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Gentlemen, please.... Most men who consider themselves to be too small simply are not! Honest. You can trust me on this one: I'm sure I've seen, handled and otherwise engaged with far more penises of various dimensions than you have. :biggrin: Let's think about this, for a minute or two. Most women's vaginas are about five to five and a half inches long from entrance to cervix. A woman's g-spot is located about two inches inside her vagina. Many women do not have vaginal orgasms, but those of us who do don't need a penis to be especially long, or wide, to have one. Penises that are more than about six inches long when fully erect can be downright uncomfortable for many women. A lot of us don't like to feel anything banging against our cervixes and, if the man thrusts on an angle, he runs the risk of driving against an ovary, which is excruciatingly painful for the woman and will surely bring things to a sudden, unpleasant halt! If one is hoping to give an orgasm by rubbing the length of one's penis against the woman's clitoris, whether this is going to work or not has more to do with positions than with the size of the penis. If the woman is on top, she may be able to position herself or grind against the base of her partner's organ. Rubbing while in the missionary position rarely works. There are some men who have unusually small penises, it's true. But they are very few and far between. Those organs are usually fully functional, meaning that the owner can have very satisfying sexual contact, though he and his partner(s) may find that intercourse is not their most favourite act. Speaking for myself, alone, though I imagine that many women agree with me, penises are great, but what a man does with his hands, his tongue and, above all, his mind are the things that make the most difference.

I don't think it's fair to assume you know the reasoning behind the decision to get implants, and that implants are only gotten because ladies are insecure. Some ladies get them for purely work reasons, and have them removed when they exit the industry. Some prefer the look of implants. Some get reconstructive surgery for whatever reason. It's not always insecurity that drives our decisions ;)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I LOVE my Bs and I have no qualms about going topless. I wouldn't get surgery even if it was on someone else's dime.

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Who's good these days at ALO? I haven't been since Gina left. Pm is good :) Posted from my iPhone

I am in full agreement with this statement. Openness and honesty are key factors in this business. I for one will never ever consider advertising myself as anything other than who I am. Being only 5'4, I don't say I'm 5'8", I am definitely not a spinner, nor am I a bbw, but my descriptions of myself are very accurate. We all conduct ourselves with distinction and give respect to those that wish to spend time with us. I certainly hope that anyone visiting this fair city is not discouraged in seeing any one of us, but you know the old saying, 'one bad apple spoils the barrel'. Unfortunately, there will be some in the business that want to 'outdo' the competition. It isn't a competition, it's a lifestyle, and the gentlemen that want to spend time with us will. We are all here for the same general purpose, to avail ourselves to the company of discerning gentlemen. Hopefully there will be no more of it, I do tire of seeing so called 'bashings' of other sp's. There is absolutely no need for it. As the very first line on the Cerb site says, 'if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all', and I believe that the ladies on this service live by that statement.

I suggest you talk to your doctor about it.

And it is a "North American" problem that will change slowly in the fullness of time. In many counties, working girls are just that and not viewed any different than any girl that works at any job and their customers are not looked down upon either. I haven't done it, but I've been there and seen it for myself many times; in many counties asking the hotel front desk staff for directions to the nearest brothel would raise no more eyebrows than if you asked them were the nearest store was to buy a pack of cigarettes. Often (routinely) the concierge at the hotel in these countries has asked me if I'd like them to arrange company for the evening as casually as they ask if I want them to summon a taxi for me. The brothels in Vienna are under capacity at this time so they are helping the homeless as the weather is so cold. http://austriantimes.at/news/General_News/2012-02-09/39376/Brothel_for_the_homeless_in_Vienna The "North American" attitudes will go away and change as surely as racial segregation did but like that did, it will take time but just as sure to happen. Eventually people will have more enlightened attitudes. Pretty backwards to me, the worlds oldest profession isn't going away, ever (thanks goodness) and CERB brings us a step closer; without criticizing anyone CERB puts those that would continue to give the "biz" a bad name out of business.

We know so little about the original poster. That makes it hard to draw specific conclusions, and I find myself trying to fill in the other details through guesswork, so I can decide what lessons can be drawn here. But that's a mistake. I can't comment on the OP's specific, real situation because I just don't know enough about him. But here are some assorted thoughts based on that post: - I think clients seek the company of SPs to fill a void in their lives. Seeing SPs can be expensive and risky (especially if you're in a relationship...!). That you'd choose to do so anyway should tell you that the need that propelled you was real. - In addition to being just a whole lot of fun, SPs can be fantastic resources for addressing that void, and not just with some immediate and fleeting relief. They can provide reassurance that what you're seeking is normal and healthy (whatever it is). And the experiences we have with SPs can equip us to ultimately confront and fill that void within the rest of our lives, without depending exclusively on paid companionship. Seeing SPs is perfectly healthy and perfectly normal. CERB made it seem that way because it *is* that way. BUT... how you integrate it with the rest of your life is up to you. - Seeing an SP while you're in a relationship is a serious decision and you have to take full responsibility for doing so. There's no absolute right or wrong here; everyone's circumstances are different. Some men's partners are sexually unavailable, unresponsive, repressed, or openly hostile. There are a hundred ways a couple's intimate life can be failing, and I think that for frustrated men, SPs *can be* a legitimate resource for addressing a sexual void. Ideally there would be a conversation and you could bring your partner on board first, but I understand how unlikely that is for most partners and relationships. But the choice isn't one to be made lightly, or carelessly, and you have to take full responsibility for the decision you're making and all of its possible consequences. - And finally, on that note: what to do if you're caught. I don't know if the OP was just caught visiting CERB, or having seen an SP, or what... but regardless, the game is up and your diversion is exposed. Now what...? Well, one choice is to condemn the entire sex industry and its entire apparatus, including CERB and everyone on it, for making itself seem legitimate. Run away from the whole thing, condemn the instincts that ever drove you here, and try your hardest to restore your life to the before-state and pretend nothing happened. ... OR ... Recognize that what drove you to seek out CERB might have been a legitimate need. Now that your partner knows what you were doing, it's time to talk to her about it, why you felt you couldn't talk with her about it before, and decide what you're going to do about it. I don't know if seeking out SPs was a serious or whimsical decision for you, whether it was ultimately justified or unjustified, but you made it and this is your chance to build a life that recognizes that choice, instead of running away from it. If you can't at least make your wife understand your decision by the time the conversation is done, then you've found an even larger problem in your relationship. Personally I recommend the second course of action. Because the first one -- denying something is missing for you, and blaming others for your decision -- is likely to fail in the long term, and I predict you'll end up in a similar place in the future. Only then it'll be steeped even further in shame, and so maybe it'll be just some ugly impulsive street action, and oboy... now you're screwing up in twenty new and different ways. Learn something from this. Don't just condemn it reflexively. And build a better life with what you've learned. Lots of us are already doing that, and speaking personally, being here on CERB *is* part of that better life for me.

Your quandary is, I am sure, one that most married men on here have struggled with at some point in time. Each has their own reasons for coming, staying, or leaving and, like religion, it has to be dealt with individually, rather than forcing one's own decision onto someone else. Good luck in your life and marriage and I do hope things work out well for you.

:icon_mad: Sorry if this seems harsh and scold me if you choose,but does it annoy anyone else when some inquire about other girls from other sites.After all we have a search area they can use to verify the said person and why look elsewhere anyway,there are so many beautiful ladies here.If you wonder about other ladies on other sites shouldn't you inquire there?

This sort of thing is only really an issue at the spas. I think if you've been around for a while you know pretty well what the range is, and it's really dependent on what you want from the session. I see one provider where there is no nudity, and I continue to see her because she gives a real good massage and understands how to give a superlative release. Others I expect a shower, body contact and some pretty liberal touching. If you can talk to the provider, ask for an all in fee. Also I always carry a few extra bucks in case she wants more than I expect, her loss because I won't repeat. And my last thought, lots of times I don't ask, and generally they are quite happy with what's laid down on the table at the end of the session. Try not too be too cheap and you'll have a great time.

I...errrrr. yeah

Perhaps the OP should thank cerb in allowing him to pursue outside interests, and eventually coming around to the decision that his relationship is more important to him than seeing sps. Without a safe place, like cerb, to find such provdiers, who knows what would have happened.

This lifestyle of escorts does not lead to unfulfilled marriages. Unfulfilled marriages lead you to us. From my understanding, this profession has actually saved many marriages from breaking up. We intelligent and caring women provide an invaluable service to men. Lauren

Unfortunately your right. And part of ignorance and stereotyping is labelling. Instead (and I'll use this lifestyle as an example) of ladies being referred to as ladies, terms such as whore, hooker, streetwalker, and prostitute are used. And guys, well referred to as johns. What does this have to do with anything. Well labelling allows for dehumanizing and marginalizing people, and not just society in general, but also police for example. This isn't minor btw. Why do you think it took so long, for example, to apprehend Picton. Because the mentality was that "it's only prostitutes", as if they were less than human." The police weren't looking to protect women, someone's daughter, mother, sister etc...the mindset was that these ladies were less worthy of police protection than mainstream society. And as a sidenote since entering this lifestyle seeing with my first encounter in July 2010, all I have met (even the four bad encounters) are ladies. I have yet to meet a hooker, whore, prostitute, or streetwalker A rambling RG

I'm totally in the same boat. Completely oblivious to the signs. I'm often out with friends and they will often comment on how "this girl" or "that girl" was checking me out....and I'm always like "Huh? What are you smoking? How did you pick that up?" and they'll always reply like "She was totally playing with her hair the whole time!"..........are you effin' kidding me? Or "Dude...she was totally smiling at you!"......to which I usually reply "uhhhh...yeah.....she was our waitress....she's supposed to smile at us" And I always get "No, no, no it was the WAY she smiled at you!"......How the hell is anyone supposed to pick up on this shit?? I'm totally a lost cause when it comes to reading signals.....unless she pretty much drops to her knees and starts undoing my pants right then and there I'm more or less oblivious to the fact that she's into me lol I still don't quite understand why a lot of women (in my experience anyway) can't come on to men the same way we do. You're into me? Great! TELL me! Men aren't known for being the most intelligent things walking around on this dirtball....you're giving us too much credit if you think we're gonna figure this shit out on our own. I think I can count on one hand the amount of times a lady has actually asked ME out. I'm not an unattractive guy, so I know there's been plenty more who have wanted to. But it seems a lot of women still refuse to make the "first movie". As much as our society and the views of the sexes has changed and progressed....in this one respect it still seems like we're living in the 50's. The man is still the one who seems to be doing all the work in the "courting" process. At least in the majority of my experience. Would it be so much to ask for a woman to give ME a lame and probably offensive pick up line in a bar? Would it be so much for a woman on the bus to shamelessly stare at my ass or at the crotch of my pants? Would it be so much to ask to have obscene comments and gestures thrown my way every time I walk past a hair salon? No....I don't think so! :p 'Kay I'm done ranting now lol

And in the same vein, it would be great not only if escorts were looked at in the same light as a banker, or other professional, but that guys weren't looked at as johns cruising up and down the street looking to "get off", but were in fact looked at as gentlemen, who have and do treat the ladies they see with respect. And that this lifestyle isn't an exploitive one, it is in fact mutually beneficial. RG

I like Angela because she's pretty cool - we've been chillin for a few years now and I dig 'er! ;)

People resent prostitution because it forces them to confront the illogical, outdated, petty, and repressed attitudes they have about sex, love, family, and relationships. So rather than confront or examine their own ideas, they just bash whatever challenges those beliefs. There is no logical arguement against prostitution.

I don't really mind that the OP said something public, heartfelt, and challenging before he left. And the discussion afterward has been useful. After all, we don't hold funerals for the benefit of the dead. How can they benefit? They're dead. We hold funerals for the sake of the living, who are still here and can use the chance to sort out how they feel about the death. Likewise, the OP's public death-rattle for his life on CERB is a chance for those of us still here to compare notes on how we feel about the same issues. Which I think we're doing pretty well.

Oddly enough, it makes me think of the way gypsies were despised in Europe for the longest time, because they had no land to tie them down -- they just travelled and lived as they could. Being without land or a community fixed in one place was contemptible, and this deviation from the narrow-minded norm implied you were unprincipled, irresponsible, and untrustworthy. If you hadn't bought into the prevailing institutions, you were a threat the Order Of Things. You were shunned and chased out of the area. I think even today, a lot of our prevailing morals have outdated, conservative roots, and come from times when churches held sway, communities were small and struggling, human labour was our primary engine for getting anything done, and Earth Needed People. The relevant old-time attitudes here are: a) making more people is the only legitimate way to spend a life b) marriage is the solemn institution in which you must perform a) c) sex is reserved exclusively for marriage in order to gild that particular cage d) prostitution is a threat to c) as well as b), and must be publicly condemned. So prostitutes, if they were known publicly, got the same treatment as gypsies: condemned, hounded, chased away -- even at the hands of their former clients. After all, we all know how ancient and universal prostitution is; that condemnation I mention in d) is about public display, not private behaviour. But it's a deep-rooted reflex for a lot of people who don't think this stuff through for themselves. Happily we're starting to emerge from that outdated framework. Same-sex marriage is one of the spearheads being driven into the heart of that particular institutionalized view of relationships, and shows the triumph of real-world experience and the tide of public opinion over archaic and fossilized irrational attitudes. I'm optimistic.

The OP's post is a reality check, and after thinking about it overnight, I REALLY appreciate it. It grabs you by the throat, as it should. And its important for anyone in a committed relationship to take to heart. I think many of you, especially the guys, are being really hard on the OP here. Many of you are parsing words and phrases, and I never think that's a good idea as the OP probably didn't put that level of thought into the post when he wrote it, not to mention that there is a lot of emotion in that post. Sure, he's blaming things a bit on cerb ... maybe ... but he seems to be taking responsibility and he looks to be in the middle of sorting all that out when he wrote the note. And I definitely disagree that he shouldn't come back and read the messages ... maybe that's helping him work through this, so I hope he does come back and take a look. I wish him the best.

It's true that at the end of the day, we all make choices that we have to live with. But let me put something into perspective for some of you. And this might strike a cord with people who have had problems dealing with something they could not control. When the average person goes out for a drink or two, there's no problem, and they can leave the bar. They go back home, live their lives and nothing ever changes. Then there are some people, who will continue to drink, and not stop. It will interfere in their life, and will bring chaos and possible ruin to it. Nobody is going to blame the bartender, but still this guys life is gone south. When the average person goes to the casino, he/she will blow some money, get a thrill and leave. Not to have the urge to come back the next day. It's about fun, and control. Then others will continue to gamble, and destroy their finances. Nobody will blame the blackjack dealer, but the individual will still suffer the consequences. Let's face it folks, this is a vice industry as well. And for the vast majority, it's something like gambling, or having a drink. It's even referred to as a hobby because it involves an activity that is not a necessity but something fun. Most people can start, and stop when they want. I will say this, I think the idea of having no strings attached with beautiful women to be as addictive as gambling and drinking. So this gentleman may have a problem with sex addiction. Joining Cerb may have provoked it, and it may have been like opening pandora's box for him. How do we act towards alcoholics or gambling addicts? Do we shun them, or do we encourge them to get help? I don't believe SP's are to blame, just as a bartender or blackjack dealer is to blame. I do believe that as a service provider, just as a bartender or anyone else in the Vice field we have a moral obligation to steer someone we see that is having issues in another direction if we are aware of a problem. I wouldn't take what he says about Cerb or the industry personally, at this point he is feeling sorry for himself, and his loss. It's time that he gets the help he needs and move on.

I also heard the term "G to G massage" - genital to genital massage. I just hope it was a protected one! I say this because some gentlemen seem to think that it's ok and safe not to use protection for this activity because they're not inside you...

I just wanted to say, and this isn't pointed at anyone directly, that a lot of people seem to be pointing to "hobbying", this "lifestyle", and the "industry" as some ugly, dark, and disgusting underbelly of society. WHY? It makes me really sad. Evry day on this board we push and try to show people in and outside of this "lifestyle" that we are all people. And that most of us are hard working, productive parts of the community. We are caring, and give to the community. Most of us could name at least 1 lady who regularly supports charities through their ads and sites. We are educated and successful. A large amount (probably majority?) of clients, as well as sex workers, are in school, hold degrees, are business owners (that's all the Indy ladies, I might add), and lead a good fullfilling life. So where are all these negative views on us as a group coming from? We know better, so let's stop perpetuating and helping those stereotypes. Sorry, back to the discussion at hand.

But it technically is innocent and harmless... Just like money and guns. It's the people and what they choose to do with things that bring about "destruction". I think too much of men in general to start believing they don't have any self control or the ability to think of consequences. It would be insulting if I did...

I think it's easy to understand the knee jerk reaction, when the sky falls in, to blame the obvious which in this case is CERB. My guess would be the OP's SO found evidence of his escapades and he is now paying the piper and his post is rationalizing his current life situation. With some people, it takes time for the actual act of taking personal responsibility for one's actions to sink in and become reality. There are some people that never reach that conclusion, it is always someone or something else's fault and they never reach the emotional maturity needed to accept they brought the situation on themselves and the situation they face is because of their choices and subsequent actions. Everyone entering into our little corner of the world understands the risks involved even when they won't admit them out loud. Most just hope that the worst case scenario never comes to fruition and have no coping strategy in place in the event it does. Indulging in the services offered here comes with knowledge that you may have to account for your actions and it should never be assumed you will not "get caught". This is exceedingly poor planning in my opinion. If you make the choice to participate, own it. Contrary to popular opinion, this is not a hobby or a sport and has the potential to bring great experiences or complete devastation to one's life depending on how you see the world and choose to cope with the results of your decisions. cat

At the risk of sounding rude, I have to agree with Sara. There are bad things in life, and good things in life. Yes we can look at life that simply, and place blame on everything and everyone around us for our problems. Or we can look at it this way: There are things in life. Situations, people, etc. They are bad, good, neither, both. But until we make a decision to react or let it effect us, it is meaningless. The only thing that controls your life and the things in it is YOU and the way you perceive them. Being a John or Hooker can have it's good and bad, of course. But even bad situations can be learned from and made into something good. I think in your case, you were in a bad situation with your wife, came here, decided to fool around, and in exchange, paid less attention to your home life. But in the same way, you could have picked another hobby, say ice fishing? In the end, it's not necessarily where you were or what you were doing, But What You Weren't Doing. Taking Care Of Your Family. That's not this sites fault, that's not any SP/MP's fault, that's not the computers fault, or the internets fault. It's Yours. It's a shame you didn't take anything good from this place. In the end, life is what you make it. This place has brought me lots of happiness, information, friends, experiences. I'm thankful for this place, and this life that I choose.

To live on the avails of prostitution means either to be earning an income from working for a prostitute in a personal capacity--generally as a driver, security staff or someone who takes calls and makes bookings for the lady, but also includes cleaning ladies, nannies and gardeners--or to be living in the same house or apartment as a prostitute even if you're not sex worker yourself. The rationale for living in the same space is that, were it not for the income provided by the prostitute, you would not be benefiting from living in that particular place solely on the basis of your own contribution to the living expenses. Roommates and live-in nannies may therefore be considered to be living on the avails. If a landlord rents or leases accommodation to a prostitute, knowing that she will use it for business purposes, the landlord may also be found to be living on the avails. While supporting our own children who live with us is technically considered to be forcing them to live on the avails, my understanding is that the courts are extremely reluctant to prosecute us for it and no one has been charged for it in years. It's perfectly okay for prostitutes to spend their income on things other than staff and rent. We can buy groceries, drop off dry cleaning, take our kids to daycare, pay for school fees, orthodontists, car insurance and order in a pizza quite legally. I can't see why we can't give money to others, including family members who don't live with us. Plus, if your mother gives you money for your tuition, I would hope that you, in turn, would give her the info she needs to be eligible for income tax deductions! As for taxing income, in Canada, income from all sources, including income received in exchange for sexual services, is taxable. The government is not living on the avails, however, because they don't live in our homes or incall locations, don't do personal work for us and they're not our landlords. With respect to sending text messages to an escort when you're both in a public place, I think you can do that. Text messages and e-mail are considered to be private communication. They can't be overheard by others nearby, which is one of the issues about soliciting in public.

People assume gfe means some sort of serviceis included (this is not true) gfe is a "style" of service and not any specific services ... All gfe means is that she is not "mecanical" (like right to the point and in / out as quick as possible). Nothing more should be expcted.

Yes, they absolutely help, and each and every review is appreciated. The MA experience is obviously very different from the SP, but just like any intimate encounter, many gentleman want to know what to expect beforehand. Does the girl talk, is she smart, does she hammer your back with her fists, etc. All good things to know before! Some people prefer a particular kind of encounter, and for me, I appreciate the reviews written about me because they'll help draw clients to me who look for the particular experience I offer. Which helps to make for a happy client, and a happy me!

Sometimes people behave impulsively. That's understandable, but when it comes to relations between paid companions and clients, surprises may not be interpreted in the ways that they were intended. After a lovely long walk with my dog I came home in the late afternoon today to find a box containing 18 exquisite long-stem roses on my doorstep. There was was a generic Valentine from the florist; the note said, "Thinking of you," but there was no signature and I don't recognize the handwriting. The florist's seal was on the box, so I called them. They didn't deliver anything to my house today. Whoever bought the roses must have gone into the florist in person and then delivered them to my house himself. Since it's Valentine's Day, they've been swamped with customers and have no idea who might have purchased the roses. I've had a quiet day to myself: I didn't see anyone today. I never encourage people to drop by unexpectedly. But someone has presumed to come to my place, uninvited, and left this ostentatious, expensive, anonymous gift. While it may be that the fellow thought he was doing something thoughtful and kind, my experience of it is very different. I feel unnerved. My boundaries have been violated, and my privacy has been breached by someone who didn't have the courtesy to identify himself. I wouldn't have been happy if I'd answered the door this afternoon. I would have told him off in no uncertain terms and I would probably have refused to see him again. I'm assuming that this may have been someone who has only visited me once or twice. I'm sure that none of my longer-term, regular clients would do this, just as I never call any of them without having been explicitly asked to do so. Discretion and confidentiality are essential to everyone. However, unless the person who delivered the flowers confesses, I will probably never know where they came from. That is deeply unsettling to me. I had a difficult time with a stalker last year. The police were very helpful and I know they got the message across to him loud and clear when they visited his home. He consented to a no-contact order and knows that if he were to breach it he would be arrested. I don't think he sent the flowers: he has too much to lose to risk doing something like this. Gentlemen, please take time to think things through very carefully before doing anything surprising or unexpected. In particular, never arrive at a companion's place uninvited and never send anonymous gifts or messages. What might seem to be a romantic gesture to you can easily seem much more ominous to us, unfortunately.

To eat Mcdonalds naked, with Keissy and some very lucky gentleman.... " Wifey, I think you dropped some ketchup, let me lick that off of you" Just Kidding, as much as that would be fun... I LOVE romance, so intimacy with candles, soft music playing the the background and a great bottle of bubbles, all amidst some mind blowing intimacy that goes on for what seems like forever....and heck if there is 3 of us, even better....

Summer meadows definition of GFE: Kissing Oral for both multiple positions Cbj hj sex with a condom 69er shower fun toys What am I forgetting? ;) GFE does NOT in my opinion (or bedroom) include anal, bbbj, CIM, COF or unprotected sex. Remember that's just me...every girl is different!

You beat me to it, BFK. Warm wishes to Zoe for a happy birthday and an awesome year!

Happy Birthday!

Yippy:) Happy Birthday, hope you have a blast today!

Happy b-day!

Happy Birthday Zoe Best wishes on your special day RG

Happy Birthday and all the Best!

Enjoy your special day.... Happy Birthday Zoe!!!!

Happy Birthday - It's all about YOU today! :)