your own. Forget it. Forget her. Deal with your issues first. The fact that you sought out an SP who had an "uncanny" resemblance to your wife is remarkable. I'm very uncomfortable with this and am concerned more for the safety of the SP than anything else.

Heard this on CBC's The Current yesterday. Found it to be very interesting. I know a couple of people who are in this group facing these problems. In search of equal opportunities in sexual expression: Sex & Disability Note: Link is to a copy of the broadcast so there is sound. If sound is an issue, wait to click this until it isn't. :)

:biggrin:Thank you Notchy-it doesn't get better than that. We need to see those types of messages more often to be reminded that society will thrive when people respond to one another that way.

I found this video on You Tube and was touched by it hope you enjoy it too. http://youtu.be/ID0kgP9IVhs One good deed brings another.

If you're not trolling for underage or trafficked girls, in my opinion you have nothing to fear from the Police/RCMP.

I learned that Gustave Eiffel (designer of the Eiffel Tower and the framework for the Statue of Liberty) had a paralysing fear of heights. I guess I also learned that we should learn to work with our fears and that the results can be pretty remarkable. I also learned that I just like to say Gustave. Gustave! Gustave!

I understand that you're feeling impatient and want answers to your questions, as well as some tips and strategies about how to do things. Every question you've asked about the law is answered, several times, in the Legal discussion and most are referred to extensively in other areas, as well. For the most part, the best information comes from established, long-time members of the board so pay particular attention to their posts. When it comes to things like strategies for working outcalls, transportation, etc., those are important considerations and most are also discussed on the boards, here. Frankly, the best way for you to learn how to deal with these things would be to start with a good agency. Since you've not said where you are, it will be difficult for anyone here to make a recommendation in your area. Please don't take offense at what I'm going to say, but this part of your post is likely to be considered deeply insulting, not only to many of the ladies here, but also to many of the gentlemen as well. One critical thing that you need to understand is that the best so-called "high end" paid companions defend and are protective of women who work outdoors and those who have health problems and addictions. You won't find much tolerance on this board for denigrating any SP, anywhere, because of her looks or personal habits. We do discuss safer sex all the time and while we generally advise prospective clients to seek companionship from a reputable independent or a good agency, we don't put down women who, for many serious and difficult reasons, face so many challenges that they must work in compromising conditions. Your assumption that many companions offer poor quality and/or unsafe encounters is troubling. I don't know which sex workers' blogs you have been reading, or where you get your information, but as someone who has worked as an independent for many years, both in Toronto and in Vancouver, what you describe is not my experience, anywhere. No one should have to engage in activities she deems to be unsafe. Ever. I have to say, though, that I think your problems will have to do with not knowing how to screen potential clients and not knowing how to manage the volume of requests you would receive as a "new girl." These are also reasons to begin to work with a good agency. Starting out as an independent is tempting, but it's frequently a very bad idea. Yes, you'll make less per call with an agency. But you'll also have lower expenses and you'll be working with people who do know what they're doing and how the industry works. You need that knowledge and expertise behind you and, frankly, you don't have it yet. Without it, you will inevitably get into trouble. Are you aware that this statement verges on hostility? If you truly believe these things, I have to say that you don't really understand what the misconceptions and myths about the sex trade are. Speaking for myself, I have been a paid companion for over a decade. I have never engaged in any activity that I felt was unsafe--assuming, that is, that you're referring to things that increase one's potential for exposure to STIs. I'm also old enough to be your mother. I have never considered myself to be in competition with anyone. I work hard and I make a good living. I attribute my success to accepting the realities of this profession, to identifying my particular market niche and serving it very well, and to gaining the respect of my colleagues. That last thing--the respect of colleagues--is essential. If you do decide to work as a paid companion, no one, no matter how well-meaning or close to you, will understand what your life is really like. You will need the support and care of other companions so that you can stay safe, make good decisions and get support when things go wrong. No one ever avoids having things go wrong, regardless of what they may say. But there are ways to avoid some problems that you may not even imagine exist and there are ways to manage the things that you can't avoid. In general, we don't discuss these things in public forums. You will need to gain others' support in order to have access to this information. If you're just investigating this as an option, I would recommend that you find something else or some other way to take care of your problems. The sex trade is not the right thing for most women. If you're seriously considering becoming a paid companion, my advice is to step back, take some calming breaths and clear your mind. Only a minute percentage of women enter the sex trade because it's their ideal, intended career path. Nearly everyone has had some significant problem in her life and suddenly needs to earn a lot of money fairly quickly. In other words, most don't start out in the best frame of heart and mind. You can still do it, but you need to be careful, you need to be thoughtful and you need to learn to listen. An arrogant attitude will be a liability. Over-confidence is a mask for fear that prevents addressing the things that cause fear to begin with.

I can only say I'm sorry for your frustration. Irresponsibilty from an sp or a client is never acceptable. To ignore an appointment without a proper cancellation or a reasonable explanation is very unprofessional . Just keep trying we are not all like that. Most sp's value dearly their clients or soon to be clients, without them where would we be.

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When it comes to disabilities, you have to understand what type of disabilities they are dealing with. I met a client once who was almost totally disabled (wheelchair bound, but able to move once in a prone position, no acrobatics). He actually felt the medical should provide him a service, like how he has a homeworker come into take care of him. It is totally different dealing with someone who cannot move around, but still wants to experience a sexual experience with someone who is skilled in this. You have to understand what and how they want to experience this. Take your time, book a longer time because everything that we normally take for granted takes longer. Understand that they still have sexual needs and are generally frustrated in people who will brush them off. Just because they have mobility issues, does not mean they dont have needs. However, if they have cognitive or other types of needs, you have to understand how their disability needs to be understood. If they are blind, deaf, mentally challenged, or cognitive disabled, you have to take this into consideration. Just keep in mind to ensure you book a longer call for them. Take your time, fine tune their needs and all is well. Good luck!

Everyone here knows the age of consent is 16 and someone, say 50, fucking a 16 year old isn't illegal, right? However, even though prostitution is legal, the government has put 18 as the age of consent to be an escort. These men probably did not know they were even doing anything illegal outside of obtaining an escort as people are aware the age of consent is 16, but not aware 18 is the age of consent for escorts. While it may be creepy for grown ass men to be propositioning 16 year old girls, it isn't pedophilia. A pedophile by definition is someone who is attracted to pre-pubescent children, at 16 they do not fit that criteria as they have reached sexual maturity. Labeling these guys as pedophiles is not only not fair to them but cheapens the word, real pedophiles ruin children's lives and should have it tattooed across their forehead.

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I think it's a great new feature. I pop on and offline often throughout the day, and while I do spend a fair amount of time reading threads, I may have to go back so many times to finish it, and often don't have as much time to post responses, so I like to thank posts that have been helpful, informative, or interesting to me . Especially Since I don't post as often, I do appreciate those who have taken the time and effort to give their views, and so I find the pink button to be helpful. It's just a good little way to say thanks lol

SO they knew she was 16 ( although it was a sting) . I am glad they were caught, and I am also glad their names are published in the paper for all to see...Pedophiles should be outed. Period.

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Hang on a minute though. In the era of Fox News, we can't dismiss the fact that corporate media can absolutely seize upon an audience's worst instincts and fan that flame into a bonfire if it will turn a profit. I agree that men and women have been checking each other out and assigning themselves a rung on the ladder since the start of the species. It's not the media's fault that we're like that. But... it deserves some blame for reinforcing that message almost every minute of every day. Private media exists to make money, and it's hugely profitable to exploit people's insecurities about self-image and whether they actually deserve to be loved at all. It starts with just showing us what we already want to see -- check out the conspicuous youth and beauty of everyone on American television. People will tune in more if every cop and scientist is hot. But there's also advertising that earnestly tells everyone in the audience that YOU have a beauty problem getting in the way of true happiness, and it has just the solution to sell you. What's that Don Draper says? "Love was created by guys like me to sell nylons". I wish it was just the simpleminded who made easy prey, but even smart people can trip over their innate insecurities. And slickly produced media -- television, magazines, the ads on billboards and in bus shelters, everywhere you look -- spend a lot of money to exploit those insecurities and turn them into money. They've had a long time to get very, very good at it. There's a science. We kind of take it for granted that the media works this way, but it doesn't have to. We can stop it. After all, you don't see cigarette ads any more; the ads themselves were bad for everyone. They made promises they could never keep ("You'll be as handsome and rugged as a cowboy!") and took your money and your health in the process. Maybe we shouldn't stop with cigarettes. Is our mental health less worth protecting? But there's a fight to be waged against a deeply entrenched habit of thought. Check out the sometimes ugly backlash against Girls, an intriguing show that defies conventions of beauty and the male's expectations of women's behaviour. One of its main artistic pillars: "fuck the male gaze". In the same way, the campaign that's the focus of this thread is still the exception in today's world of messaging... and that's pretty sad. (Sorry, that went on longer than I planned. Constructed culture is a big subject for me.)

Congrats you 3!

To three fabulous board members congratulations to you 3! Your input to the board is greatly appreciated!

Congratulactions to Gabriella, Phaedrus and NJ 3 valued members and contributors to this community RG

Congratulations to three wonderful contributors to this board.

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Congratuations to you too Notch! Oh, and of course Phaedrus and Gabriella. Mmmm MMF party?

Actually that's not quite true, Sasha previously known as Kim was a regular fixture in the Diary for years, for using misleading and fake photos of women 20 years younger than herself. Those archive postings have since been lost when I moved the diary to a new host. She was posted so frequently she had a nick name on the diary known as the "Cougar in the Tree" due to a poorly taken and posed photo of her stuck in a tree lol. The photos she uses now are of her but are very dated.

I too am a pro condom user sp. I suggest to some of my clients that insist they can't enjoy sex with a condom to practice masturbating with them on. I think this would help, perhaps I'm wrong but it seems like a good idea to me. We all have to get used to new things sometimes.