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MC... we take these threads seriously. Boundaries are very important.

I'm wondering if there is often a link when men who pay for it and have those feelings like they are ashamed/not good enough often think the same as the SP and that she doesn't like her job?? I had one person I see which isn't too often say to me not too long ago "Don't you wish you could quit this job?" What? Are you implying that this is all I can do and I have no other options? To me, this is an insult. It's simply not true and have left this business a number of times to do other things. I always find my way back here not because I couldn't handle other things but because I want to be here. Most people here know that I speak my mind and trust me, I'm not going to do something that I don't want to do! If I hated this job, I would have been gone long ago. It takes a special kind of woman to do this job and I am one of those women. I am a very stubborn and strong willed person! lol. I've been around for a while and am good at what I do. If you don't find me here one day, you will know I've become bored and decided to go another route which I have done in the past. The hours are great, the pay, each day is always different and I call the shots. So I often wonder when some men come to see SPs with negative feelings, do they automatically assume that we don't like what we're doing either? I realize not every hobbyist feels this way but due to the secrecy and taboos of the business, many may feel that this is a negative thing. I've met some great men and I've never made them feel bad because they were paying for it and they never made me feel like I was just doing this because I had no other choice. There are choices in life and this is one I made on my own accord which I don't feel bad about. We as service providers are here to satisy needs and urges and you pay us to leave without any b.s. I would say we are easier to deal with than one night stands or having a high maitenance girlfriend who rarely puts out. And our services are much less expensive in the long run without the headaches or complications as opposed to going the traditional route of getting laid. You only live once so enjoy it while you can! :)

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man donate the present contents of his Pooning Fund towards the purchase of a new laptop for his daughter. She and her husband make modest incomes. Her old laptop died and her prospects for a replacement are dim. Food and mortgage before laptops. She is starting an at-home business this summer and is trying to work out how she will do the records and bookkeeping. She doesn't know she is getting this tomorrow. This is going to be fun! :) Plus Papa gets to learn how to set up Windows 8!

Bars? I'm sure you can pick up as many escorts in a bar as you can in church. Just saying...lol

The biggest things are crossing someone's boundaries and I don't mean in a sexual kind of way. I think you have to let things fall naturally into place or you're going to seem like an eagar beaver which can be annoying or someone with an agenda which gets the spidey senses going with the ladies. To be honest and just a little constructive criticism here ( not a personal attack) is that you've mentioned things in passing about the ladies in your posts like when such and such a lady told you something. She said that in private and I'm a firm believer that it should never be relayed to anyone else let alone on an internet forum. If you want to piss off an SP and never see her again, this is one of the biggest things you can do. Once you write a recco of that lady and the nice things that transpired, whatever private convos or services that happened that day, should never be spoken of again. The only exception is when someone is asking for a good SP to spend time with. If you speak too fondly about a lady over and over, many may think you are a 'shiller' for her and then others members may begin to question this. Whatever conversations I have with clients in private have never been posted in a thread which I very much appreciate. If a woman is comfortable with you and trusts you, she will open up to you. If she finds all her dets splashed across threads on Cerb, I know if it were me, I'd never be seeing that person again! Personal boundaries and another person's privacy are of the utmost importance in this business and without that you don't have any credibility or trust. No one is out to get anyone here and while we realize you have come into a hobby that you enjoy and are excited to share things but please don't share with us that a lady feel comfortable to tell you her real name. This is not necessary and can be harmful to her and her business. Being too inquisitive will make an SP feel uncomfortable and want to head for the hills. Don't ask too many questions and should you two begin to develop a "business relationship" and the operative word here is "business", then over time she will share things but please whatever you do, don't ask things like it's the Spanish Inquisition. It's the number one pet peeve of providers and while you seem like an open person, please understand that the person you are spending time with may not be. A little goes a long way in this business.

Who the hell invented monogamy anyway ? That concept never existed all through mankind's history untill someone, a few centuries ago, decided the one and only one hypocricy. It defies all research and all statistcs. Humans are naturally polygamous. Dunno why somepeople still have an issue with that. Some natural people despite that they are married and have extra marital affairs; They will still seek variety and pay for it. Otherwise we wouldn't have the SP profession in the makeup of human society. One shoul recognize nature, accept it and enjoy living with it.

I have followed this discussion and told myself I was not going to get involved in it simply to be on the safe side of the board. I understand what mister_crufty is going through in his marriage because I am also in the same boat, I love my wife very much and we are totally compatible except for sex. Let me try to explain a bit more without going into details. Something in our relationship happened over 10 years ago and she became depressed (its not something I did) and refused sex completely. I figured I would give her time to get back to normal but as time went by every thing stayed the same. We had a great sex life, 2-3 times a day anywhere in the house, outside, in the pool, in the car, public park etc. When all of this stopped for me I tried my best to cope with it without leaving her and this "hobby" gave me the solution to my dilemma. Nothing about her changed except for the sex, she is a very very attractive women and it HURTS me not being able to have her to myself like I used to. She is starting to give me intimacy now but it took forever to get here. There is more but those are confidential things I don't want to share with all of you. We love each other and I know I would have a difficult time to find someone to give me has much as she does, we have a long time relationship and that is worth so much to me. Sorry if I made this a long story for you all to read. Don't be judging anyone and if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. That's the rules here. To finish I just want to say to answer the OP's question, Yes I feel bad but I have needs like everyone here and I cope with it and take in the best from what I do in my life. My decision I have to live with the consequences if she finds out.

Hello Gentlemen, I sent Nova a friendly message regarding this thread and she is now a member:icon_biggrin:. I don't know her but she seems very nice and was flattered to hear you were asking about her, so I'm quite sure you will welcome her and treat her well!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=80190 Big Hugs, Lexy

I don't think that these generalizations apply to most of us, Harrywatch. Speaking for myself, as one who has had more than "many" partners, I have no difficulty whatever enjoying the sex. I often enjoy it a great deal. Perhaps this is because I take time to get to know the men who visit me and to create an atmosphere where we can be comfortable together and our mutual pleasure increased. In fact, I think that time and experience has enhanced my ability to enjoy everything that goes on between us.

It is believed that men invented monogamy, as a way to control and know if the kids their women have are indeed their own. A natural maternal based society has women having multiple lovers in order to have healthy babies. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/10.19/01_monogamy.html

imkrissy for sure! Large breasts and very sexy.

My food being cross contaminated with shellfish on January 17th landing me in the hospital for almost 2 weeks. Worst and scariest allergic reaction to date. The few times I leave out the house for dinner without taking my first line of defense Benadryl this happens but I'm lucky to always have an epi-pen on hand. All better now:icon_biggrin:!!

I vote for option #2. It would be good for the "subject" to meet potential clients too :D

This is the most WTF thing I've read for quite a long time...

Only 1 week until the social. Who's excited?

Cleo, perhaps?

i know that people prefer to think of sps and escorts as just a set of acronyms provided, but yes, indeed a lot of us do a lot more than just a bj.

The same goes for early mornings. As a guy who works the night shift I appreciate a provider that can see me early in the morning when I get off work and have found a few that are happy to if properly notified. If your "play" time falls outside the accepted norm, you can't expect to have your choice of available providers at the last minute. I always call a day or two in advance to set up an appointment and usually call to confirm the morning of just to make sure they're up. Most girls will make time for you if you show them that you respect their time enough to per-book! And of course, make sure you SHOW UP for your appointment!

Sort of reads like a bad episode of Oprah..... It's all about taking personal responsibility for one's actions. Peace MG

I just blame the dog and carry on. This works even if there is no dog.

If I were you I would stay away from CL, period.

1. Whats your "real" name? 2. How many men have you been with today? 3. So, have you been busy? 4. Is your real hair color/breast size/nails/tan real? 5. How did you get into the business? 6. Do you have a boyfriend/SO/partner? 7. Why don't you go Indie? 8. Can I stand you on your head while you give me a bj? 9. Why do you have to put the condom on now? 10. Can I have a tour of your place? 11. Who is that in the picture? 12. Are the sheets clean? 13. Did you shower? 14. Tell me the difference between the 1hr and 2hr option besides time, I might want to readjust our session. 15. Is that what you are wearing? 16. I thought you would be _________ (taller, shorter, skinnier, fatter, younger, older) 17. I brought rolled change for part of my donation, is that a problem? (paid $250 in rolled pennies and dimes) 18. Do you own this place? 19. You should take yoga. 20. Have you ever considered having your breasts done? 21. Do you have a bong? 22. Can you drive me home afterwards? 23. I have a friend in the car, is it ok if he waits in your livingroom? 24. How many children do you have? 25. Do you REALLY enjoy it or are you an awesome actress? 26. Can we "just hang out" cause I think we have a real connection. 27. What are the perks if I become a good regular? 28. Can I leave my shoes and socks on for the whole visit? 29. Whats the weirdest request you've ever had? 30. Has anyone ever hurt you during an appointment? 31. Does your family know what you do? And my all time favorite! 32. Your such a smart woman, why don't you get a real job? These are all questions I have been asked personally and they range from mildly annoying to WTF is he thinking! cat

There is a girl promoting her self on craigs_____ for the freddy area by the name of leeane she is underage!!!!! I askedd her age said she was 18 than 19 than that she she eft her Id in montreal than ontario than i google her phone number linking it to a kijiji ad posted in december for. 16 yr old girl i contacted that ad just to doube check same email was used to respond which means she is the same poster. First time i ever flagge an ad and i deleted the pics she sent. so be careful people including sps i get id'd qlot i havent aged in about 15 years lol and an sp told me recently a 16 yr tried booking an appt with her if she didnt screen him who knows.what ould have happened.

I stumbled across this on youtube...lol. That's fucking craaaazzzzzy!!! Hahaha. My friend and I can't stop saying it now. LMAO!

I noticed that in all reccomendations that a hobbyist writes, there is no link to the lovely ladies profiles. You have to go search for her name. I for one would like to have a direct link to her profile, does anyone else feel this way?

And what does that say about the men who assume the ladies they see don't like what they are doing. They likely go through with the encounter anyway, even though in their mind the lady they are having sex with doesn't like what she is doing. What guy would want to have an intimate encounter with a woman who doesn't want to be there. Hope that is coming out right The ladies I've met are intelligent, fun, and are able to make me feel special. And it is a special lady who can be a professional companion. I've never got the sense the lady didn't want to be there, and I was never made to feel bad for seeking the company of a paid companion. The services, the companionship the ladies provide are appreciated by this gentleman. And you all have my utmost respect for providing the no strings companionship that you do...so a big THANK YOU Good post Nicolette RG

I'm very sorry to hear this. May you find peace in this most difficult time and my condolences to you.

That was a class act, good to see cooperation instead of competition Good karma for u!

I've had a couple of highlights today, and the day's still young! First, I met a very nice guy this morning who enjoyed kissing and caressing my belly as much as I love having it done! Heaven!! And just now, my daughter told me a hilarious story about my grandson. He was in the bath last night, and they let him play while they sat in the other room where they could see and hear and get to him, need be. They're sitting there, and they suddenly hear him yell: "GRRRRR!! WEE-WEE!!??!!" They look at each other. Her husband calls in to ask what's wrong. "MY WEE WEE! IT WON'T GO DOWN!!" After picking themselves up off the floor laughing, they go in to investigate. The little guy is standing there in the tub with a raging hard on. My son-in-law tried to explain that it was okay, sometimes wee-wees do that. It's normal. "BUT I DON'T WANT IT UP!!!" I figure, give him a few decades! ;)

It never hurts to cross reference your info with other sites. But if you are new to the hobby, it may be wise to stick to this bored. As it is tried, tested and true. New hobbiest are often times tricked as they are not familar with the industry and who is who. NOT TO SAY that ONLY ladies here are worth it meeting...but if you can not cross reference the ladies info then please go in with eyes wide open just as this poster did. You did the correct thing in double checking her age and contact info, good work! I wonder if she is working on her own will? This is a concern with such a young lady!! Perhaps the LE should be notified? I would hate to think she could be a victum of child abuse in anyway:(

I'm good for all of them but the two lingerie items. I've had a lot of time to work through that list. :)

Thank you DrLove. I'm actually doing much better and haven't annoyed anyone too much in quite a while. Sucks being a socially awkward penguin. I'm always so nervous when I meet someone new and I tend to babble when I'm nervous. I thought it might be nice to have some 'canned' conversation starters to fall back on if I feel like I'm too nervous. Either way, I'm hijacking this thread...it's not about what TO say, it's about what NOT to say. And hey, I just learned a new one! Offtopic jokes in a serious thread! Sorry all.

MC, the best way to gauge yourself is to remember that a client/sp relationship is a symbiotic one based on mutual respect. That said, each party has an underlying responsibility to the other not to offend, or put them into an uncomfortable/compromising position. Therefore, heed Samantha's advice and be cognizant of unspoken boundaries endemic to the situation at hand and you'll do fine.

I think it's safe to say nobody really wants to go back in time and actually live in the times they're citing; I'm rather fond of modern medicine after all. :) Plus the marriage equality thing, and the like. But other eras can lay claim to something that's missing or absent from ours; it's all a matter of perspective. Plus, the cost of our elaborate digital lives is the eroding of personal contact. When your community is virtual, it's less inclined to be local; how many of us know more people more deeply on other continents than we do within 500m of our home? And e-mails aren't handwritten letters, each a little work of everyday art. Losses, for sure. Outweighed on the whole by gains, I think... but losses nonetheless. Hence, perhaps, this thread. ;)

Probably better than being on for 7 years and having only one post to your name. :)

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This is an awesome reply Emily. Very nice. Many ladies set out baseline standards in their age requirements and advertise as such...and as Emily stated maturity and respect is a huge part of that reason. I do not believe however that it will be written in stone in many cases that you must be "35 plus" for example. The ladies need to feel comfortable and feel safe and hopefully excited to open that door. How us fella's correspond and also come across as genuine no matter of age determines that comfort level. As was stated odds are you will never be asked. As a hobbyist...age doesn't remotely matter to me or your life experiences because of your age. It about maturity, respect and fun genuine personalities. How you come across in your ads, posts and most importantly our correspondence over time. I also have a comfort level as well. Perhaps off topic there. Summed up...IMO...if a young fella is respectful, courteous and comes across as wanting to have a genuine intimate encounter and enjoy the moment you will get a date easily and quickly......If you come across as a young fella who wants to strictly have sex "as fast as you can and as many times as you can" then you may have to look a little longer for a date.

It is indeed a fetish and there are those that seek it out. Years ago I had a client that was a master at making girls expel. It made me nuts because the entire session was just a long series of queefs and I would giggle throughout it which kills the mood for me. I finally offloaded him to an agency because having my uterus filled with air once a week was a little much and my instinct said it wasn't healthy. I'm not sure if that's a medical fact but when my little voice says something I listen; even if the medical community doesn't back her up. I don't worry about it happening as it is unavoidable in some positions and if a playmate gets offended if I do it, then he's in the wrong place with the wrong person! I look at queefs like I do burps, gas and hiccups. They happen to everyone at some point and can be a catalyst for a good giggle break. If you can't laugh at these things, then you are way too serious to play at my house... cat

Prebooking helps a provider to ensure she will have the energy needed to give you the type of experience you won't forget anytime soon. Leaving an evening encounter til last minute decreases the chance you will find an available provider, and possibly finding one who is available but tired yet still accepts the request. Which could lead to dissapointment or lackluster encounter. Prebooking helps eliminate the majority of these concerns and many providers appreciate a man with a plan! (when permitting) If you do pre book and something changes, do let her know as soon as possible. Hopefully this will help you find, arrange and experience one of your most memorable experiences to date!

Oh my god...I mention that in my alphabet poem: Q is for queef...some times kitties burp. I love them...I think they're hilarious. I had an ex with whom I could use certain angles (legs in the air) to basically make them on demand, like making fart noises with your armpit. We would laugh and laugh...she said it tickled. Good times. Thanks for the memory.

It's not a waste if you realise what you have been missing, make changes and start enjoying life the way you want... One of my favorite quotes: Your present circumstances don't determine where you can go; they merely determine where you start. -Nido Qubein Cheers xox

What I would do is contact her, tell her you only have one reference. At the same time, provide other verification information (real name, board handle confirmed by pm, phone number, email address) She may have other screening methods in addition to that Good luck RG

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=416333#post416333 Don't feel bad. Everyone falls in love with her at some point. Just read all her reviews.

This thread is the perfect example why screening clients can never be overstated. S'all I have to say.

There is a section of the Criminal Code which deals with this.

To the wonderful men of PEI I understand the hobbyists of CERB use the pm system to share both positive and negative experiences regarding an SP which I fully believe that it is a vital need when choosing a provider and deciding where your hard earned money goes. My issue with this though is when you start discussing the details of an encounter that are shared between the provider and the hobbyist. Sometimes with a client who I feel comfortable with I sometimes provide services that I would not noramally share with someone I have just met or even if I have met them several times I still may not offer this service for whatever reason I choose I have the right to do so. I am unsure of who it is but there is only a select few of who it could be but I am very hurt and disappointed after an encounter I had here tonight. There is obviously some messages being exchanged back and forth between new hobbyists and regular ones, discussing the events of our date and telling the new hobbyists about things that had gone on during our session. This service is NOT Listed on my website nor have I ever advertised that I would provide this, but tonight I had a first time client attempt to do something that I was definitely not comfortable with. At first I played it cute and told him no I don't do this because sometimes men are not aware in what you are comfortable with - although it would've been nice for him to ask first. He continued to do so over and over until I firmly said NO. In my mind the date was ruined but I was willing to give it one more try and yet again an attempt was made. I stood up and said firmly the date is over and I'm asking you to leave. Only than did he realise how serious I was about how uncomfortable I was and how apologetic he was only than. This man was a lot bigger than I and during this time I felt extremely uncomfortable about the situation on what would happen with me not wanting to partake in this and he did not continue to try anything else after this thankfully. After he had left he had sent me a message apologizing for not listening and I explained to him why you should always listen when a lady does not want you to do something you stop immediately. The response I received was this : ''Maybe if you told me the first time that if I kept going I would lose my money I would've stopped immediately. I lost out big time'' What that told me was he wasn't sorry that I felt scared, and uncomfortable or that my boundaries were crossed. What that told me was that he was sorry he just lost out on his money and that the only person he felt sorry for was himself. I can't make you fellas do anything - but hopefully in reading this, you can see the result in what happens when you divulge too many personal details regarding a private encounter. Although your intentions may be well, each and every encounter is different the same as no two people are alike. For my own personal take on things, If you wish to discuss me to other members please keep the intimate details private and only discuss the quality of the encounter and your opinion on the experience. Thank you

Came out of the shadows this year... so to avoid sounding like a shill on my first review.... combined three into one try and not seem like I am being one. First: St. Vital Asian: Nice Condo, Last minute, she is no longer here, ok time, she was the one that coo'ed like a pigeon for those who had visited her. :icon_redface: Second: Hana - Asian In the Village Nice Condo/Apartment - Taller than I expected, warmed me up from the outside cold just right. Big head was distracted, affected the little head, Hana was wonderful and lent a helping hand with some gfe cuddles and helped ease my troubles. Lastly: Tessa or Toocutee My most recent friendly visit. Did not find anything true about some of the words spoken previously. Soft, sweet (in both ways), responsive, good conversation. Would repeat. It's like watching a movie gentleman, the reviews help you decide if it is what you are in the mood for, in the end it's all about wether you walk out of it saying to yourself... wow!

Cat's list is just perfect!!! I had to walk away laughing and gripping my sides when I read the "stand on your head" one XD I think it's safe to say (for both the ladies n gents) that if you would feel awkward answering the question your self that you should add it to your own red flag list of faux pas. The information (personal or opinions) that is offered in an encounter should simply be that, offered. I always do my best not to ask questions, but instead steer conversations along as though I have just meet someone randomly that is stimulating. (Which for the most part is kinda what is going on right) As for the "shopping around" questions..... If u want to be sure the girl isn't giving someone else a cut just ask her if she is independent. Simple, factual, and polite :) As for the "feeding a habit" concern....... Take the time to read reviews, ask other members, and msg the lady or call her and feel her out a bit. Most ladies that consider themselves "elite" "professional" "VIP" and so on from my experience are very clean both inside and out. (This means their personalities as well, just say'n) And just to add to Cat's already amazing list "I'm young and good looking, I have no problem getting laid, can I get a discount?" This one blows me away every time. I know we all like a good laugh but come on now :P <3 Posted via Mobile Device

Wow it's great to see this thread, that's for sure! I love the list you posted cat. I laughed at a lot of them, but I'm curious about the business, so there were a few that I might have actually brought up as small talk. hahaha You saved me. :) There's a reference to my post where I mention that I already asked an SP a few questions that weren't taken as well as I'd hoped. The questions that I asked were worded more kindly than this, but basically were: 1. Do you have a substance habit? 2. Do you have a pimp? I know that these questions are pretty brutal and that I should've known better. I just want my donations to go towards giving someone a great happy life, not towards funding habits that are at a destructive level of abuse. It's against everything I've been raised to represent as a human being. I don't ever want to go home wondering if I just helped ruin a life, it's not worth any fun that we could possibly have together. I thought the SP might like the fact that I care about others, but I didn't take the time to look at it from her POV. In the end they were selfish and stereotypical questions and I was trying to easy my own conscience without considering someone elses feelings. Please keep in mind that this was before I came to realize that there was a gigantic difference between the fine members of CERB, and the crazy women who try to wave me down when I drive around the city at night. A week or two ago I even had one obviously high woman on Merivale Rd almost rip me off of my motorcycle as I was slowing down for a turn. Her skeleton body with her huge spaced out eyes and toothless mouth was like something out of a horror movie. You could tell she was desperate for cash for the next hit and looked like a zombie that was desperate for brains. I throttled out of there as fast as I could. If I had NOS I would've used it! hahaha I'm so thankful for this website, it's members, and all of the great professional SPs out there keeping it classy! Vanguard

Well since I pressed the wrong key by mistake and didn't finish writing my note before it got posted, I will say it here: ALL ladies deserve to be treated like ladies and not like a raw piece of meat even if they receive a compensation for their time! In the end, it's all comes down to mutual respect! Thanks RG :)