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Sometimes we do not communicate what it is we need and want. Communication is important! Have you talked to her, letting her know what you were hoping for? Sometimes people think we can read your mind, and know exactly what you want. Sometimes I will book a date, but 2 weeks can go by, then when the time comes, I may forget what kind of special request you may have had. So a gentle reminder when confirming is a wise idea too. Sometimes we do get confused, or distracted. No one can be perfect every time either. Just as everyone...we can have an off day:( I think the lady would have appreciated discussing this in private, rather than publicly first? I am sure she would rather you talk to her, so that next time she can make it up to you. I know for me, I would be upset to think I made a gentlemen feel this way. Perhaps booking more than 1 hour would prevent the " wham bam" feeling? I know that many gents prefer more time for this reason. I am sure with being a reputable SP, she would understand how you may feel and perhaps offer you more time on next appt or offer you some donation back? I have learned that not every booking will be the perfect date, and that communication is key to a successful date!

I've been sitting here, reading some of the thought provoking threads regarding ettiquete, whether it be from an initial email, pm, initial meet and greet or an encounter. And one thing continually strikes me. In this service regarding intimacy, why is it some dont recognise the mind body connection? From the very first it begins with nothing more than a thought. Who is she? What does she look like? Will I find a gratifying experience? The excitment in a reply, the nervousness that comes with an initial encounter. Us ladies are no different. Our (my) hope is to seduce, enchant, charm, tease, entice and please you, not only your body but your mind as well. It shows. In the surroundings, the preparation, from the scent I'm wearing to the lingerie I've chosen. All to engage your senses. Sight, smell, sound, and then comes in the ability to have a thought provoking conversation. Now touch, once again, only a thought to begin with, I want to touch (her/him) here, or there. Ect you get the drift...lol I see no rush to reduce the pleasure that can be brought in an encounter from not taking the time to think about what will bring more pleasure. Even "that feels so good", is the mind only enhancing that pleasure. I may not kiss you during an encounter, but it wont stop me from hovering my mouth a half inch from yours asking you only to think about how much you want to.... We often want most what we cant have! lol Our minds are the biggest sex organ in our body. Why not utilize it to its fullest potential? Just my two cents :)

cat, I just have to quote from Robert Heinlein after that honest and touching post. "Nursing doesn't diminish the beauty of a woman's breast's. It just makes them look happy and lived in"

Just one more sleep until the Halifax Social:) Cannot wait to meet all you lovely Cerbies. Hope your all as excited as I am.

I'm getting really excited about attending our Meet and Greet here in Halifax. Should be loads of fun, and it will be great to meet all the other beautiful and talented SP's attending as well. Not sure if that's a good thing though guys, afterall, if you haven't noticed, we girls tend to slip off to the bathroom in groups, and we could be gone for a long, long time, and could be tired out once we return. Can't say what really happens when we go to the bathroom in groups, because its a girl secret! Wink! Wink! I even went and had my nails and eyebrows done today, to look my very best for you guys... Can't wait to wear the new dress I bought for this special night as well. See you all there....

Although I've never had this happen with a reputable CERB lady, I do accept it as one of several hazards we have to accept. Everyone has an off day, even me. Fortunately on one of my off days the lady knew (could tell) I was dog tied and just changed gears and treated me like a King. So could it be that you didn't communicate your expectations? Probably not. If not, it is a self correcting problem. I agree, many gentlemen invest hard earned money and to be treated like it's all about money, she gets to see anyone that sees her just once and never again. Those ladies that are consistent and give their all, well, I still say they give so much and ask so little in return. But if this isn't the case it wouldn't be long until she has no repeat clients and then isn't that what it's all about? To me, I value my "professional" friends so much and they in turn value me and won't ever let me down willingly. Unwillingly I understand and expect from time to time. So sorry to hear about this.

I have had those experiences as well bigdawg, way in the past, not anymore. It is a disappointment for us, especially if she is a) well recommended b) you both shared some detailed information prior to the engagement through pm's or emails how you would like the encounter to go,and it is major let down, that is a disappointment. I had my share of those and I simply don't go back to visit. THIS IS NOT A RANT...just some insight..... We are asked as gentlemen to be on time,have great hygiene,don't drink,don't come early and don't come late, and act accordingly and be a gentleman and have the envelope and put it in a discreet place. I have followed those golden rules, BUT..... I have waited patiently outside in my car,I always have great hygiene, I don't come late or early and always act accordingly like a gent. But have had to wait for her,or she had not showered, or she had been drinking as you can smell it off her. THEREFORE.... As I said I have had my share of those incidents, but no more for me, as I will not tolerate it myself. The lady is providing the service, and we of course provide the funds,gifts and our pleasant selves. SO.... it must work both ways.Not only all of this prior, but in the boudoir as well. It does take two to tangle and have great chemistry, and lately for ME things have been excellent, and those ladies I truly admire them for their service they provide to myself and giving themselves to me, and opening their place for me to visit, and I always will appreciate that. It is a two way street, and yes chemistry is very important for two people to mesh. One of my very reasons I thoroughly enjoy getting some good dialogue going on with a lady to get to know her much better through email,pm's and even text messages. But what you are saying, and stating, this provider neglected you throughout your encounter, and that's not right. YES I have been there too and know what you are saying..... Feeling badly afterwards,IT is a normal feeling where you wished a) It was better time with that provider. b) She put some effort into the encounter. (In your case here only) c) Yes you look at wallet and your account, and you are kicking your ass saying "Why did this happen to me" I could seen lady x,y, or z...yes been there! Thanks bigdawg for your post.

What a great thread idea! I love lingerie from Lilac Lingerie in Ottawa. Lilac Lingerie are the sole carriers of the brand "Pleasure State". As someone with wide shoulders and small breasts, it is difficult to find suitable lingerie. "Pleasure State" is not only perfect for me, but incredibly beautiful. p.s. I own the grey and black set in the second picture ;)

This sunday the 24th weather permitting... i am thinking ottawa-renfrew-bon echo-plevna-ompah-lanark-almonte-ottawa - it's about a 5 hour loop + stops stop at the swiss inn on 41 for midway snacks/drinks/etc ... of course - other suggestions welcomed r100rs

Thanks for all the suggestions! I will definitely be heading to RibFest soon too... miam!

To prove your point about the mind body connection, how many woman are out reading "Shades of Gray" right now. their minds turn them on long before anyone has touched them. i think the most important thing in mind body connection is respect; without respect we have nothing and with it, let the fun begin!

Central A/C And yes it does effect my performance. I am a summer person and dislike Winter. I was probably Latino in a previous life. :) In the summer I feel better, I can go camping and be outside more, wear less clothes (you should see what I have on right now!), more freedom to explore places, wear less clothes...oops I said that already. My mindset is much better (not that it's bad in the Winter, just better in the summer) and I suspect it reflects in my personality in the boudoir as well.

I agree with what everyone has said. Great thread idea Jade, as someone previously mentioned, you're an incredibly intelligent (and might I say beautiful) woman. I truly enjoy the interpersonal connection that sex and intimacy can bring to an encounter, but first and foremost, I enjoy moving beyond the purely physical. I enjoy encounters best where both parties are able to be open and share their thoughts and feelings about various things. When I initially read this thread, I thought it was going to be about yoga! The mind and body connection during meditation/yoga/thai massage is really important. Sometimes during my longer encounters I offer this service and it really helps with establishing that mind/body connection. Thanks for posting this thread, it's great to see that some of the liveliest posters on CERB have similar thoughts and feelings about what makes a good encounter.

So your looking for more talking and touching then actual penetration? Have you considered prostate massages? If you communicate this with the SP you have chosen to see then I am sure she would happly oblidge.

Hey, did I say that I was accepting the job? Too much responsibility, people's lives are at stake here, man! I won't have their blood on my hands, I can't accept, nosiree! ;)

I would agree with everything you wrote. I have the first version of ICS (4.0.1) and not the lastest versions. However, it not Google's fault and more the carriers for not releasing the last versions and not too sure why they don't...so not happy with that. But i do disagree with your statement on Apple. I had a 3G and when the 4 came out with the latest software (IOS 4, i think) it would hardly run on my phone, actually i never upgraded past 3.1.3 i think, as anything above it would slow it down. And it got to the point where most of my apps wouldn't run anymore on the phone...so Apple pretty much forced me to buy a new phone to keep current (figuratively and literally)...hence not going back to Apple. Apple wants you to remain their customers by buying the latest iphones, to keep current. anyways, that's my take and experience.

Shorter sandimoon: douchebags exist, and there's nothing you can do about it :) The real problem here is that a non-trivial segment of the online population has issues with basic reading comprehension and common courtesy. All I can suggest is to just use the block button, as backrubman said earlier - I'd be surprised if the people giving you hassle are the ones who actually contribute to the site, so you probably won't be missing anything by doing so.

Maria is such a sweetheart. Saw her again the other day after a couple of years and she reminded me of all the best things about seeing an MP. Beautiful lady and great heart.

There are people in my industry that do not represent us well, as there are in every industry, good doctor, bad doctor ,good lawyer ,poor lawyer, its just that simple, i,ve met some incredible providers and a few that should consider other careers lol- but the one thing i have learned is if you use the resources you have here your odds of a poor experience drop dramatically and the odds of finding someone you connect with are vastly improved ! sorry to hear you had a bad experience but it happens !

My travel plans for the summer? Ottawa to visit my friends and families. Ohio to go to a renaissance fair. Detroit to visit a friend Montréal because it's the most beautiful city in the world France to visit my family London (UK) to visit my lover. I'm a busy girl 0_o

Today's goddess for me is Sweetshay, awesomely beautiful and hot. She has enthusiastic recommendations and lots of admirers, including me :) Here's her reco thread: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=37953 Another look:

Of course you are, but so are the rest of us. Welcome to Pervy Woman Central, a.k.a. Cerb.ca Enter, stay a while, some of us live here. Seriously though.... You may not be the Cerb status quo, Jenn, but you are a most wonderful addition. As Porthos stated, a trail blazer. Kudos! Now I prefer Outties as opposed to Innies, no offence, that's just me, lol. However, there are many SPs here who love to see ladies or couples as clients. You are already doing everything right. In this section, asking questions, receptive to feedback, honestly expressing concerns. A wonderful start. A couple of ideas on how you might reduce this, by no means a criticism, just observations from an SP viewpoint. On your profile, it says I am a w4w. Maybe you could put in along the lines of Bi-Lady Hobbyist or Female Client, something like that. You could tweak your board handle, too. At first glance, theDDD part seems like advertising your cup size since a few SPs do exactly that. Of course it could also mean you are a fan of Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives, but men won't assume that! LOL. As for the guy asking to share an SP, (seriously dude?) I share Angela's opinion, as it comes from first hand experience. Lol, wanna bet? If you followed one of us just one day in our lives, rest assured, you would see things very differently! You are a respectful guy, sadly not all are. You would be stunned at the amount of men who come to an escort board, looking to hire on as our photographer, driver, security, incall, be our boyfriend, all of which is code for " it'll be free then right? " And of course the one used so often I weep for the future is " I'm really hot, do I still have to pay? " No exaggeration. Jenn, you have no idea. At one time or another we have all heard variations of: " can I try you out first; what do you mean I have to pay you both; if you're already here can my friend take a turn too; I don't want sex, just a BJ; do you have student discounts; my rent's due, can you cut me a deal; I'm on a budget/pension/unemployment; I know your ad says 250, but I'm over my ATM limit & can only get 80....cool? " And I swear, every one is a real request. Welcome to our world! Unfortunately this behaviour is not limited to junior members & as for this: there is simply no excuse for not taking no for an answer. Sorry you had to deal with that. Jenn, you are new, yet clearly appreciate proper etiquette. With your considerate, respectful & open attitude, your connections with SPs, when you choose them, will surely be wonderful. I also envision your Cerb tenure to be a long & positive one. You offer the truly singular perspective ( and already have ) of being a woman & married & a client all at the same time. I sense your presence, opinions & contributions will serve as very illuminating & educational for all of us. In fact I am looking forward to it. Sincerely, Jenn, welcome & have fun! Sandi

Super stoked about visiting Halifax again after almost 10 years. So excited in fact, I can't sleep. Gonna be a long drive. But I'm in good company. See y'all there and to Old Dog: Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah!

Juuuust remember about this .. cant sleep now thinking about it ... Its RIBFEST weekend in ottawa :D http://www.sparksstreetmall.com/Chicken_Rib_cook_off_standard.htm

I don't know, I have had three people solicit me even after I tell them I am not an SP. Even after I told them I was only looking for women and that I don't sleep with men who aren't my husband. But most yes are here for pay to play (I kind of like that saying) but I bet some of the men even try to negotiate with the SP's rates even though they say not to. There are people always looking for "cheaper" which is sad because most women I have viewed through CERB (their sites anyway, haven't made the leap yet) seem to be exceptionally classy and quite educated and lovely women whom I would say deserve every penny they get. Also each time I have been solicited by a man through PM it is a new account user, so maybe they don't know the ins and outs, as I too am still learning. Cheers.

LMFAO vs. Oakenfield... Ouch! It looks like I'll be camped out at the Electro stage pretty much the entire time. I'm also looking forward to Conor Oberst and Lauryn Hill... and WTF is I Mother Earth doing opening for Nickelback?!

I have seen providers create a completely different alter ego that seem to be a polar opposite of who they are. Over the years I've learned to spot the ones that are simply bringing a facet of themselves out into the open and recognize the completely created providers because the fakes can't maintain the facade for long. For me, I entertain as myself. The woman who opens the door is the same woman that I am 24/7/365. There is no extra polish or presentation just because I have a guest over. My gentlemen get my genuine, often unedited opinions, thoughts, feelings and actions put into a visit. I have found that trying to split who I am between a personal and work life to be a bit undoing at times. I divide my time and keep specific work/personal hours but I am the same woman in my personal life as I am when I entertain. It makes life easier for me... cat

Sorry.. I won't be able to make it for this one.. but I gave Angela and Boomer some of my mags and movies to give out as prizes. I'll hopefully be visiting with Isabelle Styles in July and be able to see some of you lovely Easterners! Have fun this Friday.

Interesting observations Jade-S. Is it possible that there's a common element? That you're trying to make a decision in the face of a complex situation. For example, when complimented you might be trying to decide whether to believe it, whether it's sincere, and whether to accept it proudly or perhaps express disbelief. When you don't want to kiss someone, you might be trying to decide whether you'll hurt their feelings. Or perhaps you're just not sure yet whether you want to kiss them. As for naughty thoughts, hmmmm. Perhaps you're trying to decide whether to act on them? Or whether to tone down your smile, lest people wonder what you've been up to! Anthropologically, I think we bite our lips to increase our concentration and improve focus. And we do that when our brains are puzzling over something complicated, weighing different facts or options. Or when we want to sharpen our senses, to feel things more intensely. (Such as an intimate touch, like an nibble on the ear or a kiss on the nape of the neck.) When we bite our lip for that reason, I think it's often coupled with closing the eyes -- as if to cut off one sense in order to heighten another, and to tell ourselves "this isn't a dream -- I'm awake and it's real!" Anyway, that's my two cents worth.

I dunno... It just works for me....

This is bologna! I'm a doctor, and it was published in the British Medical Journal that STD pathogens exponentially decay over time at a rate that is proportional to the level of trust and emotional connection between the two parties involved. Even better... if you are on a first-name basis, then your thryoid fires off hormones that inhibit the appearance of sores and the excretion of virus particles. Meaning that it is virtually impossible to get herpes from a pussy slide if the two parties have a trusting emotional connection, especially if the pussy is sufficiently wet and tight :) However, if she makes you cum on a toilet seat, and you share the toilet seat, then she could get pregnant. So watch out!