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First, I will say don't be discouraged by these bargin hunters. Rates are a personal thing and if someone calls you and scoffs at them, it's not your problem. The service we provide as SPs is NOT a basic necessity but for some, they think it is and think they are entitled to getting a BJ for $50. Self entitlement for some plays a key role in our frustration as SPs as many of us think of it as a business while taking pride in it and not just slapping up an ad and expect to make a few bucks or whatever we can get. Once in a blue moon, I get asked "What can I get for $60?" To be honest, my smart ass bitchy inner voice would like to say " How about a kick in the pants!" However, I'm a professional so I grit my teeth and would like to rip my hair out when asked that question. Instead, I don't even reply. They are not my target market. Secondly, it's all where you advertise. If you are going on those so called classified sites where you pay X amount only to NOT find your ad there because their customer service department is crap, only letting you post a certain amount of info and they let competition flag your ad. What kind of business is that? I admit to using these types of in the past and have gotten some great customers but for every 10 callers, I found only one good customer who becomes a regular. Putting up with one liner questions such as "Rates?" "BBBJ?".. Again, this tells me they are out for the sexual act and not the experience. Since not advertising there for a long time, I have found better customers and already have a long list of established regulars and found that I don't need to use that site as much as I used to. At the same time, I am a seasoned SP and can weed through these guys like a lawnmower just based on the vibe I get from them, how they speak to me and the questions they ask. So once in a while I will put an ad there but often times have to put myself in a certain place to deal with those callers and not get frustrated. I was recently helping out a newer SP and I could see how agitated she was getting with being put on the spot and not being able to deal with the types of questions asked. I decided to answer for her so she could listen to how I spoke with them and it resulted in being a double edged sword with someone then asking about me and that I had the sexiest voice. Okay, that didn't work out too well. Third, are you just offering sexual acts or the whole experience? This will completely define your target market. Invest in your business and while you have to spend money to make money, it is well worth the investment. Advertising here is a great start and move onto a website along with banners. You will find that there will be less and less headaches of having to put up with these bargin hunters who don't give a hoot who is servicing them and completely limit their selection of woman based on price. The potential customer who is looking for the "experience" will take time to do his research and will have read and understand the information you have put out there in whatever type of advertising avenue you have chosen. In their eyes, they are hoping the experience you offer will be well worth it and if you are an SP who is good at what she does, you won't have a problem with this. In some ways, I can understand where these bargin hunters want the best SP for less in basic terms of receiving a service on a level comparable to other products or service industries but what they don't take into consideration is once again this service is a luxury and also we are not car tires or snow blower machines. They do not need a BJ as opposed to when they need to buy a loaf of bread to put on the table. SPs are not commodities although some men like to treat us this way. This has been the turning point in this business and it hasn't been for the best. They want everything for $60 but then feel cheated because they didn't get this or that, the girl was a clock watcher and kicked them out once finished to completion or the person's place was a dive. What do they expect for that kind of money? You get what you pay for in these scenarios. Don't let this get you down though. There are plenty of men who do appreciate us and understand where we are coming from in a business sense. There are a lot of behind the scenes work we do as SPs to complete the perfect ambience when a client visits us. This includes, cleaning, vacuuming, laundry, time travelling to various incall locations as in my case, making ourselves looks good. This is all part of the job and there is no way in hell, I'm going to do all that for a $60 BJ just because someone has money to burn in their pocket. The time invested has to be equivalent to the outcome and that is the rate we charge. Stick to your guns about what YOU feel your time is worth and put it out into the universe. Ask, believe and receive is my philosophy in this business.

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Business is booming for the sex trade in Newfoundland and Labrador, as workers in the industry move from walking the streets to posting online. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/05/06/nl-sex-trade-boom-investigation-507.html

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I suspect that those asking are the trolls and bottom-feeders who are looking for new girls who they can pressure into offering lower rates or services that they wouldn't otherwise. I'm going to guess that established providers don't see quite as much low-balling as 'inexperienced' girls who are just starting out in the industry. So yes, it probably works sometimes or they wouldn't do it. It does, however, answer the question of whether or not you should bother communicating with these cretins. Ignore them and they'll move on.

I understand the aggravation... but for a first timer, even that "hi" is a big step. This is not an apology for the guys that have been on the boards for quite some time or for someone that has had more than one experience. This is for that first timer. "Hi" is hell. "Hi" is scary. "Hi" means that he has stepped out of his comfort level, regardless of what it is, and decided to delve into a world that is completely foreign to him. We all know the media portrayals; rarely are they positive. But the guy that says just "hi" is going against everything he has been shown and everything that society has told him, and is entering a great big world unknown to him. He may have been debating that "hi" text for weeks. He probably wrote and erased that "hi" a dozen times on his phone and when he finally was satisfied with that message, debated again just pressing the "send" button. "Hi" means that he has decided on extra marital adventure for the first time. "Hi" means that he is lonely and doesn't have the social skills for intimate relationships in the real world. "Hi" means that he and his SO have broken up and is reaching for something to ease the pain for just a short amount of time. "Hi" means so many things, and it could be that you, the recipient are the one he has chosen out of a hundred other possibilities to help him. He doesn't know the next step. He's never done this before. He is scared. Believe me, he is petrified. You are beautiful and sexy and are offering him things that he hasn't had in a long time, if ever. He may stop at just "hi." That may have been the limit of his fortitude. He may just say to himself, "I can't do this." So when you get upset at "hi," please understand that at one time he may have been ALL of us, everyone who gets into the hobby for one of the multitude of reasons that we do the things we do. I apologize if I have offended, all I want to do is give some sense of what that "hi" was all about. I rest my case.

"many men" all also jerks. There. We got that out of the way. I sympathize with your observation about business slowing down. The industry I work in also has it's busy times and slow times. Comes with the territory of being a discretionary expense. And yes, we get the same guys calling us and trying to bargain down our rates. I've heard our dispatcher hang up on people who were too insistent on lowering the rates. Let me add my voice to the others who said stick by your prices. Your time is worth what you say it is. Hang in there and only accept clients that you feel good about accepting. Both you and the client will enjoy the ride a whole lot more that way. At least, that's how it works in my industry.

I think these things go in cycles. Only you can determine what you feel is a reasonable price for your service. I've seen instances where ladies have started to offer specials which I think is really a bad idea, as you get known for it and you drag the price down for everyone. All you can do is work a little harder at getting more calls, maybe a few new photos or adjusting the way you advertise.

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It's been just over a year since I stumbled across this board and the awesome experiences that resulted. Feeling a bit nostalgic, I realized one thing made it just that much easier to get in. It's that first introduction. I found 2 or 3 MA's that I was thinking about seeing, but had absolutely no idea on what to say in the beginning. Keep in mind, I was completely fresh, and still oh so very innocent :p I had absolutely no idea what the etiquette was, should I be direct in what I was looking for? Talk about the weather like a good Canadian? Say my name and state what time I wanted to see her? I must have thought about that first email for over an hour. And when I sent it off, I was regretting every letter in it. Anyway, one MA gave a few suggestions on what specifically she was looking for, and it helped so much. It kinda normalized things for me, taking this horribly nervous guy to the next step. I appreciated that so much. Anyway, I just want to thank those who have that little bit of a guideline on what you're looking for, it's helped so much.

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Since the vast majority of the population (99 % ?) has no clue about the industry or how it operates they (civilians) would have likely found the story quite fascinating and very titillating. Insiders will obviously have a much different perspective than the media and John and Jane Public for that matter on this topic. There have been stories about Fort Mac and lately from North Dakota a story about a shortage of exotic dancers and I think it goes hand in hand with boom towns. The very exposure the internet provides for meeting perspective clients also puts that same exposure into the public domain. And if I hadn't had some notion of the players exposed I wouldn't have given the story a second glance. The smoke will clear sooner than later and it will be (if it already isn't) business as usual. Peace MG

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I have to agree on this one with Sophia.., stick to yoir rates, you know what you are worth.., there is the guys that just shop around to find a "deal" what the dont understand is that they will get what they pay for... Until some one has had the chance to meet you they cant tell.., and is even worse sometimes as an MA because sometimes some guys (normally not CERB members) will think that just because you dont offer fs your services are not worth..., but what they need to understand is than visiting an MA and An SP are different experiences, and we do both in each case are spending time with them...

Sometimes we just need to weed threw the ones who are bargain hunters. If you stick to your rate, then eventually they move on to find the ones they can afford. I find at times it comes in waves, lol... After they have all contacted you, and you refuse to negotiate, they will simply go elsewhere, no need to waste time with tying to get them in your door, because it can become extremely frustrating and disheartening after awhile:( This is a luxury that not all can afford. Best wishes!!

As a hobbiest, when I request an appointment with a Lady, I consider that I do commit myself toward the provider. It happened to me a couple of time that I had, at the last minute, to cancel due to some emergency related to my work. In those cases, it was obvious to me that the burden of my hectic schedule could not be on the shoulders on the provider, and I offered the full donation, and supplied it. I expect from the Sp that she will be ready for me and available for all the time I've asked. When we agreed on a date and time, it is obvious that the Lady will prepare herself in advance, and her time is not only given during the appointment, but goes beyond. I would consider normal that, at least, the hobbiest offers a compensation, and, like I said, a full compensation would be appropriate. It is up to the provider to accept or refuse, but at least, she will have the possibility to decide what is the best scenario for her in the circumstances. My experiences with SP are only related to the CERB ladies, and I find that we have here the "crême de la crême" of people; to make that possible we have to treat the ladies accordingly.

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Its being discussed in NFLD as well http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=130766 A deposit is one thing, but a lady with one add asking for full payment upfront is enough to make you start to think why? If a reputable lady only asks for a deposit, why would a basic unknown want a full payment, and WHY on earth would you pay someone you dont know upfront in full. Chances are she is not even in the city and it is an internet scam. This is a definite case of Buyer Beware.

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It means a lady who doesn't just lay there limbs spread out while the partner does whatever to them. Starfish: Female sexual partner who remains 'unmoved' or 'unmoving' during lovemaking, physically non-responsive (like a ...), A girl that has no talent or technique for sex. That is, she just lays there spreed out dead in the water, like a starfish. Non starfish service I hope would be a good thing although what a distinction to advertise with. Additional Comments: Or I suppose it's a really obtuse way of saying no Greek..... Being that I love Greek I have never heard this term used but urban Dictionary confirms it. I have much more sexy and delicious terms for the anal bud than starfish.....learn something new every day! Thanks metonycap *kiss*

Maybe it's time for another in your home town.

When I was searching the first time, after reviews and recommendations, the fee was my next deciding factor. I had a number in mind, and anything below or equal to it was a go, anything above was an absolute no. From repeated threads and posts here, one thing that was very clear was that negotiating is just not done. I wanted a great experience, not to sour the SP if I were to meet her, and starting of with "Hey! Discount?!" But those who aren't too particular may not see the harm in asking. You say no, they move on, so it's not a big deal for them. The worst that could happen is that someone they couldn't afford to see has confirmed it. But I'm kinda curious now, if people do ask, is it because sometimes it's worked?

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Once you figured out all your cost and expense minus from your revenue and come up with your profit margin ask yourself is your time worth that amount? Don't cut your prices cause things are slow stick to them. If you really find you need more clientele maybe change your marketing, example get clients to keep comming back, maybe offer small discount to loyal clientele as long as its in you're comfort profit margin. But don't sell yourself short. My personal opinion, I shy away from the ones that offer service too low. They may be great but it leaves a doubt in my mind and worry that its to good to be true. I prefer quality then saving a few bucks but that just my opinion.

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All the advice on here. Helpful information for me. I still get nervous when seeing a sp So thank you :)

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My wife and I have gone for a couples message a few times. We talked about it for a long time in our "dirty talk" during sex. But as you noted things said during that time to not always translate to what folks wish to do outside of play time. In the end I think what finally convinced her to go was one, the hot tub, where we went. As it offered a chance to relax just the two of us. The MP asked if we wanted a little time first to relax before the massage. The other thing was it would be a massage and only would go further if she was comfortable with it having a happy ending. The girl who gave the massage was great at her work and helped her relax and in the end it was a very good time.

Kate is new. She just came here from Toronto. She's probably 20-25 small build. Wears big framed glasses as well but hers are the modern style not ancient ones

I'm sorry for your loss. I too was like, never talked or shared my feelings. You hold it in until you can't, sometimes burst into tears when its too much. You often can't explain what you're feeling or find it difficult to discuss with the ones we love. I can assure you if you keep too much in for too long you are making it worse for yourself. I've learned that lesson the hard way, too much pain, stress and grief caused me to have a mental breakdown. What helped the most is talking. I found it easier to talk to complete strangers than family members. Cause who cares what they think of you, you don't have to ever see them again if you chose not to. Honestly cerb has helped me so much, there are so many kind and caring people here.

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Hi gorgeous! While there are a lot of hotels and restaurants downtown along Princess street, the street is undergoing some serious construction for most of this year. Also, if the nearby K-Rock centre (which is downtown too) is having an event on then parking is even a greater nightmare! Just some things to think about.

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This subject has hit me recently with events in my family. My dad has cancer (Stage III CLL leukemia, bone cancer and lung cancer) When he was first diagnosed, my reaction was normal, wanting him to beat cancer. When I saw him in January, he was skin and bones, if he looked any worse he would look like he came out of a concentration camp. He is alive, but not living. I've come to accept what the outcome of his cancer will be. I'm certainly not looking forward to that day, but I have accepted that it will come. When that day comes definitely I will be grieving. But even though I know that day will come, I can't yet grieve, till the day come. And grieving is part of the healing process. Now it is like being in limbo, not just for me, but for everyone, especially dad. Every time my phone rings my stomach churns, if it rings while I'm driving, I pull off the road to answer, just in case it is the call. The one positive is my brother, his wife, my mother and myself are closer now. Now my mother, not a case of grieving, but she had a cornea transplant. The surgery is over but requires post op follow up exams. So today I was in Hotel Dieu Hospital in Kingston, and again tomorrow, back down to Hotel Dieu. On the plus side, her eyesight is improving. On the down side, I'm beginning to really hate hospital waiting rooms LOL...ahhh it's the cycle of life A rambling RG

Thank you Royal and Empty for sharing. I know it's not easy to talk about loss but I'm sure your posts will bring comfort to those that read them. As empty stated it's never a good idea to hold any feelings inside, the sadness and pain will eventually become less as you learn to cope. We are lucky to be able to still have them with us in our hearts, minds and memories.

The first person I remember losing was my grandfather when I was 10 years old. I was very close to him and I remember missing him but not really understanding what was going on. 6 months later my 8-year-old brother passed away from a brain tumour. I struggled with that a lot because we were best friends. I talked a lot with my mother and she was a big help. Looking back now I don't know how she managed losing a father and son so close together and staying strong enough to help to other sons deal with their grief. As an adult I kind of had a life changing moment when my best friend passed away from cancer in our mid thirties. It made me realize just how short our time on this earth can be and to take advantage of every moment. It's actually one of the reasons I'm on this website and in this hobby today. It also made me realize how fortunate we are to have wonderful friends and family to lean on during difficult times. Talking about my friend, remembering the great times we had and sharing stories with his young daughter were very cathartic for me. I still make regular trips to the cemetery.

You're in for a treat! Charlottetown is a great culinary destination, and every restaurant is open in April. You are going to want to hit up Lot 30 (Kent and University), as it is the best spot you'll ever try ( menu changes all the time, but try the Pork belly!) The Pilot house (Queen and Grafton) is great and famous for their Lobster Stuffed Chicken, and The Merchantman's pub (Queen and Water) has a great burger called "The East West" burger, that contains pickled ginger, and wasabi mayo...it's like digging into some sushi while consuming a delicious hamburger...it's incredible. The fun part about April on PEI is that you can take advantage of PEI's Burger Love campaign that we have every year. It lasts one month, and many restaurants around here compete for the best, and most creative burger. If you are a burger fan, you are going to be amazed with all the choices here. Finally, if you are in the mood for italian, there is nothing better than Siranella's. (Queen and Water.)