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I understand that you want to find clients who can pay your rate regularly without complaining about the expense. That is the benefit of "upscale" clients. But what makes this job actually fulfilling and enjoyable are the clients that you click with. They can come from any walk of life. Whether they save up for a couple of months to see you, or throw away a few hundred dollars like a used facial tissue, you will derive your happiness from how they treat you. If you get enough HAPPY clients, your business will do well. Whether they are technically upscale or not. The advice to market yourself as best you can and to screen for clients that will click with you is the best advice you can get. Don't worry at all about upscale. Good clients are good clients. Leave their budgeting up to them. :) If they can pay your rate they are upscale enough for you.

I will be organizing the next Ottawa social for both male and female CERB members in good standing on Thursday, February 7, 2013 in Ottawa. Since this is being organized by CERB members for other CERB members, please do not bother the MOD about this event. It will be held a centrally located venue in Ottawa. It will be in a reserved room of a public bar/restaurant. It will run from approximately 6:30 p.m. until closing time. There will be a variety of music played and dancing will be encouraged. There will be a limit of 60 spots available (ideally 30 gents/30 ladies), on a first-come, first-served basis to those members in good standing who have some presence on the board or in the hobby (if you have a low post count, but good rep, that's all we care about). There will be a cost for gents to attend and tickets will be available starting now. You will be able to pay by e-mail money transfer, postal money order or cash (in person). The price of the tickets will be $40. This is to cover drinks for the ladies, appetizers, door prizes and other expenses associated with organizing these events. There will be no cost to the ladies to attend, however you will have to confirm 3 days before the event that still intend on coming due to the fact we always sell out and end up with a waiting list. If you didn't get a chance last time, you will be given first priority. I am looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones. This is a meet and greet social event in a public venue (no hanky panky :smile:) and as with past events, expect all attendees to behave accordingly. Remember, CERB members from all across Canada (and elsewhere) are welcome to attend. If you think you might like to join us, feel free to pm and let me know. Angela of Ottawa Your humble social organizer.

If you're interested in an ongoing, contractual or retainer-type relationship, I think you've come to the right place. What you can expect from the arrangement will, frankly, depend on what you can afford to pay. Most of us are doing what we do in order to make a living. Some work part-time because their other line of work doesn't bring in enough income. It's rare to find someone who is really only working to pay for occasional luxuries. Please recognize that sexual monogamy is likely to be very expensive. Asking the woman to give up having an intimate, emotionally-engaged relationship with someone else is a big demand to make on a woman in her 20s. Since you're only wanting something that might last a year or two, presumably because you either don't want a permanent relationship or because you already have one and just want to supplement your needs and interests, the woman you find would still be giving up a disproportionate amount of time and opportunity in her own life. However, this might be acceptable to someone who's in grad school, for example, and determined to focus mostly on her studies or writing her dissertation. If you're imagining that someone who isn't already a paid companion is more likely to be infection-free, please do your homework. The notion that prostitutes who don't work on the streets are a source of disease is not only a blatant stereotype, it's simply false. You are far more likely to contract an infection from a sweet college girl who's only had a couple of boyfriends or from a lovely lady you've met in a bar or on a dating site than you would from one of us. That's because we know that every man, regardless of age, ethnicity or financial profile, whether he's a client or a genuine boyfriend, is a potential source of infection. We take steps to safeguard our health accordingly. In the end, the only person's health care anyone is responsible for is their own. Consider carefully exactly what kind of financial investment you're able to make. Can you, for example, pay for someone's rent? Or are you thinking more along the lines of her university tuition, per term (which would usually be somewhat less than rent)? Are you able to cover all of her living expenses, which would be about two to two and a half times her monthly rent? Or are you simply wanting to be sure that you have first-call on her time for a couple of hours every Tuesday but want to get a discount on her hourly rate? Any of these arrangements could work out well. Just make sure each of you is very clear about what to expect. How do you plan to pay your sugar baby? Cash is king, but you may prefer to arrange for regular electronic bank transfers. Some people provide reloadable credit cards. Arranging for an auto lease is not uncommon. Whatever plan you come up with, how do you expect to safeguard things on your side? Do you have a completely private bank account, for example, with no risk of anyone else knowing about your deposits and withdrawals? What I'm trying to say is: if you have a wife or partner, how will you ensure that she doesn't find out what you're doing? I ask because I'm dedicated to ensuring that women in this industry are safe; I can't encourage you to put someone's security at risk because you overlooked the possibility of being discovered by your intimate partner, employer or secretary. Think about the kind of woman you want to be with. I understand that you're interested in someone who's young and beautiful. That's not a problem. But surely you want someone you can actually enjoy, as a person. Someone with whom you may have interests in common. Someone for whom you can actually care, and who will also develop real affection and regard for you would be ideal because you both need a significant level of trust if this arrangement is going to work out well. However, if you want a situation in which there will be little to no emotional involvement, you may be better off with a roster of companions, seeing one on the first Wednesday of the month, another on the second Wednesday, and so on. Do know that we can become quite fond of monthly regulars, though. I have a couple of those whom I've seen for several years and for whom I care a great deal. Please also consider how long you want the arrangement to last and how either of you will end it. You might enter into something that's intended to last for six months, an academic year or a full calendar year, for example. Or you might want to keep things more open and simply guarantee that you will give at least one or two months' notice before ending your financial commitment so that your companion has a reasonable opportunity to make other arrangements. I hope you will be more relaxed about what you would require of her if or when she decides that the arrangement needs to change or come to an end. I think I can safely say that the great majority of women on this board are interested in quality engagements with kind, respectful and caring men who value us as individuals. The number of paid companions who genuinely want to see 10-15 or more clients per week is miniscule. We all value returning clients and those of us who have a number of ongoing, regular clients consider ourselves to be blessed. Sugar daddy arrangements and Mistress-type relationships can work very well if they're undertaken thoughtfully. I hope you find what you're looking for.

ummmm....that's nice ;) While I understand your preference, I dont really see the point in indicating so???? This thread is about bbw's, dont like em, no problem :) I just dont see the point of indicating so, it would be the same as posting a spinner thread-and a bbw lover indicated they were not his type...fine and dandy-but I would expect the bbw lover to keep it to himself. Since the thread is not a debate of whether we are attractive or not, and is more about who is attracted to us and who can recommend us-I just did not see the point of that ;)

Oh my!!! If our answers offend you.............. Then for your own safety please reconsider your choice to become an "upscale woman" in the sex trade. Not a single statement was directed to be cruel. You asked a question, and it was answered truthfully. This is not a community of street walkers and drug addicts hun. Welcome to a connected network of the best of the best!! We are more then willing to be supportive of a long time member or a new comer to the industry. This is not a "game" and "thank you for playing" may get you killed if you ever decide to take in calls. Many of us here choose this work and enjoy it. Plz do not ask us for help and then spit in our kindness. If you wanted to find that "pretty woman" story, well, it's the genuine joy of being with that person that makes that fairy tale even possible. "Upscale" this and "upscale" that will not get you anywhere close to what your looking for. I appreciate that you find the work we do appealing. Here's a taste of my work day. - 2-4 hrs of web design (editing pictures, writing code, creating text docs for advertisements) - 3hrs sporadically throughout the day answering e-mails and returning phone calls for bookings on advance dates - actual bookings So after 5-7hrs of unpaid work marketing, I am hoping that the bookings I do make are fun, exciting, safe, and profitable. Sorry if I am coming off strong, but I agree......... .........A good client is one you can't wait to see again, someone who understands that it is passion for pay, and someone who contacted you because they respect themselves and they want a lady who can do the same. The real high class is valued in love and kindness, not money and position.

Thank you so much for posting this documentary, Shawn! I'm quite certain I've seen it before, but at the time I wasn't an escort and it was really nice to watch it again not only with my experiences as an escort, but also my experience as an escort with clients who have (dis)abilities. At 13:42, when the client being interviewed mentions that "tonight is very important" and he has the most wonderful smile on his face I couldn't help but tear up... Sex and disability is something most people don't think about seriously. In fact, it's often brushed off as something 'impossible' and/or 'unknowable'. People with visibile/invisible (dis)abilities are often believed to be 'asexual' and not in need of love and intimacy. This is especially the case with people who have invisible disabilities (autism, down syndrome, etc)... If people with (dis)abilities are sexual, it is considered perverse, wrong, 'abnormal'... it's really sad. I love when one of the women in the documentary states that "everyone has a right to sexual expression, including those with (dis)abilities". Very true! When I screen new patrons I almost always ask whether they have any mobility issues I should know about, and/or other (dis)abilities I should be aware of. If there are, I often research the best way to ensure we both have a good time. A book that has been really helpful for me is called "The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability" by Miriam Kaufman, Cory Silverberg, and Fran Odette. It was referred to me by my friend, Tgirl-Kay. It's really good and I would encourage anyone interested in having pleasurable sex with someone with a visible and/or invisible (dis)ability to read it!

Although not from Thunder Bay, I want to ask a question...what is upscale clientele? To me, a guy who is a gentleman, treats you with respect and courtesy, good hygiene, pays your donation in full (plus possibly a tip and gift ;-) ), well isn't that what is important? Whether he is blue collar, working the assembly line at GM, or a partner in a Bay Street law firm, it would seem to me being a gentleman is the quality a lady would like in her clients Anyhow, just wondering exactly what is an upscale clientele. RG

I only use email to book and I find it very effective in sorting out and evaluating clients. I'm very upfront about the type of client I'm seeking and have worked exceedingly hard to ensure my advertising and emails appeal directly my target market. There is an email exchange between us that gives me what I need to screen and it seldom fails me. I have an extremely low no show rate and seldom get time wasters. There are a couple of guests that have my cell and will book via text now but they never call unless it is prearranged. Here's why... When I first started in Canada I had spent years using the phone as my medium of contact but I have a slight hearing impairment. Even with custom ear sets I have difficulty hearing on a phone if there is any background noise on either end and given the delicate nuances of this industry, I would sometimes have heard the address wrong or misunderstood a conversation which would put me or my guest in a situation where I had to think quickly on my feet in order to ensure we were both happy with the outcome of the appointment. If I can see your lips moving then I can understand you, if I can't then there is always a chance I've missed something. In my personal life, I text like mad but I know if I published a phone number and said "Text Only" it would be ignored by some and I am a woman that must answer a ringing phone. To ensure this doesn't happen I have designed my business model to support what I need which is clear, concise communication before a playdate. I realize that it eliminates some excellent clients who will only contact via phone or text but I accept that. It's all about figuring out what works for me so I can provide the level of service I strive for... cat

I though it would be neat to see some of the good things out there. Just a reminder that there are good people around you even if u don't thinks. So hurry people share your good deed that someone's done to you or that you've done. Let show that the world is full of nice kind people. So the other day I was feeling kinda down (suffer from depression) and somebody I just met was able to take the time listen to my problems without prejudice or judgement. All I wanted to do was get it out and she listen like a true friend without benefitting at all from it. I won't name any names but she knows who she is so thanks. So she did her good deed. Anybody else have some to share!

What this woman does for her clients and what she brings to their lives is very special. I think this is a beautiful showcase of the good sex workers do in the world. The Scarlet Road highlights a sex worker in Australia who specializes in a much overlooked demographic. Maybe this is old news or a re-post but I just came across it via reddit and I knew that the wonderful people of Cerb would (if they haven't already) appreciate it. Enjoy!

This bra ;)

Although you do have a lot of valid ideas there.. being a sugar daddy doesn't mean the sugar baby will be all yours. In that case: - one is the comfort you get knowing that the other person would be available whenever you need (when you need is very board. I think its still an arrangement of time agreeable on both part.) Very doable with an SP. - you are less worried about stds and other aspects of SP business like bait and switch (you do not necessarily control her sex life outside the time you spent together. This means the risk of STD is just the same ... or more, given that reputable SP would check themselves more for such a thing - I might be naïve there.). - dangerous encounters (I do agree on the less dangerous encounter -- but if you are repeating with a lady you met before and clicked with. There is no risk there) Additional Comments: on the other note... I remember seeing a lot of Buzz around this website after the book... 50 Shades of Grey. :: http://www.seekingarrangement.com/ Have fun ;-)

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One of my favorite playdates is where I order in food afterwards, sit on the couch with my guest and overindulge in good food and drink. It is just the perfect way to end an afternoon of debauchery... cat

Orofactory stimulation is as unique as our fetishes. Our bodies metabolize food in a very individual way and our brains process scent with precision according to instinct and memory. No two people have the same scent preference profile. I like natural human scent. For me the no no's are asparagus and curry! Asparagus hits my urinary track within 30 minutes of eating and smells like antibiotics. I find curry comes out thru my pores for days. It's a shame as I love both. Some people can eat anything and it never presents a problem, others will present the side effects of their diet for extended periods of time. I know someone being freshly groomed is all that is necessary for me to enjoy them. If eliminating something from their diet makes my guest relax a little more then it's a good thing for them but I believe following the K.I.S.S. is the key to being happy in life... cat

I don't recall anyone ever asking me this? And not all winnipeg ladies charge same for multiple hours as our hour rate. Perhaps you should not lump us all in a group stating none of us do this, I have posted a discounted rate for 2 hours in all my ads for many months. Anything over 2 hour I would need to consider after feeling out a gentlemen.

Good Dog!!!! hahahaha

Just a thought, you might get more specific answers if you posted this question in the SP only area. :icon_wink: Beyond that, check out the websites of local independent MA's with all inclusive prices. That will give you a general sense of the local "going rates". There are also the Spa's websites, most list the basic door fees. ("the door fee does not include gratuities") Kim

I've primarily made contact and booked via email and or text. I've only been asked to call once prior to a meeting. It might be the way I word things but it's never been an issue for me. If someone doesn't state no emails or texts then I send one or another and if someone doesn't state no emails or texts and then doesn't respond to either I move along. I figure there's no sense in making a call after that. Peace MG

Dear BunnyFuFu, I don't think there was a set-up from the very first question, other than some objected to the word > Upscale < I have no issues with words that describe a lady or in the fact a gentleman. Personally, it is within how you conduct yourself face to face with that individual (s) and your rapport with others gets notice and your name is than often highly spoken about. Getting to that "upscale" status is exactly just that, " a status " I think earlier as Angela pointed out the term is kind of over used by some, where others I tend to believe have earned their status of an "Elite companion" "Upscale Companion"........ It simply just does not happen over night. I wish you all the luck in your "filthy rich" dreams ahead, may it be Short and sweet or a long adventure.

Huh. I have to admit, I eat broccoli, garlic, onions, beans, and coffee, on a daily basis. Never seemed to have an issue, but I've eaten that stuff daily for so many years I think my system is just used to it. Honestly I've never thought about avoiding any food, now I"m wondering if I should!

Too old? I'm over 50 and still working it! There is a market for age group - you just have to find your niche. Don't worry so much about attracting "upscale" clientele as you much as attracting good and reliable clients who are courteous and respectful. When asked what you meant by that, you replied "uber rich, lol". Well I'm not joking when I say that those clients do exist, but are far and few between. Even with humble clients, you still have to build up a reputation and have some experience behind you. The advice I would give you is as long as someone is willing to accept you, honour your boundaries and pay your fee with out trying to bargain you down, then you will have hit the jackpot. A loyal and good client is what I strive for. This is in no way a criticism of anyone who uses the term in their advertising, but in my humble opinion, I believe the word "upscale" is often misused and overused.

Had chance to meet Emily (When she worked for PK). She is a sweetheart had a real nice time we chatted for abit Emily crawled up the bed and began to disrobe then leaned in for some DFK I won't go into to much but one of the best times I have had in a long time Will repeat as often as possible Thanks Emily

There are several benefits in Sugardaddy kind of arrangements than plain SP meeting, one is the comfort you get knowing that the other person would be available whenever you need, the level of trust goes higher too when you know someone on a long term basis, also you are less worried about stds and other aspects of SP business like bait and switch and dangerous encounters. Plus it's like a friendship with benefits where everybody gets what he/she wants without Strings Attached. On the economic side of it, it's usually less expensive comparing to have 4 or 5 hours appointment from a successful SP.

This is a question for both the boys and girls. Saw something like this somewhere else. What food or drink do you avoid before having a date. Certain foods can make you gassy and affect the level of BO, your breath and the way you taste. What do you avoid so that you're at your best for your partner. Just as a starter, I don't drink coffee before a date as I think it's not the greatest if you want to engage in kissing kissing

An interesting question! When I arrived in Canada, I had worn stockings every day I worked for the length of my career. After 6 months here I stopped because my clients didn't seem to notice or care and the investment is enormous. I was spending about $50/week on them and it had no return it seemed so why invest over $2000 a year on it? I still have a drawer full of them and happily accomodate a guest that requests I wear stocking but I don't wear them on a daily basis. If my guests gave me any indication that they like stockings then I wear them every time we play. I did have a guest who loved them and he would bring me a gift card to the hosiery store on a regular basis. He never left a pair intact that could be reworn so it was a good thing he was aware of the costs involved and offset it by the gift card. That kind of consideration goes a long way to ensuring your provider is willing to accomodate special requests. Back in the day I paid for the clothing, toy and special requests out of my own pocket and it ran approx $1200-1500/month. I have a fairly extensive collection of everything now but if someone has a specific request I recommend they bring it with them or advance funds via E.M.T. and I will shop for their request before the playdate. Sometimes I have invested days (literally 20 or more hours) searching for something very specific and that time is not compensated for so bringing your fancy with you is very much appreciated. Perhaps a visit to your local hosiery store is in order. You can pick out the color you like in a size C which should be wearable for just about everyone and take it with you. Your provider will accomodate and put them on with a smile I'm sure... cat

I love wearing heels. Stockings it's not something that do a lot for me, but I have absolutely no problem with it. I have really muscular legs so sadly nylons aren't make for my body that much and they give me the impression I have chubby legs As you told in your post earlier...you migrated towards the pictures of ladies wearing stocking...because it sell well. If someone ask me the particular request of wearing stockings I will do it, but it,s not something I will do on my own whim. The reason being that these things are really expensive and each time I wear some with a client I get a run in them and well they are useless now. So each time I wear some I am investing x amount of $ in them...and these things are expensive sometime at the end of the day!

IMO where i am located i am not bothered at all. i do not currently have an in call location, but have for many years in the past. I've never had an issure with LE. actually they have been welcome to my incall locations and have taken the open invitation with much respect to what i do. they have never harrassed my clients and i have never had a complaint from others in the area as well. I guess the two most important factors to weigh in on when it come to the risk of an in call are: (1) is the girl you are going to meet seem like a level headed proffestional with a mind on her surroundings? (2) What is the areas attitude towards the service of incalls? most areas are primarly concerned with the effects on the community then what you do in your own place.

You want to see Buffy Lee of Massage 21! See gives an amazing massage (with a good ending, too)

No one is attacking you bunny When we answer we do so strictly in facts, the black and white. When a "lady" comes on the boards asking for help most of us are happy to give insight to whatever matters or issues need to be discussed. If you think for a moment that any of us ment you any wrong doing, then your wrong. Asking serious questions and then being offended for being offensive is ridiculous. A person with a "good heart in the right place" would recognize this. I do believe that ur interest is genuine, and that you are a wide picture thinker. I am happy u found a few dates and I hope that they are not only safe but fun. But plz remember that even with my 11yrs experience I to sometimes can't always pick out the bad apples. Actually the most dangerous man I ever saw was sweet as pie for over 4months of seeing me regularly before he tried to slice me open with a knife from behind during the act. We were not firm in our answers to be rude, I know that I just want to be clear. I see you have many interests. I'm sure you will find something that will make u happy and fulfilled. Oh and negative comment are not permitted on CERB hun, positive only. I'm sure if we were cruel to you that the MOD would have spanked us by now :) lol Plz take a look at newbie and legal sections here on cerb. It's all important reading if you want a taste of what your getting into. And I think I can say with some confidence that all of us here wish you luck, life, happiness............ And heck ya, lots of $$$ to do good things with. It's awesome to hear that it is a major intention of urs. Speaks volumes :) <3

From reading this thread I learned all of the girls are great at what they do!

After last visit with SweetShay on Friday, I was offered another lunch time session today. How could I resist. I made a special request to have the yellow outfit that she has in her outfit, You know the one that I mean guys :) if you've seen her album, and also to have her hair, just like her album picture. I arrived at her door, and when I entered into the room, she stepped from behind the door, dressed as requested. She was so beautiful and sexy today, she looks great in sexy outfits. She usually welcomes me naked, but I prefer to see her in something sexy, so that I can unwrapped her :). She had a great big smile on her face and sparkle in her eye's, She was a ball of energy today, After hugs and kisses, we sat down shared some wine and talked and laughed a lot. We were having such a good time that we almost forgot to play. Then we decided it was time, and I got to explore her sexy tanned body first. This session she kissed a lot and giggled a lot, she's ticklish :). Today she was in a playful mood, a lot of fun to be with, multiple positions and plenty of oral. She's not a clock watcher, we went overtime because we had so much fun chatting. She really is a must see girl. so happy and peppy, she enjoys a good conversation and want's to make sure you enjoy yourselves. We've seen each other so much, that I guess we are just comfortable with each other now and can share stories about our lives and experiences and just laugh a lot and have a good time. If you get a chance to see her, you won't regret it. Already looking for her next visit to Ottawa. Can't wait :)

You know I think I kept checking this thread just hoping that Mod would come on and post: Because we all know the moral of this story is Hare today Goon tomorrow. ;) I'm editing to add that I assume everyone knows "Bunny Fufu" but if not perhaps you should google it.

I've been reading this and was unsure whether to post or not as I really know nothing about the Thunder Bay market or area so I don't have much of value to add for your situation, still perhaps a 'young gal' like me might be able to offer a little information and I hope you don't mind my butting in. ;) Personally I like your sarcasm, it suits me. I'm a tad on the sarcastic side too so I wouldn't worry too much about that but not everyone will get it and you have to remember that when you do put out sarcasm without the "sarcasm font" (I swear the internet needs one) then about 50% of the people reading will respond without realising you were being sarcastic and you just have to go with that, you take your lumps if you will. It's kind of like a comedian being offended when the audience doesn't get her jokes. Anyway as for the rest of it, some people will say that upscale is overused and others will say to use it. My thoughts are if you are using it to define yourself, if you are saying "I am upscale" then you need to either be sure you have some sort of reasoning for that or something to back up the claim otherwise it just seems a hollow statement. Many people use hollow statements in marketing but why bother, it does no one any good and it generally detracts from your brand instead of adding value. Alternatively you can use specific terms to define your market, one such being "upscale" then you'll know if it connects to your ideal clientele or not quite simply by who sees you and if they repeat. If the people that come to see you are the men (or women) that you wish to see and feel a genuine connection to then you are doing something right in your marketing and keep it up. If however your clients are people you are feeling rather alienated from, not the type of clients you enjoy seeing then you need to re-evaluate your marketing. If you see clients once and not again then perhaps you are not representing yourself accurately or not targeting yourself to the right market. It's a bit of a hit or miss but there is no problem with defining your clientele as "upscale" many men see themselves as that no matter what their standing in life is and then there are many men that are in high social status that do not see themselves as "upscale". The trick is to not make that the only defining factor but to continue to refine who "that man", your client is. Then when you have that defined tell him who you are and why he'd want to spend time with you. At 50 you have a lot to offer, a lot that some of us youngins' don't have. (LOL I'm in my 30's which in this industry still makes me "mature" by a lot of the guys standards, talk about a blow to the ego!) All the best whatever you decide to do!

Looking at it from my simple country hic way of looking at things If a lady puts her number out there saying text or call then I text. Whether I want to meet you tomorrow or a year from now. I text. If that goes A okay and you want to hear my voice then that is A Okay too ! If you say "No Texts Please" then I don't !! If a phone call first contact is requested ... then that is the way it is !! Respect that guys. You won't hear from me however because I personally don't do that on first contact. It is a matter of respecting the SP's advertised wishes and preferences and making decisions accordingly. IMO It is also a matter of the SP's understanding the hobbyists situations in life as well. Us fella's come from all walks of life and what works for one may absolutely not work for another. So if Franchesca Sexypants likes doing business via text and perhaps PM and advertises as such..... then they will attract the fellas that this method falls into their comfort zone..... Me now as example ;) If Veronica VaVaVoom prefers "email only" first contact ....then they will attract guys that this method falls into their comfort zone If Betty Boobs prefers "phone call only" first contact....then they will attract gents that this method falls into their comfort zone For me personally, there has been a time of tremendous evolution over the last year or so particularly. I do things completely different now than when I first started this awesome happy phase in my life. At the end of the day however.... Mutual respect and more so "understanding" of everyone involved is key here. Cheers !! :chug::hump::boobeyes::aol_missionary::69::butt: :chug:

No one is "too old" for sex work, hence marketing is very important. There are clients that want a girl from 18-25 because they are looking for young, spunky or sweet (or someone young with no sex work experience hoping they can get away with being sleazy) A mature lady as yourself could market herself as a "perfect companion". A treat for the business man visiting town wanting to do the evening date, willing to do dinner and a play with a hot passionate good-bye at the end of your evening. Again........you are your own company/business, and marketing is key. Find what it is that you best offer for services and cater to that in your advertisements. And most important........... No one is too old for sex work!!!!! Lol <3

Welcome to Cerb. All I shall say to your post is that in my experience the photos that are posted on Cerb are indeed accurate. The board is run in such a way that should that not be the case then the member in question would not be a member for long. I also suppose that I hesitate when I read your statement about pictures not always telling the truth. Probably I would agree in the sense that the women almost always are better looking in person than what they portray in their albums. I trust our Cerb ladies and if you read the reccos and for a first encounter stay with a reputable woman then I can virtually guarantee that you will be a very happy man.

Time and marketing are the answers. If your a new lady and you want to start at the top your gonna need an experienced agent or a miracle. As an independent with no contacts coming into the field your gonna want to take every call you can that is safe. See you don't get to choose who you see. You screen through who contacts you. If a client sends red flags your way then you don't see him. Besides that this is the job we do. Ugly as sin or brad pitt, as long as he/she is polite and clean and what you not willing to do is respected, then a call is a call and everyone deserves a lil fun....... That why they call us :) Our job is to be the playthings and fantasies for men and women. The GFE, the PSE, the fetish, candle light dinners, the public date, and the more often then not "I just wanna fuck you and go"........... This is our job, to play these roles. Personally I have a closed list of clients that can msg me anytime they want that are tres bon. Mind you I've been in this city slightly over 10 years and have marketed myself to be a "rare treat" for availability these last few years after the many it took me to get to this place. I don't do as many calls as I did 10 years ago, but I do make just as much and have time for a full life outside of sex work. Market yourself towards those that you would like to seek you out. my advice is to market yourself as well as you can. If not then find an agent with experience in the area. And be sure they can show you credentials, asking for a T4 from the company for tax purposes is the best way to go. Only licensed agents can do this. There are lots of places in town that are just a # in the local paper taking 1/2 of ur pay illegally.

Miss Mya, Why not just go in and ask? It can't hurt, you are beautiful... cat

To everyone here. Over the past weeks I've posted about my dad's cancer. I have received in many PM's, comments, posts etc words of sympathy and support. I just wanted to say thank you all for your support. It really is appreciated This board is much more than an escort board, it truly is a community Again to all of you out in CERBLand, your collective support is appreciated more than you know Thank you RG

I don't usually blurt out my kinky request in the first introductory email because some women are quite against going into detail before they get to know you a little. Some kinks can be a little dangerous if you don't know what you are doing, and they can be really dangerous if your partner doesn't know what she is doing. Bruises, scars, internal injuries and infections can happen very easily and quickly, to both of you. You may have built up some expectations in your mind which would be unrealistic to fulfil, especially of you haven't done it before. So for your first time you may want to choose a partner who already has experience with your fantasies and who can guide you safely and enjoyably through the reality. It's a journey; having it all doesn't mean having it all the first time. Many of the women who post frequently on cerb have tons of experience with requests from men to fulfil their fantasies; I would trust their advice. Pick a lady who advertises as fetish friendly or even who offers bdsm services, and start a dialogue with her to see if she is interested and willing to work with you. It's a small community so even if a woman you contact can't help you directly, she may be able to refer you to another who can. I have found several of the women on cerb to be very helpful!

Frankly, while I believe that people should feel free to ask questions and say what's on their mind, I do feel a bit nervous whenever we venture into ways to deal with or protect against stereotypes. The one about companions being likely to rob clients or compromise their personal security if we know real names and other information is particularly difficult. Seeing a reputable, established companion increases the likelihood that everything will go smoothly. You won't need to worry that she'll rifle through your wallet or cell phone when you're in the bathroom or that she'll call your wife half an hour after your meeting ends. Honestly, if someone were to make a post on a couple of boards, saying that a lady had stolen something or had outed him to his partner or employer, she would be finished in this business! A good reputation and longevity in our profession require being trustworthy. One of the things you're paying for is complete confidentiality. Please also recognize that, while you may be concerned about having your identity and personal life compromised, most of us are concerned about our safety and security, too. I see clients in my home. I feel safest here, but it also means that my visitors have a great deal of information about me before we lay eyes on each other. I screen clients because of the real possibility that someone might hurt or rob me though I know that most have no interest in doing anything like that. In the end, it comes down to trust on both sides. I won't see you if, for any reason, I feel that I may not be safe enough with you. I don't want you to meet me if you're worried that I might do something to harm you, either.

If there's someone who interests you but doesn't seem to offer the things you're looking for, consider asking anyway. There are many reasons for not advertising some activities, including creating a perception that the we only engage in kinky play, that we're happy to do something frequently or several times a day or a week, or that those activities are always available without making arrangements ahead of time. You should always feel free to change your mind once things get underway, too. Don't feel that, because you'd expected to do something, you're required to do it! Needs and desires shift and change depending on comfort level, mood and other things. Changing your mind the first time doesn't mean you shouldn't try again another time. However, if your companion has agreed to do something, or that she'll try to do it, she should be willing to fulfill the agreement. If she's not able to accommodate your request for some reason--perhaps she was spanked yesterday and is worried that any more of that today will cause bruising, for example--she should let you know before the meeting begins.

The replies so far do a bang-up job of answering your question. I'll just reiterate that: - pursuing special interests is extremely common - you should briefly explain your interest during your initial inquiry; and - worst case, she'll say "no, sorry, I don't do that" but she won't judge. When describing your interest give enough information to let her know clearly what you're after, but not so much that you're writing amateur porn. ;) Something like: "Hi! My name is [name], I'm [gender] and [age]. I saw your ad on CERB and I'm considering making an appointment with you soon. I have a real fetish for X, and during our session I'd like to try doing Y and Z involving X. Is that possible? If so, an appointment lasting [duration] on [date] from #:00 to #:00 would work well for me. I hope we can meet, and I look forward to hearing back from you." If her answer is "yes" you can always provide some more detail about X, Y, and Z in a follow-up before finalizing the appointment. She may even have some suggestions to add, or questions of her own. Then you're off to the races. Good luck and have lots and lots of fun!

The best time to ask is before you book. I wouldn't worry about being judged. We've all been asked for many things some may consider odd - and sometimes we'll say yes, sometimes we'll say no. But even if I say no, I won't judge you. I'm sure I like things other people might not. To each their own. But the last thing anyone wants is for you to book, THEN say 'Oh I want such-and-such service'. Because then if she doesn't want to provide it, you may not want to cancel because you'll feel bad, etc etc, and then the session won't go well for anyone. The absolute worst time to ask is once the session has begun. Declining a clients request during a session makes me feel terrible, and like he's not going to leave the session happy. And all I want is for my clients to leave happy...so if there's something you need to be happy, let her know upfront, so no one leaves disappointed! Additional Comments: The best time to ask is before you book. I wouldn't worry about being judged. We've all been asked for many things some may consider odd - and sometimes we'll say yes, sometimes we'll say no. But the last thing anyone wants is for you to book, THEN say 'Oh I want such-and-such service'. Because then if she doesn't want to provide it, you may not want to cancel because you'll feel bad, etc etc, and then the session won't go well for anyone. The absolute worst time to ask is once the session has begun. Declining a clients request during a session makes me feel terrible, and like he's not going to leave the session happy. And all I want is for my clients to leave happy...so if there's something you need to be happy, let her know upfront, so no one leaves disappointed!

The great thing about e-mail is that it offers a pretty neutral territory way to raise these issues. I would not call someone up, ask if they are available this afternoon, and the go on and ask for service that might not be typical. e-mail the woman you're interested in. Tell her you're interested in meeting her, would like to discuss possible times in the future, and that you have some particular interests. Then the discussion can proceed. Sometimes ladies like to know a customer a bit before being willing to explore some types of fetishes. It really just depends on what it is and how unusual it might be. But don't worry ... as I've said in another thread, they won't be shocked. Porthos

First up - welcome to the board! I can't imagine you'll get SPs thinking you're a complete freak. I'm sure most of them have heard pretty much everything already, so unless your tastes are really Way Out There you're probably not going to be the first person she's had asking for whatever it is. The most negative reaction you're going to get is probably something along the lines of, "Sorry, I don't offer that service." Do what research you can. Have a look at the ads in your locality and see if anyone's advertizing what you're after, or possibly advertizing similar things. If you feel brave, you could put a post in your city's SP discussion section saying what you're after, and inviting ladies that provide this to contact you. You may get lucky. You could also hop over to the search page and see if anyone's asked about your preferences in the past - it's quite possible that they have. As for when to discuss it with a SP... I'd have thought that early on is probably best. Assuming that you're polite about it, just be up front about what you're looking for so that if she doesn't offer it, she can just say so and neither you nor she wastes any further time. One thing you should NOT do is to book a meeting without mentioning what you want, and then spring it on her the day before (or worse, when you actually get there) - you'll probably piss her off and if you cancel at the last second you'll really piss her off. Finally, remember that we're generally a friendly and non-judgmental bunch here; provided whatever's happening involves only consenting adults, nobody will think any the less of you for it. Hope that helps. And good luck!

Hello All, So.. after 2 and a half years in massage, I have decided to retire.. I really enjoyed and had fun with all my clients :-) Its time for me to TRY something different now.. So the end of Feb ill be leaving the business. Just giving everyone a heads up :-p Anyways This week I'll be working Mon and Tues 3-9 and Thurs and Fri 9-4. XoXo J

I have not been on very much of late and it seems as if there have been intermittent server issues. The intermittent things are the most difficult to find and fix! I have never written this before but have said it to a number of people. This site is pretty amazing and is very sophisticated in the way that it functions. It is user friendly, easy to navigate, and thanks to Mod is responsive to suggestions from our community of members. To the Mod, a good luck with the server issues and a huge thanks for the work that you do on our behalf, clients and SP's alike.

Merry christmas (and happy holidays to our "non christmas" celebrating members) and happy new years. We survived 20121221 as i suspected we would but then again the server did die on us! Lets hope that was the last of the 2012 problems! Hope you all have a safe and fun holiday. Very best wishes to all.... I think this was the best year with cerb for me and i owe that to the council members, the other moderator and all the great members.