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Gentlemen, In light of recent events, I would like to bring a few respectful points to your attention regarding declined requests. "No" means what it means -NO- Nothing less, nothing more. It simply means no! Respect it and move on to someone else who will be able to provide you with what you are looking for without making a huge fuss about it and accusing the lady of having a bad attitude, especially when the request(s) are turned down gently and diplomatically. Please understand that when a lady already has a lot of pictures available for you to look at, she may not want to send you more pictures of herself because you want to see a specific body part. There are a multitude of reasons for her to decline politely and I do not think her personal or professional reasons should matter or made subject of pure assumptions after turning you down; If that specific body part picture is not available for you to look at before an encounter and if that specific picture is going to make or break an appointment, please look for ladies who already show what you are looking for. Furthermore, when a lady says she is not available to meet with you, she is NOT available to meet with you. Again, the reasons for her not being able to see you are irrelevant. Please, move on to someone who is without feeling the need to investigate as to why she was not available. It's quite creepy when I'm told, at a later time by a gentleman I wasn't available for, that after doing 'local inquiries' he was able to find out "why" I was not available to meet with him. Why the need to take it that far? No matter what your request is (extra pictures, specific 'sercives', ect, even a get together), when a lady declines, it is what it is and her preferences, choices and decisions should be respected even though you would've preferred otherwise. There is also no need to put her under a scrutinising eye and make silly assumptions when you do not get what you want. Acting out, being mean spirited, gossiping and the likes after the fact is never going to get you what you wanted in the first place... It is simply better to forget about it and move on. Gabriella

Hi I've been a member of cerb for over two years now. and have read the posts of these women almost every day and have the opportunity to meet a small selected few of the women in Ottawa. It is with heartfelt thanks to my appreciation to the kind caring women of Cerb that post and contribute their opinions and advice to us men. I admire these women as they offer their services without discrimination to men of all sizes, races, disabilities. All the ask is that you are a gentleman and are clean. They offer companionship, sometimes friendship to lonely men, widowers and virgins. For a short time the man can feel human, or needed again. Some men are shy and lonely. This gives them the chance to be with a woman that he can only dream about, the girl from school that was out of reach. Or they can fulfill a fantasy. Sometimes they can keep a marriage going by providing the sex that is needed in a sexless marriage. I just wanted to show my appreciation for the services and companionship that they offer. And I am sure that other members of Cerb feel the same way. If so let's here from other Cerbies :) Yours Someguy

I smile when I think about that favorite lady of mine. She's so sweet. She's so pretty. But under her wholesome girl-next-door good looks, she has a playful and kinky mind. Every time I see her, she comes up with another crazy suggestion after another. She whispers them to me with a gleam in her eyes, and they're always fun. I really do think that for the crazy things she comes up with the pleasure is all hers. And who am I to deny my favorite lady her fantasies? Why, it's the gift that keeps on giving, I tell you. We play our wicked games late into the night together. But in spite of all the kink, all the wildness, there's something that I really love about her. It's that in spite of all our kinky play she still delights in a gentle kiss, a soft touch. My warm fingertips grazing the back of her neck as I set alight a butterfly kiss on those full lips of hers. We've both been at this a long time. She's a little older, as she would put it. Or a little better, as I would put it. Many men have graced her bed in all these years, and of course I've graced a few beds in my time. And though we've been getting wilder and wilder with time, she hasn't become jaded. She still delights in the simple things, as do I. It isn't easy, still holding on to that sense of wonder. I see who I could become, sometimes, when I get together with some of my friends. I know the locker room talk all too well. That macho banter that sometimes comes up whenever a few of us pooners get together. And we tip a drink or two, and sometimes the banter turns sharp and bitter. You know the lines, I'm sure. All those hos are interested in is my money. Those bitches better give me what I'm paying for. Because, you know, I'm entitled to it. And so on. I know there can be a distaff counterpart, where the ladies call us suckers. Walking ATMs. They might say that they could get away with anything and us drooling dogs will still come to call. It's been hard to take, when I've overheard it. And I can't believe it's any easier when the ladies overhear the guys. Oh, sure, there have been a few ladies who have treated me like a walking wallet. Just as I'm sure as the nose on my face, that the ladies sometimes have to put up with the smelly, ill mannered, rude clients out there. I honestly can't blame anyone who starts to feel like everyone on the other side is the stuff of dismal nightmares on a bad day. It would be altogether too easy to. It might be late in the evening and I might be glassy eyed and my speech may slur when I hear these bitter sentiments, but I just smile and nod and keep my mouth shut. I know the power these words have in forming my opinions, and I don't want to hold them. I never want to feel that way. I want to see the best in everyone. I want to believe that the lady with me is sincerely enjoying my company, that the interest isn't purely professional. Because for my lady, I'm sincerely interested in her well being. I want to know what she really thinks. I want to see the best in her, and I usually do. And perhaps because of that, my lady always sees the best in me as well. Truth to tell, it takes an effort to stay on the side of the angels. When I feel like I'm starting to get bitter, when I get down, I know it's time to take a sabbatical. I've taken a few, in my years in the hobby. My lady does the same. She isn't always available, either. I know my lady has missed me when I've been away. But I always come back, fresh and rarin' to go. I kiss her like I haven't seen her in years, and then we fuck like sailors on shore leave. And just before I leave her home, leaving her starry eyed, sweaty and panting on her bed, I kiss her softly goodbye. And she knows, it's never truly goodbye. It's just so long, till the next time.

I would like to apologize for my comment, I was out of line. ...Now back to the discussion folks....

I am intrigues by fifty shades of grey

I should also add that if you've burned an SP in the past, do not expect her to see you again no matter how many times you've apologized. If you've done something or acted highly inappropriate to an SP, guaranteed you've made it to her shit list for lack of a better word. Don't call her, don't text her, don't friend request her after she's removed you and don't bash the SP to other SPs friends of hers telling them the SP in question 'needs help' when she doesn't answer you back. Take a clue! If she did, it would be to "f------ off" and many ladies have more class than that. In my own experience, if you've burned me or acted inappropriately towards me, there are no second chances and you no longer exist in my world. If I had another type of personality, all the guys on my shit list would literally be told to go f------ themselves or worse because that's what I think in my head about people who have wronged me but I'm better than that. I don't bother with verbal rampages because some people just arent' worth it and it's their loss in the end. Treat others how you want to be treated and you will have no problems with the ladies here.

Even when some of us have tried to convey the message to a gentlemen why we can't or don't want to see them, some have trouble dealing with rejection and their way of handling it is to then to pressure the lady to reveal why, insult or degrade the lady in some which is not pleasant. But at least then, it's an assurance to me that I made the right decision. Sometimes it's not "about you" fella. We have lives and you have no idea what may be on our plate. And even if it is "about you", and the lady doesn't want to "go there" by explaining specifically why she won't see you, save face and don't press on with the issue. And if it comes down her actually telling you "the truth", then just take your lumps and move on. Just as you are under no obligation to see a particular lady, we are under no obligation to see everyone who asks. I just want to add, that turning down clients is something we do for our safety and peace of mind in order to ensure that we give the best level of service possible. If we're not "feeling it", then no sense in doing it.

And there is one and only, WrinkledInTime known to everyone as WIT. So kind and so intelligent and an all time best contributing member of cerb. The undisputed most valuable member, and most knowledgeable member. This thread (cerb Remembrance thread) is meaningless without a post about him. So, lets remember WIT and his enormous contributions to this board and this community spanning over several years. The one with all answers and the one who will be never forgotten, WrinkledInTime, you will be always in our memory and hearts and I think that I speak on behalf of all cerbites to say that we thank you very much for all your invaluable contributions WIT and we all hope that you decide to come back to cerb one day soon. cerb is not same without you.

Will trying new restaurants lead to obesity? Of course not. Just because someone likes to explore varied menus doesn't mean they'll abandon everything else in their lives in this one pursuit. I think there really are cases of sex addiction, in which people come to crave the psychological rewards of sex almost exclusively and actively sabotage their own larger well-being in its pursuit. But I think it's rare. On the other hand I think it's common for people to crave intimacy, and for some people to end up taking risks to obtain it when it's absent from a primary relationship. In this respect I guess I'm just repeating the point Samantha already made, but I wanted to add a "+1" to her post. People who don't understand the role of physical intimacy in living a healthy, fulfilled life (or who halfway understand it, but dismiss it or wave it away with contempt as alarmingly weird or a kind of weakness) are quick to label a case of "needs intimacy" as "is addicted to sex". Racing to slap the addiction label onto a simple, varied sex life is a way to diminish and scorn it, and it helps make people with small, narrow sex lives feel safe and validated. Again, I think there can be genuine cases of clinical sex addiction recognizable by professionals. But I think most of the time when lay people cite sex addiction, it's mostly an expression of their own deep-seated puritanism.

Although an optimist and even though a few minutes of self-reflection could be useful for some, I highly doubt this type of 'gentleman', and I use the word lightly, will ever come to the realisation that they might be the problem and not the other way around. It is often easier for someone to use projection to make themselves feel better about their own self in situation(s) that are not going the way they wanted to. Once they no longer feel in control of the situation, often, a false sense of entitlement, arrogance, denigration and passive aggressive attitudes follow quite easily while denying any wrong doing. Quite unpleasant to deal with!!

The very delightful Kitty told me she'd be at Barb's today and Barefax Wednesday. I agree that Saturday afternoon seems to be the best bet to see her at Barb's.

Being in the position not only to pay mom's minimum card payment (see things that suck) on her credit card bill, but I was able to pay most of the balance on the card off for her You only have one mom, and what was a major expense for her being on a pension was relatively minor for me since I still am employed RG

I have perused BP in several locales particularly when I started out in this "hobby" but quickly tended to equate it with CRAIGS LIST. I do not think neither BP nor CL is suitable for the newcomer to the "hobby", particularly in the USofA where there is the L-E element to contend with. I see it akin to the "Wild West" where anything goes and frankly, particularly in this field of endeavour, I really need to know exactly what to expect or I don't want to play. I agree with several other posters that the CERB Forum offers a much more comfortable venue where I can meet people of similar interest and have meaningful discussions while remaining anonymous. If I wanted a quick roll in the sack I'd be more inclined to scan BP/CL looking for action. However my preference is more to fun and memorable experiences with special ladies and that is why I spend time here, hanging out, getting to know people by reading their posts, exchanging PMs and just seeing what may develop. I far prefer quality over quantity and I find that is the case on this Forum. I must say that even though I have only been a member a short time I have found this Forum to be a friendly environment and I feel comfortable sharing my thoughts and ideas. I also visit BESTGFE which is more centered in the US northeast region but it is nowhere near the community as I find in this Forum. BESTGFE is more of a "Meet Market" but at times the forums can be interesting and the field of play is much larger but definitely not better. Thank you for making me feel at home here.

Kitty dances very rare. The best bet would be three Saturdays from now. She told me she is there once every three weeks. Mia didn't allow even one kiss lol and no wife to report to, in my case.

I know this isn't a puppy... but this is what I am getting instead of a puppy, Just as cute, just as cuddley and cnon now...look at that face <3 xoxoxox

One of the reasons I love it when a lady has an auto-reply function on their e-mail. I then know that a) she received the e-mail and b) that I'm getting her replies. The auto-reply also usually sets out a time frame for when my e-mail will most likely be replied to. That way, once that time frame passes, I don't feel like a quick e-mail follow up is out of order. Porthos

I knew there was a reason why I liked you ;) I usually have a hanger available on the back of the bathroom door for my gentleman's clothes. If there are no hooks available on the back of the door, the door handle is just as good. If not, it is easy to hang the clothes in the closet you're using... IF they do not end up on the floor before we make it to the shower part first :) Additional comment: It's never an issue for my gentleman to put his clothes in my closet as I do not wear perfum so there's no chance of him smelling like 'me' when he leaves ;)

This thread means nothing to me. This is probably related to the fact that I've never seen the point in ironing anything in the first place :)

I like your pants, but they'd look better on the floor.

Happy birthday, Steve! I tried to make you a birthday cake with sprinkles on it, but... well, it kinda went wrong, so this will have to do...

There's nothing hotter than having your sp help dress you after a fun tryst, running her hands down your back and chest to smooth out the wrinkles, buttoning up your shirt and sealing it with a kiss, now that's classy and sexy! :)

To be honest, I wouldn't expect them to call you back unless you left a voicemail saying that it was OK to do so, and when. Unless the call has been pre-arranged, a SP calling a client is prone to all kinds of issues with discretion. What if she calls back while you happen to be with your SO? Tricky, that, and my understanding is that most SPs just don't want to deal with it :) And that's one of the reasons I prefer email... far fewer problems like this :)

I like Isabella's always positive, caring and bubbly nature! :)

Okay, what about St-laurent area? There is cheap places there and lots of highrise. Its also very central and close to downtown,

Pretty sure the OP was looking for info on who offers this, not on who thinks it's "yuck" or "nasty". If this is something you don't offer or are not interested in, fair enough, but then why even click on a thread entitled "Extreme Gagging" in the first place? A fetish is a very personal thing to many. And usually, not something one has very much control over. I feel that someone should be able to come to cerb (and to the "BDSM, Fetish, etc" section of cerb of all places) and inquire about a fetish openly without having to be told his/her fetish is gross, immoral, etc.....regardless of what it is.....assuming of course that said fetish is occurring between two (or more :p) consenting adults. Ye ol' cerb motto applies here. If thou shant have anything good or helpful to say, thou shouldn't say anything at all. That being said I'm also interesting in knowing who provides an extreme-ish DT (although for me personally, not to the point of puking). Additional Comments: You may want to inquire with Berlin about this. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing her yet and I'm not sure if she offers exactly what you're looking for. But on her website she quotes "messy/gagging blowjobs" as part of the fetish/submission services she offers. Like I said, I haven't met her yet but she's very reputable and has very good reviews. Considering the nature of the request it's probably a good idea to PM her or e-mail her first to determine if she offers exactly what you're looking for.

Obviously I'm missing something here. Can someone pm me the link to the other site? Thanks!

BP is like any other advertising resource available for SPs. There are many established providers who utilize it. It is also a hub for bait and switch, cons and rip offs. The key is to do your homework and research a provider that you find appealing by checking the boards and Cowboys Diary for information. Google is your friend. If you are looking for the "cheap" diamond in the rough provider then you simply have to suck it up and TOFTT, then see how the dice roll... cat

sounds like bethany to me She is my fav

And there's never enough Nicky: And just a pic I like. You can tell she's got awesome abs :)

I was happy to see my all time favorite and old friend Kitty. She also has the picture of a kitty (you know the one that does meow, meow) on her kitty. She has such a cute face just like a kitty. She has very kind heart. Very cute face and beautiful inside out (I have reviewed her a few times already lol). Had dances with her and she works very rare and once she does, she is almost always taken but she always makes time for the 10 year old friendship we have and in between her regular customers sees me. She is still a beautiful brunette and though in her late 20's she still looks like a teenager. Highly recommended if you can catch her to dance for you. Paid an unplanned visit to Playmates hoping to see the 5 beauties I met past weeks. No sign of them and the place was dead so I drove back to Barbs (only took pepsi lol as I knew I was going to drive around the city. Not fun). When I was back around 5:00 pm it had improved. More girls and more fun. Saw a young lady by the name of Scarlett . I couldn't believe she was Moroccan. She had pale soft skin and very sexy slim body. I had 5 dances with her. What distinguishes her from any other dancer was her very very sexy areola around her nipples which was so large in area. very sexy tight medium size young pair of breasts kissing of both and the areola was an absolute pleasure you can't imagine. Highly recommended. Another lady by the name of Mia was very friendly. Once in CR she told me she has had tanning spray on her body so I can't kiss her anywhere as marks will be left and she would look like a leopard (I wonder why she didn't mention nothing before going to CR). I had only couple of songs with her. Two ladies Claire and Raven were both busy flirting at the bar with their regulars I didn't get a chance of CR lol but will have them in mind......

We had our differences but we also agreed on many things, regardless Megan was an active contributing member here for years (and I believe she was/is an active member for the good of this industry as well) and she made some very valuable posts and comments on this board during those years. I am sure Megan is missed by many. My personal view, we all make choices and sometimes outside the (sometimes tight) circle of the rules, but we all deserve a second chance if we (she) would like to have one. I hope that she will be back to cerb too on some mutually accepted terms. Regardless this thread would not be complete without remembering her and hoping her return.

Making someone smile Laughing at myself Feeling good after working out at the Gym Passamaquoddy Bay in New Brunswick A salmon dinner Sunday Morning A thread like this on CERB

Cleanliness of hands and properly clipped nails are required of course. One other thing I don't think has been mentioned in this thread: All nails must be sanded down(emery board) on top and edges. A lady set me straight in that regard, and even showed me how to do it properly. I imagine alot of scraggly nails are why some ladies don't allow digit play; oneof my fave things.

i would love to try and its kind of hard to just bring that up in conversation... "hey, how are you?... do you mind if i pee on you?" ------------------ I would get such a giggle out of that, and not in a bad way. As a private performance artist I think I should add a "willing to try if u ask me" section lol. I can completely understand the shyness of asking for fetish; but if a lady offers fetish in her advertising I am sure she/he would be comfortable discussing any fetish if they perform the service or not. So to you lovely fet lovers out there...... Don't be shy Give it a try Don't be afraid to touch the sky ;) As always Be safe, happy, and satisfied <3 Posted via Mobile Device

Advertising, whether online or in print, is perfectly legal. There have been judicial rulings in the 1980s that said that advertising is private communication because readers are never forced to read ads. The only way to work legally is to go to the client's location for the call. That said, this is also one of the least safe ways to work, too. If you decide to do outcalls only, please, please, please make sure you have a driver and that the driver knows where you're going and what time you'll be ready to leave. Call the driver when you enter the house or hotel room and call again at an agreed-upon time. For example, if your meeting with the client will last an hour, make sure you call the driver when the hour is over, no matter what. If the driver doesn't hear from you, you should have a plan about what they are to do. If you don't have a driver now, contact other ladies where you are and get some recommendations. Don't hire someone who's just decided that this is a cool and sexy way to make a bit of money now that there's even less risk of prosecution than there was before recent the Ontario Court of Appeal decision. You want someone who is experienced and has been proven reliable. I never go to clients' homes except in very rare cases where I have known the client for quite some time. Even then, I once ran into a problem that I was able to manage easily enough but which would not have happened at my place. The difficulty with hotel rooms and clients' homes is that you have no idea who is on the other side of the door when it opens to admit you. If you go to a hotel, make sure you check out the room thoroughly, looking in the bathroom, including the shower, and the closets. If there's a door that adjoins another room, make sure that it's locked on your side so that no one can enter from the room next door. In a client's home, the problem is that you don't necessarily know where all the exits are. It's harder to know who is in the place and you have no control over whether someone else may arrive while you're there. I can appreciate your reluctance to work from your own apartment but, frankly, this is safer than going to someone else's location. It's not legal, but unless you see a high volume of clients, entertain late at night or cause unusual noise, you're not likely to have a problem. It's critically important that the companion be in control of the encounter at all times, every time she meets with anyone, wherever the meeting takes place. That's much easier when you're in your own place and much more difficult when you're in the client's home. Despite these warnings, it's true that many women work successfully doing outcalls. It might be a good idea to connect with some others and find out about their safety strategies. Over time we all think of things that never occurred to us when we started out. Always remember: nothing, absolutely nothing, ever, including any amount of money, is more important that your personal safety, so don't compromise!