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I still don't understand why guys say things like ....... "I don't put a huge amount of stock into reco's" "I don't bother reading them, I will do my own homework" "I don't use or rely on reco's on this board if I want to see a lady" Now this is not a pissing contest gents, I took some of these comments and simply I am shedding light on this very subject from my point of view. My understanding is that...... We are members on a "RECOMMENDATION BOARD" where the entire process,purpose of the board is to "RECOMMEND" providers to others so they may look them up, chat to them, get a personal feel for the lady. I keep reading comments like above and then wonder, why are we here then for? Play some the game threads? To join social groups? YES YES I understand that in a recommendation written about a lady it is about...... "CHEMISTRY" "YMMV" "PERSONAL TASTE" But seriously when I see a comment like "I don't read the rec's" then why bother being here? Maybe I'm naive, or have put countless rec's within this board and get a little pissed off when I see this type of comment, THEN I get guys asking about lady a) AND lady b) that I have written a rec about. Seriously? SOME DAYS I ASK MYSELF WTF? why did he pm myself asking about two ladys the rec's are right there. THIS is where we are to recommend that you had a great time with A lady OR TWO :), so share your thoughts with others, it is good for her, good for her business, it is flattering to her, could be flattering to YOU as well when she might use your recommendation on her web site!!! When I see this being said, it is one of the reasons why I wonder some are here on the board, other than seeking ladies through advertising and having that opportunity to chat through pm's. Let's say, not ONE LADY IS recommended anymore, AND ALL OF those threads were REMOVED, just how much more searching would some gentleman have to do to find out about a lady? For myself, ya you're dam right I read recommendations, because it interests me, that is why I am here, AREN'T YOU HERE FOR THE SAME THING? I use to write graphic novels in a rec, guess over time and my age, I have refrained from that and write a quick note, in a way thanking the ladies for their time, for those that don't, perhaps it is time you do? Here is a small list of recommendations I had started back from 2008 to 2013....2013 starting at the top. This does not include the rec's I particpated in or added to the lady's existing recommendation. I guess you can see why I would be pissed when I hear "I don't read them" AND YES THAT IS YOUR CHOICE http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143396 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60113 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=53018 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122443 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10304 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4150 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28638 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43994 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=128709 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=32388 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=87872 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6810 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=103941 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=53708 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=94038 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12051 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49491 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=27403 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80663 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43409 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=53232 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71368 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=54447 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=53234 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49215 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6879 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15374 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=25981 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12056 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28832 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28945 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=25872 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=22828 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17935 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18445 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17082 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11854 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16213 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15926 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5968 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10041 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4553 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=8048 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7309 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7088 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6044 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4489 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4726 One my fav's as it was fun it has humour and she loved it http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5108 So thank your provider by posting a rec, or read them you may get more insight. I have yet to vote on this poll yet as I wanted to get this off my chest, as I'm here to enjoy the fine companions of Cerb and those that may tour into our city.

I can't speak on the reasons why these women say this, as I don't know them. But. I know a few women in my personal life won't date certain races, and I've heard them say,'I'm not racist... well, I hate XXX race, because a group of them once attacked me/assaulted me/etc" I know how traumatic it can be to be assaulted. I personally have been assaulted by a man twice in my life. Both times, it was a white man. But can you imagine if I said... I won't see white guys? That I hate ALL white guys, because I was assaulted by white guys? No one would think that was okay. I would not think it was okay. The men who assaulted me were assholes, their race doesn't have anything to do with it. It wasn't because they were white, and the men who attacked my friends were assholes, no matter what the colour of their skin. There are scumbags of every colour, just like there are gentlemen of every colour. I will decline your request for an invitation if you are disrespectful, dirty, rude, or cheap. But your race? I could not care less if you are white/brown/black/yellow/orange/purple/etc. (sidebar on the size thing.... I've seen just as many black men with smaller cocks as I've seen white men with gigantic dicks. My purrsonal experience has taught me you never know what you'll see under those boxer shorts til the shorts hit the floor).

You guys need to wake up and stop outing our identities. Did you ever consider the shit this causes for us. We get preyed on by criminals, pimps and other indies or agencies. This shit prevents us from getting jobs and apartments and shames us out of public places. Give your heads a shake! If we did this to you would you get it then!! you lack discretion big time. how notorious for winnipeg. I speak from experience. You have made this provider very unsafe. Anyone who wastes time out of their day on that hateful, malicious site to read slander that a person can't get removed should get a more positive hobby. That shit gets read by potential employers and landlords and family etc. How would you like being posted on it?!!

It is one thing that she's been posted on the dirty.. but is it necessary to "out" her real name here on this board? That's a very very uncool thing to do.

Just wait for it..history will repeat itself like it did with CL when an MP was murdered in a Boston hotel room. It won't take long for Canadian authorities to follow suit once again. I wonder if this will finally be the end of classified sites where mainstream society can find electronics, tires and sex workers all in one site. It was much better when adult industry sites were strictly adult sites. IMO, so much has changed in the business because of these types of sites and not in a good way.

You have to also keep in mind that it isn't always racism for an sp to say they won't see a particular race. Some sps from certain cultures won't see clients from the same race out of concern they might be meeting up with a family friend, or worse. Some sps are dating/married to someone of a race, so again it could be someone related to their SO or ex-SO So the sp could indeed love that race, but just not want to open the door to their cousin's ex SO and the easiest way to avoid that is to put it right in their ad..

When I first joined this site, I struggled with the notion of the recommendation board vs the review concept. I see many of the new people have similar struggles as well. How am I going to figure out who the "bad ones" are? How am I going to share a bad experience so that others can avoid them? I see many newbies blatantly break the rules as they cannot even begin to understand a system that does not answer these questions. It wasn't until I figured out that this is not the goal of the site that I understood its value. It is not to help you find the bad ones. It is to help you find the good ones. As simplistic as that sounds, it was this change in thinking that made me really appreciate what we have here. It has also created an atmosphere where many of the sp's actually want to be here and participate in the forums. This lack of hostility leads to greater interest on their part, which in turn allows me to get to know more of them before I even meet them. Many of the ladies I already felt I knew before I ever met them in person. To me this adds immensely to the overall experience. I think we need to give some careful thought before we pave paradise and put up a parking lot so to speak. The internet has enough of those already. Allowing negativity is only going to drive people away in my opinion. Kudos to the mods for their tireless efforts in keeping the negatives at bay, and making this such a pleasant place to play.

I personally would prefer that CERB remain the same positive community that it is. I have gotten memberships on other boards and quite frankly got PO'd with the garbage so stick with CERB. I don't use/rely on reco's to decide if I want to see a lady. I have my own mind and through communication with said lady I can quickly determine if she's someone I want to see all on my own (usually I can tell by her posts on discussion threads like this one). I try to write reco's with a dual purpose approach, one as a positive recognition for the lady that she did a good job of providing me with a positive experience and also because I know that some clients particularly newbies nervously trying to decide on a first SP might use them.(FYI many newbies are nervous and fall prey to stereotypes of the industry that positive reco's can serve to waylay, hence they book that lady knowing that others have seen that lady and have had "safe" positive experiences) Realistically, (maybe it shouldn't be but) the YMMV factor is HUGE from one client to another so there is almost certain that my experience (as a dream client LOL) will not be your experience. Therefore everyone should always read Reco's/reviews with a grain of salt. Humans with different personalities will all interact differently, a lady with a sharp tongue might be described as bitchy in a negative review by a meek client however I might happen to enjoy her wit and meet her comment for comment. His experience might be soured mine might be fun filled but I happen to enjoy challenging ladies while he might be uncomfortable with a ladies expression of self. My humble thought's are that allowing even tempered/moderated negativity on the board will result in boundaries being pushed resulting in an overall tone shift from clients and companions as equals in positive board participation over time.

Gel or Jelly ANYTHING is TERRIBLE! They harbor bacteria and you can never truly get them clean. Silicon is the way to go as there is no chance of bacterial growth and they are very easily sterilized. For those with latex sensitivities or even vaginal PH issues, stay away from anything jelly or even rubber. You're playing with fire.

As a white man I would never see someone who advertises NO BLACKS. Racism for me is never acceptable. Judging someone solely on their race is wrong.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/ID/2398843083/ the video of the CBC newscast

Personally, I don't like thinking of the relationships I have in the industry as less real than relationships I have outside the industry. I also don't like thinking about this notion of "fantasy" versus "reality". Life is so much more complicated than real/fake or fantasy/reality. I think boundaries are really important between a service provider and client, but they are equally important in all relationships be they in the industry or not. People have different boundaries (sometimes fluid and sometimes not) for different reasons and I think it's important we respect the decisions people make about their relationships and business model(s).

Ottawa is by far the busy city on cerb (it's closely related to EC and LYLA.com - Both have always been very strong in the ottawa market). I am so happy to see all the great comments of our members about how much they enjoy the positive take that cerb has (makes me proud so thank you all for that). I have to find a way to get other cities on board.

Please don't feed the trolls. Just use the REPORT THIS POST icon and DO NOT COMMENT publicly - you make my job harder and often give the troll the drama they are looking for. I had to delete a LOT of posts in this thread and now close it too.

Best birthday gift ever: the Embassy of Brazil approved my tourist visa application! That was the last piece of the puzzle. Omg. So excited. I'll be gone from August 11th - September 8th! *jumps around excitedly* ahhhhh!

I am with you on this! How many times do I hear the aged old story.... "she got caught going threw a guy's wallet" I mean, this is the first thing some will say to ruin a ladies reputation. I have even heard this about me! I have had many situations over the years that I had to spend hours days, weeks, months and years, trying to clear my good name! Some men's heads are so easily turned by a pretty ladies power, that they can make their men hobbyist do what ever they like. Like posting these awful lies, gathering info for them, getting location, fake appts in various cities. In some cases these got out of hand to the point a whole group of ladies and men decide to jump on the bash wagon just from "hearing about" these lies. The haters. This is so bothersome, as most of the haters have never ever met me or communicated with me. I feel there is no need for negative reviews, as with all things the true character will show through. If I was a thief, let's say....chances are I will not be in business long. If everything I have ever heard about me was posted, there would be no reason to stay here, I might as well close my account, as surly I can not survive all my haters attacks. It would cause me more harm to be on the site then it would be worth. I have other ways I can advertise that do not include sites that can have reviews. I do feel for the Gent's who let's say get swindled out of thousands of dollars. I am close to 2 hobbyist that this has happened. IN BOTH CASES they allowed the SP and Hobbyiest barrier get crossed. Sharing too intimate details of their lives, ie, wife name, home address, financial standing, weaknesses like sorrows. After few months of booking the lady, the lady starts with little favors, " can you help me on my cell phone" or "OMG I cant pay my rent because..." we can work it out on your next visit. IF YOU DO THIS you are opening Pandora's box if trouble. You see a pattern in this behaviour till one day your 20 thousand in the hole, and threats being made about exposing you to your boss, wife, kids. BEST SUGGESTION I THINK is to learn from each other's mistakes without having to "out" her name. But look at patterns in how these women pull this off. Maybe a social group that doesn't out names, but rather share your experiences to help others see what NOT to do when you think an SP is getting too close that barrier. Not sure if there is a solid answer on these issues. What will be done will be done. It is more important to watch, listen and learn from other's that have been in the same boat as you. Got to play smart, and don't be no one's fool.

Everyone has their own approach to this. I will add one aspect which has worked extremely well for me. PLANNING - I know it doesn't work for everyone but the encounters I've been able to plan well ahead of time are generally better. It allows for any technical glitches or absences so that we have time to initially connect. It presents an opportunity to have some exchange in advance on all business aspects. I can provide a little more about me and learn more about the lady to better know if we might click. It gives us (ME) time to anticipate and get excited over days prior to our meeting. If you can plan ahead a little - my sense is the odds are with you that things will work out well. Cub

I agree with megforfun and gegefatale...well said ladies! this is my input! When i first read the topic my jaw litteraly dropped...like what? some girls actually write that in their ads!! :icon_confused: Its one thing to be selective but refuse someone because of race...hmmm...let me put it that way...morons do not come in a specific colour(race)!!!! Those SPs are missing out on amazing gents....too bad for them and good for us open minded SPs ;) nuff said!

I always tell a prospective provider that I am black. It is her RIGHT to refuse to see a black person. Disclosing my race serves two purposes : (1) it allows her to come up with a good excuse (for example, emergency in the family) to cancel the date and (2) avoids placing her in an uncomfortable position should she honour the appointment only to meet a black man. Brother, why are you confused? Don't you have confidence in yourself? NEVER allow any one to make you feel inadequate. If you are turned down, find another date. Cheers.

I personally love to read the recommendations. I have in the past booked with ladies with no reco's, but for the most part I prefer to see a couple of posts about them first. Part of it is perhaps laziness, as it can answer a lot of questions about the type of experience the lady offers without having to bother her with pm's and emails that may not lead anywhere. I understand that each experience may be different and YMMV, so I'm not necessarily looking to specific details, but for the overall feel and impression of an encounter. You can tell a lot from what is said, and often even more from what is not said. The reco's also show me that this is person is who she says she is, the pics are real, and that someone at least has had a very good time. I love the fact that this is a recommendation site and not a review site as it forces people to focus on the positive. I've never given a lot of weight to negative reviews as often the reviewer is being petty or has an ax to grind. It's often easier for people to focus on the bad stuff, which to me means that when someone says something good, they normally mean it.

Good day Silversun. Just wanted to share with you my thoughts about a 'one poster' coming on board looking for info on 2 sp's that have been mentioned here on cerb. I'm not looking to single you out for criticism, but this is an issue here on cerb. While it appears that you are new here (join date of July 2013), you mention that you've 'been with girls that are a little chubby'. In order to establish some cred for yourself, consider posting something about those ladies that you've already seen. For all I know, you could be LE or a disgruntled former boyfriend, or whatever.. While you're at it, learn how to search the forums using the search feature. Surprising how much info is already posted about each of these girls. I know this sounds a bit bitchy, but the information on this site is member generated. In Winnipeg, it really means about 12 members posting information about their experiences, and 200 members lurking & reading or asking to have the details pm'd to them. Now that I've got that off my chest, I'll have my Ovaltine and shuffle off to bed now..

The escorting world is extremely discriminating, everyone knows this. One of the main reasons why I'm independent is because I couldn't find a solid agency to hire me due to my skin color. But it shouldn't come to a surprise to us, just look at the media, magazines, and fashion shows. The majority of women are white, skinny, and blonde or brunette. It has been this way for many years, and since media has an affect on our society, we choose to believe whatever they portray as beautiful and sexy. Now regarding the "no black client" issue, I believe this also has to do with what the media has influenced us. You see tons of news stories about black robbers, murderers, black gangsters, rappers, abusing women, there's so much negativity around black men in the news it's quite astonishing. Everyone has their right to a preference, and especially with this service the girl should have the right to say no. Although most of us women here are wise and educated enough to not judge clients on their race. I certainly had my bad experiences with black clients but that doesn't stop me from seeing a future one. I do tend to be cautious but I would never refuse. Just my 2 cents : )

It is so sad in this day and age that people will still discriminate like this. I grew up in a multi-cultural city and had friends of every race and religion. I didn't know any different, to me it was normal. I have friends who did not grow up in a multi-cultural environment, and were really culture shocked when meeting someone of a different race for the first time. I never got it, until I visited them in their home town. Then I realized why they had such a reaction. They had no experience with other cultures. I have met some of the nicest people of all races, place of birth, religion. I never ask them what race they are when making inquiries. If they are respectful, mature and kind, they are someone I want to see. Some of my most difficult clients are in fact white. Rude, redneck, bigots. They never get a second date with me. I wish that people could see through the color of each others skin, and judge those by their actions instead. xoxo

I've been enjoying this thread except I am of the different camp. The metal rings are fucking brilliant. Not only are they sexy as fuck but there are so many ways to customize. I know they seem scary but as long as you're measuring correctly, OMG, sex in a silver ring! Not for everyone but *drool*

I find it funny such a thread would come up yesterday/today as it was a topic I was thinking of raising. I'm not caucasian, and I used to feel like why should I disclose that info? Not because I'm ashamed or afraid but simply because it shouldn't matter. If an SP doesn't state it in her ad then it must not matter (I mean it's 2013...) Many good points were raised already, Lipua's method makes it easy for everyone to save face and no one to get their feelings hurt. I'm proud to be who I am. I can also understand, some ladies might have had issues with particular ethnicities and don't want to risk it again. You don't have to be in our "world" to have faced such a situation before. My only issue has always been when an SP doesn't state they have preferences and proceeds treats you like you are less than a human being when you meet. It takes 2 to tango, I think both parties should make a reasonable effort to make their preferences known. If there are things you don't wish to publish why not use the PM function? I've arrived at someone's residence to a "uhh...ohh...yeah, wish you would have said you were like that...or one of those..." So now to avoid that feeling I usually mention it before hand. Tough pill to swallow... fortunately not everyone is like that. I can vouch for Megforfun...she's lot's of fun and doesn't discriminate!!

I've had many people comment they heard good things or read my reco's and this is when I appreciate them because it has helped someone make a decision. I enjoy knowing about our time together from the other side as well. I believe reco's, like many things, are "to each their own". Some enjoy writing/reading and others do not. I appreciate everyone who takes a moment to create one but it doesn't taint my thoughts or memory about someone if they chose not to. As Brad said, this is merely one avenue available for interested parties to research. Thankfully CERB has many avenues available to its members so you can utilize as much or as little as you feel necessary. As a tool, it's wonderful. As recognition, it can be lovely.

I would have to say that for me, my acceptance of a visitor is based mainly on respect, personality and maturity (maturity as in language skills, personal interaction skills...I think you get it). I have seen people of many different ethnic backgrounds and many different age groups. My decisions to carry on communications are based on how you present yourself to me. Race, religion and age are never my first worry. It is unfortunate that some people have made a bad name for certain races and you can never fault a lady for deciding who she wishes to be intimate with; it is after all ultimately her decision. Fortunateone is right, look for restrictions on a ladies site and seek out those who meet your desires :)

Ha Ha can you enter your own smile???

Let me clarify then. This woman obviously has allowed you into her private life and it is now being written about in a public forum with a PM system. I view a post like this with all of it's implications akin to a quilting bee, rumour mill or a gossip circle. Even if it is true, it is none of our business and without her direct consent should not be a topic of conversation on a business internet forum. When a provider allows a client insight into her personal life it is a given that it is a privilege and therefore the information is not to be disclosed to the general public unless she herself has posted about it previously. Just because one person is privy to private information doesn't mean the community is in need of knowing. I do realize that you didn't give out information that would identify the SP to us but I'm sure you have received (or will) PMs asking who he speaks about. We never know who will say what to whom which is why we guard and protect all that is precious to us from clients. Just don't go there. She has obviously fallen into difficult times, it needn't become the topic of the week. Discretion is a verb and it goes both ways... cat

Boundaries can be blurred for a variety of reasons. Life is complicated and relationships are sometimes complex, including those we have in this industry. While the blurring of boundaries isn't the norm, people are people, and sometimes people meet in this profession and become friends, develop relationships, get married, break up, reach out to each other for help and/or support and genuinely enjoy each others' company. We're all vulnerable, and our hearts are tender. This isn't the only profession where boundaries can be and are sometimes blurred. Any caring type profession has these issues as well (nannies, nurses, care-givers, therapists, doctors, etc.). It's an interesting question for sure, but I doubt you'll get much response. When those boundaries are blurred it really is a privilege and a gift. It should be respected as such. :)

I've seen this on a number of ladies ads, I'm not sure why these ladies refuse to see Black clients as a black man this confuses me greatly. Does any of the Sp's on here have an explanation?

Here I go again, just a quick rambling. A couple ladies I see/have seen, when we were in conversations during an encounter reflected that for guys, review boards are part of the "hobby" (I hate that word when used for this lifestyle) and hobby implies recreation, escape, enjoyment etc. But for the ladies, coming on the review boards is for them work, a part of their job (yes, this isn't a hobby to them, it is their livelihood) and most boards are a necessary but unpleasant evil for them. CERB on the other hand, while part of their livelihood, because of it's positivity is not so much part of work, and the ladies are as much (and they should) equal members of this community. The other boards don't foster this same community spirit for them. If CERB goes the route of a review board, I fear the community spirit will go, and so will many of the ladies too. As for reviews in general. If a review was done in a respectful responsible manner, I would be less opposed. But a couple examples from some review boards I was on, and why I quit them all and stuck with CERB Case One. I wrote a recommendation of a lady, one I posted here. I also posted it on this review board I was on at the time. Well I got a slew of PM's bashing me for not writing the real intimate details, telling everyone what she does and so on. I said that was private, and was bashed on PM's for saying so, the gist being only reviews with the nitty gritty details are worth posting and if I wouldn't do reviews like that, don't post. I closed my account Case Two. A "man" posted his review of a lady. His review of this lady went something like this. A friend of a friend saw her. Had a bad encounter, so I won't see her. He reviewed a lady he never even saw. Closed my account to that board too. BTW both ladies I have seen, and aren't review worthy, they are recommendation worthy It seems, and I may be generalizing here, but review boards seem to cater to those who want either a review which bashes the lady or reads like Penthouse Forum So for what it's worth, I think CERB should stick to being a recommendation board. If guys want to read reviews, there are other board out there, nothing says you can't join them too. And I fear a decline in the ladies' participation or worse, closing of their accounts if we go the route of an escort review board That's my two cents worth RG Oooppps one quick comment. When I was on the other boards, I didn't enjoy being on them, unlike CERB which I do enjoy being on and contributing too. So closing my accounts there was no hardship. And I had six bad encounters, five I could chalk up to YMMV (being generous here) but not review worthy (review meaning negative review) But one I had, it was REVIEW worthy, that bad. It wasn't so much that she stole money from me but she robbed me of an encounter. But as bad as she was, I could only review on another board, and I'd rather be a positive contributor here than a negative one on another board if that makes sense. Plus it made me appreciate all the more those good and great companions I see.

Being a woman yourself you probably know how to approach another lady.., ;-) Done be afraid of asking questions, at the end communication is essential.. Is important that you find a person that would be as attractive to you.., same as your hubby.. make it all about you two... Also in my point of view as a provider let the lady know who you want the aatention focus during the massage, You, Your husband or both of you equally.. that will help the lady provide the best experience for you and your SO... Good luck V

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I called out someone who advertised this on another site quite a while ago as I thought is was racist to deny a particular race but most responded that it wasn't, it was personal taste. This girl said she was not physically attracted to darker skinned people and was not being racist and it was her right to deny any one she wasn't attracted to. Many also supported her and agreed because of the nature of this business, the intimacy involved , physical attraction was important, obviously. Well those responses left me confused and a little swayed, perhaps I was wrong? Now I'm not sure. Of course we all have a right to see who we choose as do our clients I mean many men make it clear they will not see females with bust enhancements, particular hair colors, ect, ect. Although these traits don't imply racism but do unfairly deny some really great people meeting one another. Completely eliminating anyone because of some physical trait wether it be skin color, hair color, size ect just shortens your list and as I said eliminates some really great people but who am I to judge, we all do have the right to choose:)

Yeah, she'll be "tooken" away in handcuffs, and her graduation will be put off for another 2 years. Although at that point she will be telling the truth about it being her last day.

Here's a good idea!.....Let's see, go on TV and brag about making a $1,000 bucks a day thumbing your nose at LE and perhaps even worse the CRA. Wouldn't be real tough for either to find the "pashiniot" one of many names and many retirement dates... Peace MG

Sorry beautiful lady....here are the links! https://mobility.telus.com/en/NS/samsung_galaxy_s4/index.shtml\ https://mobility.telus.com/en/NS/samsung_galaxy_note_II/index.shtml Those should get you started! *muah*

I just remembered that I wrote a longer post about cock rings awhile ago in which I describe the variety available, not including the metal ones. When I wrote it, I often cleaned the silicone rings after using them, but I don't do that anymore. You can boil them or put them in the dishwasher. I decided that they weren't very expensive and that it would just be simpler to throw the used ones away. Probably bad for the environment or something, but sometimes simplicity is the best thing for me. Someone recently brought a package of 3 rings that looked like the silicone ones but were actually made of gel. I don't use gel toys, ever, so I set them aside. These things are really inexpensive so I don't think there's any advantage to saving $2-3 for inferior, carcinogenic material made in a country with uncertain quality control.

Looks cute. Couldn't find any reviews on her though. Anyone have info? http://ottawa..........com/FemaleEscorts/heavenly-hailey-dreamgirl-80-special-exotic-dancer-21/17971437

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A stylus is a pen shape object to use on the screen of your phone. So instead of tapping with your finger, you're using that pen. Allows for more precision, and if kinda neat to draw stuff. Some apps also have handwriting recognition, but it's not completely precise. So you could use a stylus to write as you would with a pen, but based on my experience, I'm more of a button guy. It might be worth trying out the stylus in a telus store

Hi ! If I was going to buy a phone I'd grab the Samsung Note 2, huge screen and you can use a stylus to write if you want. Cheers ! Jack

S is for sexy conversations that inflame my mind and make me crave SO much!

L - long slow, wet and wild

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Just a quick note..... All providers have "real lives" and many aren't sitting around waiting for last minute inquires. Many of us prefer low volume planned dates as well. The majority of us do like to spend our time living our lives and aren't generally found scantily clad beside the telephone anticipating your short notice inquires. With the exception being when we are no showed, which unfortunately is a increasing trend here in winnipeg.

Lol, ya that should have been warning sign number one. First rule of sales, make your product or service a limited time offer!

Perhaps I'm still new and not as jaded as some but I find money talk in this hobby to be incredibly uncomfortable. To be honest, I rarely even contact a lady unless her rates are clearly posted because I don't want to talk about it. Especially if I'm the one who has to bring it up. Call me a bit of a romantic but I kind of like to not think about the money part and just enjoy being with a lady. If the money is discreetly put in an envelope and dropped on a table and never acknowledged, you can forget about it and just pretend it isn't even a business transaction. Trying to reduce this to a simple dollars for value equation sucks the joy right out of it. I feel sorry for the guys who see it that way because they're missing out. Sharing an intimate moment with someone is not just a transaction, a debit in a column of some budget. If you think this has anything in common with buying a sofa or hiring a contractor, there's something wrong with your soul. You're missing the beauty and magic of the real connection with someone, even if it's just for a while. The last thing I want to do is to introduce discord to jeopardize the chance of finding some real chemistry. So yeah, if this is just about finding a convenient hole to stick your dick in, light 'er up. Maybe her rates are negotiable because she deliberately sets them high so that she has room to move. But maybe she's in a bad way and desperately needs money this week. Is that how you want to "win"? Then go ahead, take advantage. Savor your victory of saving money at the misfortune of another human being. Me, I'm just gonna keep meeting wonderful, sexy ladies and continue to marvel, to be absolutely astonished, that they are so generous as to share themselves with me. Because most of the ladies I've met so far are pretty awesome and I wouldn't have imagined that they'd be available for any price.