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I love CERB because this community is based in positivism rather than being negative and attacking fellow members... But today I have to say, I am feeling very sad, and my gorgeous smile that you all like to see has been tainted by false acusations... I dont know where they are comming from all I know Is that I have been falsely acused of posting fake pictures... those who have known me personally know that I do not need to do that, you also know that every member of this community has my sincere respect and friendship... I respect everyone for waht they do and they contribute.., and so I ask the same back.. I respect CERB, and its rules... I am sorry to bring a sad topic to the table but I really need to air it out... because I am close to crying.., as this not only affects me as a proffesional but in a personal level... Love you all... V

This is an OUTRAGE, send them to me and I'll set them straight!

Im sure we can ALL relate to this. Even Men. They seem to leave men out of these campaigns supporting self esteem. Men have heart, brains, and soul too. Only I guess it's less socially acceptable for men to have 'feelings' or 'body image issues'. Either way just wanted to share this link on how self critical people can be on themselves, yet the world sees them differently. ;-) Everyone has SEXY in them ;) Giddy Up!

Well I'm happy to say I've has an overall warm welcoming from all of you here! Although one gentlemen, has told me their opinion that I took quite offensively.. He asked if I was single, and I said yes, and he said if I wasn't would I tell my partner what I was doing? Or anyone else that I choose to be with in my personal life? I told him I wouldn't but it all depends on the situation... He immediately replied that I was being unfair and disrespectful, and that other men had a right to know what I do for safety reasons. Now this really offended me, I think (most) SPs are one of the cleaniest women you can sleep with (we shower right before our appointments, scrub every inch of our body, and get tested more often at the clinic) Also most of our clients do not wish to see street or unclean/healthy girls. It would actually be safer to be with an SP since you can look at her reviews to see if she has any hygiene issues or gave any clients any diseases! I didn't have a chance to reply to this man, but I would tell him exactly this, and that an SP has the right to her privacy! Let me know what you think about this issue!

I don't really rely horoscopes, but in light of things happening today I bring you this. The keyword today is "change." Be flexible because change is good. Hang in there and sail with the events. Tonight, the forecast is for a meaningful evening that promises romance for couples. Singles' perceptions are quick. You won't miss the obvious as Venus aspects Neptune. Love you all, and be kind to yourself! love and kisses! xoxo Meaghan

As our 2 other members just said, it is not alot to ask for, and by getting a cheep prepaid phone then you have no worries. You must stop and consider that we are inviting you into our space, in a venerable position, and need to know that you are not hiding something. I have been tricked time and time again with competition trying to get my location details, or a client that that has been refused service etc. Safety has to first. If you are booking with an established and recommended lady, we have put much time and effort into building our reputation, so TRUST us when we say " we will never call you txt you unless you ask us to do so" as we do not want to ruin it for you or for ourselves. Our livelihoods depend on discretion and trust, not going to jeopardies that! I do get what you are saying. But like Meaghan stated, per paid phone eliminates that problem. Also, if you are booking a less experienced or an SP that you can not verify, well that is a shoot in the dark. Most of the ladies here on cerb are professional, therefore we look after these little details very well. We would not have much business if we went around calling our clients out of the blue. I have a client that when he comes over he asks me to delete our phone history from his phone on the chance his wify might see it, this is smart! In the case that I do ever get a call from a confused person that says " I see this number on my husbands phone" I say" Hmm well do you have a cocker spaniel that is being groomed?... " They say no why? I say...." well I am a groomer and was dialing a number to call the owners, perhaps I got the wrong number? Which is very possible because I AM a groomer part time , lol... I hope this has put your mind at ease a bit more? I hope you decide to get a play pone,or at the very least, learn to trust the ladies and always erase your call and txt history:)

Most hobbyists get a cell phone specifically for this purpose. No one else has your number, you turn it off when not hobbying, then turn it back on when you want to come out to play. Some sp's require a landline, and no real way to get around that one. I don't know of any sp that would call a number AFTER the call is finished. We want to verify who we are talking to We want to verify that you are not obviously underage We want to verify you are not a woman posing as a client If I have ever called a number and someone other then the client answers, I always ask for Stella. Then when she says "wrong number", I can say sorry. That's only for my regular clients that have asked me to call them back. Get a hobby phone. Cheap, pre-paid and problem solved. xoxo

Provider: The Sexual Health Center Services provided: PNE (professional nurse experience), fetish play including watersports/golden showers (peeing in a cup) and BDSM (tying your arm, poking with needles) Clients accepted: men, women or couples Incalls only. Convenient, discrete westend location but available at other parts of town. The incall was easy to find with plenty of free parking. The madam at the front desk took my name and had me fill in a small form and then it was only a few minutes until my date came out. Let me tell you, Hello Nurse! Tall, curvy, long dark hair, great smile, dressed in a sexy white lab coat. She had me follow her into the back where a small room with a desk, some chairs and a bed were set up. The bed was strange and tall and had some weird stirrup things on it. "Kinky!" I thought to myself. We sat together and she took a little time getting to know me. She seemed quite curious to know all about me and asked a lot of questions about what kind of sex I liked, what I had been doing lately, stuff like that. After a little bit of that, it was time to get down to business. She took my arm and tied a rubber band around it, having me flex a few times. "Yeah baby...you know what I like...". She took out a needle and poked me in the arm, causing blood to start flowing into a little tube. "Whoa," I said, "shouldn't we have a safe word?" She just laughed and kept going, filling another vial before expertly finishing me off and cleaning me up with a nice clean cotton swab. Since I'm an MSOG type of guy, after a couple of minutes we started into round two. She gave me a cup and drew a little line on it. "Fill it to here," she purred. "Nice!" I thought. "I like where this is going!". I went to her bathroom down the hall and went to town on that cup. Man...after all that foreplay I could have filled 10 of those cups I had so much juice in me. I walked back to her room, completely spent and gave her the cup. "Good job," she said. At this point we were almost out of time although I've got to say, she's definitely not a clock watcher. I left the clinic completely satisfied. Highly recommended and I would definitely repeat. Treat her well people, this one's a keeper. This was tongue-in-cheek and partly fictional but seriously people. Have you been tested? It's really easy and super discreet. There was almost no waiting and no one knows why you're there. Everything is kept confidential and you get to choose exactly how they contact you. In fact, unless there's a problem, you'll never hear from them at all. Better a quick poke at the clinic than having your johnson fall off later am I right? I got tested today and it took less than an hour of my time. What's your excuse?

As has been said, get yourself a cellphone just for this lifestyle. Nothing says you keep it on all the time Or you may find that you have to give a home phone (landline) number or your work number instead. Some ladies require A LOT more information than an unblocked number if they require verification/screening. Remember YOU are initiating contact with the lady, she isn't contacting you, for an intimate encounter, if you want her to let you into her private intimate life, giving your phone number to her is the very least of yourself you can give Finally read the recommendations so you will initiate contact with a professional companion. And avoid those ones (small minority I would think) you think are indiscrete RG

Having spent 2 hours with you about a year ago,an outcall at my Hotel room for a massage and a bath together (info I believe I never put in my reco about our time together,cause that was our business, I think I would know, your glowing smile, gorgeous face and your beautiful body) So those doubters can take a hike.

Kimmy and other ladies, What you do in your personal business, is just that, "your personal business" not mine or anyone else's. I'm to see ladies for the pure erotic,sensual and sexual time together. I'm not there to know everything about your own personal life, and I expect the same back. It is all about discretion both ways, and I frequent Sp's and Ma's because that is what I want, discretion,make love and NSA. I find the attraction to Sp's and Ma's a lot more comfortable in my life because ALL the women are all very professional and discrete. Getting myself checked every 4 or 6 months a year, the evidence speaks clearly that the women I meet here, Sp's and Ma's are all very clean, so it is a safe venture for me. I would never and have no desire to seek out women at bars. Furthermore the gent that posed the question to you had "no right" to even ask in the first place, I personally would of told him where to get "OFF". To answer your question "Are you being Unfair" You were more than fair even to respond to him.

I know some of this has been covered here already, and I just posted this to the other board also, but I thought it could be a useful reminder here too. Knowledge is power (and health!) :) ______________ As part of some New Years resolutions, some people are thinking about their health and taking it more seriously. Well, sexual health is a very important part of that, and something that should be taken seriously all year round :) Getting tested is very important for hobbyists too! Many of the most common STI's (particularly in men) have no symptoms!! Treatment for the most common STI's is usually quite simple and effective, often with one dose of antibiotic. Left untreated can lead to serious complications. The Ottawa Sexual Health Centre is THE BEST place to go for this because this is their area of speciality and they will order all the proper testing. You need: urine samples, blood tests and throat swabs to be given a complete sexual bill of health. The Sexual Health Centre's testing is anonymous, you don't have to give your real name, and you do not need to provide a health card. There are different ways to get your results, but generally you give a phone number and if they don't call you, your tests have not shown any problems. (No news is good news!) The Sexual Health Centre has more than one location, as they offer satellite clinics throughout the city on various days of the week. Locations and hours here: http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/public...-health-centre For example, I always go to the Barrhaven clinic, I get there right when they open at 2:30, and I have never had to wait more than 10 minutes to see the nurse. If you are worried about discretion this is perfect, because they host the clinic within another regular Health Clinic (so you could be there for any number of things). To make it eve more discreet, you can go to a location in a different part of the city than where you live/work. The nurses at these clinics are very friendly, non-judgemental, knowledgeable on sexual health, and are happy to answer any questions you may have. I recommend the Ottawa Sexual Health Clinic above a regular health clinic or your family doctor, because they know all the exact testing you need and specialize in this area. For your own sake, and the benefit of the Escort/Hobbyist community, Please get tested regularly! :biggrin: Thank you!

Thank you everyone for your overwhelming support and your sweet msgs! It's really awesome to have such a great community like this.. Wish I had joined earlier! I appreciate all the love!: ) Xx!

Every SP has a right to have her own protocol for being contacted. The reasons have been well documented here so I figure if you can't agree to their simple request, you loose.

Bear in mind that when you catch a cold there's an incubation period, during which you can pass it on but you don't yet have any symptoms. Occupational hazard, I guess :)

I have seen and talked to her Vitto and she would not post fake pictures and i am 100% behind her

That is ridiculous, because, the fact is you look even better in person..... Pay no attention to jealous people ...what is that line in DESIDERATA? " avoid loud and agressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit"

I just watched this Steve Kardynal "Call me Maybe" ChatRoulette video for the umpteenth time today... and every time I see it, it makes me smile. The faces, the glorious smiles that just erupt when they actually figure out what they are seeing... well they are contagious. So what makes you smile? What are the little things in life that make you beam? A few more... Those tiny little freckles that appear on the bridge of the nose and the top of the cheeks... they are adorable! SaraMQ - laughing. That woman just makes me smile... ;) The smell of the first steak on the barbecue every summer... Vitto calling me "Old Dong"... A picture of a friend posing by the 1960's Batmobile... The smell of Old Spice... it reminds me of my grandpa... so that's a start... what makes you smile???

Yay! It`s great to have you here as a positive contributor to Cerb. Looking forward to reading many more of your posts! Job well done!

There is no reason for paranoia. If you stick to reputable providers with good reviews, chances are that they haven't gotten to where they are by being loose-lipped. That would travel pretty fast and ruin a reputation and business. If you want to see a lady, it will serve you well to get a pre-paid phone, or else find another lady that has a different procedure. I do not want to tell anyone how they should run their business or how to pick a provider, but IMO it is the ladies that don't have an effective screening process that may also have little regard for your own safety and overall experience, and it is they, not the well-known professionals, who you (or any client concerned about discretion and safety) should screen out. If you stick to providers on this board, you more than likely have nothing to worry about. Just have fun! My nickle's worth. FR

No different then going to a hotel with a lobby and front desk. If they are aware ahead of time I don't see a problem for the gents.

I have been in this hobby for over 10 years now and have only had a lady call my number without warning once about 7 years ago. She was from Montreal and I hadn't left yet for Montreal and our date was that night. She thought I was already there but had her security guy call so even that wasn't really a problem. As long as you stay with the ladies that have a good reputation, you should not have anything to worry about giving your number. For me, I would think a second play phone would raise more suspicion then anything. Yes you can hide it but it could be found rather easy I would think unless you had a place outside the home to hide it like an office or something. I would never under any circumstance give a lady my land line, ever. If that is her choice to ask for it, it is your choice not to see her, simple as that. Basically it boils down to the fact the ladies have every right to ask for what ever information they want to make them feel safe, whether it's over the top or not. In turn, we have the choice not to see a lady if we feel they are asking for too much info that makes us feel uncomfortable. Nothing I hate worse then guys complaining about a lady asking for too much info or too much money. The ladies have every right to ask what ever info they want as well as what ever donation they want, and we have the choice not to see them if we feel it is too much, info or money.

Hey guys! It's party day at CMJ west!! I will be there from 10 - 4 looking to have fun and explore with you. If you aren't up for the bigger party that's okay, I am always up for a private sexy party for two ;) Come see me today, and let our touch lead the way to pleasure. I want to read your body with my soft hands and let it show me the way to make your fantasies a reality. PM me or call 613-523-6199 to book xoxoxo Kelly

Here's a big hug for Serena, Kimmiexoxo and Vitto! Sorry to hear you ladies had a rough day! xo

Well Miss Vitto Victoria !! Just saw this post. Chin up and cheer up ! You have been an amazing, upbeat, fun, happy, smiling addition to Cerb ! AND Genuine !!! I believe it was Old Dog that just posted in the Goddess thread recently. You make us all smile, you are truly you and we know YOU are YOU. I actually haven't met you incall or outcall to my hotel, but I have chatted with you and you are awesome. You even participated in a recent poll of mine ;) I have seen just a few of your pics but the thing that stands out the most is your smile :D Keep smiling for us and keep us smiling and as always those that aren't real will eventually get what is coming to them !! xo

There are catty people everywhere. I was also accused of this once for having an avatar that WASN'T of myself and nowhere did I pretend it was me. As such, I was reprimanded in a private message. I don't know where it says SPs have to always have themselves in an avatar picture. Such pettiness that makes for good drama for some people. lol. Anyways, don't let this get you down. If you know you are in the right, forget what others say. Stay true to yourself first! Screw the haters! They seem to want to cause problems and create drama due to their own insecurities and to also make their lives that much more interesting...Pffffttt..I have never met you Vitto but you sound like a lovely woman!

None of his f------ing business!!! Your private life is yours just as his is his According to his "logic" then, only single women should be SP's and single guys should be clients or do all women he sees have the right to know that he sees professional companions and all the companions he has seen If his concern is about sexual health, everyone is responsible for their own sexual health, not for everyone else's. I just wouldn't debate him, put his email address in your blocked sended list, don't talk to him again His question and comments completely inappropriate and he is wrong My late night ramblings RG

This is absolute BS. Vitto has a natural beauty that no picture could ever fully capture. I don't know who is behind this but they need help, seriously. We all love you Vitto, don't let one driven by jealousy get you down. Alg

Awww...get over here. We haven't met yet but I feel confident enough in your honesty and inegrity and those in our community who stand by you. Consider me in your camp. And come get a big bear hug. XOXO Cub

Those of us who have met and know you could never be swayed by such vindictive and dare I say ridiculous statement. Anyone who has bet and knows you, knows what a beautiful person you are both inside and out. I wonder if anyone who might say otherwise knows how ridiculous THEY make themselves look?

Hugs to Vitto, Kimmi and to Serena. My arms are enveloping you all and my heart is with you..... xoxo

All i can say is that there are very jealous people out there be strong Vitto were behind u

Well, I like her! Don't worry about the lack of recent recos - many ladies pick up a lot of recos when they first start, but most guys don't write subsequent recos once they've already written one... so someone who's well established and gets a lot of repeat clients will, despite being awesome, get very few recos. I think Katrine's in this category. You mean the whole concept, I hope :) Although if you're having trouble with the hole concept, I'm sure many of our lovely ladies can help with that too :) I should ask in the Ottawa SP or MA forums (if you haven't already), depending on what you're interested in.

I'm no photo expert, I'll leave that to Kenny but they look real to me. There will always be haters out there, you just got to ignore their bullshit and look the other way. You know your pics are real and that all that should matter, but just in case, you got a whole lot more supporters than you do haters so chin up and smile. If they were so fake how come you got so many reviews?

Unless I am wrong, this was a possible client who was asking questions that he should not ever ask. Even my best guys would never ask the type of questions he asked (well they can ask me once they know me, but watch out for my answer if I don't want to disclose). This has nothing to do with SO in a relationship. This is totally stepping over her boundaries. RED FLAGS.

I have been there a few times, it really really sucks, and would keep me up at night:( But really it did not damage me or my business in the long run, because I knew the truth, and as long as I remained consistent and eventually these things would stop. Stay strong and be steadfast, things will come out in the wash so to say, lol.. Best wishes:)

Hope your day/week/month gets better :)

Hello Jessica : Welcome aboard! CERB is a marvelous place. The sense of community is tremendous. I have been on the Internet for a very long time and can safely say that the humanity and general fun way he outshines the rest :). Somehow, the wide range of people here, really do work together and get along. It's like a great mystery story is well. Look around, ask a question, no matter what you "know" there are more places to look in here, then pieces in a leprechaun's pot of gold. All the best. Take care, and see you online. PatrickGC

When they step all over your boundaries, this is a big red flag. None of his business and I would make sure if you have not, report him. Take care and keep safe sweetie! xoxo

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no. I've told some and haven't told some and the end results spider out in different ways. it's not every ones business. I'm pretty sure that buddy isn't telling his wife he's partaking in his dirty lil pleasure. I actually have a similar theory of how my job is a lot cleaner and safer then picking up some random stranger in a bar

I'd just like to point out here, just because an sp/ma doesn't shower at your location, doesn't mean she doesn't bathe. In my personal experience, when I'm doing an outcall, I NEVER shower at the gents location, I always wait until I get home and do that immediately upon walking through door after i take off my shoes and hang my jacket. Having worked in another much more dangerous city early in my career, I have had money and other property stolen while I was bathing, and on another occasion was actually locked in the bathroom and held against my will. Hence, I do not trust a stranger to be totally vulnerable ( in a bathroom with water running where i cannot see or hear what's going on) and leaving my property unattended while bathing in unfamiliar environment. Not only that, but I don't like the idea of using someone's else's shower, soap or towels when I have all these items that are mine at my home, plus my shampoo and other girly cleansing items that men rarely if ever have. Bathing time is very intimate time for me, especially after a rendezvous, it's my time to decompress and unwind. Therefore,it's something prefer to do in the privacy and comfort of my own home. Even in my own incall, I wait until my guest has departed and I'm alone to bathe. Just because you don't observe lady bathing doesn't mean she doesn't do it, some of us prefer to keep some aspects of our lives private;)

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/clay-nikiforuk/sexism-at-us-border_b_3112638.html What do you do when you're detained by powerful officials, everything you say is presumed deceptive, arbitrary "evidence" is held against you, and you're treated like a moral deviant? And what if its 2013, you're a woman, and the "evidence" is that you possess condoms? It happened three times in two weeks -- being detained by U.S. border officials on my way to or through the States. First I was held by Vermont border guards for two hours in the middle of the night on my way to visit Nashville. They searched my bags at least five times. I could not help but notice how often my lingerie and "sexy underwear" were mentioned, how often the condoms they found were looked upon scathingly, and how most of the four male officers' questions pertained to both. I was baffled as to why this was any of their business and unsure of what their objective was, other than fondling lady's undergarments. In the end, having nothing to go on, they gave me a limited stay visa of two weeks and let me go -- at 3 a.m. in the middle of nowhere. I missed my bus and my plane, had to pay for a $90 taxi to the nearest airport and then book a new flight the next morning. The next time it happened was two weeks later in Montreal's airport. After scanning my passport, without being asked a single question, I was immediately led to a back waiting room. When I was summoned into an office, the officer cut to the chase: "How much is he paying you to go on this trip?" He was referring to the man I was travelling with. Confused, I just stared back at him for a few beats. "N-nothing?" The next question was whether this man was married or not. The answer, unfortunately for me, was yes. He asked whether I was planning on sharing a hotel bed with this man. I'm not one to sugar coat things and decided that now would not be a particularly good time to be found lying. Again, I answered yes. Righteous, the officer demanded what exactly I was doing in a bed with a married man. "That's actually none of your business." I had kicked the hornet's nest. Inflamed, he raised his voice at me that it was his business and that adultery was a crime in America -- a crime that he could deny me entry for. He made me tell him my partner's name and date of birth and threatened to detain him, too. I pointed out that we would be in Miami for a total of 40 minutes to catch our next flight to Aruba; hardly enough time to run to our gate, let alone commit adultery. The next thing I knew he was searching my bags, pulling out condoms and waving them in my face. "I could have you charged with being a working girl! The proof is right here!" All I could do is shake my head. This can't be real. "This is absurd," I murmured. But he was on a roll. "You want me to call his wife? I'll tell her!" I raised an eyebrow at him. "She knows." He stormed off again, leaving me shaking. When he finally emerged from an office, he held my passport and tickets in hand. He told me he was letting me go "this time" because I had told the truth. But that I was an educated woman and should change my life to reflect that. I blinked at him. "What?" He looked at me meaningfully and repeated himself. I nodded, eyes downcast as if I was taking his moralizing into serious consideration, and took my documents. I was afraid that he would change his mind otherwise. Later, after a very short Internet search, I found that adultery isn't illegal in Florida, and even if I had been paid for the trip, mixing sexual and non-sexual activities constitutes a relationship and therefore makes any money exchanged a very legal gift under the law. Travelling together to Aruba to get away from cold Montreal, I would think, signals a non-sexual activity. A few days in the sun later, it was time to face the same routine but in the Aruban airport. Again, I would be spending all of an hour in Miami's international airport and then carrying on to my home in Montreal. This time I had left the condoms behind. But it was too late -- there was a detailed profile of me, in which my nefarious condom-carrying behaviour was noted. Again, I was told to sit and wait for further questioning. I watched as my entire flight's passengers whizzed through customs in front of me. I was shaking. By the time someone got around to questioning me, I was told my flight was leaving. I was detained, yelled at, patted down, fingerprinted, interrogated, searched, moved from room to room and person to person without food, water or being told what was going on for what seemed like forever. Just as I thought they were tiring of me and going to refuse me entry but at least let me back into Aruba, a 'Bad Cop' type took me to a distant, isolated office and yelled at me that I was full of shit. He had found information online that in the last couple of years I had been modelling and acting. This, he concluded, was special code for sex work, and I was never going to enter the U.S.A. ever again. I tried not to laugh and cry at the same time. I told him I'm currently writing a book on the sociology of sexual assault. "Are you looking to be sexually assaulted?" I blinked at him. I couldn't breathe. "Was that meant to be funny?" "No, it wasn't." "Ah, no. I'm definitely not." "Well, it sure seems like you are." "...How so?" He wouldn't elaborate. I was with the U.S. officials for six hours. After two more hours put through the wringer with Aruban immigration, I was finally let go back into Aruba. I was told that if I even so much as approached the U.S. border again without a waiver I would be banned from the country for five years. My partner and I, both shaken, had to book a new flight to Canada that didn't pass through the U.S. (approximately $900) and a hotel for an extra two days until that flight. For me, carrying my own condoms (in purses, wallets, camera bags; everywhere) is a routine act towards safer sex. For someone else with the power to not only deny passage but judge, moralize and intimidate, it has become enough evidence to put a woman through hell. My story has brought a number of women out of the woodwork stating that they have had similar experiences. Whether border guards are copying police in New York and their condoms-as-evidence-of-prostitution model, or are simply so stuck in their gender stereotyping that a woman with condoms can't be a good person ("We've been told that there's nothing good about you," said one Aruban official), I'm also not sure. I do know I won't be travelling for some time, until my name is cleared. Or until the puritanical, power-tripping, slut-shaming witch hunt is over. I won't hold my breath for either.

Found this link on how to make it if you can't find them. http://easteuropeanfood.about.com/od/serbianvegetables/r/kiseli-kupus.htm xoxo

I love Soleils byline - lay Soleil today! Very catchy and very sexy too! Vitto beat me to it. I love Vitto's smile and positivity. Truly a beautiful and sexy woman.

I'm always craving french toast but never make it. Might make it in the morning with lots of cinnamon! :)

There are 2 other MP's to go to but I don't go there so can't comment. You could also go onto EC and pick any SP who advertises there and ask what they want for a massage and happy ending. I would recommend Angelina Devilin or Soleil. I haven't gone to see the following but have read in their ads that they provide what you are looking for: Holly Raye Kayla Kayelee Kisses Sabrina Chantal and probably a whole lot more. Homework assignment for you. Go see at least one girl from the above and report back to us. :icon_lol: