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And that is where you will be absolutely and completely wrong. It is far harder for a young 20's guy to get an appt with a higher rate escort (who are actually usually mid 20's and up, i think) than it is for a guy 35 and up. i could probably provide links to a half dozen sps thinking off the top of my head with minimum age requirements that you don't meet. You are falling into that 'I'm young therefore I'm more desireable' trap that affects many of the younger guys. In fact it is such a syndrome that even lower rate sps have minimum age requirements, lol. I think maybe read in the general area the section "New to This" and you will get a pretty great idea about what is and is not attractive to sps. In the US, many escorts charge higher rates, sometimes because they are out of an agency, and often because it is just so highly illegal sometimes just having a super high rate helps reduce the chance they will see LE. And even then, they are more likely to need references and have minimum age requirements lol. You can definitely try Toronto, but you can't just wait until you are in Toronto, you have to do some searching now, contact the sps, provide the information they want from you to screen you, and then wait to be selected (or not). This is not a pickup joint or bar, and what works for someone in that situation is quite different. It is a fairly common misconception that the clients only have to show up with cash to get whatever they want. Read the recommendation section, and the advertisements, and the websites, and especially the Etiquette pages on websites. You are a university student so I expect you to know how to do proper research and studying before you 'take a test' of contacting an sp lol.

Cheating, not cheating. Why does it matter? I find the some of the implicit and explicit moral judgments implied in the word "cheating" simply not appropriate for this board. We don't pass judgements on people's sexual preferences, so I'm not sure why it sometimes seems as if we do around marital status. Yes, in an ideal world it would be great if I could tell my wife. But I'm afraid I simply don't live in that world. So yes, its cheating, being unfaithful, running around behind her back .... all of those things! Absolutely. But, please, leave judgements aside. I've been with my wife for 25 years. And yes, I see SPs ... but that doesn't mean I need to be told about fidelity, for in so many other ways I am faithful, loyal, trustworthy, dependable, and everything society (and my wife) demands of me, and wants from me, as a husband. Porthos

To everyone here. Over the past weeks I've posted about my dad's cancer. I have received in many PM's, comments, posts etc words of sympathy and support. I just wanted to say thank you all for your support. It really is appreciated This board is much more than an escort board, it truly is a community Again to all of you out in CERBLand, your collective support is appreciated more than you know Thank you RG

What happens in threads like this is that inevitably a hierarchy of hobbying becomes created. First, there are the single guys who hobby, many of whom will post that if they were in a committed relationship of course they wouldn't hobby (judgement number 1) Second, there is the assertion that it isn't cheating if there is consent (of course not ... that seems self-evident), so this is the second level of the hierarchy. Married but given permission, and implicit in this is the suggestion that married guys should seek that permission, to legitimate their hobbying. (judgement 2) And finaly there are those left ... the "cheaters". (judgement number 3) I'm not saying anyone is making those judgements explicitly or deliberately. But in response to the suggestion that if people feel "judged" they should just not read or participate in the thread I would say this. Any discussion of the question of cheating, which I agree is a useful one, must also include a discussion of the judgments that we, as society and individuals, make about questions of infidelity. So I reject completely the assertion that comments about judgments as they relate to these issues shouldn't be part of the discussion. Of course it's cheating. I know that. End of story on that as far as I can see. I cheat! I try to do it in a way that doesn't harm my SO and my family. And as RG says, part of the issue is exactly the term ... cheating. It is value laden. that is why we call ourselves hobbyists, just as the ladies call themsleves service providers. To find relatively more value-neutral terms. But, just as we've had various discussions of the moral judgements societies make about ladies who work in this business (and about terms like prostitute, whore, etc) we also need to lay bare our own judgements and presuppositions about the men who participate. And let's face it, us cheaters are probably the largest group of clients in this business. Interestingly, I frequently feel the implicit and underpinning judgments about "cheating" and infidelity when reading threads like this. However, I have absolutely never felt the least bit of any sort of judgment from any lady I've ever seen. To paraphrase my good friend RG: Just some random Sunday morning thoughts from a cheater who is completely at peace with the decisions he's made in his life. Porthos

I have not been on very much of late and it seems as if there have been intermittent server issues. The intermittent things are the most difficult to find and fix! I have never written this before but have said it to a number of people. This site is pretty amazing and is very sophisticated in the way that it functions. It is user friendly, easy to navigate, and thanks to Mod is responsive to suggestions from our community of members. To the Mod, a good luck with the server issues and a huge thanks for the work that you do on our behalf, clients and SP's alike.

Without knowledge, there cannot possibly be consent. Therefore, cheating.

Just a note to all people who have created a social group(s). Personally I'm liking these new changes and I'm really digging the fact that we can now create multiple threads going on within a social group. Very cool stuff!! One new option I'm particularly fond of is that you can add a "Group Icon" picture (ie, profile pic) identifying your group which makes it much easier to spot....and also makes it more aesthetically pleasing to the eye, making it more likely that a non-member who is just randomly scrolling through groups, may be more inclined to check it out and see what it's all about! Emily J has added one to her Oral Lovers group and I have added ones to the groups which I have created. You simply go to your group's main page, scroll to the bottom and you will see the "Edit Group" option. Scroll down and you will see "Edit Group Icon" where you will have the option of uploading a pic. Keep in mind though that I believe these "Group Icons" are visible to all cerb members.....I could be wrong but I believe this to be the case even for the private groups.....so the group icon pic should be cerb friendly (ie, no genitals or sexual acts being portrayed). Happy cerb-ing everyone!

Day 3 of my back being out truly sucks. Training new employees means little downtime,but I was able to spend 3 hours on the floor yesterday afternoon. Chiro again Monday and spending tonight and tomorrow night on the hardwood floor with muscle relaxants, anti inflammatories, and moonshine. How did I do it? I jumped out of a skidsteer, my dog came running over to me, I leaned over to pet her, and kapow.....out it went.

The best chocolate I ever had was from a famous chocolatier in Brugges, Belgium. I can't recall the name now, but there was a giant dinosaur in the window made entirely from chocolate.

Getting an email and just not knowing what to respond even after many times of reading it. Being confused sucks!!

WOW! Pedestal? Meet Cinderella! You really shouldn't base your opinion on the provider's donation requirement but on your interaction(ie emails etc) with her and perhaps maybe her recos as well as her interactions on the board. This ain't Hollywood baby lol but I am sure that should you feel more comfortable with a higher donation, no one will object to a generous gift!

If a person is in a relationship and does not the permission of the other person, then it is cheating. Personally I don't find a lot of depth to it since it is a pretty black and white area to me.

I was surprised to discover that there was no CERB social group dedicated to the fine art of Oral Pleasure! :icon_surprised: This is a travesty of course... So I created one for my fellow Oral Enthusiasts to come together to share discussions, pictures, links, techniques and recommendations. :D http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/group.php?groupid=167 I made it a private group (invite only) so that we can be as naughty as we like and also share x-rated pictures too! ;) You can post here, or PM me if you would like an invite!! :D

Please join me in sending best wishes and a speedy recovery to Kianna who was involved in a multiple roll-over car accident on New Years Eve. She lost control of her car on ice and smashed into a pole, not before rolling a few times. Firefighters had to extract her through the windshield. Luckily her passenger was able to open their door and get out. It's a miracle she walked away with only a scratch on her forehead, but she is VERY sore and no doubt will be for weeks to come. Kianna asked me to post this for her. "Thanks to everyone who sent me a New Year's greeting. I did receive them, I just wasn't able to respond".

This looks like it could be fun....

Yeah... that's great if group owners remember to do it before they leave :) The problem, alas, is that I suspect that frequently won't happen, and for many it's already too late. One other thing which I've just discovered and I'm very happy about - you can now subscribe to the discussions within the groups, so you get notifications when they've been updated (and you can also, by implication, skip groups where there's nothing new). Which is awesome.

Emily J and Il Rae :D

Sweet I had no ideas! Lover of Bdsm and Alt Women have been updated :)

Mighty Finn seems to be inadvertently missed. I like MF for his sense of humour. His jokes are a positive fun contribution to this community And I like MrNice2 because he is like his name...nice RG

Maybe they were closed for the holidays :) strippers have families too :D

Really can't do anything but echo the good advice the OP has received in this thread. Don't equate donation rate with service and don't equate youth with desirability. Donation rates are as much about defining the nature of a SPs client base, rather than the nature of the service provided. And exclusivity only lasts for the period of time you have booked. Make sure you understand how the time you book will be spent. If you book 2 plus hours, it won't be spent in non-stop sexual activity. There will be lots of talking, enjoying a glass of wine, snuggling, etc. In short, even if you book a PSE it won't be like a porno ... where scenes go on forever and no one ever takes a break. Many SPs will be leary of a young fellow with too much money to burn. Expectations are too likely to be out of line with the reality of the situation. Porthos

this was copied from a gag site and meant to be humorous and not intended to offend anyone.

A boobie pic to make you think. Women should be able to go out and wear (or in this case, not wear) anything they damn well please and not be blamed for a damn thing! (except maybe the occasional fender bender :p)

There's a negativity to the word cheating, but it's still a very clear definition. The question was really objective. A parallel could be made about lying. If you willingly say something you know is not true, then you're lying. There's also a negativity about the word lying. However, most people would aggree that it's the right thing to do in some case. A doctor telling little kids their mother didn't suffer before dying from cancer. An undercover cop lying to a criminal organisation. Just my POV about the issue of judging/putting a negative label based on that question.

Cristy, I'm going to step out of reality here. Imagine me as the yummiest, smoothest, dark chocolate, naked-beef-bunny-with-the-biggest-boner present stuffed in your stocking. And I'm a life sized chocolate beef bunny too. Good luck without ripping your stocking apart! HA HA haaaa.... Ok, so where do you start? xo J.

Thanks for saying this Porthos, I completely agree with you. I would not want any other members of the board to feel that others here are passing judgement on them.

In the past, whenever I'd drop in on a Saturday she was never there. Lately it seems she's been in more often than not on Saturday afternoons. Oh well...

Well I couldn't find escort of my liking until 2:00 pm so headed to a strip bar instead. Barefax is always dead saturdays daytime so Barbs was the ideal candidate. It was my first time at Barbs since November and as I found out later they have a few new dancers there. Around 2:30 pm it was very quiet. 4 guys and 3 girls but on my arrival, Jenny was on stage (Jenny lovers where were you guys. She was free almost all this afternoon). The other two were Mia (attractive) and Rosaline. At 4:00 a lot more guys (about 10 to 15) and 5 or 6 girls). Rosaline came to me and I had some CR dances with her. About 15 minutes in the CR with her (and we were the only ones in the room) and she said 5 songs. Maybe as I wasn't counting. I have reviewed her before. I then ordered wine and got a small glass of red wine (about 40% full or 60% empty and some attitude from the new small brunette waitress). So they wonder why the bar is so empty lol. My second glass of wine order had about 30% wine in it and 70% empty!!!!!. A $20 bottle of wine can serve 15+ such glasses at least lol. No more wine for me at Barbs thanks. I watched Jenny Mia and Rosalina on stage and it was enjoyable. Then came in a very young looking new dancer by the name of Allie. Yes she has been dancing for 2 weeks and as soon as she arrived a guy was after her. Once she started dancing, I moved to the stage and she smiled at me and said after her stage dance she would like to sit with me as she has no friends in the bar. Wow thank you God. Once she was back to the stage for final dance I think she was told not to talk to customers while on the stage as she was very quiet, only smiling ..... I went to the CR with Allie after her stage dance. She sat on my legs and didn't take off her panty or skirt. I had 2 dances with her but it was a real pleasure to touch that lovely soft pale skin and hug that very cute face (no kissing). In spite of being relatively conservative I still highly recommend her, She is a real cutie and she said she chooses her customers. And she was so busy and in demand that she could never come and sit with me later lol as per her earlier promise. Then I had a tall very slim dancer by the name of Rebecca dancing for me. Relatively open minded. Smal boobs but sexy. Soft pale skin. Had a good time with her too. When I asked for her permission to review her she said I can only if I am going to say nice things about her!!!. She is cute, slender and open minded. Maybe a bit on the mature side (for me lol). Later I saw a very tall pale brunette on stage then I moved to the stage again. Her name was Jordan. Very sexy, pretty young lady with very pale skin and sexy body. She came to me after her stage dance and we headed to the CR. It was absolute pleasure to touch her very pale soft skin and her feminine body. She is relatively open minded and gave a good show of her sexy parts too while dancing in the CR. Jordan was very honest with the number of songs when I asked her how many so lots of credit to her. My time with Jordan was the most enjoyable of all above described dances. Her very pale soft skin reminded me of my most favorite, Diabla who wasn't at Barbs daytime today. Afterwards it was time to come home. The cutie Allie was still with customers so I headed home. Just missed Diabla as I learned later that she started at 7:00 pm!!!. In summary loved the new dancers almost all attractive pale brunettes and I think they liked me too. Not very impressed with barbs stuff.

Doesn't the word cheat imply that there is deception? In that case, if you are deceiving your SO in order to see an escort, then it is cheating. Remember also you are spending shared income on an sp. I know people have their own money, etc etc, and one is not necessarily dependent on the other, but if the sex part doesn't matter then lying about where the money is going could be considered another way of cheating. There may be different moralities involved, which I agree with another poster, don't bother me, nor do they concern me. I don't put that same requirement on people, in other words to stay faithful sexually. There are many ways to stay faithful, just as there are many ways to be unfaithful. You can neglect your SO in ways that cause far more damage to their self esteem and happiness than just not having sex with them. It is quite a cycle.

I consider some of the finest chocolates I've ever had to be those made in Newfoundland at the Newfoundland Chocolate Company. Right downtown on Duckworth street in St. John's. Simply amazing, and you can shop online. http://www.newfoundlandchocolatecompany.com/ It is very cruel having this thread so close to that darned "losing weight" thread! Porthos

Some ass saying my reviews are fake-shill accounts!! Will it ever end

Kudos to Mod for everything associated with this fabulous site. A community exists and thrives due to his efforts. I think he needs to set something up like Cowboy Kenny has, so that we can buy him a beer! Porthos

I lean toward the other end of the hair spectrum. For those ladies who go bald, does it have to be a regular, daily shave or something like a once a week task? How does one get to be soooo smooth? I've seen some immaculate baldness in my day. Right up close and comfortable. Not a hint of stubble and no road rash either. Wow. Impressive. A freshly shorn beav is a thing of beauty.

In the Pot Of Gold, the Bordeaux Cream. There were two on each tier and my sisiter and I had fights over them!

Yeah... just looking at the shape of these things, I can see how the ladies could become addicted to them. Akshully, hang on... how big are they? Just asking dietary reasons, of course... :)

One thing I've noticed about the St. John's section is that there is a lack of information on the local MA's. Well, here's my recommendation that will hopefully jump-start the conversation. I recently had the good fortune to visit Studio Aura in the west-end of St. John's where I was lucky enough to come into contact with Lolita. And what luck it was that I got to see her!! But first, a little preamble. As some of you may know, I'm fairly new to the hobby. I've seen a few amazing SPs in the past year, and would not trade these experience for anything! I have found myself however, spending more than I can afford as of late. I've always been a bit curious about the local massage parlours, but a bit nervous to try. I figured that seeing an MA might hold me over, while not breaking the bank. About a year ago my first ever experience in the hobby was a 30 minute session at one of the other massage parlours in town, and it was nothing more than a wham-bam thank you ma'am sort of experience. No sensuality, no passion, just jack him off and go. So this only added to the nervousness that I felt about seeing another MA. Finally decided to give it a try again, this time at Studio Aura. When I entered and knocked on the inside door, I was greeted by the petite Lolita. I briefly met the other girl that was on at the time, but decided to go with Lolita, and boy was that a good decision!! She is about 5'4", about 110 lbs with short, dark, spiky hair and about a dozen tattoos. Some of her tattoos are really works of art; amazing intricacy. I said that I wanted a 45 minute session, with the option of extending to an hour. First she asked if I wanted to start by massaging her or having her massage me. I decided to start with her massaging me, and that in itself was fantastic! While not professionally trained, she certainly knows how to work the back, leg and neck muscles and the glutes. Tremendously relaxing! After about 15 minutes, she suggested that I massage her. Wanting to take things a bit slow, I decided to massage her back first. She seemed genuinely pleased with the job I was doing, even though I had no idea what I was at! After a while I told her to flip over, and the grope session started. I tried to keep my hands from focusing entirely on her privates, but it wasn't easy. Before long, our hands were wandering into each other's nether regions. At this time I plunked down the extra cash for the hour long session. Starting off she said that the only boundaries were no penetration (which I completely understood) and no kissing (which I was quite disappointed with). At multiple times during the last half hour I professed my admiration for her body (ie. "Damn you're some cute") and my desire to give her a big smooch. Sensing my desire, she did her utmost to tease the crap out of me by rubbing our noses together and offering her cheek and neck for me to make out with. It was as close to a GFE that you could get without actually being a GFE. So much intimacy. So much passion. And you couldn't wipe that smile off her face. If she wasn't actually enjoying it, she deserves an Oscar!! Needless to say I had a fantastic time, and I will definitely repeat my visit. Lolita has only worked there for a month or so, so her pictures aren't on the website, but she has worked there before. She told me that she is working her way through university, so guys, make use of her while you can! She is a treasure!!

I think where people find a blurry line is that they consider a physical act not AS bad a an emotional affair. And although some mates might be less hurt by a one night meetup with an escort vs an affair with substantial feelings, it does not change the definition of cheating. Essentially cheating is crossing the level of intimacy acceptable (or discussed as acceptable, even though they may later change their mind) by both partners. So if you are having sex with an escort and your better half is there watching/participating/enjoying, then no it is not. If she is unaware and has expressed her feelings against it. (Or if none given, one would assume they would be against) Cheating means crossing the line. Whatever line that might be. Kissing another girl, flirting (some couples are more uptight than others) all of these could be cheating. It's not the act itself, it's the act as to where it stands in your relationship's agreed upon intimacy level with others. It's like asking if driving 100km/h is speeding. Can't answer that without knowing the speed limit of the road you are on. And the answer differs depending on that road.

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I never saw an owl in flight. I never even imagined it.

I've done both the hosting in an apartment and hotels Hotels can be expensive when used on a consistent basis; but it also offers you the opportunity to limit the amount of days that you work a 24hr schedule. When finding an incall location it is wisest to not use your own home for safety reasons obviously. Mind you some girls do and have no issues, but if u are "new" to this playing it as safe as possible is wise. You'll also feel much more comfy and concentrated on enjoying your work as well. Imo That said when looking for an apartment or condo make time to meet your neighbors. I have always found that if you are polite and nice with a sweet and simple cover story will make you and ur traffic welcome in the area. What most ppl care about is trouble. If you can show others ur not trouble (drugs/drama/aggressive or unruly clients) then 9/10 that no one will care what happens @ur place. From person experience I've worked for agencies that have an open door policy with the local police that offered in calls @the time. It was not rare to see a uniformed officer in the lobby every month just checking the ages for the girls and a quick look in common areas just to see it was on the up and up (no drugs, slave trade). So thunder bay is kind to us providers and don't bother us unless we give them a reason. The first thing we all need to remember is that we are not doing anything illegal. I'm pretty well versed with this city (11 years) if you'd like plz feel free to msg me if you want any advice :) I believe that all service providers should be wise about what they are doing so that they are as safe and HAPPY as possible. Welcome to CERB love <3

Lets take a road trip. We can split the gas....lol

I thought I'd start a thread with some FYI's for the gentlemen...Ladies and gents alike, please add in some thoughts/experiences as well! 1. You cannot just jump right in and jam on. If you're scared to warm up the oven with your fingers (or a toy), forget about baking your bread in there. 2. Lube goes a long way. No, your spit is not enough. 3. I don't care if you're only 5 inches long, you also happen to be 4 inches wide! NOT GONNA HAPPEN! 4. You're right, I can't get pregnant that way. But I can come across an array of STDs and other infections. JIMMY UP! I know most of you will see the above info as "DUH, isn't all of that obvious?" It is not obvious to all. I've had to "educate" a number of people recently which is what inspired this thread. Many people seem very intrigued by the topic, but know nothing about it whatsoever. Hope we get a nice discussion going on here and we can all maybe learn a little something!

In my experience, it's best to meet an SP and establish trust through a few previous encounters before moving to Greek. And I'd tell you not to talk to Cleo or Alexxxis about it, and to never contact them at all about anything - only because I want to keep their schedules completely clear for me ;) !

tough to limit the list to three but here it goes: Dorinda Bloom, AtasteofEve, and SinCindy

Christmas Eve a family gathering when my nephews could be there. Turkey all the fixins, games, drinks and lots of fun Christmas Day was gift opening with my young ones at my Ma and Pa's. Games, Turkey all the fixins, drinks and lots more fun. Boxing day on my way to the city and engine died on one of my trucks. Boo! ahh well. Got picked up and went to work instead, regroup, have a turkey bunwich ... find a buggy and head to the city again for a most wonderful visit with Miss Dorinda ! Merry Sexmas to me :D Then to the strippers for a bit, couple beers and home for guess what......turkey leftovers at Ma and Pa's !! I am gonna so have the urge to go gobble gobble or cluck cluck soon if this keeps up !! It was awesome but now back to work for 15 days straight cause my partner is off to Mexico :( where it is warm, there is no snow, no work, no frustration, no tops sometimes, and lots and lots of scenery and bikinis and snorkeling and bikinis and parasailing and bikinis and rum and tequila !! it's okay partner I will stay here and freeze my frickin giblets off for ya ;) hahaha

I had an amazing first visit with Dorinda last evening during her first visit to Sault Ste. Marie. I can only hope she makes a return trip. She is a beautiful, girl next door that will make you feel like you're the only guy left on earth. She's sexy, outgoing, and will put you at ease from the first embrace. I was really excited to finally meet her and my only regret was that I didn't request a longer encounter. She certainly didn't rush our time together though. If she is planning to be in your city I strongly recommend that you book some time with her. She's a very special lady.

Maybe not sexy but more practical, these have wipers RG