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I have been the victim of sexual assault. That is NOT something I am going to talk about here, but if you are saying victims of sexual assault will feel belittled by Georgiana's post, I point it out to say that I am a victim of sexual assault, and I do not in any way feel belittled by what she had to say. I don't believe that was her intention at all, and I didn't infer any of that from what she had to say. I'm sorry if you feel that way, and I appreciate it if you feel you're trying to stand up for something, or someone, but I truly believe you're placing ill-intentions behind a post that was not made with any ill-intentions whatsoever. We all need to keep in mind that sometimes people use the wrong word, or a sentence can be typed a bit too fast, or whatever the reason may be that an online post isn't read the way it was typed. But I honestly agree with her - I do not think that anyone should feel 'contractually obligated' to perform. If, for every encounter, I had to sit there and think 'Did I kiss him deep enough, was the blowjob long enough' etc etc, and worrying about if I'd fulfilled my end of the contract.... well honestly, I wouldn't keep doing this because it wouldn't be fun. I tell my clients that I don't do anything I don't wanna do - and that's true. If something doesn't feel good, I won't do it. And if someone was to say 'Nope, you need to let me continue going down on you, even though your clit is sensitive from that orgasm, because you told me there would be no limit on how long I could DATY, it's in our contract'. Jeebus. Where is the fun in that? THat WOULD feel like coercion. That isn't a word anyone wants involved in an encounter , but I also don't think that the use of that word means Gia was playing any kind of 'trump card'.

I think this has been brought up before, although perhaps it was on another thread, but you cannot have any legal contract that forces a person to perform a sexual act, or that punishes him or her for failing to perform that act. There are other rights that take precedence over contract law. So in terms of talking about a legal contract that can be enforced, I don't believe there can be one. In terms of compensation made to the client if a discussed act was not performed, I think that is fair if the provider agrees that the decision not to offer the service was not the fault of the client. I think it is a matter of reputation and professionalism on the part of the provider that is in her best interest. I also think that most clients are good people who don't deserve to go in with understandable expectations and then feel that they were deliberately misled and swindled. But I also think that the SP in question is the one best able to determine whether or not delivery of services was reasonable under the circumstances. I don't think forcing her to prove, somehow, to some kind of enforcement agency that she couldn't reasonably be expected to perform the act is possible. Putting someone in the position where they have to prove the impossible (how can she prove he was rude, or not clean?), or face punishment of some kind (financial, in this case) would leave a sense that a provider must do what sexual acts she's told or else. Especially when most contracts are apparently verbal. How does she prove she didn't agree to what he says she did? I assume the onus would be on him, but hopefully you see what I am aiming at. Talking about enforcing contracts leaves a lot of room for abuse and intimidation. Even if the contract is written (in emails, for example), in terms of enforcing that, how does a client prove that he did, in fact, have impeccable hygiene, or that he did not act offensively toward the provider? He's not any better able to prove his side of things than she is. As other's have pointed out, even if it were a contract enforcible by law, which I believe it isn't, there is so much he said/she said that I don't see any way to make a fair decision. And in terms of the decision, if a woman promises uncovered oral over the phone, and then declines during the encounter, what would one sue for? A $20 refund? $10 000 for mental anguish, including loss of self esteem? Again, I don't think potential punishment should hang over the head of a woman you are asking to perform sexual services for you. I understand that legal contracts were brought up to point out that there should be some protection for the client when contracting services, or simply out of curiously for how it would play out given the changing laws. But I am very, very uncomfortable with talk of enFORCING that sexual services be delivered. I do wish there were a way, other than doing a lot of research (I understand that sometimes anyone might want to make an impulse purchase of services with a feeling of safety) that would give clients some kind of guarantee that their money will be well-spent and their encounter will unfold as they hope. But whenever I look at punishing someone for not delivering sexual services it just gets a bit of a rapey vibe for me. Weighing the loss of money vs coercion to perform sexual acts, I find the loss on money is less bad. And I hold to that even as a client, since I sometimes see female MAs myself. I completely understand that clients feel they are always left without sympathy or recourse, so I hope this post hasn't sounded confrontational or, I don't know, lecturing. I'm just trying to show that the idea of having an enforcible contract in practice is not really workable.

Wow.. this is quite the thread. I hope guys who like to talk about paying last, (and only if it's worth it,) and making legal contracts with escorts, (so that you can be sure she's going to suck your dick without a condom,) carry lots of lube with them... because I don't think this sort of stuff is ever going to make anyone wet... ever.

I am not resorting to emotional appeals nor inflammatory statements to win an argument. How very, very dismissive and condescending of you to say so. If you are not able to understand my points, that is fine. But do NOT assign me motivations. I explained things exactly as I see them, and obviously I am not the only one who sees things that way. I tried to keep the points at which we disagree civil, but you obviously have no interest in that. I have put myself out there where I would be better off staying silent to protect my business interests, because I thought it was worthwhile to have all points of view on the table. If your only response to my posts is to say that I am just wrong, and that I am making light of consent, then I will not bother trying to have a reasoned debate with you in future. There are more positive ways I can spend my time.

I don't believe I misinterpreted anything. There was a discussion about legal contracts and going before judges. So I did not draw my argument from nothing. I agree that no one has suggested that anyone be forced to perform sexual acts -- no one on here, anyway -- but if you set up financial consequences for failing to perform them then there is a sense of potential punishment hanging over the head of the provider. I don't see any way around that. Especially with things that are so difficult to quantify, such as the depth of a deep french kiss. Rephrasing things to say, basically, that she isn't losing money, he's just gaining money back, doesn't change the fact that the provider has lost income because a client feels he didn't receive what he thought was agreed upon. So I think my word choices have been correct. There can be a difference between what is intended and what is. To say that no one intends to coerce providers (I'm not trying to throw the word at anyone, but it's the one of the words under discussion) is not the same as saying that the provider doesn't reasonably think that she will be punished for not giving the client what he wants -- even when she finds it is not feasible once they meet (ymmv due to hygiene, etc). I don't believe the word contract, especially as is being discussed by some -- a legal contract -- should apply to a sexual encounter. I do not agree to specific acts in advance, so in my case it's moot, but I do think that even where services are discussed it should be understood and accepted that the services may vary. I used the term "rapey-vibe" because that is exactly how it feels to me. I can't change that that is how it feels to me. I don't like to ever hear of anyone being under contract to perform certain acts, or to make restitution if they don't. I actually don't think people should promise specific things in the first place, though. Because I do think one should deliver on one's promises and I think that where we might not be able to, we shouldn't promise. But the thing is, that's not that easy for a lot of providers, because many clients HATE it when you seem to be coy about what you offer. There do seem to be providers who would be willing to alter the fee structure a bit if something comes up, and, again, I think that is the right thing to do. I am uncomfortable with it being a sort of codified, by contract, thing, though, because I think there is too much room for potential abuse. I think it creates a more frightening and negative environment for providers, without offering much to clients as these things are hard to prove, anyway. My whole point is that it's unworkable. I think it would be nice to be able to call up any provider and get what is promised without worrying about being ripped off. I just can't see a workable solution. If it's a matter of "What is right?" Then a legitimately aggrieved client should get some form of recompense. I'm against trying to enforce what is technically right for the reasons I've stated. Too tough to prove, too much room for misuse. I can't take back the terms I've used because as some men have pointed out, there are two sides to everything. It may suck to hear that this is how it sounds to some of us when people talk about contracts, but if you want real opinions, then it's good to be aware that this IS how it sounds to some people. Some clients feel that things are too much in favour of SPs all the time. We may or may not agree, but saying the opinions sound yucky doesn't do any good. I'm not sure any of us will change anyone's mind on this matter, and I'm not out to offend anyone or make any feel that they are being treated to a condescending lecture. It's a bit draining for me to try to convey something controversial and likely to be unpopular with many on a forum where anything I say may effect my business. But since the involvement of the ladies side of things is one of the advantages of this board, I thought I would add my viewpoint. In any case, I am not looking for a fight over this, and I don't want to repeat my points ad nauseam, so if anyone has further issues with my posts, I may just agree to disagree.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I actually really enjoyed Django Unchained. But then I'm a huge fan of the Western genre. I think a mistake most people make when approaching a western is to think they'll be seeing an "action" movie. Most westerns are pretty slow paced in comparison with the action genre. I would argue that one of the best Westerns of all time, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly has an even slower pace than Django. The first 15 mins of the movie is two guys sitting at a table staring at each other and barely saying a word. If you're looking for super hyper, fast paced action than Westerns are probably not for you. Posted via Mobile Device

I've had mine, and I recommend it. Gardasil is now approved for use in Canada for all sexually active women up to age 45. This specific vaccine protects against the four most common main strains of HPV - the 2 (strains 16 & 18 ) which cause 70% of all cervical cancers, and the 2 (strains 6 & 11) which cause 90% of all warts. Like Jessica, I've also had the Twinrix (Hep A & B) vaccines. Both give me an extra tiny bit of peace of mind. Can you post this "respectable source" and what exactly you think is exaggerated? It's not an opinion that HPV can cause cervical cancer, or genital warts, it is fact. It's also true that you can have HPV with no adverse health affects at all. It all depends on the strain(s) contracted... But why take the risk? The medical community pretty much agrees that the results have been a staggering achievement in the reduction of HPV cases in people who have been vaccinated, cutting infection rates by more than half! Also, with very little adverse reactions to the actual vaccine. And actually most health plans do cover it. Alternatively, it is considered a health expense claim for self employed individuals (SPs) when filing our taxes. I don't know how common it is among other sex-workers, as I can only take care of myself, and do what I can to protect my own health as I see fit.

I've been vaccinated, by choice, and at my own expense. The HPV Vaccine Guardasil does not protect one from every strain of HPV virus, but I figure it's better to get it than not get it... right? Every bit of protection helps. I am over 35, but as I'm single and sexually active my doctor didn't think twice about prescribing it, I'm considered 'high risk' due to those circumstances. I'm sure it's also available to males outside the target age range depending on your specific circumstances. It's available no charge for young men and women late teens I understand they are vaccinated as part of the series of standard vaccinations. It's three needles, taken at 0, 3 and 6 months. As they have to be refrigerated you need to have them dispensed separately, so each needle is about $175 including dispensing fees.... approx $525 and worth every penny. I also got the Twinrix vaccine .. cost a couple of hundred bucks.. that's the one for Hep A & B. Also available from your doctor with a simple request.

Everyone's a bit hesitant the first time - really though, it's just safety first. Please be sure to do your research on this board and the other prairie/pacific review board, choose a companion who's well-endorsed by others, then don't worry about phoning her and letting her know that you're new at this. If she's an experienced companion she'll go out of her way to help make you feel comfortable.

What the ten smartest animals on the planet were, or in which order they fall, it might surprise you:) http://www.therichest.com/animals/the-top-10-smartest-animals-in-the-world/

I've read all 5 books and can't wait to sink my teeth into the next! I think it's hilarious to see people complain about waiting a few months for the next season...LOL! If only the wait between books was that short! I could be a debbie-downer by sitting here and pointing out all the tiny miniscule differences between book/show, but as stated; they are tiny and miniscule therefore not worth discussing at length. The show is amazing, the books are magical... And I want to do dirty things Gendry "the bastard" Storm. And Jon "the bastard" Snow. And Jamie "kingslayer" Lannister. Hell let me get in a room will all 3 of them and I'll die a happy lady! That is all. This may be humorous to GoT fans: http://kotaku.com/bad-lip-reading-turns-game-of-thrones-into-hilarious-no-1446342284?autoplay=1

My apologies. This was not meant to demean SP(s). I had a bad experience with an SP who decided to text me on my private phone in the evening. My phone was left in the Kitchen where my spouse saw the display. I made a few mistakes here and you're right, the SP was very aggressive. By the way, this happened in Montreal not Ottawa. When I get close the SP's location, I usually use the company cell phone. I'm the one that's the idiot that shared my personal cell phone number. Of course, I would delete all text messages, but sometimes, the mind isn't always there. I hope my honesty will be accepted with an open heart. Blade

It's very easy to read the discussions and become disillusioned thinking that every guy on here is as great at the ones who post. But they're not. In fact, the two biggest creeps I've met, came from right here on cerb. I think this is something people need to keep in mind every time a similar conversation comes up on here (about pre-paying, references, anything to do with a lady's procedures). The guys who participate in the forums are probably not the ones we need to worry about. The procedures aren't necessarily for them (Even my own. I posted on another thread that I would ask someone to leave if they didn't put the payment down up front. I've met some gentlemen from cerb that I'm so comfortable with based on their post history/attitude on here I didn't even think of it, and wasn't at all worried about being ripped off. But that's the exception, not the rule - and it was MY choice to bend my rule, not his). The procedures are there for the big, sometimes dark, sometimes scary, part of this business that you guys just don't see on here. But that doesn't mean it's not there.

watching the slow deterioration of a parent's health. Growing old not only sucks, but sometimes seems just inhumane.

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The same could be said for women though, key word being appreciation. A lot of women either only like tall muscular guys or don't care at all about appearance. Would be nice if those with different tastes were vocal about it.

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Happy Birthday! :)

I think people repeat in general because of the fear of the unknown. That's why people go to the same restaurant, order the same food, shop in the same places. once you've been satisfied with something, the risk increases to try something new.

Happy birthday, Redseductress! Hope you're having a spectacular time!

Tsunami? Armageddon? No, just cloud on the mountains. While I'm thinking about it - anyone who likes this thread and is on Twitter should probably follow @Earth_Pics #FF

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Splitz, you were asked to provide your reasoning for a hobbyist-only section of Cerb, and I can appreciate that you've done so. However, while I understand what you are saying and I think you've respectfully tried to lay out your reasons, I still wouldn't want to see such a section created. You are right that I wouldn't feel comfortable in a public recommendation getting into details of a lady's physical attributes or sexual preferences/acts, etc. However, I also wouldn't feel comfortable doing so in a private section as you describe it. Just because the lady may not be able to see it doesn't, to my mind, make it "not public". Rather it would make me feel like I'm just talking about her behind her back, and my own feeling is that if she wants such details shared then she'll do so herself. Whatever benefit such a section may have also seems, to my mind, not to outweigh the potential harm and ways that it could be abused. Basically, I think it would cause more work and heartache than it would save. I've heard some other sites have very little involvement by the ladies. One of the things I specifically like about Cerb is how present and active the ladies are in the discussions. I'd hate to see anything that would take away from that. I know you said that any gent who wouldn't want to use a private-only section could just avoid it, but you also have been asking for opinions, so for what it's worth, there ya go. Cheers.

I don't know who Alexxxxia is. Do you mean Alyssa Staxx? I've seen Gina twice and it was amazing both times. Highly recommended. Polydeuces

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This is by far THE MOST disturbing thing I have EVER read on CERB and believe me I've read some interesting threads. It is ALWAYS 1000000% THE LADY'S RULES! You do not make the rules, EVER. You can inquire about services provided but you DO NOT dictate what a girl will or will not do with you, how she screens her clients, never YOUR CHOICE!....HOW DARE YOU EVEN SUGGEST SUCH A THING??? Yes, I am yelling, caps lock was not an accident there. I am infuriated by this remark... Even though I know most of the ladies here don't like being compared to other business, I personally don't see a difference (If we believe we're "different" then no wonder the public shuns us, I'd rather be accepted among ALL professions than cast aside, my POV), so here goes: Do you walk into a restaurant and alter their menu? Do you buy a car and tell them what you are going to pay for it? Do you tell your physician which medications to prescribe you? No. No. No. DO NOT PRESUME TO DICTATE HOW WE BUSINESS OWNERS RUN OUR BUSINESSES. OUR BUSINESSES, NOT YOURS. disgusting. /end rant

Nothing like actually calling up and verifying! They are not closed! They were just undergoing renovations!

I think an easier question is how many guys are single...... Posted via Mobile Device

Happy Birthday Redseductress Enjoy your special day RG

Happy Birthday Redseductress - hope its the best yet! xoxo

Happy Birthday Redseductress, hope you enjoy your day!

I want to go here.

Hey, now, if you throw in a TREEHOUSE I might start to waver...! :) Offhand I think that yeah -- as you touch upon, it has enormous potential to become a "okay, now that we're in private, let me tell yo the real scoop on X!". That stuff is always hanging over the heads of a board like this, and I think a private section would begin to provide a shadowy corner that would absolutely breed mischief if not closely policed. Oddly enough, I can't think of a single thing I might discuss here that wouldn't be better served by including the opinions of women here too. Testicles? Hell yes! I'll talk about my testicles amongst the women of CERB, at least those who don't click away as soon as they see the subject. :)

I agree with moviefan..."the butler" is an amazing movie...even Oprah winfrey is quite good playing the butler's wife! I also watched Wolverine...I'm a big fan of Xmen...It starts slow but lots of action half way and through the end... Next one to see is men of steel...another "superman" movie i need to see :)

I have met her several times, and have been impressed every time. I arrived on time, as expected for a CERB member, and was awed by my sight in front of my eyes. The pic that she sent me definitely was just starting touch.A beautiful woman, great body. She is a great person. Not a clock watcher. Always wants to make your visit an enjoyable one. I definitely will meet her again.

Yet you refuse to follow rules see your own first post. I bet this is not your first handle here champion just saying. I got that thingelylily up my butt telling me you were somebody else on this board.. That feeling isnt a feature in my ass "I bet I've paid for sex more than most guys here :)."...lol yet You dont Want To follow any rules..you go boy like you really did paid more than anyone on this board...your silly or had to much to drink as big spender don't demonstrate they acted....they do t need to brag o. How much.

A welcome addition to this thread.... The one and only Robynxoxo at Angels!! Sweet little spinner and now Nuru oh my, could it get any better??

Personally I dont think discussing hotels in the public section is good for your safety or any of our who tour to those cities (There are FEW good options to stay at as it is). This is not something that should be discussed in public for any of our well beings and safety. If someone says stay at the super 8 for example and you do, what are the chances that some nut bar may be waiting for you in the lobby (as someone who had clients watch her check in, you dont want this)

Mighty Pen's words speak truth. There are times a provider hasn't prepared for the appointment by keeping track of requests. That would require keeping records and that is something quite discouraged by hobbyists. I don't provide a menu or promise a single service when I book my appointments for this reason. If a guest has a check list of activities that must take place during the playdate, I'm not the provider for him and I'm clear about this upfront. If a guest let's me run the session the way my intuition tells me he will leave smiling and completely satisfied. Walk thru my door with specific services demanded and you will be shown the door but I don't keep the envelop. I think it's dirty money at that point and brings no good to my life from a karmic level. A good provider trusts her instincts and if her spidey sense is tingling, the agreed upon services are at her discretion. She needs to be honest about why she won't provide the agreed upon services if she wants to make the appointment work. Won't kiss? Probably a hygiene issue at hand. No shower? She has probably booked appointments after you that weren't on the books when you set up your appointment and won't have time to redo her hair after you leave; or she feels it's a bad judgement call from a safety perspective. There are a 100 reasons the menu will change. Has the contract been broken? Yes. Is she required to give you a refund of some sort? No but if she's smart she will make it right. It's good business to be honest and keep clients happy. This business is only viable if you can build repeat business and violating the agreement doesn't accomplish that... cat

Whoa. There's too many other reasons why some request might go unfulfilled for this to be the first or most "likely" reason. It's not that this never happens; but let's not jump there as a first reflex. But otherwise I agree with your points.

The first thing to do is communicate well during the appointment. Maybe she's forgotten some of your favourite details. No problem; bring up the topic of the missing bits with a smile and a laugh, and guide her and the session on the course you had discussed. If you haven't established friendly, positive back-and-forth communication with your provider, then that's your first problem right there. Then again maybe there's some reason why, now that the moment is upon you both, she doesn't really feel comfortable following through. Again, communication during the session is key. Raise the subject in a friendly way to make sure she hasn't forgotten, and if she's not comfortable with X, work together to find another way to have fun that works for both of you. But ultimately, if all of your discussions to resolve the problem fail, then you need to remember that the contract between the client and provider is solely for time spent together in which things will probably happen, but there's never a guarantee. She's a human being, not a vending machine; your money gives you no claim over her body. So all of those details you discussed are requests, but there's never an ironclad guarantee they'll be fulfilled. If you ultimately aren't satisfied with a session, and your conversation with the provider hasn't resolved that to your satisfaction, then just don't go back. Chasing after your money with "but you didn't do X! Give me Y dollars back!" is crass and fruitless. And, last of all: don't compare sex work to other industries. The comparison is always misleading when it comes to these types of up-close human interactions. Your SP is not your mechanic.

1st event for me, Thanks MisterT, Sput, Skater, well done and all the Beautiful Ladies, should do this once a month

The $100 tip, plus door fee is comparable to what most independent MA's or an all inclusive spa charge for a complete massage experience. I suggest clearing the financials up right away with your MA, just like you would with an independent or agency before you start the session. That way you just relax and enjoy without the worry. The attendant appreciates this as well so she knows she's being compensated fairly and everyone is happy. Independent MA's and all inclusive spa's apply part of the fee's collected to keeping the business maintained, so a door fee is really no different. It's just an extra transaction.

I've been reading the books since the first one came out and quite enjoy them, but in some ways like the television series more. I found the last couple books could have benefited from a lot of editing, and in some ways it's become more sprawling than epic. The television show almost forces them to focus the story, and so the pacing is better. I've always been generally OK when movies/tv changes book material though. They are different mediums and I don't judge them on how closely they match.

An interesting and easy to understand article explaining what could be next after the laws are struck down and what sex workers want and need in a post-decrim Canada: http://rabble.ca/columnists/2013/04/sex-workers-are-coming