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joe64 contacted me yesterday with a text that read.... '3pm incall?' I was at the Dentist's and responded to him as soon as I had turned my cell back on. I explained myself and apologized for missing his text. But I also went on to tell him he would have to include more than what he did in his next text for an appointment. I sent him an example of an appropriate text here on cerb, and he responds by complaining that I didn't text him back right away and wasn't available when he wanted me. My next move is to ask him for a reference. He says he already sent me one. He didn't. Finally today he tells me 3 ladies he has seen but then berates me for not valuing him as a client and that I'm putting him through too much hassle. Ending his PM that he would be looking on BP for someone serious. I'll tell you right now joe64, it has less to do with your race, and a lot more to do with your approach. You want me to give my body to you and you think ' 3pm incall?' is sufficient as an introductory first text and that my asking for a reference is a hassle? I think you may have a couple of things to learn before you start worrying about your race. I know for myself, if you properly introduce yourself and conduct yourself respectfully towards me, race is not an issue. I believe that gentlemen come in all shapes, sizes and colours.

My Dad and I are very very close. Always have been. 3 days ago my dad was told he has a brain tumor. He and I discussed at great length yesterday....cancelled a little go for a drive getaway the two of us....for now....he is at peace about it, moving forward and will do what needs to be done. Soooo reason for my post. A very good friend of mine hadn't talked to his Dad for several years. Silly the reason why...IMO.....I called up my friend last night and told him about my Dad. I asked him...."So Mark. Do you want to get this news about your Dad someday, realizing he only may have a short time to live, knowing that you two aren't at peace? Forgiveness buddy forgiveness " He hung up on me. Mark's mother phoned me not long ago today crying and said "Thankyou....I don't know what you said to Mark but he is here and they are hugging...Thankyou Thankyou" Made my day :)

Very well said Soleil. Although I 99% of the time ignore texts, & the reason for it is because of their approach. U available, or where you located. Not a single hello or an introduction. Eventually what I see having happened here was him getting a lot of pm's wondering who this apparent racist SP is. You asking him to tell him a bit more about himself is far from being racist. He seems to be quite hung up on his race & unfortunately he thinks that the ladies will decline him an appointment due to it. That won't be the reason to decline the appointment, his attitude & how he treated you when you'd like to know a bit more about someone that you are providing your body & time to. Wow Joe is all I can say. The majority of the ladies I know would have ignored your text altogether, zero response. Soleil was nice & patient enough to respond then you play a blame game with her. She is a very sweet & kind hearted woman, who probably doesn't have a single racist bone in her body.

I think, in this case, only 2 opinions matter: Yours and the guy you are trying to be with. Sure, it would be nice to hear other people's views, but keep in mind their opinions ultimately mean nothing.

Both inner and outer quite large...camel toe ville no matter what I wear :)

ME!:D Long labia, a teeny pearl like clit!

Half hour ride on my motorcycle on the backroads east of Ottawa.

Since many of us deal with criticism on a daily basis, I found this authors idea for a disapproval matrix quite interesting.

As in everything, there are those people who mind and those who don't, those who give in relationships and those who are parasites. I think the big questions here are the ones you need to ask yourself. Do you want to continue as an SP in a relationship or not? What are you looking for in a partner and a relationship? Once you know the answer to these questions to make yourself happy, you simply look for partners who will blend with you into what you're looking for. If you want to be an SP yet you have someone completely monogamous or jealous, it will never work, don't delude yourself thinking it will. If you want a strong man who does not sponge off you, then don't allow him to and if you see the behavior send him packing. Life is all about choices and making life into what we want it to be. You either chose things that will do this or you don't, either way, you have a choice. Good luck!

This video is re-calibrating my own mental gyroscope. The Hubble Space Telescope points at an apparently empty area of space and discovers 10 billion galaxies. "Awesome" is over-used, but this time, it's accurate.

2 Great on the room Lee, I will take it, will send funds via email transfer. Now I was hoping to have the duo with you and OD, perhaps the other fellows can video for promo stuff. But here is the thing sweetie, you need to understand what interactive is. I want to see you and OD make out and stuff , 2 guys kissing is a super turn on for me, I'd like to see some oral as well, but hey I understand the gents get to make their rules. You know what makes you comfortable is what I want. Please though a little kissing, I am sure we can work it all out and of course when I recco you it will be a ladies recco, what goes on behind closed doors is private. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Anyhow the money is sent and I sure hope that Andy fellow makes it, he has a bit of a treck!! Love to all you boys!

Pretty much every day, I'll receive a few texts from numbers I've never seen before, just saying 'hi' or, 'hey'. I will never understand why these texts are sent. Most girls ignore them, to be honest. I occasionally will respond, saying 'Hello! If you'd like to see me, please introduce yourself and let me know what you're looking for, thanks!' other times I've said 'Hello! Who is this?', to get a response back with just a name. Like, Frank. Just Frank, nothing else. Not, Hello, this is Frank, wondering if you're available today?' I know sometimes a new client can be nervous with the first communciation. But please keep in mind, we are very happy to answer your questions, and if we accept texts (some girls state in their ads that they do not), then you are welcome to text us! But please, ask a question! Tell me what you're texting for. Because to just say 'Hi, then 'Frank', it's like pulling teeth. I'm not here to draw what you want out of you. You need to ask me, and then we can make an arrangement. I will admit, I sometimes can be a bit snarky in my responses to these texts. And i'm not a snarky person. But after the tenth 'Hey' or worse, 'hey babe', text I've received in a day, my patience may have hit it's limit. And I would hate for us not to get a chance to meet only because our texting didn't work out. Communication is key to a good encounter. Tell me who you are, and what it is you're looking for by contacting me. If you can't say more than a hello in a text, now how will we be able to talk in purrson silly!

Im wondering if Vanessa is indicating she has what we are looking for

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I think that the common thought and thread here is that whenever possible pleasure for "both" parties is paramount. So if as an SP or client, you feel it, enjoy it and show it. However, in reality there will be days where either party will not be at their best and that's ok. I'll be very blunt, if I'm involved with an SP and I sense that dispite my best efforts she's just not getting there on that day, at that time for whatever reason I'd just rather roll over, lay back, trace my fingers over her skin and chat. Trying to just carry on and power through for the sake of "finishing" is just embarrassing. Because I derive so much of my pleasure from the ladies pleasure I've learned that for me longer dates are my preference. That way I can have a sufficient amount of time to connect with the lady and allow the pleasure to build for both parties.

Way back in the day, I learned to hack DTV. Of course, I damned near got hooked on Jerry Springer. There was nothing like him on Canadian tv at the time. One commercial that came on every day at lunchtime was the Smart Beep commercial. Farkin' hilarious.

It's not that it's an unfair question, but that it's a very awkward one, Bushwacka. No one responsible is going to make generalizations about a particular group of companions. Those who might are likely to be biased and their opinions may have little factual basis. It's perfectly fine that you like Asian ladies. And it's also perfectly okay that you like anal sex. You'll need to contact Asian companions and ask them if this is something they do. There's really no other reliable way around it. Even when agencies claim that someone does or doesn't do something, they're not always correct. And I'm sure you don't want to expect something from someone only to find that she's feeling pressured into doing it when she may not want to! For something like this, which is a special activity that not everyone does or is comfortable promising, your best option is to ask the ladies you're interested in, yourself.

Well, as for why he did it, in his brother's words: Same as everybody else. And here's the case for him (probably) being back next season. Now, onwards to the glorious future when this sort of thing isn't remotely newsworthy!

Try the male masturbator head for the Hitachi Magic Wand, play with it alone or better yet slip in side it and then have your partner sit atop you cow girl style. It's made of win.

Not sure what other SPs reasons might be? There is however no shortage of men who treat women badly regardless of ethnicity. Cheers,

Can't say there's been any male-directed toys I've enjoyed. Well, unless you count a piece of fabric that was used to bind my hands to the bed-frame once. For a simple "toy" I've very fond memories of that one! But as nothing turns me on more than a turned-on woman, I'm most likely to get a thrill from a toy when it's one the lady has brought out to use on herself while we play. I knew one lady who had a collection of variously-sized buttplugs that she loved having used on her during intercourse. The fact that they were quite obviously her favourite toy by default made them mine.

My personal favorite is a little viberator bullet that can attach to a finger. Worn on the front of the finger the bullet is applied direct against the pussy/clit/anus but I always perfer to wear it on the back of the finger turning the finger into the viberator then the finger itself gets applied against the pussy/clit/anus. Vibes are great but nothing beats the sensation of skin on skin. Keeping it in batteries is a bitch though. The other is a viberating cock ring with a bullet on both the top and bottom side so she gets stimulation on both the clit and anus during intercourse.

The best way to heal tendonitis is to take time off. Because if you don't it will become chronic. I know a lot of people do not want to take drugs and pain killers but an anti inflammatory with some time off is a good idea. If you continue to use the tendon while it is inflamed it will continue to rub against the bone and cartilage and cause more damage. An anti inflammatory will reduce the swelling preventing the tendon from rubbing and causing more damage. Heat will make it feel better right after but ice is actually better for it. It will feel stiff and even worse right after you ice but you will feel better the next day than you would if you applied heat. You do not want to ice the area for more than 20 minutes at a time without taking at least an hour in between. I would also suggest taking a supplement called Glucosamine Chondroitin. It is a supplement that actually helps overall tendon health. You have to take the supplement for a while before you see any results but it is more of a long term solution. Lastly going to a physiotherapist and getting ultrasound and electric stimulation will also speed up the healing process

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In that case I'd recommend Soleil.

No MP in Ottawa will give out any prices, other than the basic room fee, over the phone. The standard answer is "tips are accepted which you can discuss with your attendent in the session". Expected tips also can vary considerably from place to place, from reasonable (Michelle's) to unbelievably outrageous (Triple A). Most places in Toronto are quite open about their services and fees (tips) so much so that they post them on their web sites, everything from basic (HJ) to VIP (FS). I prefer not paying anything at the door, not ruining the mood by discussing things in the session and then just paying for everything at the end. This can be problematical for the MA but if she knows you and/or trusts you not to rip her off, I think works best. I've had many wonderful sessions and when I asked "What do I owe you?" been surprised by how low the fees were and ended up tipping even more than she asked for because service was so great. Every place is different.

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This also baffles me. So far, I've never booked via text and always do so via introductory email and it's worked out very well for me. I suppose it could be nerves, feeling intimidated, or just the incapacity to deal with five words or more at once. ;) ["Monkey brain"] Or it is a desire to make a connection over a period of many hours (even days!) with your intended 'target' via a ping-pong game of short text 'blurts' fired back and forth. Just a hare-brained thought. Or is it monkey brain? But consider this: The lady in question may just get a little frustrated with aimless texting, and most likely would rather be meeting with you (or another booking client) than waste time trying to figure out what it is that you are after. Guys/Gents: If you'll permit a little piece of advice, when you do text that lovely lady, make it just long enough beyond the 'Hi!' to let her know what you want! You may not be quite ready to book and have a question. It doesn't hurt to give her a compliment by saying why you chose to contact specifically her and not someone else. This is likely to flatter her and lead to more interest on her part to continue the conversation. Ask any question you might have, but have some respect. Questions like "Can I just pound you for the full hour?" are likely going to put her off you altogether. For a large part of this audience I am preaching to the choir, but just doing my community duty to advise those new to this board or who might be unsure about booking their first encounter. There are many threads here that cover topics just like this one. It is a gold mine if you just look. Now go forth, educate, book and conjugate! :) [tbc]

Thanks everyone! Appreciate all the advice :) I did go and see Alexxandria - fantastic massage. Gorgeous woman! Ms Cannon I see is very well respected - going to try and see her this week as well.

I always loved this one.

I am going to say something that probably doesn't get said much but must be taken into consideration as part of the equation. Pleasure is wonderful and best shared however much of what I've been reading is that there is this focus on a woman cumming. Yes, it's fantastic when it happens and it's enjoyed all around however there are some women who get just as much, if not more without an orgasm. Amazing right? Sometimes it's the journey, the giving, the tease and the build that is wanted and enjoyed and an orgasm is not needed. This is probably a small percentage of the population but I had to put it out there because sometimes that IS the person you're dealing with. Wonderful for you to want to get your partner there but if it doesn't happen, it does not impact the overall wonderful and amazing nature of the encounter. Just to clarify, there is nothing "wrong" with them, they just view and experience pleasure on a larger scale. I suppose it comes from knowing (or getting to know) your partner and what really gets you going.

I just figured Hornee was gonna scoop 9 from the party and go on his merry way!

Yes you are right some guys don't deserve to have a birthday. The lovely ladies mentioned in this post as well as all the others are way to good for for a certain birthday boy. I would love to see any of the ladies mentioned for my birthday maybe Holly and Emily duo is in order:-)

Non-sexual - it's ripple chips and onion dip.

Emily you sure do have large labia lips and your clit does come out they are both so very sweet and yummy

I am VERY interested in seeing that my date gets turned on and orgasms. If I'm not doing it myself -then I hope I can help her masturbate. My only limitation lately is DATY. I enjoy doing it, but I'm feeling like it is a bit too intimate (because of my SO,) and I have the nagging concern of STIs, so that tool isn't on my tool belt that often. Frankly I have been suspicious that some if not most of my SPs have been faking it, but maybe just maybe they do get off on what they do, especially with a decent guy who treats her well and wants to get consensually kinky.

I've had a few trampling clients over the years and have never used a board in between myself and the client. I think it would interesting to try but since I've only done this as requested by the client obviously they've never brought it up. I think the ones I've seen anyway.. prefer to feel the heel of the shoe or my foot if they prefer a nude foot on their body.. ie it's not only the weight that's the desire to feel. I even had a trampling duo with Soleil when I was in Winnipeg a couple years back. That was a lot of fun. I find it extremely important to have something to grab onto for support. I used to have a giant tv that I could lean on.. but if you have a heavy chair close by you can reach out to that if you need it. Stepping on and off the client sort of like when you do the stair stepper at a gym works well too.

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There should be an Ottawa section on boobies. Yes, that would make everyone happy :boobeyes:

Someone I know, not very well, true...past away earlier today. She was only 29 years old :( It's not fair! :(

I think what I find is that people take a lot for granted or have been spoiled by a site like cerb that has forums, feedback and admin moderation to control the advertisers, so to speak. Most advertising only sites don't have recos, reviews, discussion, or networking, and what happens it seems to me is that someone who relies on a 3rd party, in a way, to vet the posters has a certain amount of confidence that the poster is legit. But they shouldn't because really it comes down to more than just an ad posted and a phone number for most here to make a selection, so it should apply as well when you use any other site. I think what I find is that people tend to spend even less time with their selection process on the other ad sites than they would on this site, and that makes me wonder what the heck are they thinking? lol If you use this site, you are going to do a variety of things: check other ads, the profile, the discussion posts, possibly contact by pm or the sp's preferred method, check their website if they have one. Maybe even do a google search to see what the sp has on other sites. But on other ad only sites, the typical method is see ad, call sp, make appt, show up. What you could and should be doing is: see ad, contact sp and ask if they have a website to view, search the phone number on the site to view other ads, and google the phone number/sp name to see what comes up. Phone or email to get a feel for the sp herself, since there are no posts for you to view, and then and only then, make an actual appointment. Advertising sites are not created good and evil, and therefore dismissable simply because a few bad apples use them. and not every reputable site is able to filter out the bad apples or fake pic users or ad content stealers, or name stealers or any number of things. There are just as many pitfalls on this site that might come up as there are on CL, bp, or anywhere else. I do get tired of being labeled as disreputable simply due to the location of my ads, and I am sure many others are as well? I am also not that fond of having my clients from those sites being labeled as undesireable.

Men are the only ones who are concerned with the specifications of cum shots. The quantity, the distance, the velocity, the viscosity. Women don't care about these things. And this is coming from a cock loving, self proclaimed blow job and cum expert who offers and loves COF/COB/CIM. While there may we some of us who really enjoy cum shots, we don't generally care about the specifics about them. That is a guy thing. I wrote about a blog post about cum last month. You might be interested in it. :)

I scour antique markets for stuff that not only matches my decor, but also matches my interest in cool old stuff.... I love to cook meals that I won't eat until much later - it's fantastic going to the freezer and rediscovering what you made two months before.

While I agree 100% with what has been written here so far, it makes me think back to my beginning days of advertising. I have come long way from the first ad I wrote, to the style I have developed now. It was a learning experience that is for sure! When I see an ad that has the little "i" and words like...call me anytime...with no personality being offered to the reader, then right away I know this is an unexperienced SP who has not yet developed her on line personality. Some of us catch on to that, other's do not. The ones who do not, tend not to do well as most hobbyist are seeking an experienced provider. And it does show a level of self respect to have ads and pics that are not appearing to advertising a piece of meet from a grocery store, lol... I think back, and I remember my some of my first ads, they were boring, spelling mistakes galore, but always were written with a bit of flair. My pics had come along way too, but I am artistically inclined so I did not struggle so much with that aspect of it. I think my first ad here was something like " hello gentlemen, i am in fredericton avail for romantic encounters, call me or email me" hahahhahahaha, I laugh thinking of it! I just did not understand at that time that how I write and present myself is key to getting the fellas interested enough to make the first contact with me. It was just this last year I figured out to add color, format and fonts to my ads, lol...like this:) hahaha so I guess my point is, that we can create, develop and evolve into our on line personality, and for some it takes time to learn. I mean, there are those who will not change or be inspired to create a lasting impression, and those ladies tend not to do well...but with some inspiration and encouragement some will catch on and really develop into a great on line persona:) Nothing comes easy, you need to put effort into it! If you are willing to that then you probably will do great:) If not, then sadly you will be overlooked and left behind;( Everyone has a starting point!

Most of the ladies do not have MBA's so expecting them to do what mainstream business's do (In the way they operate the business) is not realistic (Wrong expectations!) Mainstream business men and women with either a business education or years of being in a professional business environment learn certain "rules" for successfully marketing a and operating a company. These are things you LEARN over time but can benefit greatly upfront if you learn them early. For Instance... Such things as.. downturns (How to anticipate and how to ensure security) never admitting your slow (sales are down) most business professionals know NEVER to do this (Always say your doing great) ROI (Return on investment - how to make 10.00 into 100.00) landing a deal (Market, Sales Pitch and HOW TO seal the deal!) Addressing your customers needs (It's not always about the sex or the looks - the personality is very important and the way you make your customer feel is very important) phone sales (Mannerisms... not to answer the cell phone while driving or with screaming kids or yelling friends... or loud music playing) Time Management scheduling Follow Ups Repeat sales (Return clients) etc... A lot of the ladies learn this over time and trial and error... (and that can hurt a ladies reputation before she even gets started full swing). Things many people who work in mainstream business assume are common knowledge or obvious choices allude many people who have no formal business experience - and it's easy to forget that at times. This business has no prerequisites, you do not need any business skills to make money as a provider but if you had those skills you could make a LOT MORE money. A few of the ladies over the years have had MBA's and they usually excel rapidly and really do well in the business... and really you do not need a MBA to learn these things. Most are common sense but often overlooked or viewed as not as important. The most successful ladies are the ones who have the ENTIRE PACKAGE (Sell the fantasy, polite on the phone, never miss appointments, treat the guy like he is a god, have lots of fun and enjoy people).... It may just be a big act or illusion ... or it may be the lady really likes her job (Either way the customer should NEVER be able to tell the difference). If you do this you will rarely have slow times as your "Regulars" will keep you busy during these off season times.